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* Some excitement at the MJM trial today…

* False alarm…

* So, what’s this about?…

The jury instructions on this point are here.

* More…

* So, when will this thing end? Nobody truly knows…

Hang loose.

posted by Rich Miller
Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 12:54 pm

Comments

  1. If they are hung up on whether ” salaries paid “by means of bribery” can be considered a “valuable thing” or “something of value.” then it is not looking good for MJM

    Comment by Donnie Elgin Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 1:10 pm

  2. That is not a juror question you want to see if you are charged with anything related to bribery

    Comment by JB13 Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 1:24 pm

  3. I wouldn’t try to read too much into this. The only thing that is clear from these notes are that the jurors are taking their duties seriously and are putting in the work.

    Comment by Remember the Alamo II Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 1:46 pm

  4. Couldn’t they Zoom in Judge Blakey to decide this instead of a ’substitute’ who, I assume, did not sit through the entire trial and instruction conference?

    Comment by DEE Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 1:57 pm

  5. That is a circular definition of “bribery.”

    If I am an elected official who owns a trucking business, and someone hires my trucking business, that is not a “bribe.” It is not even a bribe if they are hoping to curry favor with me. It is only a bribe if they pay me more than fair market value for my services, with the intent to influence a specific public action.

    My regular trucking fees are bona fide.

    Atleast, that is how we have treated ethics for centuries.

    Otherwise, everyone renting a room at a Trump hotel is potentially guilty of bribery.

    Comment by Felonious Gru Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 1:59 pm

  6. Depends on if it’s frick’en golden.

    Comment by Give Us Barrabbas Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 2:34 pm

  7. =That is a circular definition of “bribery.”=

    “Judge Chang says “a bona fide salary that’s paid in the usual course of business — that’s not a thing of value” under the laws in question.

    “The flip side … is that salary, wages fees … paid for a job obtained by means of bribery, that’s not bona fide.”"

    It is straight from the statute

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/666

    Comment by Donnie Elgin Friday, Feb 7, 25 @ 2:42 pm

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