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* From the Facebook page “We are open ‘up yours JB’”…

If anyone knows a business staying open please list them

And then dozens of southern Illinoisans dutifully posted the names of restaurants and taverns which vow to remain open despite new mitigations imposed by IDPH - making it pretty darned easy for local and state public health officials to track and confront the scofflaws.

Some folks just don’t think ahead too well, I suppose.

Also, I saved a copy of the page just in case.

posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:00 am

Comments

This helps…

… the state and locals can look at an efficient way to fine or worse more places of business in a very short time.

It makes sense, if you think how some aren’t smart to wearing a mask… this is on brand to… smarts.

Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:07 am
From the page copy: If you think what you have is “common since,” odds are you don’t really have any.

Comment by Ron Burgundy Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:08 am
So are all those folks “snitches? Will they be “applying for jobs as security guards at the concentration camps”?

Comment by JoanP Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:19 am
Hate to break it the blog audience, but few are paying any attention to these orders by the Governor. When your Governor is so far out of step compared to surrounding states, and when people have to decide between making a living or obeying some politicians command, the choice is an easy one to make.

Comment by Gravy Bond Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:24 am
Mayor Langfelder in Springfield is trying to urge the Governor and IDPH to allow the city’s restaurants to continue indoor dining even if Region 3 is forced into mitigations. The positivity rate for the region stood at 7.5% and rising.

https://www.sj-r.com/news/20201021/langfelder-indoor-dining-should-remain-even-if-greater-covid-19-restrictions-imposed

Comment by Chatham Resident Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:25 am
===Hate to break it the blog audience, but few are paying any attention===

I think we’re well aware, considering your high positivity rates.

Ever think there might be a connection there, Einstein?

Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:36 am
It is worth noting that while more and more businesses will choose to go this route, they do so without likely any insurance coverage. Insurance companies will almost certainly deny any claims arising while the business was supposed to be closed to indoor dining.

Comment by Smalls Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:38 am
ugh, we can support restaurants and bars with carrying out. I haven’t ordered from a chain since Feb. Supporting our independent restaurants, breweries, and mom & pop shops doesn’t only have to be with indoor dining. My favorite spot even has carryout margaritas, talk about great taco Tuesdays at home. Stay safe, eat and drink local and carryout.

Comment by Left of the Lake Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:41 am
Looks like one of the restaurants is a Subway.

Email to corporate sent.

Comment by Former Downstater Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 12:09 pm
Lockport Stagecoach in Will county left a long screed on their public facebook page yesterday about why they will be staying open for indoor dining.

Comment by TheInvisibleMan Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 12:12 pm
The only smart person on that thread is the one asking if it’s a setup.

Comment by AnnieH Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 12:15 pm
===is the one asking if it’s a setup===

lol

Yep.

Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 12:15 pm
If one such business had a negative Health Inspection because customers might get sick due to unsanitary practices in the kitchen, everyone would complain about the restaurant. But since some businesses might get a negative Health Inspection because customers might get sick due to unsanitary practices in the dining area, people are willing to look the other way. We seem to have lost our way.

Comment by H-W Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 12:45 pm
===And then dozens of southern Illinoisans dutifully posted the names of restaurants and taverns which vow to remain open===

lol

Comment by Boone's is Back Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 12:57 pm
Maybe I missed this but is Rockford State Senator Dave Syverson’s pie chart factual? If it is does it pertain to the state or just his region. Says it is from the Department of Health. Really skeptical of it as I have seen nothing like it before but do believe we need more detailed information from many of our health departments and local papers.

Comment by Arock Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 12:58 pm
The sad part is - these folks will just keep doing what they are doing. Local municipalities and counties won’t look at any enforcement measures, and if comes to sending in ISP as was done in Monroe the local state’s attorneys will just toss the case/ticket.

The good thing about this particular Facebook group - it’s a quick, easy, and handy reference of where I WON’T be spending my $ now or post pandemic. Speaking of that, how’s that list coming Rich?

Comment by DownSouth Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:04 pm
The reality is that many of these establishments won’t be in business in a few months if they are shuttered.

Comment by Blue Dog Dem Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:11 pm
=== pie chart factual?===

No. He uses data going back to March. Things have changed since then.

Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:13 pm
===The reality is that many of these establishments won’t be in business in a few months if they are shuttered.===

Another reality is these establishments’ owners and their customers may not survive to see them shuttered.

Comment by Cubs in '16 Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:21 pm
Cubs in 16. Just curious. Have you lost your income due to Covid?

Comment by Blue Dog Dem Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:31 pm
==many of these establishments won’t be in business in a few months if they are shuttered.===

I just don’t see how this has any bearing on why they need to have restricted service (not “shuttered”). It is sad and requires government assistance, but not a free pass to transmit the virus.

Comment by Jibba Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:33 pm
>> The reality is that many of these establishments won’t be in business in a few months if they are shuttered.

> Another reality is these establishments’ owners and their customers may not survive to see them shuttered.

You’re both right. This is the price we pay for an incompetent federal government that can’t prevent or mitigate society-wide risks. All the individuals within the system are faced with loaded choices where selfish behavior is incentivized because selfless behavior buys you nothing. This will happen over and over again for the rest of my life and my son’s life as climate change progresses. Thanks for breaking all of our tools for collective action, boomers!

Comment by Michael Feltes Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:39 pm
If I knew a restaurant was open for in house service I don’t think I’d even trust them to do carryout/delivery.

Comment by Cheryl44 Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:40 pm
BDD,
I have not. But if I were a business owner impacted by this pandemic I would not disregard the directives. The last thing I would want on my conscience is for one of my staff or customers to become ill, permanently impaired, or die due to my negligence. That’s just not a choice I would make. I appreciate the difficulty business owners are experiencing but there are other ways of dealing with it.

Comment by Cubs in '16 Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:42 pm
=The reality is that many of these establishments won’t be in business in a few months if they are shuttered.=

And if that occurs they’ll have their communities to blame.

Comment by Pundent Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:59 pm
If The top three places that come up over and over again are people’s workplaces, school, and restaurants and bars,” as Dr. Ngozi Ezike said, then why do DHS state employees have to show up at the office every day? I’ve had to come into the office everyday this year. Sounds like. Double standard to me.

Comment by Dhs worker Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 2:26 pm
==where selfish behavior is incentivized==

And a president who finds public service distasteful.

Comment by Jocko Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 2:35 pm
Southern Illinois is a real peach.

Refusing to take the virus seriously has consequences.

The response to the consequence?

Doubling down on refusing to take the virus seriously.

Comment by Candy Dogood Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 2:41 pm
rather than alienating the percentage of population in their area who are health conscious, why not instead of deciding to break health and hygiene rules, embrace health and hygiene rules so that their area stays off the state’s radar?

Comment by cermak_rd Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 2:54 pm
Time for Health Departments statewide to start posting businesses they shut down with the old style “QUARANTINED by order of _________” signs they used decades ago during polio and other outbreaks. The #freetospreaddisease nonsense must stop (banned punctuation)

Comment by thisjustinagain Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 3:58 pm
I think one risk of some of these restauranteurs is the ripping apart of the unspoken contract of restaurant dining. Basically a they pretend to care for you and you pay them. Here, the mask is pulled off and you see that the restaurant owner does not care at all about their diners. I wonder if it will lead to less dining out overall?

Comment by cermak_rd Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 4:14 pm
Similar postings of Will County businesses that will be staying open are appearing on Facebook too.

Comment by Littlehut13 Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 4:31 pm
If I were these bars/restaurants, particularly the ones with liquor licenses I’d be careful about being too noisy. According to Gov. Pritzker today ISP is alerted to patrol for businesses not in compliance and liquor licenses are on the line, “Pritzker said that so far he has been reluctant to pull the liquor license from an establishment that refuses to adhere to the mitigation guidelines “because it has a semi-permanent effect on a business.”

“But now we’re going to be making sure we enforce that,” he said.
https://www.sj-r.com/news/20201021/pritzker-says-mitigation-rules-will-be-enforced-covid-19-infections-continue-to-rise?rssfeed=true

I also feel very little sympathy for these businesses. While they will never look locally and inward for the blame (it’s too easy to blame the big bad Chicago politicians) the refusal to abide by common sense precautions in the name of “freedom” is why we’re still dealing with this over 6 months after it started.

Comment by MyTwoCents Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 5:52 pm
So brave of you Rich to post the list so the self-righteous virtue signalers can snitch on business owners who are just trying to feed their families and provide jobs for employees trying to feed their families. Well done.

Comment by Dave W Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 9:30 pm
>>If I were these bars/restaurants, particularly the ones with liquor licenses I’d be careful about being too noisy.

And without a liquor license…no gaming machines.

Comment by dr. reason a. goodwin Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:23 pm
===to post the list ===

I didn’t create that list. And if there was no list, I couldn’t have posted it.

Comment by Rich Miller Thursday, Oct 22, 20 @ 12:11 am