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*** UPDATED x1 *** Isabel’s morning briefing

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* ICYMI: Is Trump still on Illinois ballot? What to know after judge rules to remove his name. Sun-Times

*** UPDATE [By Rich Miller] *** Something being lost here is this line from the Sun-Times story

Trump delegates on the March 19 ballot have been certified and would still be free to vote for Trump at the Republican National Convention no matter how the court battle here plays out.

The real votes are the ones cast for delegates, who then cast those votes at the convention.

[ *** End Of Update *** ]

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Peoria Police Chief Eric Echevarria is apologizing for a controversial recruitment ad that referenced a violent video game. […]

“There was no ill intention there. Obviously it was a play on words to really target the younger generation and relate to a younger generation,” said Echevarria.

Echevarria said he takes ownership for the ad. […]

Going forward, Echevarria said they will vet recruitment ads with non-police partners to ensure the messaging is right.

* Here’s the rest of your morning briefing…

posted by Isabel Miller
Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 7:50 am

Comments

  1. Jerry will be your friend and make campaign donations for hundreds of millions of dollars of tax payer subsidies.

    Comment by Three Dimensional Checkers Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 8:00 am

  2. If Jerry were smart he’d add re-opening Fritz’s to his subsidy push and maybe actually get a vote or two.

    Comment by Michelle Flaherty Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 8:04 am

  3. Because of this, do you think folks will pull Biden off the ballet in Texas and Florid? This may come back to bite us.

    Comment by OMG Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 8:05 am

  4. The opinion is creates a launchpad for future due process violations and political gamesmanship/abuse. Electoral boards should not be adjudicating crimes, and they don’t have jurisdiction to do so. If this order stands, the abuse (especially on the local electoral board level) is going to be rampant. Remember a few years back when local electoral boards were adjudicating and creating dubious “debts owed to the municipality” and throwing all their opposition off the ballot to such an extent that the GA had to step in and amend the statute. This order will promote the same behavior.

    Not a trump fan, but for the good of the country let him fall bc of his message not through ballot manipulation.

    Comment by Publius Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 8:29 am

  5. OMG: How does the 14th amendment prevent Biden from being on the ballot?

    Really, all this is moot anyway. SCOTUS is going to overturn the Colorado Supreme Court and Trump will be on all ballots.

    Comment by Steve Rogers Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 8:32 am

  6. ===do you think folks will pull Biden off the ballet in Texas and Florid?===

    under what theory of 14th Amendment disqualification?

    Comment by Suburban Mom Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 8:36 am

  7. Judge Tracie Porter is a professor of law at the Abraham Lincoln University Law School. This online distance learning school (headquartered in Los Angeles) sounds like a diploma mill. 0% of its graduates passed the California bar examination on their first attempts. 3% passed on the second try.

    While berating the Illinois State Board of Elections as cowards for refusing to remove Trump from the ballot, Porter ignored the fact that electoral boards have limited statutory authority and cannot decide constitutional questions. Electoral boards must rely upon existing statutes and court precedents.

    Comment by Gravitas Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 8:37 am

  8. =under what theory of 14th Amendment disqualification?=

    Couldn’t the same be asked about Trump? He hasn’t been found guilty of anything related to J6. Seems like a slippery slope. Trump has zero chance of winning IL so I think this is simply a pointless waste of time. We have better things to focus on.

    Comment by Webster Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 8:42 am

  9. FL , TX and all political what-ifs do not matter

    Court’s job is to apply the Law to the Fact without fear or favor.

    Comment by Red Ketcher Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 8:48 am

  10. “Center Square | Transportation leaders urge Pritzker to not divert road funds to Chicago transit”

    You got your lockbox, stop whining

    Comment by Nick Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 8:53 am

  11. “[W]e don’t want to put something out there that offends somebody, and if it did, that’s why we took it down. The last thing we want to do is offend somebody,” he said.

    It’s good that the Peoria police pulled that awful recruiting ad, but Chief Echeverria’s comments don’t inspire any real confidence that he understands *why* so many people found the recruiting ad offensive.

    Comment by charles in charge Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 9:22 am

  12. Just FYI- trump has never been charged, much less convicted, of insurrection under the 14th amendment.

    Comment by Central Ill Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 9:48 am

  13. Candidates for President are selected by the delegates to their respective party conventions, they are not elected by popular vote. So what if Trump’s name is removed from the ballot. Republican primary voters can still vote for delegates pledged to Trump.

    Comment by Nitemayor Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 9:57 am

  14. Judge Tracie Porter must not be familiar with the 2013 Illinois Supreme Court opinion of Goodman v. Ward. The Illinois State Board of Elections lacked the authority to weigh in on constitutional questions because of its limited authority. Porter erred in criticizing the ISBE.

    Comment by Gravitas Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 9:58 am

  15. === Because of this, do you think folks will pull Biden off the ballet in Texas and Florid? This may come back to bite us. ===

    I don’t fine this argument compelling. We should overlook Trump participating in an insurrection and the clear wording of the 14th amendment because a corrupt MAGA GOP might later do something corrupt? They are going to do corrupt things anyway, so doing the right thing is the right call.

    Comment by ChicagoVinny Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 10:00 am

  16. >>>>This may come back to bite us.

    Who’s “us”?

    Seriously, I cannot think of a better way to polarize voters. In a bad way.

    Comment by We've never had one before Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 10:32 am

  17. ===Just FYI- trump has never been charged, much less convicted, of insurrection under the 14th amendment. ===

    Incorrect standard. The 14th Amendment is not a criminal statute. You don’t get charged or convicted under it. You either insurrected, or you didn’t. To that point, there HAVE been findings of fact in trial courts that Trump did engage of insurrection.

    I assume you’re now in favor of the disqualification, since the factual burden has been legally met.

    Comment by Suburban Mom Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 10:32 am

  18. Not a fan of Mapes and I think people convicted of job related felonies should lose their pension but this might be an overreach
    Have they acted on Burke’s pension yet? That is clear cut

    Comment by DuPage Saint Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 10:37 am

  19. @ Chicago Vinny

    I like your reasoning a lot, although I think it inappropriate to disqualify Trump in the absence of a trail and conviction.

    Comment by H-W Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 10:42 am

  20. Love all the constitutional scholars who come crawling out of the woodwork to insist the 14th Amendment is a criminal statute requiring trial and conviction.

    Pro-tip: It isn’t.

    Comment by Suburban Mom Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 10:43 am

  21. ==. Seems like a slippery slope.

    No, as there is a good understanding of what an insurrection is in law and it was implemented without any such requirement for adjudication after the Civil War.

    Comment by ArchPundit Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 11:01 am

  22. ===I like your reasoning a lot, although I think it inappropriate to disqualify Trump in the absence of a trail and conviction.

    Here’s the thing about this argument–the Constitution’s plain reading doesn’t mention a trial and conviction so why would a trial and conviction be needed? Appealing to due process in a document that creates due process, but is silent in this case makes no sense.

    That said, the USSC will almost assuredly require Trump on the ballots.

    Comment by ArchPundit Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 11:05 am

  23. Beat DT at the ballot box. Don’t give him another issue to play the victim about. Nothing is gained by giving him more energy. He loves the attention.

    Comment by low level Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 11:13 am

  24. @ Arch Pundit

    I understand your point about the Constitutional language. However, Trump in fact is currently charged, and a trial is currently scheduled. So there is no need as I see it to jump the gun at this point, particularly given the current divisions among the voters writ large.

    Pitting one group of voters (Democrats like myself) against another group (MAGA Republicans) only serves to create more bravado among both groups, and tends to alienate young people and independent voters from participating in the electoral process. Given the existing cases, I do not see the need to alienate independent voters.

    Comment by H-W Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 11:18 am

  25. =However, Trump in fact is currently charged, and a trial is currently scheduled.=

    Presumably you’re referring to the January 6th trial. It’s increasingly unlikely that the trial will occur before the general election. And even if it does the charges relate to conspiracy and obstruction not necessarily insurrection.

    While I might not agree with the political aspects of bringing forth the 14th amendment case, the plaintiffs are well within their legal rights. And you won’t get a better test case than the matter at hand. Arguably democracy requires us to determine the bounds of Presidential authority regardless of the political consequences.

    Comment by Pundent Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 11:39 am

  26. ===Pitting one group of voters (Democrats like myself) against another group (MAGA Republicans) only serves to create more bravado among both groups, and tends to alienate young people and independent voters from participating in the electoral process. Given the existing cases, I do not see the need to alienate independent voters.

    From a policy point of view I would generally agree–it’s not a fight I would pick. The problem is the plain reading of the language disagrees with me. But again, I don’t think it will matter much so…

    Comment by ArchPundit Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 11:42 am

  27. So come to Illinois, we’ll help you make your girls and boys…

    Comment by cermak_rd Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 12:16 pm

  28. @ Pundent and Arch Pundit

    Agreed.

    Comment by H-W Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 12:21 pm

  29. =Pro-tip: It isn’t.=

    With respect, you are missing the point. Without a trial and conviction it is basically one’s opinion on the matter. I’m not supporting Trump here but to leave him off the ballot without proven guilt is not something I think the State should be doing. We can agree to disagree but this is a path I’d want to avoid.

    Comment by Webster Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 12:41 pm

  30. so not a fan of Mapes, but my trouble with the no pension thing is when a pension is a substitute for social security. there are many government employees who do not have social security credits to get them that coverage. the pension substitutes for that. maybe they should get a pension downgrade, don’t know how that could be figured out. but if they don’t have social security, I’m not for taking all of the pension away.

    Comment by Amalia Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 1:36 pm

  31. Good point, Amalia. In addition, people who are fired from jobs repeatedly and others who go to jail, still acquire Social Security credits. Your point is well taken. I am not sure how one might fix this, other than to create new laws regarding pension penalties.

    Comment by H-W Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 2:19 pm

  32. =Without a trial and conviction it is basically one’s opinion on the matter.=

    Your beef is with the language of the amendment.

    Comment by Pundent Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 2:55 pm

  33. Trump has been charged under the 2002 Sarbanes-Oxley (SOX) law. SOX was passed to deal with securities. Its use to prosecute Trump is “novel,” never having been used before in anything resembling its application like this. When the incumbent administration is making a “novel” use of the law to disqualify his opponent it harms the public’s faith in the system.

    Comment by Trying to be Rational Thursday, Feb 29, 24 @ 4:14 pm

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