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* The gun guys are gonna have to wait a bit…
A federal court has increased the time Gov. Pat Quinn has to think over a plan to allow Illinoisans to carry concealed weapons.
Lawmakers had faced a Saturday deadline to pass a concealed-carry law. They approved a proposal Friday, but Attorney General Lisa Madigan asked the court to push back the deadline to July 9 to give Quinn more time to decide whether to sign the bill.
The court agreed Tuesday.
Lisa Madigan spokeswoman Natalie Bauer said because Quinn by law usually gets 60 days to review legislation, asking the court for 30 more days for Quinn was reasonable.
* From the stay order authored by judges Richard Posner, Joe Flaum and Claire Williams…
No further extensions to stay the court’s mandate will be granted.
posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:26 am
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30 more days?? Is Quinn a slow reader or what?
Comment by BehindTheScenes Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:29 am
Ridiculous. The state gets 180 days and needs 30 more. Then 180 to implement, which I’m sure they will need and request an additional 90 to accomplish.
Gah I wish I could taste the liberal tears when this is all done. Just delaying the inevitable.
Comment by Anon Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:32 am
It’s Chicago. I mean Illinois.
Comment by Jechislo Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:33 am
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No further extensions to stay the court’s mandate will be granted.
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thats all that matters.
Comment by RonOglesby Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:33 am
I agree. It has to be based on the press of other business. What bothers me is that they had six months to make it happen. Granted, Quinn did not have a part in the negotiations, but still, it seems a bit silly. Does Quinn expect the legislature to change any of the provisions of a bill that was contested by both sides? Hopefully not. If he does not sign the bill, then Constitutional carry comes into effect. So why not just sign it and move on to more important things?
Comment by Slick Willy Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:34 am
–It’s Chicago. I mean Illinois.–
So which is it? The same court that tossed the state law paving the way for conceal-carry is now a bunch of Chicago/Illinois hacks because they grant a 30-day stay?
That’s gratitude for you.
Comment by wordslinger Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:38 am
Anyone familiar at all with how the court system works (especially the federal system) would know that this is not a controversial decision. Move along, nothing to see here.
Comment by Fred's Mustache Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:42 am
- Gah I wish I could taste the liberal tears when this is all done. -
Well, wouldn’t that be a nice change of pace from us constantly tasting all of yours over this issue.
Comment by Small Town Liberal Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:43 am
Stop whining about 30 days. This is a done deal no matter what PQ does. The bill was passed with veto proof majorities. If PQ vetos part or all he can be overturned. Messy business, democracy.
Comment by dupage dan Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:43 am
Speaking of gratitude and paving the way, perhaps I’ve missed the “thank yous” from the c-c advocates to Mary Shepard.
Without her bravery and courage of conviction to pursue change in the public arena after being the victim of a terrible crime, you all wouldn’t be in the position today of complaining about a 30-day stay.
I don’t think anyone has dared accuse her of being a “prop” or “being used” for taking her life experience and seeking change in public policy.
Comment by wordslinger Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:46 am
“Thirty days,/em>? But I’m mad NOW!”
http://goo.gl/5U44v
– MrJM
Comment by MrJM Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:47 am
HB 183 still has not yet been certified by the legislature and sent to Quinn for review and action — so I think the additional 30 days is reasonable.
However, it does allow Quinn additional time to overthink the issue.
Comment by unclesam Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:47 am
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Comment by circular firing squad Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:49 am
“What bothers me is that they had six months to make it happen.”
It is very true that they had six months. On the other hand, how long have they been working on the pension issue? After years there is still no solution to the problem and may not be for months(?) or even years(?) to come.
“Does Quinn expect the legislature to change any of the provisions of a bill that was contested by both sides?”
Changes by the GA are not too probable in my view. I hope however that Quinn will make changes to the bill on his own. The section on page 10 lines 19 to 21 about the Concealed Carry Licensing Review Board states
“(h) Meetings of the Board shall not be subject to the Open
Meetings Act and records of the Board shall not be subject to
the Freedom of Information Act.”
I see this section as a prime candidate for change. If it remains in the bill then one must ask what is so secret that all record of it must be kept from the public? What is being hidden by this section? Why is it being hidden?
Comment by Small Town Taxpayer Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 9:58 am
>>>>> Speaking of gratitude and paving the way, perhaps I’ve missed the “thank yous” from the c-c advocates to Mary Shepard.
Yes, you did miss it. This is not the venue to offer thanks and praise to Mary Shepard, she does not lurk here among the politicos and wordsharks.
About 8500 people thanked her in person in Springfield 3 months ago.
Comment by John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:06 am
I called Mary right after to the vote to tell her the news and say thanks for all she had done.
Comment by Todd Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:18 am
>>>Gah I wish I could taste the liberal tears when this is all done. Just delaying the inevitable.
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Don’t forget, Madigan requested and was granted an extension to appeal the 7th Circuit’s ruling about a month ago. She has until June 23rd to file an appeal to SCOTUS.
Comment by Tam 212 Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:20 am
I just don’t know what 30 days is going to do. If PQ vetoes, there’s no time to get an override vote in veto session so they’d have to call a special. Just don’t see that happening or any desire to re-litigate this issue now.
Comment by Chicago Cynic Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:22 am
*** Changes by the GA are not too probable in my view. I hope however that Quinn will make changes to the bill on his own. The section on page 10 lines 19 to 21 about the Concealed Carry Licensing Review Board states ***
Agreed. However, at the most, such a change should take less than a week.
*** On the other hand, how long have they been working on the pension issue? After years there is still no solution to the problem and may not be for months(?) or even years(?) to come. ***
So the courts should enable the legislatures’ continued dysfunction? Not meaning to argue, just sayin…
Comment by Slick Willy Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:25 am
July 9th-Just enough time for another good killing weekend on the South Side.
Comment by downstater Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:27 am
Now the political football shifts back to Quinn. Does he 1)veto the bill( more likely an AV to add stuff the gun control people want) to set himself apart from LM or 2) sign the bill to the dismay of the uber progressive who are perhaps his only base or 3) do nothing until after the 30 days and force Lisa to act (remembering the june 23rd deadline). from a Democratic partisan primary perspective, how does he positively differentiate himself from LM? He can’t win downstate and the numbers don’t move the needle as much as the gun control crowd in Chicago and the burbs anyway. policy aside (and I think a veto is bad) this is tee’d up perfectly for a “rewrite/do-right” option.
Comment by In the know Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:28 am
meh, 30 days extension is an annoyance, but no big deal.
I wonder what the real end game will be.
Comment by Plutocrat03 Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:47 am
C’mon, did anyone expect anything else to come out of this request? 60 days is the norm, 30 days was requested and granted; while I believe that Quinn already knows what he is going to do,the request is just routine. It actually seems reasonable to me, and I have wanted to be able to carry a gun for years. The only thing surprising was the that last sentence saying there would be NO further Stays….
Comment by downstate commissioner Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:49 am
What I want to know is-Did Quinn requests this from his “state attorney” Lisa, or did she do it on her own? If she did it on her own, is there some kind of political angle to it?
Comment by downstate commissioner Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 10:52 am
“Speaking of gratitude and paving the way, perhaps I’ve missed the “thank yous” from the c-c advocates to Mary Shepard.”
Many of us have thanked her personally and in writing.
Comment by Confused Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 11:00 am
=== About 8500 people thanked her in person in Springfield 3 months ago ===
And word missed that?
Comment by dupage dan Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 11:15 am
>>>>> And word missed that?
I did not see him there.
Mary Shepard was hard to miss.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SpswYt2Ak9I/UToT3Z_Ue0I/AAAAAAAACks/mU05Suic51c/s1600/shepard.JPG
Comment by John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 11:43 am
–>>>>> And word missed that?
I did not see him there.
Mary Shepard was hard to miss.–
JJ, I was the real good-looking guy.
As you know, I was referring to all the attaboys that have been passed out on this blog to the NRA, Phelps, et. al for c-c passage (none for MJM, curiously, who put it over the top).
Mary Shepard has received very few mentions here in the last few months, even though it was her bravery in the wake a terrible crime that got the ball rolling.
If you and DD are sensitive to that omission, I fully understand.
But, then again, a lot of folks here believe that those who take their life experience and use it to influence public policy on guns are just “being used as props.”
Comment by wordslinger Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 11:53 am
Show us my quote, word, where I passed on any kudos to anybody about this issue. This was a team effort all the way. I don’t know many of those who worked behind the scenes or at the public events because this isn’t my life’s work. Just thought your poke was another boring word post seeking to rile folks up. Didn’t work. End of story.
Comment by dupage dan Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 12:37 pm
I’m sure a ringing endorsement of MJM from me is just what he wants. . . I’ll even bet it’s on his Christmas list.
Comment by Todd Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 12:40 pm
– Just thought your poke was another boring word post seeking to rile folks up. Didn’t work. End of story.–
And I thought it was to point out the bravery of the woman who got the ball rolling. But you can take it however you want, dude.
Comment by wordslinger Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 12:41 pm
Isn’t it Joel Flaum, not Joe Flaum?
Comment by Jim Wednesday, Jun 5, 13 @ 3:20 pm
Pretty simple really, Mary is using her experience to restore our constitutional rights, certain east coast liberals are using theirs to restrict them - big difference.
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