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* This comment by “Illannoyed” is spot on…
The Rauner folks might be getting some of what they need. Both the Sun-Times and Tribune have headlines and stories that can be used in campaign ads. I understand that a campaign taking advantage of an existing policy isn’t improper in and of itself, but good luck explaining that to an electorate accustomed to political corruption. The nuance is likely to be completely lost.
S/he’s right. Sun-Times…
posted by Rich Miller
Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:06 pm
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A little somethin’ somethin’.
Not the sledgehammer they wanted.
Comment by walker Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:15 pm
It works, it’s “solid”…you got an Ad…
You just didn’t get a Home Run
Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:16 pm
Let’s see how well the Rauner campaign can translate this into a message that will resonate with voters. To date they haven’t always take advantage of what they’ve had to work with.
Comment by Sir Reel Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:18 pm
So, let me get this straight. Quinn threw Lavin under the bus. And then it is confirmed in hearings. Yep, Rauner has an ad. We’ll see what tomorrow brings.
Comment by Ducky LaMoore Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:18 pm
Not sure this will be enough to slow down the Quinn Election Express train.
Comment by phocion Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:23 pm
Rationalizing….more. Headline writers do what they do. At the very least, they’re seeing something a little more serious than our commenting corp is.
Comment by A guy... Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:35 pm
Oh man is that a great picture if you know the guy at the podium.
Comment by Arthur Andersen Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:47 pm
You know, I wonder if an enterprising Democrat on the panel could ask this question of the Republicans on the panel…. “So did any of you coordinate your questioning with the Republican Party of Illinois, Rauner for Governor campaign, or any other partisan entity before you questioned these witnesses?”…. Because, if they did (and you know they did), aren’t they being just a tad bit hypocritical?
Comment by Try-4-Truth Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:50 pm
Good point Rich. However, haven’t you also made the point that IL voters accept/expect low-levels of corruption in their government? Unless they see outright theft (Blago), IL voters tend to shrug this stuff off, correct? I didn’t hear any smoking guns connecting the Gov to anything major. Will there be a parade of people taking the 5th tomorrow? That may change things. I don’t know if today moved the needle a lot for Rauner.
Comment by Anonymous Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:50 pm
Anonymous 3:50 is me. Google Chrome gets me again!
Comment by Red Ranger Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:56 pm
Headline writers do what they do . . .
. . . to get people to click on the story.
Comment by Bill White Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:57 pm
Try-4-Truth @ 3:50pm–No, if it happened, and I would be surprised if it didn’t, where is the hypocrisy in that? How is coordinating questions anything like misuse of public funds?
Comment by Harry Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:58 pm
I don’t know. At this point, have we heard anything that’s going to flip undecideds?
Comment by wordslinger Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:03 pm
wordslinger - more likely swing newspaper editorials and maybe even get Sun Times off PQ bandwagon. Voters independents and undecided not sure you probably correct
Comment by leprechaun Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:09 pm
Rauner gets tomorrow’s newspaper headlines, I guess. Seems like the papers both decided they were going with the hearings no matter what came out of them. Almost trying to be “fair and balanced” given the coverage they’ve had of Baron V. Carhartt’s trials and tribulations.
Comment by chi Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:10 pm
I’m not sure the Rauner campaign is looking for advice from a blog that beats them up everyday while trying to explain away the NRI scandal.
Comment by Anonymous Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:12 pm
===I’m not sure the Rauner campaign is looking for advice ===
Maybe, but they sure do look. Constantly.
Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:14 pm
the bad picture provides the link to the Blago past….Lavin. and that is part of the problem.
Comment by Amalia Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:15 pm
AA — no kidding.
Comment by Soccermom Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:15 pm
Shucks, the feed just went haywire while Brady was asking a very pertinent question. Bummer.
Comment by A guy... Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:16 pm
- Harry - Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 3:58 pm:
Try-4-Truth @ 3:50pm–No, if it happened, and I would be surprised if it didn’t, where is the hypocrisy in that? How is coordinating questions anything like misuse of public funds?
STOP saying things like “a misuse of public funds”. IF and I us capital IF a “misuse” occurred, there are not facts in evidence that ANY government officials “misused” them. What is being alleged is that a campaign coordinated the grants for maximum political impact. That is what we are being told. So, to answer your question, if these questions are being coordinated for maximum political impact, they are being hypocritical. Geese Louise, stop claiming things that you think are true, but you have no evidence to support it.
Comment by Try-4-Truth Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:20 pm
–I’m not sure the Rauner campaign is looking for advice from a blog that beats them up everyday while trying to explain away the NRI scandal.–
They should look somewhere. Because after spending millions over the course of a year, they haven’t put away a governor with a 36% approval rating in a Republican year.
Comment by wordslinger Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:22 pm
Re: Rauner’s people looking constantly…
Maybe a QOTD… or three.
What are the lessons learned from the Rauner campaign?
What are the lessons learned from the Quinn campaign?
What advice would you give the Libertarian Party? The Green Party? Any other alternative party?
Comment by Carl Nyberg Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:27 pm
It’s a good headline and probably a Sunday editorial. Nothing more nothing less.
Rauner will use it but truthfully the DCFS ad is a better heart string puller. The time it will take to explain this cluster can’t be done in a 30 second piece.
He’s already hit PQ for being incompetent, all this does is add to that argument and the voters according to polling don’t care.
So far though not illegal. Incompetent maybe but not illegal. Unless the Feds come out with something else before the election?
We shall see once the first ad hits how powerful they can make this.
Comment by DuPage Bard Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:36 pm
Spot on…and that’s why Quinn needs to undermine the public’s trust of anything coming out of Rauner’s campaign. He’s doing a very good job so far.
Comment by Jeepster Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:41 pm
Useful, but not fatal. We’ll see what tomorrow brings. Toni Irving promises to be more explosive as does Lavin. Anyone know if Malcolm Weems is testifying?
Comment by Chicago Cynic Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:41 pm
Voters don’t care about this. The dead horse has been thoroughly beaten.
Comment by anon Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:43 pm
[This comment has been deleted because the commenter made an allegation of illegal conduct that turned out to be not true. According to the Senate Republicans and the governor’s campaign, the emails from Jack Lavin were from his personal account, and not his government account.]
Comment by Chicago Publius Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:44 pm
=== via their government email accounts===
The email addresses have been redacted, so I don’t know where you got that.
However, if those were all sent to government email addresses, that would most definitely be a problem for Lavin if he responded via his government account. You can’t help who sends you e-mails, but you can help how you respond. I think there was at least one instance where Lavin forwarded an NRI email (not sure who from) to his personal account. That email showed up on the FOIA, which is why the LAC started looking at his personal email account.
Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:53 pm
===I’m not sure the Rauner campaign is looking for advice from a blog that beats them up everyday while trying to explain away the NRI scandal.===
This blog is cheaper, and frankly, I would listen to the Crew that Rich Miller has here to counsel me, versus what the “cheese-wiz kids” Rauner has, looking at that work product.
Comment by Oswego Willy Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:57 pm
I get a head ache when we start talking about using different phones and different email accounts in the belief that we’re fighting corruption.
I mean, seriously, who believes that? Obviously, an incumbent running for re-election and his crew are going to have a little bit of interest in the race.
If they’re not stealing state computers and office furniture for their campaign headquarters, who cares?
Comment by wordslinger Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 4:58 pm
===via their government email accounts===
For what it’s worth, the governor’s campaign says these emails were from Lavin’s personal account.
Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:01 pm
…And the Senate GOP
Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:07 pm
if you send a personal email re a campaign on government time, what does that mean?
Comment by Amalia Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:11 pm
Amalia, as far as I could see, he received one on government time to his personal account. Unless I’m missing something, I didn’t see where he sent one on state time.
Comment by Rich Miller Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:12 pm
Does not appear these are government emails.
Another swing miss for Brady 2010, jumpijn jason and mitt too bad…not
Comment by circularfiringsquad Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:13 pm
==hearings on the $54.5 million anti-violence grant program that is now under federal investigation==
Ironically, $54.5 million is about what Bruce Rauner reported on his tax returns in 2012. At least he is playing politics with his own dough.
Comment by Samurai Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:17 pm
thanks Rich.
Comment by Amalia Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:18 pm
Spending public money to get elected! I`m shocked!!!!!
Comment by Rollo Tomasi Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:23 pm
Geez, somewhere Paul Powell, Orville Hodge and Len Small are laughing themselves silly over talk of emails on government time and corruption.
Comment by wordslinger Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 5:28 pm
Len Small was thoroughly corrupt, but he was acquitted.
Comment by Under Further Review Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 7:55 pm
Dear God! I hope this is more than about which phone or e-mail account Lavin used for one message.
This is typical of how the “goo goos” are so often wasting everybody’s time with their anti-corruption “fixes.”
Why is Illinois awash in anti-corruption rules, (I can’t imagine any state could have any more than we already do), and yet seems to be still dancing to the old tunes?
Comment by walker Wednesday, Oct 8, 14 @ 8:31 pm
Wordslinger - my thoughts exactly!
Comment by low level Thursday, Oct 9, 14 @ 7:22 am
I think that everything published was very logical.
However, think on this, suppose you were to write a killer title?
I mean, I don’t wish to tell you how to run your website, however
suppose you added a title that grabbed a person’s attention? I mean Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar »
A very important thing to remember is a little plain. You
should glance at Yahoo’s home page and note how they
create news titles to grab people to open the links.
You might add a video or a pic or two to get readers excited about everything’ve got to say.
In my opinion, it would make your posts a little livelier.
Comment by seo filtering service Tuesday, Oct 14, 14 @ 6:54 am