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Governor schedules meeting, sabotages the meeting, repeats.
Comment by out of touch Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:27 pm
== Gov says Dems want tax hike ==
Excuse me, Governor Rauner, but your own budget demands a tax hike too.
Comment by thunderspirit Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:30 pm
And there’s still a meeting?
Comment by Mouthy Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:30 pm
Is blaming the other side in negotiations an effective tactic in reaching compromise? Is that how Rauner operated in the private sector?
Comment by anon Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:31 pm
This has to be deliberate sabatoge. Nobody is this politically unaware.
Comment by RNUG Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:32 pm
Rauner does not want a deal, Rauner wants his turnaround agenda.
@RonSandack: I’m frustrated 2, but taking steps towards reforming IL more important than short term budget stalemate.
It’s the Agenda, decimating unions, and really nothing else…
… except close Illinois Higher Ed… Eliminating Social Services…
“Bruce has no social agenda.” - Diana Rauner, President. Ounce of Prevention.
“Hang in there!” - Todd Maisch.
Keep these things in mind as Rauner blames the Dems for Gubernatorial Vetoes only he can do.
Right? Exactly right.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:34 pm
Should anyone really be surprised?
Comment by illini Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:35 pm
Um…so I guess this means the meeting is off?
Comment by ??? Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:35 pm
Was there a horsehead under each Dem’s chair just to reiterate the point?
Rauner is so unbelievable, it’s breathtaking, even 14 months later. Just when you think he can’t be any worse.
Comment by How Ironic Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:35 pm
“Fasten your seatbelts. It’s going to be a bumpy night.”
Comment by Keyrock Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:35 pm
The expected response? No. No compromise, no reform, no alternatives, no surrender.
Comment by No Use For A Name Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:36 pm
This must be a mistake. Weren’t they supposed to wait until about 2:15 to release this?
Comment by HangingOn Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:38 pm
===No. No compromise, no reform, no alternatives, no surrender.===
You keep misquoting Ron Sandack…
@RonSandack: I’m frustrated 2, but taking steps towards reforming IL more important than short term budget stalemate. - Ron Sandack, 9/28/15
You’re welcome, - No Use For A Name -, lol
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:39 pm
The governor fears the doable, his worst nightmare is a bipartisan deal. Madigan should cancel this afternoons meeting so the governor can return to negotiating against himself because clearly the governor isn’t ready.
Comment by AC Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:40 pm
We live in a world where people hear what they want to hear, regardless of the facts. The right only hears that the left wants a “massive tax hike” and hates business owners. The left only hears that the right hates workers and a tax hike will solve all of the problems.
Neither are true and that is what prolongs this mess.
Comment by JS Mill Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:40 pm
All those previous “cracks” just got filled up.
Trust is definitely a foreign word to this guy.
Comment by Dr X Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:41 pm
–Gov Rauner says Dems holding colleges, grants, social services hostage–
I’m pretty sure I was the first here to advance the hostage analogy, and I’m quite certain I meant Gov. Rauner and the Republicans in the General Assembly as the hostage-takers.
(Geez, I wince every time I have to toss the Illinois Republican Party in with Rauner’s scatter-brained schemes. Not the party of my youth).
I’ve since abandoned the hostage analogy. Thanks to Sen. Radogno’s candid interview with Bernie, I’m absolutely certain that “squeezing the beast” for the “necessary shakeout” is the plan, in action.
Seriously, you break contracts with every social service provider in the state for a term limits bill?
You zero out every public university and community college in the state for some marginal workman’s comp changes?
You create record, recession-like deficits for a redistricting bill?
You’d have to be outside your mind to buy that stuff.
Bruce doesn’t have a social agenda.
Are we clear on what that means now?
Comment by wordslinger Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:41 pm
Translation: Clinton will have a long train on her pantsuit this November all over Illinois.
Comment by Beaner Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:41 pm
All that’s left is for him to blame Madigan for the cold start to April.
Comment by Jocko Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:41 pm
Just based on these Tweets, I have to agree with out of touch’s analysis. Is there audio/video of these pressers?
Comment by Anon221 Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:42 pm
And people wonder why the Speaker wants nothing to do with this guy.
Why should the Speaker talk to 1.4% when all 1.4% wants is his failing agenda. There is nothing else to 1.4% except what he wants. He thinks it is his by right of wealth, power and position.
Comment by Huh? Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:43 pm
@JS Mill,
The difference being the Runaground Agenda ™ has no affect on passing a budget, except for the fact that Rauner is holding as a shield/poison pill to getting anything done.
And the tax increase? Yeah, the GOP is going to sign on to that if a budget is passed. There is no other way to get the revenue we need.
Comment by How Ironic Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:43 pm
“We can’t afford to be compassionate if we can’t be competitive.” That’s the Rauner doctrine in a nutshell. And it’s going to come back to haunt him very, very soon. You say you want to do both…how hard is that to figure out? You say Illinois can afford to do both.
Comment by Curious Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:43 pm
Perfidy all day Perfidy all night. That is what you get when you put a venture capitalist into office. He IS NOT A BUSINESSMAN!!!!! The free market demands stability. The free market demands predictability. Rauner the venture capitalist offers destruction and chaos. Rauner is the angel of death.
Comment by Honeybear Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:44 pm
I thought the governor & 4 leaders’ meeting started at 2PM. Was their meeting bumped up?
Comment by Mama Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:45 pm
I’m starting to wonder if the Governor is bi-polar? His moods swings are getting pretty weird. Or is he just the most dishonest narcissist in the state?
Comment by kimocat Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:46 pm
Leader Radogno: says there is resistance to compromise from other party; gov ‘wants to be reasonable’
Okay, no more reading Capitol fax while eating my lunch. I found the above so ludicrous, I just about choked laughing out loud. She has no shame and will just say anything. Let me know when she has five minutes of material put together and where she is appearing.
Comment by Beaner Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:50 pm
“Gov says Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, have made good changes.”
Minnesota has made much better changes. And how did they go about doing that, Governor?
Comment by IllinoisBoi Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:51 pm
“In Rauner’s view, it all comes down to Democrats trying to create crises in #highered, social services and public schools to force tax hike.”
Does the Governor not remember vetoing the budget for FY2016? Does the gov not know his veto caused the crisis?
Comment by Mama Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:53 pm
===“Gov says Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, have made good changes.”===
Raunerbots…
The legislatures of IN, MI, WI… are/were controlled by what party?
Get back to me in that.
Thanks.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:54 pm
The dems just won’t compromise. They won’t budge. They won’t pass my agenda exactly as presented. Why are they so unreasonable. I mean I told them I’d veto all appropriations until they passed my agenda. What don’t they understand? By refusing to pass it they are forcing me to veto those bills. The nerve. /s
Comment by Me too Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:55 pm
A Veto is a tool only wielded by a Governor.
Governors own their choices.
K? K.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:55 pm
Illinois has been in this nosedive for a very long time. The financial bubbles a few years ago only exposed it to a point it could not be covered up. So all of you here want to keep the same guy - Mike Madigan - on a pedestal and keep doing basically the same things? Over and over? Is that correct?
Comment by Beeker Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:59 pm
Who in their right mind pulls a stunt like this right before their meeting with the Dem Leaders to work on a compromise?
Now we know Rauner and the Republicans will not compromise on their ‘Turn Around’ agenda which will not help financially help the state of Illinois or it’s taxpayers!
Comment by Mama Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:01 pm
===… keep doing basically the same things? Over and over? Is that correct?===
No.
Can you read? No.
Can you explain…
@RonSandack: I’m frustrated 2, but taking steps towards reforming IL more important than short term budget stalemate. - Ron Sandack, 9/28/15
No.
I can hear your mouth-breathing out here in Oswego…
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:01 pm
Democrats need to pay for Gov’s Dale Carnegie course. Be money well spent!
Comment by Big Foot Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:03 pm
===we can’t afford to be compassionate if we’re not competitive===
Sorry, can’t afford to stop to pull you out of a burning car. Boss says we gotta stay competitive.
Comment by thechampaignlife Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:04 pm
Hey Beeker. I am as conservative and as Republican as they come. Never pulled a democratic ballot in my life. I have no love for Mike Madigan. However, if you cannot see that this Governor is an absolute and total disaster, then you are beyond help. Only Bruce Rauner could have made Mike Madigan look reasonable. This never ending speechifying by Governor Moneybags is not governing. Not even close. I cannot wait till November, as I will not be casting a vote for a single republican legislator. When Rauner gets blown out in November, we will finally get a budget and back to some semblance of responsible governance.
Comment by Saluki Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:04 pm
It’s fairly obvious that Rauner doesn’t want a budget.
He seems to think he’s getting more mileage — and winning whatever it is he’s running for at the moment — without a budget and with all (misplaced, in his case) the moral outrage.
Comment by Formerly Known as Frenchie M Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:06 pm
Radogno is getting as tiresome as the governor.
Comment by Buzzie Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:08 pm
“Rauner: we can’t afford to be compassionate if we’re not competitive.”
We can never be competitive if we’re not compassionate. “Let’s move to Illinois, where we’ll be paid peanuts and have crummy benefits and healthcare and education,” said no workers ever.
Comment by IllinoisBoi Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:09 pm
Do Democrats really believe Illinois does not need to be turned around? Since 2000 the USA has gained 15 million jobs and Illinois has lost 100,000 jobs. What reforms do the Democrats support? Apparently none
Comment by Lucky Pierre Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:09 pm
‘Minnesota has made much better changes. And how did they go about doing that, Governor?’
“The Twin Cities had 0.8 unemployed people for every job vacancy, while Greater Minnesota’s ratio stood at 1.2 unemployed people for each job vacancy.”
My current job involves recruiting students to technical programs at a community college up here. I twitch every time I read the new unemployment numbers because they lower they go the harder time we have recruiting. It’s a great problem to have.
Comment by ArchPundit Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:10 pm
“Only Bruce Rauner could have made Mike Madigan look reasonable. ”
Rod had his days too.
Comment by ArchPundit Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:11 pm
But…I’m #Winning
Comment by Wensicia Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:14 pm
Saluki, maybe you are conservative and republican. Who really knows. But I doubt any of that is what is really driving you.
Comment by Beeker Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:15 pm
MacBrucie–”Sound and fury signifying nothing”
Comment by D.P.Gumby Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:15 pm
It’s like a bond sale. Just when he needs to tone down the rhetoric he grabs a megaphone and the media to go full on with his shtick.
Comment by Anonymous Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:16 pm
“we can’t afford to be compassionate if we’re not competitive.”
I am trying to figure out why 1.4% would ever say something like this. It is so tone deaf and out of touch with the needs of society. Why is this supposed to be something to be admired and aspired too?
Comment by Huh? Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:17 pm
===But I doubt any of that is what is really driving you.===
Why do you say that? Use your words.
(This will be delicious)
- Saluki -, I hear ya. It’s tough. You’re not alone.
OW
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:18 pm
“Radogno say people didn’t elect Rauner ‘to keep the status quo’”
The old “status quo” kept the universities & colleges open; gave the poor the means to go to college (MAP Grants); provided care for the disabled, and rehab for drug addicts, etc..
Comment by Mama Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:19 pm
This is the plan.
Always was.
– MrJM
Comment by @MisterJayEm Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:20 pm
All Rauner did was kept K-12 schools open.
Comment by Mama Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:20 pm
The no true Scotsman argument eh beeks? The republican party, the real one before people like you took it over, was reasonable. Heck, you’d kick St. Ronnie out if he were a member today. Look at the things he did and ask yourself if a democrat did them, would you be okay with it, and if a republican did them would you call them a RINO? I know the answers to these questions, so I’ll take your’s off the air.
Comment by Me too Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:21 pm
“Gov says Dems want tax hike, but would be ‘massive mistake, we’ve got to fight back’”
So I guess the Governor has enough money to run HIS AGENCIES, and Higher Ed.
that’s it. done. go home folks.
GOP, get ready for November.
Comment by cdog Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:22 pm
Great, more dysfunction. Wonderful.
Comment by Anonymous Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:23 pm
I don’t see any movement until state employee paychecks are halted in july
Comment by Foster brooks Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:23 pm
Does this Governor really care about the people of this State and the future of this state? Apparently not. Does he not realize that governing requires compromise and respect for the democratic process? Since he is not listening to Illinois citizens and to the Democratic leaders and legislators, maybe the Republican leadership needs to sat this man down and explain to him the “art of governing.”
This man is destroying this State economically and in the process Illinois citizens, social services, secondary and higher education are becoming the victims
Comment by JB Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:24 pm
Although I consider myself a fairly liberal Democrat, many of my closest friends are fairly conservative Republicans.
And, among those who are in the know about the realities of what is going on in Illinois now, they are as frustrated at the games being played and the disaster that BVR has inflicted on the structure of our programs and institutions being impacted more and more each day. And I detect no defections from the Republican downstate members of the GA. They all know about that $20 million sledge hammer that is being held over their heads.
Comment by illini Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:24 pm
“The right only hears that the left wants a “massive tax hike” and hates business owners. The left only hears that the right hates workers and a tax hike will solve all of the problems.”
I can’t disagree with this assessment more. I literally hear the former every day by Republican politicians and the right wing media. I’ve literally NEVER heard anybody on the left claim that a tax hike will solve everything. Never. Not once. To the right hating workers, yes that is a pretty consistent drum beat
Comment by Johnny Pyle Driver Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:25 pm
He REALLY is bipolar. Throw him some Lithium and get him stabilized! All he has done is whined about how Madigan won’t schedule a meeting. Finally … agrees to a meeting … boom! Total sabotage! He broadcasts it live at a meeting for everyone to hear. He is a total whack job.
Comment by BBG Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:26 pm
Huh?, that is the crux of the problem in electing those who have only worked in business to high public office. What is needed from business is not the same as what’s needed from government.
Comment by RIJ Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:26 pm
“we can’t afford to be compassionate if we’re not competitive.”
It is comments like this that make me wonder if 1.4% has accepted Warren Buffet challenge the the wealthy to donate the vast majority of their money to charity.
With comments like this, I get the feeling that 1.4% is more along the lines of “he who has the most wins.”
Comment by Huh? Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:33 pm
==”Growth is the budget,” Rauner says.==
What?
Comment by Mama Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:38 pm
‘and keep doing basically the same things? Over and over? Is that correct?’
In the words of Eric Zorn, ‘Where’s the Democratic ‘turnaround agenda’?’
There are some practical reforms on the table that could be part of a grand bargain for revenue, reform and a better state for everyone. Madigan could also propose some improvements or alternative reform ideas if he cared to. Unfortunately, objection and obstruction apparently remain the only two choices on his menu.
Comment by No Use For A Name Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:45 pm
Growth in our economy raises revenues and decreases expenditures for the social services unemployed workers need
Comment by Lucky Pierre Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:47 pm
–”Gov says Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, have made good changes.”
Minnesota has made much better changes. And how did they go about doing that, Governor?–
The governor of Michigan’s own hand-picked task force established that he sat on his tukkus when he knew his people were drinking poisoned water. He should go to prison for criminal neglect…
….The governor of Indiana humiliated his state on the world stage and cost them millions with his despicable gay-bashing-by-government….
…and the governor of Wisconsin is a cross-eyed, delusional dingbat who wasted millions before dropping out before the Iowa caucuses and wants to build a wall on the 5,525-mile Canadian border to keep out…somebody?….
I’ll stick with those Norskies up in Minnesota.
Comment by wordslinger Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:47 pm
Has the 2PM meeting with the Dems been cancelled?
Comment by Mama Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:48 pm
It’s not personal. It’s only business.
Comment by Austin Blvd Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:51 pm
–“we can’t afford to be compassionate if we’re not competitive.”–
Is that for real? Who said that?
Comment by wordslinger Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:52 pm
===In the words of Eric Zorn,…===
“What if Speaker Madigan was governor?”
How about you go in the Dorm Room with Mr. Zorn, lol.
===Unfortunately, objection and obstruction apparently remain the only two choices on his menu.===
You mean Ron Sandack?
@RonSandack: I’m frustrated 2, but taking steps towards reforming IL more important than short term budget stalemate.
How about… You… and Eric Zorn… and the fantasy land where Speaker Madigan is Governor you find out why Ron Sandack thinks people need to suffer?
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:53 pm
“Huh?, that is the crux of the problem in electing those who have only worked in business to high public office. What is needed from business is not the same as what’s needed in government. ”
Saying that Rauner worked in business is an insult to business people. He’s a vulture capitalist. There’s a difference. One creates while the other destroys.
Comment by DHSJim Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 1:58 pm
Rauner intentionally sabotaged the meeting right before the meeting. He kept posturing for the Speaker to come meet with him and then pulled this stunt. Radogno said herself that squeezing the beast might do some good. They are not done squeezing yet. All this means is that there will be no deal in the near future and that this Governor will continue to run up debt at an unprecedented pace. The Democrats should accede on the term limits but add a provision to make it easier to recall the Governor. Put a referendum on the ballot and if 55% vote for the referendum to recall he’s gone. I’m convinced now that there is no end in sight as long as we have this incompetent Governor.
Comment by The Dude Abides Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:03 pm
Wonder how many of those who gave him the standing ovation understand people in human service agencies and who work for the State, buy their products and use their services.
And I bet 90% of the audience believe in smaller govt. but not sure they understand smaller govt. means a smaller pool of customers for them.
Comment by Give Me A Break Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:03 pm
Thanks for answering the question, Governor. No budget until after the November election. Perhaps when an overwhelming number of Democrats are elected as a result of the Republican Party train wreck, you’ll get a message you can understand.
But, I’m not counting on it.
Comment by Aldyth Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:04 pm
Based on the audio from the “bidness” leaders presser, it seems that “bipartisan” means Raunerites and Republicans. It is time for Republicans, especially in the House to decide if $20 million dollars are worth the cost. There was nothing new here, just tired, retreaded campaignin’. Time to GoAround. If Durkin and Radogno don’t want to because their seats and power are more important to them than the People of Illinois, hopefully more moderate Republicans will understand the importance of governance and not playing politics in the “school yard”.
Comment by Anon221 Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:09 pm
At the business leaders speech, Rauner schilled for the ILBEDC and actually was gleeful about the possibility of “Superstars” being able to earn commissions for bringin’ bidnesses to Illinois. “Because you can’t do that in State government!” Legal???? Who cares???? Somebody better!
Comment by Anon221 Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:13 pm
So let me understand this, the correct interpretation to the past year plus in Springfield is that the team that has controlled IL for the better part of a decade, that brought you billions of debt, and billions of unbalanced budgets, and a crumbling state infrastructure, and allowed Chicago to rack up unaffordable debt has no “blood on their Hands” for our current situation. Wow, it’s this kind of denial that led us to our current situation and will keep us here as a state.
Comment by NeverPoliticallyCorrect Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:19 pm
Out of Touch +1
Comment by burbanite Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:20 pm
Rauner’s rules.
No budget = No tax increase = Rauner personally saves $800,000 a year
Comment by Chicago 20 Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:22 pm
===…has no “blood on their Hands” for our current situation.===
Please, do keep up…
The last 14 months?…
@RonSandack: I’m frustrated 2, but taking steps towards reforming IL more important than short term budget stalemate. - Ron Sandack, 9/28/15
Got it? Good.
Sandack hooted it, it’s a choice, it’s worth it, it’s Rauner’s
Hope that helped.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:23 pm
@NeverPoliticallyCorrect
You are way behind. Please catch up.
Comment by Austin Blvd Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:24 pm
“–“we can’t afford to be compassionate if we’re not competitive.”–
Is that for real? Who said that?”
According to Bernie, Rauner said it.
Comment by Nick Name Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:25 pm
==Wow, it’s this kind of denial that led us to our current situation and will keep us here as a state.==
Yes. That’s what everyone is doing. Denying all of that simply because they don’t support the Governor’s “Turnaround Agenda.”
Comment by Demoralized Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:26 pm
Chicago 20- BINGO!
Comment by Anon221 Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:26 pm
Now THERE’S a dichotomy we have to tear down:
You either support every single word of the Turnaround Agenda, or you love the status quo.
I feel like most reasonable people exist somewhere between there. Like, I abhor all the Turnaround Agenda bits that gut collective bargaining. But I have no problem with doing more to reform workers comp, or property taxes, or redistricting. Just don’t crush unions in the process. I also have no problem with a budget that includes new revenues AND cuts.
Comment by Johnny Pyle Driver Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:28 pm
Beeker. Not sure what to make out of your last statement. What is driving me is a desire to see Illinois grow, and see the private sector flourish. What drives me is wanting to see Illinois as a leader in education, and transparency. What drives me is a hope that the future of Illinois will be a stable one where business can not have to deal with the never ending political turmoil. Rauner wants to burn down the house (state) so he can collect the insurance money and start completely over again. Trouble is, I live in that house he is burning down. We all do. Nothing that he is doing is going to help Illinois in the long run because he can’t figure out the game. Cannot figure out how to get what he wants. I am willing bet dollars to donuts that Rauner, and the Republicans get blown out in November, leaving Madigan with an even stronger upper hand. Rauner will leave office, having done lots of damage, but not accomplishing any of the things he wants to get done. Tell me how that is success….
Comment by Saluki Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:30 pm
–“we can’t afford to be compassionate if we’re not competitive.”–
I see now from a previous poster that Gov. Rauner said that.
OK.
At this moment, I can’t address that revealing statement in a civil manner under the rules of the house.
But it is the signature statement of the Rauner vision for our state. Put it on ice. Don’t you dare forget that our governor said that, and that it informs his every action going forward.
I’d also ask everyone to examine the governor’s rather subjective definitions of the words “competitive” and “afford” and the much more concrete definition of the word “compassion,” and apply them in real-world ways to your everyday life.
Personally, I never imagined that someone could conceive that there is a price tag on “compassion.” That’s not how I was raised by my peeps, and I ain’t going to get turned around anytime soon.
See you in church.
Comment by wordslinger Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:31 pm
“maybe the Republican leadership needs to sat this man down and explain to him the “art of governing.”
I recall former governors Edgar and Thompson trying to do this very thing. Rauner said thanks but no thanks. I got this. There’s just no saving people like Rauner from themselves.
Comment by Cubs in '16 Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:32 pm
-wordslinger- @ 2:31
I couldn’t agree more. I can’t believe Rauner said this out loud. It’s so significant and telling that it should go right along side Sandack’s “I’m frustrated too….”
Comment by Cubs in '16 Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:40 pm
=== I can’t believe Rauner said this out loud. It’s so significant and telling that it should go right along side Sandack’s “I’m frustrated too….”===
They are bookends, the continuation of a narrative, Sandack makes sure Rauner owns it, Rauner makers sure everyone is clear, people don’t matter, Agenda matters…
Bookends. Sandack-Rauner.
Ball Game.
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:44 pm
Cubs in ‘16- You are correct, Rauner can’t be saved. He is his own savior. People need to start realizing this. His type of “religion” is narrow-minded and self-serving. At the business luncheon he called himself a “volunteer”. He doesn’t see himself as a governor. He bought that position. That kind of lifeview is so short-sighted.
Comment by Anon221 Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:45 pm
There is a price tag on everything the government does. Illinois is losing jobs and employers relative the rest of the Country since 2000 and a lot of tax revenue went with those jobs. Illinois cannot afford to raise taxes too high to the point we are not competitive and we lose further population and revenue. Take the Governor at his word Illiinois needs to be more competitive to be more compassionate to the less fortunate. It is possible to raise tax rates and actually get less revenue. A quick survey of states that passed a millionaire surcharge will see those laws were not huge successes
Comment by Lucky Pierre Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:47 pm
It’s a real bait and switch. He has no intention of being “compassionate” — whatever he means by that — ever.
Comment by Nick Name Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:48 pm
If you measure your compassion by how much money you can give, you’re doing it wrong.
Comment by Casual observer Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:50 pm
No one on Shark Tank would do a deal with this joker.
Comment by Beaner Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:51 pm
Willy - “Ball Game.” Exactly.
Comment by illini Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:53 pm
Herbert Hoover is governor of Illinois. 2 years and 9 months to go.
Comment by Jorge Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 2:55 pm
===Illiinois needs to be more competitive to be more compassionate to the less fortunate.===
“Catholic Charities? Bruce Rauner. I know we had contracts and all but until bidness in Illinois gets far more profitable for companies and people make less and can’t collectively bargain… I’m sorry… People need to suffer… On purpose… until I get what I want.” - Fake Bruce Rauner, heartless.
Frankly, that sickens my heart - Lucky Pierre - but it speaks volumes tonyiyr own character and compassion.
Patheitc.
See YOU in church.
Oswego Willy
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 3:03 pm
Did anyone show up to the meeting?
Comment by burbanite Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 3:04 pm
–There is a price tag on everything the government does. Illinois is losing jobs and employers relative the rest of the Country since 2000 and a lot of tax revenue went with those jobs. Illinois cannot afford to raise taxes too high to the point we are not competitive and we lose further population and revenue. Take the Governor at his word Illiinois needs to be more competitive to be more compassionate to the less fortunate. It is possible to raise tax rates and actually get less revenue. A quick survey of states that passed a millionaire surcharge will see those laws were not huge successes–
LP, when you’re done yanking your crank, perhaps you could supplement your talking-point word salad with some tasty, filling, data?
Comment by wordslinger Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 3:06 pm
It’s just so bizarre that when folks talk about how bad the current Rauner led disaster is, the Raunerite assumption is that that same person is OK with the financial disaster of the past several decades. I’m not OK with it, I suspect very few people are. Then again, I can tell the difference between financial mismanagement over several decades, and an financial and human disaster without precedent. We need a governor capable of governing, that involves at a minimum knowing the difference between bad and considerably worse. It’s time for Rauner to stop thinking that captaining this neglected and mismanaged ship of state in the direction of several icebergs is somehow an improvement.
Comment by AC Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 3:17 pm
Word and OW- “Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!” You guys caught that old time religion today! All us sinners need to go to church! lol!
Comment by Honeybear Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 3:21 pm
- Honeybear -
Jim Edgar never would frame public and governmental compassion by the numbers on a private sector ledger.
That’s the ball game for me, and why Rauner is not a Republican, but a Raunerite.
(Tips cap, humbly, to - illini -)
Comment by Oswego Willy Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 3:35 pm
Honeybear - love the “old time religion” analogy.
I think they already had the religion before today!!
Comment by illini Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 3:36 pm
“Take the Governor at his word . . .” Let’s start there, why don’t we?
Comment by Skeptic Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 3:59 pm
“Gov. Rauner compares governing to “hand to hand combat.”
That’s what happens when you declare war on Illinois.
Comment by Wensicia Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 4:04 pm
Unbelievable.
Radogno and durkin make somewhat reasonable noises, everyone goes ooohhh. A leaders meeting is scheduled, everyone goes aaahhh. Then rauner just cant help himself and has to spout off w the same old crap about reforms,
competitiveness, dems want a massive tax increase, etc.
Words–compromise.
Actions–starve the beast, winning.
Comment by Langhorne Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 4:12 pm
Eric Zorn must feel pretty secure or doesn’t give a hoot. Wow! #Failed Governor Rauner……
Comment by Markus Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 4:35 pm
Just read that, Zorn gives Rauner an Epic F.
Pretty much sums up what we have all been saying here.
Comment by cdog Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 4:47 pm
No Use For A Name - Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 12:36 pm:
The expected response? No. No compromise, no reform, no alternatives, no surrender.
There aren’t enough democratic votes for Rauner’s anti-union agenda.
Comment by Anonymous Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 4:49 pm
Zorn’s response:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/zorn/ct-rauner-failing-madigan-cullerton-illinois-budget-perspec-zorn-0413-jm-20160412-column.html
Comment by Wensicia Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 4:51 pm
How long is it going to take for Illinois residents to realized that our governor is a joke. He did not share the details of his during the election campaign because he knew that he would have never become the governor of this state with such a lame, unrealistic, agenda. I guess people have learned their lesson: don’t vote for anyone who is unwilling to lay out a clear agenda the outlines specifically how they are going to tackle challenges facing our states. WHAT A WASTE OF VOTES!
Comment by Ree Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 5:30 pm
Mr./Ms. No use for a Name:
Perhaps you were snozin’ but Madigan and the Dems
passed another work comp bill, DCEO P3 and took 15 votes on the tax freeze scheme….that looks like and is compromise.
Comment by Annonin' Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 5:51 pm
The often prophetic words of Bob Dylan, as applied to Gov. Rauner.
You’ve got a lotta nerve to say you are my friend
When I was down you just stood there grinnin’
You’ve got a lotta nerve to say you got a helping hand to lend
You just want to be on the side that’s winnin’
You say I let you down, ya know its not like that
If you’re so hurt, why then don’t you show it?
You say you’ve lost your faith, but that’s not where its at
You have no faith to lose, and ya know it
I know the reason, that you talked behind my back
I used to be among the crowd you’re in with
Do you take me for such a fool, to think I’d make contact
With the one who tries to hide what he don’t know to begin with?
You see me on the street, you always act surprised
You say “how are you?”, “good luck”, but ya don’t mean it
When you know as well as me, you’d rather see me paralyzed
Why don’t you just come out once and scream it
No, I do not feel that good when I see the heartbreaks you embrace
If I was a master thief perhaps I’d rob them
And tho I know you’re dissatisfied with your position and your place
Don’t you understand, its not my problem?
I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
And just for that one moment I could be you
Yes, I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
You’d know what a drag it is to see you
Comment by AlfondoGonz Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 7:08 pm
Dylan is the poet of my generation. Thanks for the post.
Comment by illini Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 7:42 pm
A hard rain is already falling. And it’s gonna get worse.
Comment by Keyrock Tuesday, Apr 12, 16 @ 8:53 pm