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* These new red light cam revelations are pretty darned horrible. There’s just too much hot stuff in there for excerpts, so go read the whole thing.

posted by Rich Miller
Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 10:28 am

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  1. IBM — the company awarded a 10-year, $188 million contract to operate the computer system used to generate millions of parking, red-light camera and speed-camera tickets — makes the final determination of when tickets are issued, not the city.

    City of Chicago: Watson should this be a ticket or not?

    Watson: If I am smart enough to win Jeopardy there is no way I am dumb enough to get in the middle of this.

    Comment by OneMan Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 10:37 am

  2. Camera proponents lost me when they starting reducing the length of the yellow light just to increase revenue. I guess that whole safety thing was just a ruse.

    Comment by Downstate Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 10:37 am

  3. IBM — the company awarded a 10-year, $188 million contract to operate the computer system used to generate millions of parking, red-light camera and speed-camera tickets — makes the final determination of when tickets are issued, not the city.

    Hey we found another use for Watson…..

    Comment by OneMan Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 10:38 am

  4. Typical finance industry method, let someone else manage the business with little oversight and just let the money roll in.

    But at least he has “gravitas”.

    Comment by Daniel Plainview Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 11:16 am

  5. It is incredibly frustrating how a quickly civic institutions embrace a do-nothing policy of contempt after the ticket/fine has been issued to you. The non-conservative latitude with which violations are handed out must be supported with understanding and compassion on part of the institution. If you don’t have the resources to evaluate every citizens honest response to a issued violation then you shouldn’t use a flawed autonomous system to mass-distribute potentially life-altering fines and fees.

    Comment by JIMJAMS Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 12:04 pm

  6. Traffic Cams for speeding and redlight violations should be improved, not discarded. They are good for our community.

    Comment by Baruch Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 12:11 pm

  7. They’re a license to penalize, often unjustly. If the cop was there, would a ticket be issued? Every time you say probably not, the camera says “Absolutely!”

    Electronic Lives (don’t) matter.

    Comment by A guy Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 12:55 pm

  8. Hope this puts to rest the ruse that the cameras are there for safety and not a money grab. Raising cash thru law enforcement is one of the things that make me angriest.

    Comment by The Way I See It Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 2:01 pm

  9. “Raising cash thru law enforcement is one of the things that make me angriest.” Cash and safety are
    not mutually exclusive under the law. Judge Posner found in reviewing such violations.

    Comment by anon. Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 3:11 pm

  10. === Every time you say probably not, the camera says “Absolutely!” ===

    An IBM technician makes the final call. Prudence suggests that close calls should not be grounds for a ticket. In Elk Grove Village, where officers must approve any redlight tickets, only clearcut violations merit a ticket. Consequently, there are few serious arguments at ticket hearings there because the video is so unequivocal.

    Comment by anon Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 3:25 pm

  11. Yep, that’s why there’s few serious arguments. That right there. Yep. Oy.

    Comment by A guy Friday, Jul 15, 16 @ 4:43 pm

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