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Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 7:31 am
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Pritzker is coming to a groundbreaking ceremony at our factory in Duq Quoin today during the heat advisory.
Gonna be a record short ceremony, followed by a tour of the un-airconditioned facility.
Comment by Twitter cat lady Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 7:55 am
Having some real time to digest Richard Porter’s idea of the GOP, Illinois, and Trump, it’s odd how far removed I find myself from where I once stood, and how obvious it is I don’t identify as a Republican, be it Bailey, Romney, or even Porter, which made me think to his thoughts.
Porter, like so many, just can’t call out the hatred or the divisiveness, this time with a DeSantis type of support.
If the Reagan Rule is (or it use to be) the measure, the 80% of the governing DeSantis has done is being not only rejected on the bigger national stage, we see in media a reimagining from DeSantis to who he is and what he has meant with his choices as a governor. Yet, Porter still sees DeSantis as the answer.
Republicans were never “Democrat Lite” but Republican moderates understood that policy and politics still need a populous want to win elections. Governing as DeSantis does, campaigning as DeSantis wants, it’s about punishing these assumed enemies that at some point a pivot where DeSantis needs to court.
The GOP and ILGOP, a “tempered” voice of Porter, if I take him at his word in support of DeSantis, there’s nothing to the good needed there with the Florida governor, and if that good is only “stop Trump”, well, the party became a cult, and cults only break with interventions and enlightenment, not “lesser of evils”
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 7:57 am
I don’t know how I can still care about baseball after the last two nights of shame, but I’m very sad about the Giolito trade. Yeah, somewhat streaky but often awesome. Recall a Sat. night game when he just smoked the Astros. And by so many accounts a good guy. Lots of sad on the internet about the trade last night as it broke. why do I still care??????
Comment by Amalia Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 8:14 am
Today the Health Facilities and Services Review Board will deliberate the proposed sale of one of the last county-owned nursing homes to private interests. There’s a score of criteria in making the decision but I think it comes down to the need for the facility vs allowing a sale to people who have a terrible track record for providing care.
https://tinyurl.com/ykjatj6e
Comment by yinn Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 8:52 am
And I thought things couldn’t gt worse for the White Sox
Comment by James the Intolerant Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 8:58 am
White Sox imploding. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory against the Cubs. Predicted to win 90 games and to lead the AL Central, the Sox seem poised to have a fire sale before the trading deadline.
Ugh! I’m set to see the Sox host Cleveland this weekend.
Comment by Going, going, gone Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:01 am
I’m wondering if you find yourself at all attracted to third parties? Do you think third parties can gain a foothold in Illinois?
Comment by Honeybear Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:03 am
White Sox gave up a lot of talent for only a couple prospects. I would have thought they could have got more. They do seem to want a more defensive minded catcher as do the Cardinals which makes one wonder why the acquired who they did in the first place
Comment by DTownResident Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:06 am
@OW
It’s funny you said that. Before I logged on today, I recalled the time a woman at a McCain rally spewed insults about Obama. McCain took the mic back and said something along the lines of, “that’s not true. Barack Obama is a good man, we just have a different vision.”
In this day and age of demagoguery, people don’t want to be told that the other side has good people. I see this in my purple county and especially at my gym (toxic masculinity up the wazoo.)
Comment by Proud Papa Bear Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:12 am
The state is still in a drought but things have improved dramatically. Here in Cook County, all but the extreme northwest edge is in the least severe drought category.
Comment by DS Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:19 am
C’mon Hahn, keep the fire-selling going! Let’s get rid of Yoan, Eloy and Yaz next. Oh wait never mind, Eloy burped and got put on DL. Lol
Comment by 10th ward Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:22 am
===third parties===
Our democracy and form of government (to function in a normal time) is a two party system, with independents now holding more sway than ever, and each election indies seemingly hold more of that sway too.
Third party(ies) aren’t conducive to forward governing as those parties are likely never a majority party as things sit.
Right now, third parties are taking from governing, not helping define it, in the election process.
I just know I don’t identify as a Republican and I’m more homeless than not anything else.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:26 am
=== Do you think third parties can gain a foothold in Illinois? ===
In rural downstate Illinois, the Dem brand is currently so tarnished that running as an Independent might be the only way to counter the Eastern Bloc types.
Comment by someonehastosayit Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:30 am
===In rural downstate Illinois===
Katie Stuart?
Exception proves the rule?
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:39 am
=Katie Stuart?=
Also in that area, Andy Manar until early 2021.
Surprised that some of the remaining Democratic strong areas in Macoupin County from the Demuzio and Manar days (e.g., Carlinville, Gillespie, Staunton, maybe even Manar’s Bunker Hill) were left out of the redrawn 56th Senate and either the 111th or 112th House districts two years ago. Or even Doris Turner’s new district.
Comment by Stuck in Celliniland Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:44 am
Third parties could do more than gain a foothold….IF ranked choice voting was in place.
Comment by Heat of Summer Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:51 am
The GOP has always endorsed the crazies, racists, and fringe folks since the advent of the Southern Strategy, but usually it was done with winks and nods. Ever since “The Black Guy From Chicago” became president though, it somehow broke their brains. Once the GOP establishment went all in on propping up birthers and the like, it was too late for them as a party. The loons are in control.
Comment by Homebody Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:54 am
=IF ranked choice voting was in place=
I wonder what Pat Quinn would have thought about ranked choice voting. Knowing him, most likely he would confuse it as another form of cumulative voting and thus be against it.
Comment by Stuck in Celliniland Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:55 am
===ranked choice voting===
Totally against it.
Especially because in some instances it will help the current GOP elect “cult lite” candidates.
===McCain rally spewed insults about Obama. McCain took the mic back and said something along the lines of, “that’s not true. Barack Obama is a good man, we just have a different vision.”===
Yeah. Those days seem so far in distance and time both.
Now the GOP relies on vile anger towards anyone “not like them” or not choosing their vision of America, which in some cases is discriminatory.
Maybe we both felt something that drew us towards things like me reassessing and you to the video.
What is puzzling for me is reading and rereading, there’s no sense of building to a majority as DeSantis can’t even coalesce the vile thinkers.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 9:59 am
===The GOP has always endorsed the crazies, racists, and fringe folks since the advent of the Southern Strategy, but usually it was done with winks and nods.===
Endorsed is doing quite a bit of work here, thinking back to, say, Reagan and his streamlining of the Southern Strategy, yet Reagan worked with Tip O’Neill, Dan Rostenkowski, the likes of Edgar defeating Roeser, there was this belief that this “base” of white anger that came over after the 1964 Civil Rights Act and LBJ, who needed and courted Republicans to make it bipartisan saw the Act as politically devastating for Dems in the South…
Trump winning in a crowded field where an empowered and emboldened group that live hate also felt heard, it’s not *just* that’s who the GOP has been, it was that the politics of that primary gave the worst element, finally, a real upper hand that was in check for 3+ decades.
To bring this back, Illinois-centric…
For me, Porter has his thoughts to a national base that wants the governing hate of DeSantis as the alternative, but misses the mark that DeSantis won’t appease the worst folks and alienates, or worse, the moderates.
Got me thinking about it quite a bit. It’s a huge miss for Illinois to crawl back to a second party being thoughtful.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 10:23 am
Never mind ranked choice voting; what Illinois really needs is to lower the requirements for parties to get on the ballot. There were lawsuits over this with the Libertarians and Greens a few years ago; it’s time to level the playing field for other parties to get in the game.
Comment by thisjustinagain Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 12:54 pm
There’s workers on top of parking garages jackhammering out concrete in this weather.
And will be for the next few days.
Comment by btowntruth from forgottonia Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 1:35 pm
The next time you hear someone complaining about construction laborers just holding a shovel…remember these guys jackhammering in 100 degree weather…OK?
Comment by Dotnonymous x Thursday, Jul 27, 23 @ 2:31 pm