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Boycotters furious when Harley dealership replaces Confederate flag with US flag on band logo

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* From a reader…

Hey Rich. FYI some high comedy on the Boycott DuQuoin Facebook page amidst all the racism and off-topic posts. Apparently Black Diamond Harley who is hosting the band instead of the fair has altered the band logo without their permission to replace the rebel flags with American flags, and the Facebook group is going ballistic. My favorites are the amateur lawyers spouting legal theories for the band to sue on when the poster can barely spell.

* From the Facebook page…

I don’t know if anyone else noticed but I did. Black Diamond took it upon themselves to alter the Confederate Railroad image by removing the Confederate flags & adding the American flag. Dont get me wrong I love Old Glory. But wasn’t this supposed to be a form of protest against the liberal censorship of this band. Black Diamond scheduled a concert for them & we are boycotting the fair because of the censorship but now BD has jumped on the PC bandwagon & CENSORED the band’s album cover……WOW!!! The Band could of done that themselves & still be playing at the fair…..THE MESSAGE GOT LOST SOMEWHERE!!! Oh well they have a sold out show, guess the message doesn’t matter….. UGH!!!

* The evidence…

* A few of the 81 comments…

* The walkback…

UPDATE:: A BIG THANK YOU TO BLACKDIAMOND FOR ACTING SWIFTLY & RECTIFYING THIS SITUATION!!
ENJOY THE SHOW FOLKS!!! THANK YOU BLACK DIAMOND!!!

This isn’t gonna end well.

posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:07 am

Comments

They were mad because the new logo had this nation’s flags flying.

Give that one some thought.

Comment by efudd Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:12 am
It’s the flag and what folks want that flag to “stand for”… not artistic license.

That should make clear what the score is.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:13 am
Peeing Calvin, what say you?

Thank you Peeing Calvin.

Comment by LizPhairTax Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:14 am
On the last picture… I believe urinating in public is indecent exposure and you have to register as a sex offender.

Comment by Ok Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:14 am
I’m sure it’s lost on the band (and it’s fans) that the poor planning (and construction) of the confederate railroad was a contributing factor to the South losing the Civil War.

Comment by Jocko Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:16 am
This is about the music, not promoting a symbol of racism. Except when it isn’t.

This is about freedom of artistic expression. Except when the artist is a Harley rider.

Comical, what does Harley Davidson have to say?

Comment by Thomas Paine Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:20 am
Well Jocko, seeing that the fact that the South lost is lost on them, I wouldn’t expect them to sweat the details.

Comment by Ron Burgundy Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:20 am
So. Much. B#tthurt.

Comment by Nick Name Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:21 am
Jocko, don’t bother explaining history. Itll just be called fake news and something something great again will be the follow up.

Comment by Fixer Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:21 am
===I’m sure it’s lost on the band (and it’s fans)===

Based on this whole debacle and the associated comments, I think a lot of history is lost on the people in this Facebook group.

Comment by OutOfState Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:21 am
Although, I do appreciate someone recognizing how, as someone concerned by climate change, I am incredibly offended by the term railroad. And don’t even get me started on the word car. /s

Comment by OutOfState Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:23 am
–This isn’t gonna end well.–

I think the ending is great,, so far.

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:24 am
I’m sure Bill Watterson would appreciate the irony of folks complaining about censorship and intellectual property with a car sticker that has Calvin with the Stars and Bars.

Comment by njt Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:25 am
“Lady Antebellum”

Comment by lake county democrat Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:26 am
Don Barden never was the Cadillac kind.

Comment by Not Again Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:28 am
Any chance this Facebook group is full of Russian bots seeking to sow division among Illinoisans? I think it’s complletely possible. So unfortunate that we are coming apart at the seems.

Comment by Threat level midnight Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:29 am
“Antebellum” is literally just latin for “Before the War”

Comment by Ok Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:30 am
“They were mad because the new logo had this nation’s flags flying.

Give that one some thought.”

Some or many of these people probably foam at the mouth about certain people they despise, calling them un-American. Point out the hypocrisy to them and watch the fun begin, with the insane rationalization, denial, justification, bad spelling and grammar, etc.

Comment by Grandson of Man Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:36 am
Yep, Calvin’s creator should sue that guy for that copy-write infringement thing. /s

Comment by Ron Burgundy Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:36 am
=I’m sure Bill Watterson would appreciate the irony of folks complaining about censorship and intellectual property with a car sticker that has Calvin with the Stars and Bars.=

Woof, and how @njt. I am certain he won’y be happy about that when he hears about it.

Quick question for the class….when did the stars and bars become associated with Illinois or an important part of Illinois’ culture? Aside from fighting what it stood for during the civil war?

(banned word….I think?)

Comment by JS Mill Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:36 am
“I don’t understand how anyone can be ok with being told what they can and can’t do.”

Except for when the government says you can’t get an an abortion. /s.

Maybe she should of copy-writed that statement.

Comment by Steve Rogers Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:41 am
=Any chance this Facebook group is full of Russian bots…=

Well, that would explain the typos and bizarre punctuation/lack thereof.

By the way, Rich, some of those links you inserted to the Boycott DQSF FB page seem to be blocked now (”This post has been removed or could not be loaded”). But with a little clicking around, you can still get a your fill of crazy.

Comment by Dysfunction Junction Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:41 am
April 9, 1865…marks 154 years of sore losing…apparently.

Comment by Dotnonymous Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:41 am
Do you think southern Illinois would welcome a band called “Jihad Railroad”?

Comment by 360 Degree TurnAround Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:43 am
* get your fill of crazy
- or maybe I should of jest copy-writed that…

Comment by Dysfunction Junction Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:44 am
These people have waaaaayyy too much time on their hands.

Comment by Demoralized Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:48 am
The Civil War remains the most important event in our political history after 154 years.

The dividing line between those who think the South fought with some sort of honor, and those who think they fought to support an evil institution is still pretty stark.

Mythology beats history most of the time.

Comment by Ebenezer Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:53 am
I believe the Calvin image represents their mindset…juvenile.

Comment by Dotnonymous Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:56 am
I am sure the images and video from that concert will be a dee-light. I hope everyone attending smiles for the cameras.

Comment by Ron Burgundy Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 10:58 am
Nothing says, ‘I am confident we are standing on the right, just and noble side of this argument’ like a Peeing Calvin.

Enjoy the concert on private property, folks. Best of luck to you all.

Comment by lakeside Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 11:05 am
I wonder what the reaction would have been if they replaced the Confederate battle flag with the Betsy Ross flag?

Comment by Old Shepherd Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 11:07 am
“Maybe she should of copy-writed that statement.” Considering the audience, it’s probably “copy-wrote.”

Comment by Skeptic Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 11:08 am
This is so bizarre. I enjoy Confederate Railroad’s music but this whole debacle from start to finish. If this were about being fans of CR we all would just shrug at the edit and go drink a couple Coors and sing Queen of Memphis and enjoy the show. Why would Black Diamond alter the album cover? Are they trying to troll these folks or was this a misguided attempt by someone to calm things down? I am assuming they were using the image on promotional material. Why not just use a picture of the band like literally every other promoter does. It would be a much easier way to avoid any consternation over the stars and bars. Second, why the heck is everyone complaining? It is a private venue so they can do whatever they want to promote the show. Even if there is a copyright issue that is between the band and the venue. This whole debacle makes it look like these folks devour their own for not holding fast to some ridiculous ideological purity surrounding the stars and bars. I am done with this ridiculousness.

Comment by RuralJewel Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 11:16 am
The Calvin sticker reminds me of lettering I saw on the back of a truck last week. It read, “Embrace Nationalism.”
All I could think of was Darth Vader saying, “Come to the Dark Side.”

Comment by Proud Papa Bear Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 11:24 am
Dear Debbie Frick…who do you mean when you say “our” historic monuments? Illinois was a union state, you remember? The stars and bars was not our flag, nor was Lee our General. Or are you loging in from Mississippi?

Comment by Jibba Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 11:26 am
It’s not censorship. It’s called marketing.

Comment by Da Big Bad Wolf Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 11:30 am
Open white supremacists will likely show up, further eroding the GOP attempt to compete in the increasingly diverse suburbs.

Comment by anon2 Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 11:53 am
“Our historic monuments”? Land of Lincoln, home of U.S. Grant . . .

Comment by Major Shurtz Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 12:07 pm
I don’t have a dog in this fight at all, and I find the whole thing absurd.

I was looking around and I found the image with the substitute stars-n-stripes on the facebook page for the radio station. Just sayin’

https://www.facebook.com/w3dcountry/posts/2402845479781855?__tn__=-R

Comment by Shall not be infringed Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 12:09 pm
I would be hard pressed to think of anything you could do to any logo that wasn’t explicitly obscene that would get me 1/8th as upset as these folks.

Comment by OneMan Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 12:29 pm
=Why would Black Diamond alter the album cover?=

So they can have their cake and eat it too. They want the rabid Facebook crowd to show up but they don’t want to deal with the inevitable consequences.

Comment by Pundent Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 12:51 pm
“April 9, 1865…marks 154 years of sore losing…apparently.”

To some families the civil war is recent history. There is a 2017 US News and World Report article about an 87 year old woman who is collecting her father’s $73.13/month civil war pension. The Smithsonian Magazine has an article which says that the last of the civil war veterans were dying as late as the 1950’s.

154 years is enough time for oral histories to be handed down to great grand children. The bitterness of the war can still be felt in the bones of those who lost homes, farms, and livelihoods.

Comment by Huh? Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 12:56 pm
Huh?

Oral history has likely been passed down from the ancestors of slaves as well. And I don’t know any daughters of slaves still collecting a pension. Those flag wavers love to disparage the continued “bitterness” black Americans have towards the confederate flag. So please spare me.

Comment by Baloneymous Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 1:08 pm
The debate regarding the substitution of the flags also raises a larger issue. Are these fans of the band or fans of the flag? Seems more like the later based on the comments and the reaction. And if the music was got people interested would it really matter if they changed the logo? Would people stop going to Stones concerts if they decided to drop the tongue?

Comment by Pundent Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 1:14 pm
===Are these fans of the band or fans of the flag? ===

Seems pretty clear to me what the real issue is with many of these folks. And it ain’t the flag or the band.

Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 1:15 pm
“Open white supremacists will likely show up, further eroding the GOP attempt to compete in the increasingly diverse suburbs.”

Someone ought to be there to make audiovisual footage, for campaign purposes and social media. Ask people too if it’s unpatriotic and un-American to display the Stars and Bars, so we can see sputtering, twisted rants.

Comment by Grandson of Man Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 1:28 pm
“The bitterness of the war can still be felt in the bones of those who lost homes, farms, and livelihoods.”

The price of rebellion…paid…past tense.

Comment by Dotnonymous Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 1:31 pm
=And it ain’t the flag or the band.=

Sadly I think you’re right. Tragic that the Eastern Bloc and others have no qualms in encouraging and exploiting this. This should not be the “brand” of any organization in this state or country.

Comment by Pundent Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 1:41 pm
Efudd you sure know how to twist things the wrong way, the american flag is not the issue. You are part of the problem.

Comment by Just saying Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 1:47 pm
A sad reminder that complaints about ‘political correctness’ are usual complaints that I don’t get to make fun of minorities and women without reproach like in the good old days.

Comment by Rasselas Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 1:51 pm
If the Supremely White ever stop blaming other people with darker skin tones and/or religions…for limiting their own progress…will they ever look in the mirror at their own image…honestly?…I often wonder.

Comment by Dotnonymous Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 1:53 pm
Sadly I think you’re right. Tragic that the Eastern Bloc and others have no qualms in encouraging and exploiting this. This should not be the “brand” of any organization in this state or country.

Yeah…that “brand” is already takkken.

Comment by Dotnonymous Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 2:12 pm
Sadly I think you’re right. Tragic that the Eastern Bloc and others have no qualms in encouraging and exploiting this. This should not be the “brand” of any organization in this state or country.

Yeah…that “brand” is already tak..en.

Comment by Dotnonymous Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 2:22 pm
The Facebook page appears to be removed - someone confirm, please.

Comment by RIJ Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 3:47 pm
Group is still there.

Comment by Ron Burgundy Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 3:53 pm
Just saying-

Next time try just thinking.

Comment by efudd Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 4:14 pm
How soon before Don Barden loses his state job?

Comment by 312 Thursday, Jul 25, 19 @ 4:40 pm
Shad Zimbro is playing it smart.

Comment by Da Big Bad Wolf Friday, Jul 26, 19 @ 6:26 am
Efudd - like i said, people like you are the problem with comments like yours. You need to think it through.

Comment by Just saying Friday, Jul 26, 19 @ 8:51 am