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* This is a prime example of using the Madigan blame game to distract local reporters from the truth about what actually happened…
Central Illinois state legislators returned to a familiar target early and often while addressing Twin City business leaders on Thursday at Illinois State University.
“(House) Speaker (Michael) Madigan inserted a clause into the budget bill that holds schools hostage,” said State Sen. Chapin Rose, R-Mahomet. “No one in this room would ever say, ‘This is a legitimate negotiating tactic, let’s hold schoolchildren hostage.’ … Those type of tactics from the speaker not only aren’t right, but make it almost impossible to find some sort of consensus.”
Rose joined Senate Minority Leader Bill Brady, State Sen. Jason Barickman and State Rep. Dan Brady, all Bloomington Republicans, in blaming Madigan, a Chicago Democrat, for many of the state’s ills during a forum with the McLean County Chamber of Commerce at the Hancock Stadium Club.
* As the Pantagraph story clearly notes, “No one in this room” included Bill Brady. It just so happens that Sen. Brady sponsored the Republicans’ “Capitol Compromise” budget package. The appropriations bill in that package included this language…
The following amounts, or so much thereof as may be necessary, are appropriated to the Illinois State Board of Education for Evidence-Based Funding, provided for in Section 18-8.15 of the School Code:
Payable from the Education Assistance Fund ………71,349,300
Payable from the Common School Fund ………….3,611,012,300
Payable from the General Revenue Fund ………..1,863,211,200
Payable from the Fund for the Advancement of Education:……….641,000,000
* Now, look at the approp bill that passed both chambers and became law…
The following amounts, or so much thereof as may be necessary, are appropriated to the Illinois State Board of Education for Evidence-Based Funding, provided for in Section 18-8.15 of the School Code:
Payable from the Education Assistance Fund……..243,349,300
Payable from the Common School Fund………….3,611,012,300
Payable from the General Revenue Fund………..2,203,098,300
Payable from the Fund for the Advancement of Education……….619,000,000
Those highlighted “for Evidence-Based Funding” passages are what Rep. Rose was talking about. Billions of dollars can’t be spent on K-12 until the state has an evidenced-based funding law on the books. SB 1, which hasn’t yet been sent to the governor, includes that needed language.
* Not only that, but Sen. Rose himself publicly supported Brady’s bill. If you click here, you’ll see a Sen. Rose press release touting his support for the “Capitol Compromise.”
* But despite its obvious shortcomings, the above Pantagraph story is hugely insightful. Buried way down is this passage…
“No one’s more disappointed than the four of us” about the lack of reforms, said Bill Brady.
He added education funding reform “is a leverage point we have that we hope we can use to get the reforms that were on the table.” The budget requires a new state funding formula for K-12 schools before they receive any more money — the tactic Rose criticized.
So, it appears that Sen. Brady wants to do exactly what Sen. Rose said no one should ever do. According to Brady’s own words, he wants to use the pending crisis of schools not opening because of the current lack of an evidenced-based model as “leverage” to pass the governor’s reforms.
posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 12:34 pm
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So if schools don’t open, that will look good for the “education” governor? What will Rauner run on then: “I am the veto governor”?
Comment by A Jack Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 12:41 pm
If Rauner wants to be the one to hold schools and K-12 students hostage for “reforms” come September, and own that…
“We won’t open schools until… ”
I think some might “let” you wear that jacket… for days and weeks…
The hostage takers are rarely seen as the heroes.
Chance made the case against doing this too.
But… if you must leverage something that already all sides thought there was identical language… have at it I guess.
I wouldn’t, but..,
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 12:42 pm
Neither voted for the budget that passed, so what “leverage” do they have?
Comment by Under Influenced... Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 12:43 pm
==it appears that Sen. Brady wants to do exactly what Sen. Rose said no one should ever do==
Why didn’t the reporter ask Brady about that when he said it?
Comment by Can Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 12:44 pm
Why, it’s almost as though the holding of hostages for union decimation is part of the original plan.
Comment by thunderspirit Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 12:45 pm
Athenians vs. Melians
“The strong will do as they will, and the weak will suffer what they must”
Raunerites vs. K-12
Comment by Promachus Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 12:48 pm
===So, it appears that Sen. Brady wants to do exactly what Sen. Rose said no one should ever do.===
Thanks Rich. You’re reporting and analysis have never been more important and necessary. Politicians have always spun the truth, but we’ve morphed into a world where they now feel it’s OK to outright lie.
Thanks for holding them accountable. More please!
Comment by 47th Ward Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 12:51 pm
Your not you’re. D’oh.
Comment by 47th Ward Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 12:51 pm
Yeah, well, why not try to run that same busted play one more time?
Comment by Arsenal Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 12:52 pm
That is one heaping word salad bowl of historical fiction and cognitive dissonance.
Duplicity or head injuries? You make the call.
Great idea on the “leverage.” It’s worked so well so far.
When schools don’t open over some term limits bill, the people will rise and cheer.
That idea, I’m quite sure, is the result of a head injury.
Comment by wordslinger Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 12:53 pm
Politicians in this day and age misrepresenting what they have supported and what their opponent has done? I’m shocked.
Comment by Norseman Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 12:57 pm
Chapin Rose sentences in public are usually a noun, a verb, and Speaker Madigan.
Comment by OurMagician Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:00 pm
Haven’t we seen this movie already?
Comment by Groundhog Day Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:01 pm
Dear Mrs. Miller of Naperville Illinois. I am sorry that your 6th grader and your high school freshman can not attend their first day of the 2017-18 school year. I truly am sorry that your school system has shut down. Please understand that your children can’t continue their education in Illinois because the general assembly will not give me term limits, or redistricting reform. Additionally, they will not allow me to impose severe bargaining restrictions on your children’s teachers. I know you understand that these things are important to the both of us, and we together must forgo your children’s education until my demands are met.. thank you..Bruce Rauner and Bill Brady
Comment by Not Rich Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:02 pm
Yes, the GOP will try to leverage SB 1 for so-called “reforms.” My advice to the legislative bunch is to cut Rauner out of the process and accept what you can. You can get compromise reforms from Dems for your vote on override (or if you let Rauner know you’re cutting a deal, he’ll sign). Take a “win” to give your schools a win. Stay with Rauner’s extreme position your schools will suffer.
Comment by Norseman Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:05 pm
I would love to see the reporter’s notes. Remember, he is working for a very pro-Republican newspaper. Who knows what was edited out of the final copy, maybe more details?
I miss Kurt Erickson who started with the Pantagraph He asked the questions others either don’t know or don’t want to ask.
Comment by Nearly Normal Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:05 pm
Nearly Normal beat me to it.
This kind of reporting is what happens when you do away with your Capitol bureau but still want state government coverage.
You send someone to show up and simply repeat back what was said.
Sad.
Comment by Michelle Flaherty Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:07 pm
Not Rich nailed it. And of course, it will be the speaker’s fault (according to the governor) if the schools don’t open on time in the fall, but I think that’s going to be an uphill battle for Governor Junk and the gang if he’s the one who vetoes it.
Comment by Anna Hark Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:15 pm
== Neither voted for the budget that passed ==
Chapin is fun to listen to, but he’s been in the GA for more than a dozen years I don’t think he’s taken a tough vote yet, so I struggle to take him seriously.
Did Rose give credit to Madigan when he passed a bill to bail out a nuclear power plant in his district? The only thing Chicago got out of that was higher electrical bills.
Comment by FTR Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:18 pm
I’ve talked to Brady about “his” budget. It was abundantly clear he had no idea what was in it.
They can’t complain about language that was in their bill… the Rauner supported.
Comment by Rahm's Middle FInger Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:23 pm
As I sent realized that instead of “they can’t complain…” it should be “shouldn’t”. Because they will. Probably with millions of dollar of TV ads.
Comment by Rahm's Middle FInger Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:28 pm
===They can’t complain about language that was in their bill… the Rauner supported.===
Sure they can, and they most certain will if no one calls them on it.
Comment by 47th Ward Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:30 pm
Find your line-item veto pen, Gov. To do otherwise, is great peril. An override on the “Chicago bailout” might not have enough support. You have got to take that risk.
Comment by Ducky LaMoore Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:31 pm
Illinois Republicans are not the only one’s calling for pension reform.
Moody’s and the USA Today also understand math.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/07/12/illinois-pension-problems-budgets-bruce-rauner-editorialsnd-debates/459746001/
Why is it that Speaker Madigan on the one hand can say the pensions are unsustainable and on the other hand call any reform devastating to middle class families?
Comment by Lucky Pierre Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:40 pm
Keeping schools from opening next month? Yes, wear that jacket.
I’m sure John and Jane Average will happily take off work to watch Timmy. After all, they’re getting term limits out of the surrender of all vacation time, so it’s totally going to be worth it in their eyes!
Comment by illini97 Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:45 pm
- Lucky Pierre -
===Why is it that Speaker Madigan on the one hand can say the pensions are unsustainable and on the other hand call any reform devastating to middle class families?===
LOL
Explain the Brady Bill language and how it mirrors what was passed, Rauner then vetoed. and then overridden with Republican support.
Then you’ll have your answer.
Otherwise? It’s Rauner holding K-12 schools hostage, and the students too.
You have no game in this. The language mirrors.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:45 pm
Chapin should stick to trying to make Raggady Ann the official state doll.
Comment by anon2 Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:46 pm
And yet again LP comes out of left field to blame Madigan for something completely unrelated to the post. Well done, sir!
Comment by Skeptic Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:48 pm
The legislative intent to fund an evidence based model is only part of the picture. Within all evidence based education bills there is a hold-harmless provision that mandates that each school district receive at least as much money as last year. Thus, the legislative intent is both to hold harmless and then allocate the remaining funds according to the evidence model. Therefore, the exact amount of money will have to be sent to each school district as last year and the legislature and governor can negotiate the final form of the evidence based funding formula. Once that bill becomes law, the remaining appropriated funds can be dispersed according to the formula. In other words, there is no crisis. Schools will open and stay open.
Comment by Northside Dude Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:56 pm
Wow, to infer that school kids be used as pawns or leverage to get “reforms”- shameful. Just when you think the stupidest thing ever has been said, someone (Rose) clears his throat and utters something that reaches an even higher level of dumb. Do something meaningful and help compromise an end to this looming crisis for school Senator, do your job!
Comment by Elliott Ness Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:01 pm
Naperville schools are not dependent upon state funding. They will open on time.
Comment by Last Bull Moose Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:02 pm
===Illinois Republicans are not the only one’s calling for pension reform.===
See John Cullerton. Then see the IL constitution and the limitations it places on exactly what the state can do.
Comment by Ducky LaMoore Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:12 pm
I thought we were making sausage? Of course Brady should leverage this.
Schools shouldn’t open until the property tax freeze is in place, income tax swap is in place, and there is hope for more children getting a decent education from the public schools in Illinois.
At this point, property tax payers are paying buckets of dough for 33% of children being prepared for the next level. That is morally wrong.
Comment by cdog Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:17 pm
Pensions are hardly unrelated to school funding or the post.
That is the entire hold up for CPS funding.
Should we just ignore the Speaker’s intransigence on passing Senator Cullerton’s pension bill and then having the Supreme Court sort it out?
Comment by Lucky Pierre Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:20 pm
===Schools shouldn’t open until the property tax freeze is in place, income tax swap is in place, and there is hope for more children getting a decent education from the public schools in Illinois.===
I’ll look forward to Chance tweeting and ginning up “Do your job” to offset that Raunerite embraced leverage.
If Raunerites want to own that schools aren’t open “until”… statewide… who am I to stop them?
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:22 pm
It appears thar governing in Illinois has been simplified as just deciding who is todays hostage, school children, the elderly, disabled, state employees, vendors,? Just fill in the blank and start scare tactics.
Comment by Generic Drone Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:25 pm
The Speaker passed the Governor’s pension bill as part of the budget, but the Governor chose to ignore it.
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:27 pm
OW, I’d say to the GOP, “Engage!” (think Star Trek)
Many independents and center/right republicans are tired of the blue state mentality of just throwing money at problems.
A little compromise on this now, won’t hurt anyone too badly. Dems keep saying their ready to compromise.
Let’s be hopeful for something good for all.
Comment by cdog Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:33 pm
Good, reform is imperative. The state is an economic laggard
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:33 pm
Generic the primary hostage in Illinois has been it’s private citizens for decades.
Why do think the state is losing people faster than almost anywhere in the nation?
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:35 pm
- Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 1:40 pm: The “unsustainability” would not be there without the debt factor (the past underfunding). And the Tier II system (implemented in 2011) is structured so as to have the employees pay in more than they get out. The problem was fixed going forward, the remaining problem is debt, not the pension program itself.
Comment by titan Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:38 pm
Illinois has 4th-most Fortune 500 corporate headquarters in U.S. We can leverage that.
Comment by Enviro Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:41 pm
“hardly unrelated to school funding or the post.” LP: Where in the post does the word “Pension” appear?
Comment by Skeptic Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:43 pm
Skeptic,
Are you trying to argue that CPS is not asking the state to pick up more of the pension funding from the State?
Rauner and Republican lawmakers say the school funding rewrite is a bailout of Chicago Public Schools because it continues a pattern of giving too much money to the city at the expense of other districts. They say CPS already gets a greater share of state education grant money than other districts, courtesy of a 1995 law. And they note that CPS skipped or skimped on payments into its teacher pension fund for 13 years, greatly contributing to the district’s current financial crisis.
Mayor Rahm Emanuel and district leaders cite a different aspect of the 1995 law, saying the state hasn’t kept its pledge to provide to CPS at least 20 percent of what it spends each year on teacher pensions for the suburbs and downstate. City officials say that amounts to double taxation on Chicagoans: Not only are they paying for CPS pensions through their local property taxes, but they also help pay pension costs for all other districts through the taxes they send to Springfield.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-cps-state-funding-rauner-met-20170712-story.html
CPS failed to contribute to their pension funds for 13 years and now is in crisis.
What reforms do you think they are talking about?
Comment by Lucky Pierre Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:52 pm
What a complete mess.
(1) SB 1 and either House/Senate Republican alternative are based on Picus/Odden (”Evidence Based”) which has produced great results in exactly NO State.
(2) None of the bills do anything to reduce massive overspending in Illinois on school administration (as compared with other States).
(3) None of the bills REQUIRE schools to do anything that will improve academic achievement.
(4) All of the bills eliminate direct and dedicated funding for special education teachers, based on the theory that Illinois identifies too many students for special education. As Andy Manar stated to the Rauner Commission, Illinois schools have “dramatic over-identification” of students for special education.
(5) SB 1 has as an “essential” part something called Response to Intervention (RTI) which has been called a “Billion-Dollar Boondoggle”.
(6) The combination of (4) and (5) were used in Texas to deny special education to thousands of students, until an award-winning series last year in the Houston Chronicle (named “DENIED”) forced change.
Comment by winners and losers Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:55 pm
===Rauner and Republican lawmakers say the school funding rewrite is a bailout of Chicago Public Schools because it continues a pattern of giving too much money to the city at the expense of other districts. They say CPS already gets a greater share of state education grant money than other districts, courtesy of a 1995 law. And they note that CPS skipped or skimped on payments into its teacher pension fund for 13 years, greatly contributing to the district’s current financial crisis===
… and yet, the language Brady wanted, and the language of the vetoes bill is the same on K-12 funding.
What part of the word “same” confuses” you?
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 2:57 pm
Senator Harmon
“It’s not the end of our work by any means, but it provides immediate stability to the state that it sorely needs.”
Only OW thinks there is no more work to be done on pensions and reforms. Even the Speaker has pledged to address these needed reforms now that the budget has passed.
Why don’t you believe him, Senator Harmon and Senator Cullerton?
http://www.oakpark.com/News/Articles/7-11-2017/Harmon-pleased-with-override,-but-’still-work-to-do’/
Comment by Lucky Pierre Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 3:02 pm
- Lucky Pierre -
Because Sen. Harmon and President Cullerton aren’t threatening to keep schools closed.
I believe them.
If Raunerites want to keep schools from opening and ignore the same language doing so… have at it, lol
Sen. Rose wasn’t too keen on that leverage plan.
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 3:07 pm
Instead of complaining about the reporting, email Derek and coy the email to other reported such as Bernie and John and Monique, for instance. Copy their editors. Write a letter to the paper pointing out the language of the two bills and the hypocrisy of Rose and Brady. Maybe nuthin will happen. Then again, maybe something will,
Comment by Anon221 Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 3:07 pm
Or maybe the Democrats could actually address the serious concerns of our business community and work toward a compromise on workers comp in exchange for SB1? I understand that many people on here think that SB1 is a no-brainer and should be signed regardless, but we’re working with governor who fails to see reality. Don’t stoop to his level and ignore the reality of our broken workers comp system. We can be the bigger people. Reforming workers comp will not destroy the middle class, it’ll likely result in more middle class people being hired by companies who don’t decide to leave IL.
Comment by mtwtsn Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 3:08 pm
Enviro, your type of thinking is what will absolutely destroy Illinois.
Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 3:15 pm
One of the hidden benefits of leadership for Brady, is that he will be forced to learn what’s actually in the bills that move through the Senate, before commenting on them.
Comment by walker Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 3:21 pm
I think it would be easy for Brady to explain the language. His bill was introduced with the intent of having an agreed budget so they probably figured they would get to an agreement on the school funding rewrite. Barickman’s plan is “evidence based” as well, yet differs from SB 1. The numbers are definitely different, so I am not sure why everyone is so hung up on the “evidence based” language being the “same” in both approp bills. I think both sides agree that the new funding formula will be an “evidence based” funding formula.
Comment by Jaded Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 4:00 pm
== CPS already gets a greater share of state education grant money than other districts, courtesy of a 1995 law. ==
Lucky, who passed that law?
Comment by Roman Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 4:10 pm
The House and Senate passed that law and it was signed by the Governor.
the bill was proposed by Senator Dan Cronin
Chicago is the largest district and it has the most poor kids so they should have a greater share of the education grant money
Unfortunately CPS uses a large portion of that money not for the kids but to pick up 98% of the pension costs for CTU.
CPS picks up 7% of the 9% of the employee share for pensions. All other city and state workers contribute 9%. Sound fair to you for a district teetering on bankruptcy?
How about before they ask for more money from Springfield and start hurling around the race card, they act in a fiscally responsible manner?
I think that is what the Governor was talking about when he said he agreed with 90% of SB1. Everything except the pension pick up for Chicago.
Comment by Lucky Pierre Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 4:23 pm
===I think that is what the Governor was talking about when he said he agreed with 90% of SB1. Everything except the pension pick up for Chicago.===
lol, and yet 90% isn’t good enough.
Are you even trying today?
Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 4:27 pm
Brady and Rose were there when the bill and its language was chosen.
I really doubt the two of them got together and decided to spin their actions into something so completely different.
Who or what spin factory has the time to put together these talking points along the constraints that they impose to propel their media messaging?
I’m thinking the Illinois Policy Institute is the spin factory that keeps churning out the constant annoying noise with just a shred of fact to make it believable for the uniformed.
Comment by Chicago 20 Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 4:35 pm
Every citizen is hostage to Madigan. Every house and senate member. Every mother, plumber, businessperson, student, grocery store worker and the governor. And especially all Republicans. All are hostage to Madigan. We are all hypnotized and feckless because of his power.
And even when in his infinite wisdom he inserts language supported by other leaders and caucuses, he is bad and we are helpless.
Woe are the Senate Republicans. And especially, woe is Chapin Rose, king of the anti-Madigan, anti-Chicago soundbite.
We are doomed.
Comment by Winnin' Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 4:41 pm
=I am not sure why everyone is so hung up on the “evidence based” language==
Because there is NO evidence over the last 20 years that “evidence based” actually works in any State that has attempted to do it.
Comment by winners and losers Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 4:44 pm
Lucky,
The 1995 Chicago School Amendatory Act was written and passed by the Republican controlled General Assembly and signed by Gov Edgar. Every Chicago-based Dem in the legislature voted against it. Among other things, the law eliminated a property tax levy specifically dedicated to the Chicago teachers pension fund (which is the primary cause of the pension underfunding today;) excused the Chicago Brd of Ed from making future pension payments; promised the state would contribute about $60 million a year to the Chicago pension fund (which was phased out;) gave the mayor total control over the school board; and established the now infamous block grants. The board “pick-up” of the teachers pension contribution was not a creation of the law, it began back in the 1980’s (Chicago is not the only district that does this.)
There are a whole bunch of folks on both sides of the aisle that deserve blame for the current financial mess at CPS, starting with Daley and extending to Pate, Lee Daniels, and Edgar. Subsequent governors and General Assembly members from both parties enabled more pension can kicking.
There’s no denying that Chicago has badly mismanaged it’s school system, just as there is no denying that the state pension funding laws have been grossly unfair to Chicago. It would be nice if both sides could just stipulate those simple facts and move on.
Comment by Roman Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 5:04 pm
Instead of pointing fingers , being frustrated with both sides how about a list of possible solutions? My bet is each of us had a special group we want protected so our solution (s) will reflect that. How is that different from what our legislators/ governor are doing? My possible solution, toss the ball to Northwestern’s Kellogg Business Program and Northern Illinois University’s MBA programs to come up with a balanced state budget, present their suggestions to the media and legislators to think about. Who knows, they may come up with some out of the box solution so we could all live with.
On a second note, term limits, if I were a constituent of the speaker I would be upset with term limits because you took away my right to vote for him but, I could support position limits that only allows a person to hold the speaker position and president of the senate for a maximum of two election cycles. This way , the general population can elect the person of their choice but the chambers are not under the stranglehold they currently are.
Comment by Teach Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 7:23 pm
Where is the elimination of Pro-Ration? Thats what kills school districts that buget properly. Good stewards of the peoples monet get punished year after year by those cuts. Budgeting is always a moving target but many districts have been bled out because of proration. There is the great equalizer and redistribution.
Comment by NorthsideNoMore Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 8:34 pm
-LP-
First, did you do your homework assignment? Reading Madiar “Welching”, IFT, Kanerva, SB-1?
The only valid point in all your arguments is why should the school districts pick up the employee portion of the pension? We’ll, I guess it is one of those items most R’s are passionate about: local control. The elected school boards negotiated contracts to do the pickup.
Are you saying the State should override local control.and prevent said pickup? Are you now against local control after being in favor of local control?
Comment by RNUG Thursday, Jul 13, 17 @ 10:40 pm
It’s like Rauner wants to lose by 20 points next year.
Comment by Chucktownian Friday, Jul 14, 17 @ 11:11 am