Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar

Pritzker campaign accuses Gov. Rauner of “brazen lying”

Posted in:

Illinois

* From yesterday’s appearance by Gov. Bruce Rauner on WJPF Radio…

I put out a balanced budget proposal, they overrode, uh, ignored it, passed an unbalanced budget, I vetoed it, they overrode me.

* Pritzker campaign…

Bruce Rauner can’t stop lying about the fact that he never presented a balanced budget. On WJPF yesterday, Rauner once again claimed his budget was balanced, but Politifact debunked that claim in March, rating it ‘pants on fire’ and saying the claim “doesn’t come close to adding up.”

That’s not the only lie Rauner keeps repeating. Rauner was caught lying about his grandparents being immigrants on September 5 and was caught lying again on October 24 and November 13 despite another Politifact ‘pants on fire’ rating.

“For three years, Bruce Rauner failed to complete his basic responsibilities to govern this state and now he’s set on pretending none of that ever happened,” said Pritzker campaign spokeswoman Jordan Abudayyeh. “No amount of brazen lying will hide the truth: Bruce Rauner is a failed governor who never produced a balanced budget and did irrevocable damage to this state.”

posted by Rich Miller
Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:39 am

Comments

Why doesn’t JB Pritzker accuse Senator Cullerton and Speaker Madigan of “brazen lying” for their claim the budget they passed with the 32 percent permanent income tax was balanced when it has at least a 1.5 billion deficit?

Comment by Lucky Pierre Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:43 am
–1.5 billion deficit–

Rauner claimed there was a deficit. So, consider the source.

Comment by King Louis XVI Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:45 am
Lucky - I really hope you are getting paid for the amount of time you put into defending Rauner/changing the topic for Rauner on here.

Comment by Montrose Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:46 am
Lucky—-

Is Madigan or Cullerton running for Governor? No? Ok then.

Comment by Baloneymous Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:47 am
Lucky Pierre concurs.
What about Rauner constantly lying?

Comment by Chicago 20 Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:47 am
- Lucky Pierre -

Then how did Rauner overspend has he did… the budget is still $2.5 billion short in covering costs?

Considering Rauner proposed no cuts, be it agency heads or budget honchos… how did that spending happen?

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:49 am
I hope West Point Ives adds this to her stump speech on Rauner.

Hold this dude responsible for his deceiving practices and mayhem.

Comment by cdog Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:56 am
Rauner lies and gets caught all of the time; Madigan and Cullerton just “politic” with debatable money estimates. World of difference…

Comment by downstate commissioner Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:57 am
Earth to Pritzker- Illinois has not had a balanced budget for 40 years

Comment by Sue Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:59 am
Rauners lies began 4 years ago when he first claimed to be conservative and not the progressive that he always has been. And he hasnt stopped yet.

And Pierre, just because others lie does not mean you should also. If Cullerton and Madigan jump off of a bridge should Rauner do the same?

Comment by SOIL M Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:09 pm
Earth to Sue. The Governor said his was balanced. It wasn’t.

Comment by Demoralized Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:10 pm
Hey Lucky. Why don’t you try to stay on target here instead of your usual juvenile “but,but,but” arguments. The Governor lied. Period. But you can’t even acknowledge an obvious lie

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:12 pm
That was me above

Comment by Demoralized Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:12 pm
Demoralized. Your accusations of juvenile arguments is funny. Thanks for the good laugh.

Comment by cdog Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:16 pm
It’s a 32% increase, not a 32% tax.

Big difference.

Comment by Ajjacksson Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:24 pm
== was balanced when it has at least a 1.5 billion deficit? ==

Hard to balance a budget when there is $2.8B in unauthorized / undisclosed expenditures by an out of control Governor.

Comment by RNUG Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:34 pm
Selective outrage from Democrats like Susana Mendoza and JB Prtitzker whose only solutions involve raising taxes on middle class families

Comment by Lucky Pierre Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:50 pm
- “whose only solutions involve raising taxes on middle class families”

So does that mean you support a progressive income tax and raising the corporate tax rate in Illinois?

Comment by Chicago 20 Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 12:56 pm
yeah, he does that brazen lying thing. Ask around.

Sue, your post is false. Charlie Wheeler presented the actual facts yesterday, as he has done before.

You should read it sometime.

Comment by wordslingeris wordslinges Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:10 pm
I support eliminating the State corporate income tax and instituting a progressive personal income tax. Along with public employee benefit protection being eliminated.

Comment by Ron Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:15 pm
- Sue - Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 11:59 am:

Earth to Pritzker- Illinois has not had a balanced budget for 40 years

So true.

Comment by Ron Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:16 pm
Word- do if the budget has been balanced over the last several decades- why are the pension funds 120 billion below what’s required to satisfy the beneficiary obligation

Comment by Sue Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:26 pm
Deflection is the tactic when the accusation is indefensible.

Comment by Steve Polite Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:33 pm
Sue, that’s why this is all so sad. The state hasn’t had a real budget in decades, yet all the sudden it’s Rauner’s fault.

Comment by Ron Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:37 pm
==yet all the sudden it’s Rauner’s fault.==

The problems aren’t all his fault. But, it has been partly his fault while he’s been in office. The victim enablers can’t seem to bring themselves to say that though.

Comment by Demoralized Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:44 pm
==Selective outrage==

Umm, isn’t that what you do? Selective outrage at Democrats with no acknowledgement of the Governor’s culpability in anything?

Direct question. Try to give a direct answer. Was the Governor’s budget balanced? Yes or no. And try to answer without your usual “whataboutism.”

Comment by Demoralized Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:46 pm
Sue

While I get your point about the pension liability and those payments have been shorted in most years, you don’t have to have a zero liability at the end of each year for the budget to be considered balanced. You do have to pay the required contribution though, which they haven’t.

Comment by Demoralized Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:49 pm
Demoralized- Illinois for the 40 years it had the 3 percent tax rate had spending as if the rate was 4 to 5 percent and the deficit was cushioned by underpaying the pensions. It went on so long there is very little likelihood it can be brought to the 90 percent the statute requires without either a huge tax increase or allowing other spending needs to go unmet

Comment by Sue Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 1:58 pm
I was agreeing with you Sue. I was only noting that the liability doesn’t need to be zero at the end of each year to have a balanced budget.

Comment by Demoralized Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 2:01 pm
The accusation: Rauner lied about presenting a balanced budget.
The deflection: We haven’t had a balanced budget for decades.

The deflection is not a valid justification for the accusation.

Comment by Steve Polite Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 2:05 pm
- Sue and - Ron,

Are you guys the same person or married? Y’all always say the same thing using slightly different words.

Comment by Chicago Cynic Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 2:40 pm
I can agree that Rauner lied, but Pritzker doesn’t stand on moral high ground when it comes to telling the truth. Pot meet kettle.

Comment by Ahoy! Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 2:41 pm
==whose only solutions involve raising taxes on middle class families==

Unlike good ol’ Bruce Rauner, who supports Donald Trump’s plan to raise taxes on middle class families, but that’s not his only solution. He also wants to cut their pay.

Comment by Arsenal Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 2:54 pm
This isn’t hard to understand. Yes, the state has problems that predate the current Governor. That was true during Pat Quinn’s administration, too. And, like Pat Quinn, Rauner has been unable to fix the problems, or even stop them from getting worse. And, well, we threw Pat Quinn out because he couldn’t fix our problems, even though they weren’t his fault. No reason to hold Rauner to a different standard.

Comment by Arsenal Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 3:07 pm
How about we throw out the Speaker and the rest of the Democrats who won’t reform Illinois as they are the reason the problems aren’t fixed?

We are supposed to believe JB Pritzker will fix Illinois even though he is the only Democrat running for Governor not distance himself from Speaker Madigan?

Comment by Lucky Pierre Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 6:34 pm
===How about we throw out the Speaker and the rest of the Democrats who won’t reform Illinois as they are the reason the problems aren’t fixed?===

National Review has Bruce Rauner as THE worst Republican Governor in America.

How can Dems work with the worst Republican Governor…

:)

===We are supposed to believe JB Pritzker will fix Illinois even though he is the only Democrat running for Governor not distance himself from Speaker Madigan?===

Maybe any governor can work with the Speaker, except Bruce Rauner THE worst Republican governor in America.

No Republican governor is worse… than Bruce Rauner.

And here you are worried about Pritzker…

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 6:41 pm
Who has the worst record for Speaker of the House for a state in terms of the decline of the finances of the state during their time in office?

Did the Speaker have a good record of working with Quinn or Blagoevich?

Rewrite history on that one

Comment by Lucky Pierre Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 6:49 pm
Oh boy, Rauner’s last loyal defender is at it again. As an alternative to once again proving to everyone here that you don’t possess the mental faculties to come up with a better defense for your boss than “everything is Madigan’s fault”, why don’t you answer Demoralized’s question instead?

Comment by Lester Holt’s Mustache Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 6:57 pm
===Rewrite history on that one===

Live in the now, National Review is fresh, fresh, fresh.

You told me - Lucky Pierre -, quoting Mike Ditka… only cowards and losers live in the past.

I can point that out where you commented that too, lol

Embrace it.

Rauner IS the worst Republican governor.

That’s fun.

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 6:57 pm
Okay that’s true JB, but what makes you different?

Comment by Max Bayer Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 8:34 pm
Live in reality OW someone named John Miller thins Bruce Rauner is the worst Republican Governor in America

John Miller should stick to golf commentary

He doesn’t speak for National Review any more than Eric adorn does for the Trib

Want to bet National Review does not endorse a Democrat for Governor of Illinois?

Comment by Anonymous Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 8:48 pm
Oh “ - Anonymous - “, lol

Had the headline been.

“Bruce Rauner, best Republican governor”, you’d feel different(?)

Can’t *not* see that cover.

National Review - Rauner IS the worst Republican governor

Welp… lol

Comment by Oswego Willy Thursday, Nov 30, 17 @ 8:53 pm

Add a comment

Sorry, comments are closed at this time.

Last 10 posts:

Reader comments closed for the weekend (11-22)
Isabel’s afternoon roundup (11-22)
The Waukegan City Clerk was railroaded (11-22)
Whatever happened, the city has a $40 million budget hole it didn't disclose until now (11-22)
Manar gives state agencies budget guidance: Cut, cut, cut (11-22)
Roundup: Ex-Chicago Ald. Danny Solis testifies in Madigan corruption trial (11-22)
Open thread (11-22)
Isabel’s morning briefing (11-22)
SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password) (11-22)
Live coverage (11-22)