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CTU praises arbitrator’s report on contract talks but rejects recommendations as falling short
Neutral “fact-finder” said CPS has more money to offer in contract negotiations — a positive for CTU. But union officials on Wednesday said the arbitrator only made recommendations on two of 15 key areas. CPS said it was still reviewing the report.
The Chicago Teachers Union said an independent arbitrator found that Chicago Public Schools officials have more money to offer in contract negotiations than they’re letting on — representing an unexpectedly positive outcome for the union. But CTU leaders said they would reject the neutral fact-finder’s report because it fell short in other areas — a move that could take the school district closer to a teachers’ strike.
CTU leaders said they were stunned by the report’s findings on financial issues, calling it the most favorable the union has received in the 15 years since a state law was created allowing for a neutral arbitrator to weigh in on CPS-CTU negotiating disputes.
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The report is here.
posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 9:37 am
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We reject your legitimacy unless you absolutely agree with us 100 percent of the time.
That is so on brand for CTU.
Comment by TNR Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 9:43 am
Stacy Davis-Gatea has fired anyone who’s receipt critical of her and thinks she can do no wrong.
She’s going to lose her re election campaign if she can’t get over herself and agree a contract.
Comment by Chi resident Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 9:51 am
=We reject your legitimacy unless you absolutely agree with us 100 percent of the time.
That is so on brand for CTU.=
Spot on.
Also, I am still wondering why the CTU contract is such a big deal when the firefighters have gone more than three years without a contract. Seems like that one should be a priority. Unless CTU owns the mayor’s office I guess.
Comment by JS Mill Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 9:53 am
Unless they agreed with the CTU on all 15 items the CTU submitted completely, the CTU was going to reject the finding. I get it; they elected a mayor; what good does that do you if you can’t get everything you want?
Comment by OneMan Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 10:02 am
Think positive. Both sides can and will come to an agreement. Sure, there are issues to be solved . But, they’ll get it done. CTU still has a lot of support from Chicago taxpayers. It’s not like schools are going to be closed down.
Comment by Steve Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 10:04 am
I stopped reading when the dude made the claim that more counselors at schools will have only a marginal impact on student mental health.
K.
Comment by Chicagoan Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 10:07 am
==Also, I am still wondering why the CTU contract is such a big deal when the firefighters ==
Idk, man. I feel like the quality of CPS has more of a bearing on things like population growth and the tax base than the Chicago Fire Department.
Comment by SWSider Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 10:09 am
== still wondering why the CTU contract is such a big deal when the firefighters have gone more than three years without a contract. ==
I think it’s because teachers can go on strike while firefighters are not legally permitted to. The threat of a work stoppage draws a lot more attention.
== CTU still has a lot of support from Chicago taxpayers. ==
Can you point to a poll backing that statement up? Everything I’ve seen says the exact opposite.
Comment by TNR Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 10:23 am
=Idk, man.=
Agreed, in many ways. I am not trying to downplay the importance of a teachers contract. But fire dept is pretty important when you need it and they have gone three years without a contract. That is too long
Comment by JS Mill Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 10:24 am
Message to local journalism, if you reach such dramatically different conclusions such that I have to read the primary sources myself to figure out what is going on, you do not really provide me, or any of your readers, a service.
Comment by Three Dimensional Checkers Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 10:32 am
So the independent fact-finder doesn’t believe in relying on fiscal magic revenue beans? That had to be a bitter pill for CTU leadership to read.
If CTU got a few Statehouse allies to actually introduce bills for some of their 25 revenue ideas that might help move this negotiation forward. Nothing like forcing a revenue bill to the floor to likely get 100 no votes to sharpen the mind.
Comment by ChicagoBars Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 10:33 am
CTU failing to read the room. TNR spot on.
Comment by Original Rambler Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 10:43 am
The negotiation should start with defining the pot of money. Then, where do you want it. They are doing it backwards. Everything in the contract has a cost. Here is our list of demands. You pay for it.
Comment by Two Left Feet Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 10:55 am
I guess we will find out, but the nonsense coming out of CTU and their puppet mayor makes it pretty hard to get the facts, let alone support. CTU will be lucky to get a strike vote, let alone support from the general public.
Comment by 44 Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 10:56 am
=CTU still has a lot of support from Chicago taxpayers. =
I’m gonna need to see the data on this one too. It ain’t 2012 anymore. In my neck of the woods - which supported CTU at an 70% clip during the 2012 strike - I’d wager support is somewhere around the Mayor’s approval rating. *Everyone* knows who produced him
Comment by Joe Bidenopolous Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 12:22 pm
=CTU still has a lot of support from Chicago taxpayers. =
No. The latest M3 Strategies poll had CTU way underwater: 30% favorable, 60% unfavorable. M3 is the IPI’s pollster, so reason to be skeptical. But a lot of the polling in the school board races showed similar numbers. Suffice to say, the CTU is nowhere near as popular as it was in the days when Karen Lewis was fighting Rahm. They are now closely associated with a mayor who struggles to maintain double-digit approval ratings.
Comment by Roman Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 1:44 pm
CTU still has a lot of support from Chicago taxpayers”
Even less for Gates-Davis ; moms who send their children to a CPS School don’t want to hear from a mom who doesn’t, her words ring hollow.
Comment by Notatechie Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 2:41 pm
I think there may be a perception that there is more support for the CTU than there is for a few reasons.
Being out there and being “anti-CTU” likely would not do your CPS-attending child any favors. If you really wanted to poll on it, I would suggest asking ‘Do your neighbors support the CTU?” You might get a better answer.
There is a lack of overlap between the CTU’s goals and parents’ goals. Many parents, by their very nature, will ask themselves, “What does my kid need?”. Many of the social justice things the CTU is looking for may not be things that most parents think their kid needs.
There may also be a general wearyness with the CTU at this point. I think folks have started to tune them out at this point.
Then again, I may be wrong.
Comment by OneMan Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 3:10 pm
Chicago Resident here. We’re not that intellectually deficient to realize that fewer students go to CPS, CTU wants MORE money, and the quality of the schools are not good.
If CTU said “Hey, maybe having a school at 20% capacity is a disservice, what can we do better?”, I could see that helping them. Alas, they want more to do less.
That’s why Chicago taxpayers are Nope’in right out of supporting CTU.
Comment by Old IL Dude Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 3:19 pm
When are ctu board elections?
They could do so much better at the helm.
Comment by One Term Mayor Thursday, Feb 6, 25 @ 5:31 pm