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About that little weekend setback…

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I have only one thing to say…

Swing away while you can.

posted by Rich Miller
Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:10 pm

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Thats pretty bold for the fan of a team whose manager barely speaks broken english and just got swept by a team that is 20 games over .500 and currently holds the best record in MLB.

Comment by Dan S, a voter and Cubs Fan Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:13 pm
I’ll take Ozzie over any manager in baseball. I understand him perfectly. Not sure why you don’t.

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:15 pm
Huh? Perhaps you were out of the country this weekend. The Sox choked. Badly. Someone was impersonating Joe Crede and A.J. Pierzynski at the plate. It was sad. Good thing you missed it.

Comment by Adolfo Phillips Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:16 pm
“I understand him perfectly.”

Do you have someone interpret for you? Cause the rest of the world can’t understand him one bit.

Comment by ChiCountryGuy Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:18 pm
“I understand him perfectly.” The only thing I understand when Ozzie is speaking are thesensor bleeps.

Comment by Dan S, a voter and Cubs Fan Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:24 pm
Ah, it’s ok Cub fans. Bottom line is that the Sox can’t beat the Cubs heads up, so Sox fans will deter to meaningless insults. Looking forward to another sweep at Comiskey…or whatever its called now.

Comment by Sinister Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:25 pm
“I understand him perfectly.” Come on now, let’s not get crazy. Sox fans can talk all they want, but we’ll have the last laugh this year when Ozzie and his boys are sitting at home watching the Cubs in October.

Comment by K to the 3 Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:30 pm
Rich,

Again, I comment your commitment to your team. Well, that is, if you can call whatever southside thing that played the Cubs this week a “team.”

This coming from a guy who was with you and Rep. Joe Lyons at Saputos the night the Sox won it all in 2005 — and gradulating you and your team in all my Cubbie bitterness and all-things-Chicago loyalty. Where did that team go?

Comment by unclesam Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:32 pm
Take a breath, everybody — 162 games, long way to go. We’ll do it again this weekend.

I think we can all take pleasure in the facts that both teams are in first and that we’re the marquee Sunday night game two weeks in a row on the Eastern Seaboard Productions Network. And that’s with the Yankees and Mets going this weekend, too.

Comment by wordslinger Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:33 pm
Show me lovable losers and I’ll show you losers.

Comment by Anon Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:33 pm
Meant “congratulating” you.

Anyway, we’ll see how things shape up this weekend at the Cell.

Comment by unclesam Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:34 pm
It’s true. I wouldn’t lie about that. Plus, I even understand Emil Jones and Gary Forby. No kidding at all. Every word. I have a knack for those things.

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:34 pm
Before being swept, Ozzie claimed he hates Wrigley Field because there are rats as big as pigs deep inside “the friendly confines.” Maybe he realized he’s afraid of rats.

Comment by Anonymous Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:36 pm
‘that little weekend setback’…..ah, always on message.

Comment by Vote Quimby! Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:37 pm
I never have gotten the fanatacism with which some Cardinals and Sox fans are “anti-fans” of the Cubs. Pretty lame if you ask me. Anybody that would actually buy a shirt like the one you display probably has an “I’m With Stupid” shirt they think is hilarious, too. . .

Comment by Ted Abernathy Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:41 pm
jealous of our unique history of success, I guess…

Comment by Vote Quimby! Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:42 pm
Ozzie was quoted as saying he was not afraid of letting Edmonds hit against his pitchers after 2 home runs on Saturday. Then he turns around and intentionally walks him on Sunday.

I agree with Ozzie’s managing, but disagree with his incessant talk of all that is simply nonsense. His should just shut up and manage.

Comment by Crystal Clear Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:43 pm
i’m a cub fan, so obviously i enjoyed the weekend. next weekend at il taxpayer field is going to be a bigger test. before anyone gets carried away, let’s remember that both teams got worked over by the rays recently. another 3 and out in the playoffs won’t cut it this year.

Comment by freelance editor Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:45 pm
===I never have gotten the fanatacism with which some Cardinals and Sox fans are “anti-fans” of the Cubs===

All you have to do is go back to 2005 on this blog and look at all the Sox hating by oh, so sensitive Cub fans.

Spare me the whining.

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:46 pm
all too sweet - The Sox have their work cut out for them — I predict the Choke is over Rich -

Comment by Sweep.......... Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:48 pm
The only thing sweeter than sweeping the Sox will be sweeping the Sox in their own house. Whoosh.

Comment by Cubtastic Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:48 pm
Anon, I’m sure there were rats in Wrigley Field this weekend. But Lou Pinella and the team swept them right out.

Comment by Crafty Girl Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:48 pm
I guess the “official drink” was being served and consumed in the visitor’s dugout this past weekend.

Comment by Six Degrees of Separation Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:49 pm
Go cubs go, go cubs go, hey chicago whatta ya say, the cubs are gonna win today. Nice to hear that three days in a row. Can’t wait for the next three times inside the Cell.

Comment by Kevin Fanning Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:50 pm
KF-

Well, one thing’s for certain. If the Sox win any games next weekend, we will hear a mullet-worthy anthem over the loudspeakers rather than a Steeve Goodman song.

Comment by Six Degrees of Separation Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:52 pm
Lol

Comment by Kevin Fanning Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:55 pm
I root for 2 teams, The Chicago Cubs and anyone who plays the St Louis Cardinals except the Chicago White Sox.

Comment by Dan S, a voter and Cubs Fan Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:57 pm
Yep - they beat the Sox, fair and square. At-a-boy to the Cubs.

Still won’t dampen my enthusiasm for the Sox. Go Sox!!!! The Sox still have the better stadium, Wrigley is a dump - bring in the bulldozers and build a new one. People were worried when they were going to tear down the old stadium, but since United went up, I don’t hear any longings for the old one - same will happen with Wrigley.

Comment by trafficmatt Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 1:57 pm
Aside from the troughs, Wrigley is a perfect place for baseball. 32-8, baby!

Comment by Vote Quimby! Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:01 pm
Speaking for thoughtful Cub fans…yeah it’s nice to get a sweep at home. But let’s not get too overjoyed about taking 3 from a team that is so clearly overestimated. The Sox are in baseball’s worst division and are destined for second half collapse that should cost both Ozzie and Williams their jobs. At least Ozzie-that was horrible managing this weekend.

Yeah, it’s nice to get the sweep. But taking 3 from the quality of team the Sox are right now is comparable to sweeping the Kane County Cougars.

Comment by Ryno Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:07 pm
Chicago politics and chicago baseball, I wonder which is more devisive?

Comment by Ghost Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:08 pm
Wow Rich. It took until 2pm to get this posted. Are you OK?

Thanks for acknowledging the Cubs sweep of the AL Central Division leaders.

Unofficial reports from the 22nd and 19th police stations indicate a tripling of arrests made in or near Wrigley field. According to my CPD source, a typical weekend game at Wrigley results in 20-30 arrests for various incidents. This weekend saw about 100 per game.

Nice work, Sox fans!

Comment by 47th Ward Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:09 pm
Um, actually, I posted this a little after one. You must be a Hoosier. As a Cub fan, you’re already a hoser. lol

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:14 pm
I doubt if all those extra arrests were Sox fans: probably an increase in broom thefts.

Comment by Vote Quimby! Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:15 pm
I’ve spent the past 24 years as a tortured Cubs fan married to a Sox fan. Our son is also a Sox fan. They gang up and pick on me non-stop. They say I’m demented for cheering the Cubs. I don’t whine. I don’t complain….. Just sayin. I take it well. I HAVE been gloating this week. How sweet it is! I’ll go easy on em and limit my gloat. I know their dainty little White Sox ego’s cannot handle much ribbing. hehe

Comment by Say WHAT? Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:21 pm
I’ve tried to take the high road here, but all this talk of arrests….

Did you hear about the Sox fan who got jumped outside Wrigley Field? Three guys held him down while another guy did his hair.

Did you hear about the Cub fan who got beat up outside Comiskey Park? He was taken to the Bridgeport precinct, held for six hours then released with just a warning.

Comment by wordslinger Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:26 pm
You can understand Emil? Will you be going to the leaders’ meetings to translate? We might get this budget thing cleared up yet!

By the way, down here we were counting on your Sox this weekend to help the Cards pick up a couple of games on the Cubs. Try harder next weekend, will ya!?

Comment by S. Illinois Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:27 pm
I will stop worrying about a Cubs collapse on the day their World Series victory is officially entered into the record books, the video tapes are stored in the National Archives, and the newspaper reports have been microfilmed and placed in an abandoned mine shaft on Spitsbergen Island for future generations to find. Until then, I’m not taking any chances.

Comment by Muskrat Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:31 pm
I can understand while S. Illinois was rooting for the Sox to help the Cards pick up a couple of games on the Cubs…the hapless Cardinals can’t win on their own. And what’s with Ozzie throwing whatever it is into his mouth constantly? He looks like a bird. Maybe we can’t understand a word he says because his mouth is full of sunflower seed shells.

Comment by Ta Da Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:46 pm
Can you say sore loser-Rich?

Comment by Anonymous45 Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:47 pm
Awww. Hurt feelings, Anonymous45? That’s so precious.

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:50 pm
Yikes…..losing for a century makes you guys tense and spiteful.

Comment by S. Illinois Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:52 pm
The Cubs once again will win another title…in June, as they always do. It’s theOctober ones that are tricky…

Comment by Anonymous Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:52 pm
Ahh cub fans. While I acknowledge most I know are die hard next to none, it always amazes me how desperate they are for their beloved team that a half season in 99 of not sucking can cloud their memory from the other 98 and a half.

Sorry rich I have to put my tin foil hat on around these rabid north siders…..

Comment by 618er Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:53 pm
You could change the post to Choke, the official drink of Chicago baseball. Both teams have had their fair share of chokes although the Cubs have been more mormorable. Let’s just remember that two teams in a great city like Chicago should have way more than 5 World Series Championships since 1902. White Sox fans, you have one more than Cubs fans, congrats, but you’ve also thrown one more, so we’ll call it even.

Comment by Jaded Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:53 pm
Ta Da: No doubt! The closeups of Ozzie made him look like a possessed bird, slamming handfuls of seeds in his mouth and spitting them all over. He looked real angry. He shoulda used his time to give his guys a pep talk. They sure needed one. LOL

Comment by Say WHAT? Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 2:59 pm
I’m afraid that some Cubs fans who think that “this is the year” (yet again) are too much like Charlie Brown, who each year believes Lucy when she tells him that this time she will hold the football and actually let him kick it! Something bad will happen again this year - don’t we all know that!

Comment by Legal Eagle Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:00 pm
And they say Cubs are sore losers……. hahahahah ha!

Comment by Say WHAT? Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:02 pm
Nobody ever called a Cub fan a sore loser. You guys love to lose. You live for it.

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:07 pm
Rich, with all due respect and what-not,

Sox fans have been rooting for a team that almost always loses as much as the Cubs. 2005 was great for you, and it was also the first Sox pennant since 1959, and the one before that….?

By the way, it is Cubs fans, plural like the team. Or are you using it as others use Democrat Party?

Comment by 47th Ward Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:15 pm
We never enjoyed losing. That’s the big difference between us and Cub fans.

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:18 pm
And I use “Cub fan” because that’s what Harry used to always say…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwfV5Xjr_Vg

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:20 pm
Great thread, if you are a Cub fan. Fun to watch Rich collect all these posts in the event the Cubs lose a playoff game, which hardly ever happens…wait, wrong century.

Comment by BandCamp Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:20 pm
Problem this Cards fan has with Cubs fans is that they’re sore winners on the rare occasions they do win. It never fails the good season they have every ten or so they are the rudest, most obnoxious sports fans in baseball. It’s understandable since they have such little experience winning, but it’s still pathetic.

What other sports franchise has had such little success that they actually have to fly a flag with a “W” on it whenever they win a game in a 162-game season?! Ever seen a FADED “W” flag? I haven’t! THAT is what makes Cubs fans losers, no matter how many 1st halves of the season they win! Also fitting that it’s a surrender flag they put that “W” on. LOL

Comment by Amuzing Myself Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:21 pm
Meh, I was really hoping the Sox had brought their A game last weekend.

Comment by Levois Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:25 pm
Poor Harry could barely speak after the 6th inning most games. And yes, he was a Cub fan, Bud man. But english being our preferred language, the proper useage is Cubs fan, ie, fan of the Cubs.

If you want to get all historical, we could discuss some of the things Harry and Jimmy Piersall said while under the influence of Fallstaff at old Comiskey. Isn’t that part of the reason your team let him go?

Holy cow!

Comment by 47th Ward Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:25 pm
===Fun to watch Rich collect all these posts in the event the Cubs lose a playoff game===

Now you’re catching on.

Watch out! It’s a trap!

lol

Ah, this blog can be so fun sometimes.

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:28 pm
Amuzing Myself you have once again proved my point that the only thing worse than the Cardinals are their fans.

Comment by Ta Da Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:50 pm
Rich, I’m not sure about you but I look forward to watching the Sox vs. the Cardinals in October. . .it would really ruin a Cubs fan day!

Comment by wndycty Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:55 pm
“little weekend setback”? Rich, are the Spin Sisters working for you now?

Comment by Eurepedes Pantsoff Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:57 pm
wndycty - we got to watch the Sox and Cardinals in October a couple of years ago. It didn’t turn out very well for any of us.

Comment by S. Illinois Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:00 pm
TaDa, you have proved once again that there is nothing on the planet Earth more thin-skinned than a Cub fan.

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:00 pm
hahahahahahahahaha

The Cubs sweep the Sox and this is the best you can do? Put a “Choke” sign out? Ha! Who exactly was it that choked over the weekend?

Who wrote this post, anyway? I didn’t know Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf was working again!

hahahahaha

Comment by The Guild of Calamitous Intent Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:12 pm
Truth be told, even if I wasn’t a “fan of the Cubs” I would pretend to be - just to upset my thin skinned husband and son Sox fans. GO CUBS!!!!

Comment by Say WHAT? Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:19 pm
Whoa. The venom here is unreal. Maybe this is the problem with the leaders, three Cub fans, one Cards fan, and the Sox fan won’t show up. Baseball screws up everything.

Comment by Truth Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:24 pm
I just got done asking Ronnie “Woo Woo” what he thought.

He said, “Cubs Woo, Rich Woo.”

He then repeated the chant another 30 times until he ran out of gas.

Comment by The 'Broken Heart' of Rogers Park Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:25 pm
T, if you think the venom is bad now, you shoulda been here in ‘05. What goes around, comes around.

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:29 pm
Some of the most clever, insightful wit is born from the comparing/contrasting of groups of grown men who are paid millions to play a child’s game.

Only in America, baby, and that’s all right with me.

Comment by This guy Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:34 pm
Wasn’t Steve Goodman one of John Prine’s singing/songwriting buddies? Rich, shouldn’t that be enough to have some sympathy for the Northsiders?

Comment by Paul Richardson Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:40 pm
Ta Da:

Of course, the only response from a Cubs fan is to say that Cards fans are horrible. Nice. No depth. No reason. No support for the claim. Just meaningless spite. Typical. I love it. Best part, by doing it, you somehow think it makes you look superior. Hilarious.

Comment by Amuzing Myself Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:40 pm
Paul, Steve is dead.

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:44 pm
I have a theory about the rats. I think the Cubs released them on Contraress (sorry for the spelling) during the fourth inning of Saturday’s game. It explains everything. I would take the Sox long term over Cubs (Completely Useless By September) any day.

Comment by Leigh Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:46 pm
As a Cardinal fan, it’s funny to watch Sox vs. Cub fan go at it.

Mean while back at the ranch, seventeen pennants (most in the senior circuit), ten World Championships, nine Division Titles and thirty-seven Hall of Famers.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Comment by Speaking At Will Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 4:51 pm
Sox fans calling Cub fans thin-skinned is laughable. There are any number of adjectives that can be attributed to Cubs fans, but thin-skinned is hardly one of them. Sox fans have, again and again, proven that the Cubs’ futility is more pleasurable than Sox’ success. Rich’s comments throughout this string are collectively “Exhibit A”. Inferiority complex defined.

Comment by The Doc Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 5:00 pm
Once again, I would refer you back to 2005 on this very blog. Thanks for stopping by.

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 5:05 pm
Tell me with a straight face that Sox fans aren’t bitter and envious of the both local and national attention the Cubs enjoy. Certainly more so than the inverse, the 2005 season aside. Sox fans spew venom when referring to the Cubs, while Cubs fans by and large (again, with the 2005 season caveat) don’t care all that much about the success or lack thereof of the south siders, the crosstown classic notwithstanding.

Comment by The Doc Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 5:23 pm
You ACTUALLY mean the Sox, don’t you? Oh, yeah, Ozzie ball.

Comment by i'm sure it's been said, but Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 5:25 pm
This weekend was almost as good as, well, you know what I mean. Boom Shaka Laka!!! Go Cubs, Go Obama

Comment by Eddy Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 5:33 pm
I again refer you back to 2005. For instance, this was posted just after the Sox clinched, or this one posted after I got tix during the playoffs,

There’s more, but you get the idea.

Stop projecting, Doc. It’s unbecoming.

Comment by Rich Miller Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 5:39 pm
I don’t hate the Sox. I luv Ozzie, his pitchers and most of all, their doting fans who can’t understand why the Cubs are loved and the Sox, well, are the Sox. Can you say Sweep?

Comment by Bud Man Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 5:44 pm
I think the diatribes from the ‘Siders on this blog are typical of Fans locked in a Broom Closet for a weekend.

Comment by Eurepedes Pantsoff Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 6:58 pm
ok rich, i luv Ozzie, cuz he’s so goofy…but the Sox play in a concrete pit on the sout’ side…could never ever compare to Wrigley, even when the Cubs lose…

Comment by Anonymous45 Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 7:08 pm
Please be gentle with me, I’m not a huge baseball fan, was a casual Cubs fan just because I lived near them, yet never thought of the Sox as anything bad, just felt lucky our city and state had two teams.

What I don’t get are southern Illinoisans that prefer a team from another state to two of their own state’s teams. I mean, I once lived as close to Indiana as the people in say, Collinsville do to St. Louis, but it never occurred to me to root for a non-Illinois team. Seemed somehow disloyal or unpatriotic.

So regarding the Illinois Card fans, How did it get to be like this?

Is it really just laziness, picking the team that’s closest? As I said, I’m only a casual fan and don’t follow the game that closely, I’ll watch payoffs and series games if the Cubs or Sox are in it but otherwise nothing. Was there something in the Card’s past that endears them to Southern Illinoisans so much more?

Comment by Infield flypaper Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 8:16 pm
I do not know what was said here in 2005, but this Cubs fan wanted the White Sox to win that year, in the playoffs.

It seems to me that White Sox fans are like the kind of radical Palestinians who hate the other team (Israel/Cubs) more than they want to see their own team win.

In any even, the Cubs have proven they are a far superior team than the White Sox over the past two seasons, and the White Sox and their fans do not seem to have the mental make-up to deal with their inferiority issues. Thankfully, Rod Blagojevich has kept out of this.

On a unifying note, at least we all hate the Packers, right?

Comment by Establishment Republican Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 9:55 pm
Kinda like takin’ yer bawl (hehehe) & goin’ home, ain’t it, sonny?

Comment by Snidely Whiplash Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 10:04 pm
besides, we all know the Rockies are the best team in baseball

Comment by Ghost Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 10:51 pm
It’s just like high school all over again, the “popular kids’ versus the ‘wanna be’s’. No matter what kind of money, awards, etc.the ‘wanna be’s’ wind up with, they still are.

End of story.

Comment by 312 Tuesday, Jun 24, 08 @ 12:35 am
Just remember kids, arguing on the internet is like the special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.

Go Cubs.

Comment by Super Anon Tuesday, Jun 24, 08 @ 1:05 am
As a Cubs fan, I promise not to laugh!

(Snicker!)

Comment by Louis G. Atsaves Tuesday, Jun 24, 08 @ 1:57 am
To Amuzing Myself - Monday, Jun 23, 08 @ 3:21 pm: The W flag has a mate, it’s a blue flag with a L on it. Both are part of the history of the ballpark and the manual scoreboard. Thae flags are so the neighborhood would know what the outcome of the game is that day. I could be wrong but I believe this was started by Bill Veeck.

Comment by Dan S, a voter and Cubs Fan Tuesday, Jun 24, 08 @ 7:12 am
Mike Nadel: Cubs are contenders, White Sox pretenders http://www.sj-r.com/sports/x2229
93674/Mike-Nadel-Cubs-a
re-contenders-White-Sox-pretenders

Comment by Dan S, a voter and Cubs Fan Tuesday, Jun 24, 08 @ 7:21 am
Rich…..One word…..SSSSSSWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPP!!!!!!

Comment by He Makes Ryan Look Like a Saint Tuesday, Jun 24, 08 @ 8:37 am