SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Simple solutions are never simple

Tuesday, Jan 29, 2013

* From an Illinois Issues column on abolishing the lame duck session, which allows simple majority votes to pass a bill during a few days ever other January

Granted, the pressure on the Illinois General Assembly and the U.S. Congress to deal with major issues is immense. Political gridlock has made passage of controversial legislation nearly impossible without resorting to chicanery. And bond rating houses and influential interest groups such as the Civic Committee of the Commercial Club of Chicago and others are pushing loudly for solutions to the state’s fiscal mess or to controversial social issues.

But it’s a shame — better yet, a sham — that legislative leaders, the governor and the special interests believe that the only way to make those major changes is through votes by legislators who don’t have to answer to the voters who elected them.

Yes, the 2011 lame duck session went further than ever before. But the recent 2013 lame duck session was a gigantic bust. They usually are. So, I’m not sure they need to change the rules because one out of many lame duck sessions went further than some think they should have.

* Also, we have primaries in March. Any legislator who loses a March primary is a lame duck and therefore “don’t have to answer to the voters who elected them.” Any legislator who announced his or her retirement before the March primary was also a lame duck. And several legislators retired last year and were replaced by temporary seat-holders. But rarely does anyone talk about those folks.

In other words, eliminating lame ducks from the equation would be impossible.

- Posted by Rich Miller        


16 Comments
  1. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 11:10 am:

    A solution in search of a problem.


  2. - langhorne - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 11:20 am:

    the problem isnt the existence of a “lame duck” session, since there are many versions of lame ducks. focusing on the calendar is misleading. focus on the duck. the problem is the lack of competitiveness throughout the process.


  3. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 11:28 am:

    This isn’t a real issue. It’s a decoy.


  4. - Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 11:38 am:

    Lame ducks will always exist, but those last few days of session sure see a greater concentration of action on controversial issues than other days.

    The temptation to put off controversial issues until those closing days, or even deliberately wait to try pushing weak legislation through during that time, simply seems too much for our dear legislators to resist.

    The regular session prior to November typically forces legislators to work towards a broader consenus rather than adopt a hasty band-aid out of desperation, laziness, weakness or a lack of ideas.

    Exhibit A: The pension panel proposal that emerged on January 8th. It was such a great idea that the Governor… kept it secret until the very last minute?

    It was a desperation heave that, under different circumstances, may have passed essentially to make it appear legislators were doing “something” to deal with a pressing issue.


  5. - CircularFiringSquad - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 11:46 am:

    Wow that was a waste of about 6.5 min. of our lives we can never get back. Although the idea of PQ Reformanator looking to solve as his problems in the lame duck was kinda fun.
    Under the theory that a pol never facing a voter again is disqualified from action …..Obama is done now too.
    Go find some real problems to report on.


  6. - Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 11:53 am:

    === the problem is the lack of competitiveness throughout the process ===

    Well said, Langhorne.


  7. - Demoralized - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 12:25 pm:

    ==votes by legislators who don’t have to answer to the voters who elected them.==

    Ummm, these people were elected and they are entitled to be legislators until their term expires. I’m not sure why people think that there is some sort of cut off prior to the end of their term. This is nothing but whining by somebody who has no clue how the legislative process works.


  8. - Levois - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 1:28 pm:

    Apparently quick fixes such as this are rarely that “quick”.


  9. - soccermom - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 1:31 pm:

    You say “a gigantic bust” like it’s a bad thing.


  10. - McLean Farmboy - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 1:46 pm:

    I don’t think it’s a lame duck problem as such, I think it is more about the window that opens those few days in January where you get simple majorities for immediate implementation that fosters a sense that shenanigans are going on.


  11. - Anon III - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 2:02 pm:

    You are suggesting that the sure prospect of not having to face the voters again will increase the productivity of those members of the legislative body. Then an old suggestion to every ten years make all sitting legislators ineligible for reelection – making everyone a lame duck at the same time once every ten years – should dramatically improve the productivity of the Legislature.


  12. - Rich Miller - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 2:10 pm:

    ===You are suggesting that the sure prospect of not having to face the voters again will increase the productivity of those members of the legislative body.===

    If that was aimed at me, I was doing no such thing.


  13. - Anon III - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 3:39 pm:

    Rhetorical “you.”

    “It’s a shame … that legislative leaders, the governor and the special interests believe that … .”


  14. - Mugwump - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 3:44 pm:

    I don’t understand what “lack of competitiveness throughout the process” means? What does it have to do with outgoing or defeated members voting on important issues with presumably nothing to lose politically? If they have nothing to lose, they can vote their conscience. Or is the problem that they need a job so they will vote against their conscience to please political bosses that can get them a job? What does competitiveness have to do with it?


  15. - steve schnorf - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 7:43 pm:

    .., and rarely solutions


  16. - Yellow Dog Democrat - Tuesday, Jan 29, 13 @ 11:01 pm:

    === the problem is the lack of competitiveness throughout the process. ===

    The problem is that barely half the voters know what the top source of revenue or top spending item is in the state budget, and they probably know more about the Kardashian family than how state government works.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* Gonna be a light day here
* No details except for a new hole
* Frerichs to Simon: No thanks
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

          
        * Samsung Galaxy E7 sees specs leaked by benchmark
        * Lightning-fast 4G connectivity: India, say hello to Nokia Lumia 638
        * Samsung to update Galaxy Note 4, Note Edge directly to Android 5.0.1
        * Baldurs Gate II Enhanced Edition makes its way to Android
        * Forensic software gets around Apple's iCloud security features
        * BLU Studio 7.0 may be more tablet than phone, but it sure is affordable
        * Bit Dungeon II: Game to save your soul from eternal damnation

        * European iTunes App Store To See Changes In Price Jan 1st 2015
        * 500px App Updated With Built-In Camera And Editing Tools
        * The Interview Movie Release Cancelled Due To Threats
        * Hearthstone Gets Installed On Android Smartphones (Unofficially)
        * Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and Galaxy Note Edge Will Be Updated To Android 5.0.1 Directly
        * UK carriers agree to boost coverage, avoiding national roaming
        * LG WebOS TV 2.0 Coming At CES

        * AL Central looking like one powerhouse division
        * Samardzija, Lester are right fits in Windy City
        * Samardzija, Lester are right fits in Windy City
        * White Sox offseason momentum transfers to fans
        * Samardzija, Lester are right fits in Windy City
        * White Sox unveil Samardzija, Robertson, Melky
        * White Sox sign Brad Penny to minor league deal

        ...............


        Main Menu
        Home
        Illinois
        YouTube
        Pundit rankings
        Obama
        Subscriber Content
        Durbin
        Burris
        Blagojevich Trial
        Advertising
        Updated Posts
        Polls

        Archives
        December 2014
        November 2014
        October 2014
        September 2014
        August 2014
        July 2014
        June 2014
        May 2014
        April 2014
        March 2014
        February 2014
        January 2014
        December 2013
        November 2013
        October 2013
        September 2013
        August 2013
        July 2013
        June 2013
        May 2013
        April 2013
        March 2013
        February 2013
        January 2013
        December 2012
        November 2012
        October 2012
        September 2012
        August 2012
        July 2012
        June 2012
        May 2012
        April 2012
        March 2012
        February 2012
        January 2012
        December 2011
        November 2011
        October 2011
        September 2011
        August 2011
        July 2011
        June 2011
        May 2011
        April 2011
        March 2011
        February 2011
        January 2011
        December 2010
        November 2010
        October 2010
        September 2010
        August 2010
        July 2010
        June 2010
        May 2010
        April 2010
        March 2010
        February 2010
        January 2010
        December 2009
        November 2009
        October 2009
        September 2009
        August 2009
        July 2009
        June 2009
        May 2009
        April 2009
        March 2009
        February 2009
        January 2009
        December 2008
        November 2008
        October 2008
        September 2008
        August 2008
        July 2008
        June 2008
        May 2008
        April 2008
        March 2008
        February 2008
        January 2008
        December 2007
        November 2007
        October 2007
        September 2007
        August 2007
        July 2007
        June 2007
        May 2007
        April 2007
        March 2007
        February 2007
        January 2007
        December 2006
        November 2006
        October 2006
        September 2006
        August 2006
        July 2006
        June 2006
        May 2006
        April 2006
        March 2006
        February 2006
        January 2006
        December 2005
        April 2005
        March 2005
        February 2005
        January 2005
        December 2004
        November 2004
        October 2004

        Blog*Spot Archives
        November 2005
        October 2005
        September 2005
        August 2005
        July 2005
        June 2005
        May 2005

        Syndication

        RSS Feed 2.0
        Comments RSS 2.0
        WordPress

        Loading


        * Some Rauner Plans Still A Mystery..
        * BGA Cautiously Optimistic..
        * Springfield Community Leaders Hope Rauner Bring.....


        * APNewsBreak: Judge rejects NCAA concussions deal
        * Video game developer to open studio in New Orleans
        * U. of Illinois to sexual assault group starts work
        * Durbin: US, Cuba diplomatic ties 'long overdue'
        * Official: Convicted killer slain in Illinois prison
        * Topinka remembered as honest, tough at memorial
        * Senate approves NATO-trial prosecutor for US bench
        * New trial linked to disgraced judge gets underway
        * Illinois employers reminded of income-tax rollback
        * Chicago 'petcoke' handler says it'll enclose piles

        * Chicago couple convicted of stealing state grants
        * Topinka remembered as tough, honest leader at memorial service
        * Illinois employers reminded of income-tax rollback
        * Memorial service for Topinka begins in suburban Chicago
        * Police use vacant Jacksonville site to train for worst-case scenarios
        * State-grant fraud case in hands of federal jury
        * Gov.-elect Rauner says some agency directors may stay
        * Attorney blames couple's bookkeeper in state grant fraud case
        * Attorney general: Quinn, Rauner each should name comptrollers, then voters choose in 2016
        * Prosecutor: Chicago couple bought cars, paid son’s mortgage with grant money

        * Chicago couple convicted of stealing state grants
        * Durbin: US, Cuba diplomatic ties 'long overdue'
        * Chicago couple's $3.4 million fraud case now in jury's hands
        * Treasuries drop as Yellen says Fed is on pace to raise rates
        * Illinois employers: Don't forget income-tax rollback


        * Emanuel halts private parking on city lots near United Center
        * Durbin, Kirk split on Obama’s shift on Cuba policy
        * Unions may win  HOLLOW victory with pension suit
        * time for new course in Cuba
        * CPS move may have cost more than estimated
        * Unions may win Pyrrhic victory with pension suit
        * Chicago couple found guilty of stealing millions in state grants
        * Chicago Cubans cautious yet hopeful about historic policy shift
        * After 50 years, time for a new course in Cuba
        * Obama pardons Naperville man, Brian Sledz


        * 1 killed, 12 others wounded in shootings, including man, 18, hurt near park
        * Man found in South Side home was shot to death
        * Man arrested in 2 downtown bank robberies
        * 2 found dead in South Side home
        * Father of 3 shot to death on way home from work
        * Jury finds Chicago couple guilty in grant scam case with ties to Obama friend Whitaker
        * CPS school for special-needs kids needs full-time nurse, alderman says
        * Proposed NCAA concussion settlement denied by federal judge
        * Oak Park school district, teachers reach tentative deal
        * Chicago police captain returns to work 2 months after being shot


        * Illinois Republican: Cuba Agreement "Good First Step"
        * Obama: US re-establishing relations with Cuba
        * Obama re-establishing US relations with Cuba
        * Sangamon Auditorium: Beware Second Party Ticket Brokers
        * Real-estate developer in hot area sees bright future — and displacement
        * Worries rise in Russia as ruble falls
        * Rauner Named Nation's Most Influential Pension Figure
        * Recent incidents cast doubt on Hammond police accountability, critics say
        * Report details big problems at Illinois prison for women; state says it's safe
        * Chicago 'petcoke' handler says it'll enclose piles


        * Bernard Schoenburg: Schmidt considers challenging Sgro for park board president
        * Brian Sauder: Faithful decisions for the holidays
        * Eugene Robinson: The price of being hacked
        * George Will: A Texas-sized license plate dispute
        * Quote of the day: Thursday, Dec. 18, 2014
        * Chicago couple convicted of stealing state grants
        * Topinka remembered as tough, honest leader at memorial service
        * Illinois employers reminded of income-tax rollback
        * Quote of the day: Wednesday, Dec. 17, 2014
        * Police use vacant Jacksonville site to train for worst-case scenarios


        * Official: Convicted killer slain in Illinois prison
        * Police Beat
        * Special delivery
        * Central Illinois man convicted in double murder
        * All is calm
        * Looking Back (Dec. 18)
        * Charles Lane
        * Jo-Ann Meyer
        * Freddie Madison
        * Michael Ball


        * Larkin presses on, dumps Batavia
        * WW South coach Todd remembered as 'a great guy'
        * Addison Trail makes it 2 for 2 in tournament crowns
        * Girls bowling scoreboard: Wednesday's results
        * Girls gymnastics scoreboard: Wednesday's results

        * Congressman Schock on Inland Waterway Proj...
        * Congressman Schock touts legislation that ...
        * Rauner: 'I look forward to working very cl...
        * Rauner in D.C., backs state term limits, n...
        * US Republican congressman to work for bipa...
        * US Rep. Gregg Harper (R-MS) to Serve as Vi...
        * Durbin 'overjoyed' Gross is home; Roskam q...
        * Climate deniers need the boot - Idaho Moun...
        * It's business as usual for election-tested...
        * Caterpillar, farm group welcome Cuba polic...

        * Galesburg veterans facility named in honor......
        * Reaction to release of Alan Gross, future ......
        * Durbin: Clean water law a tribute to Paul ......
        * Gross release: How it happened...

        * Galesburg VA clinic renamed after Lane Evans...
        * Why is he so upset? Because of the secret ......
        * Senate Confirms Vivek Murthy As Surgeon Ge......

        * Baseball ‘kids’ don’t live in Chicago? Why did complaints take so long?
        * Business School?
        * For Our Fallen Vigil In Chicago
        * Demands For Reparations Increase For Those Tortured Under CPD's Jon Burge
        * Memorial For Chicago Police Torture Survivors
        * Chicagoans Hold Vigil For Victims Of Violence And Police Brutality
        * How does one get to become neighborhood of the year?
        * A Thought For The Day...
        * Chicago Group Wants Quinn To Veto Eavesdropping Measure
        * Chicago Mayoral, 24th Ward Candidates Court West Side Voters At Local Forum


        * Illinois Observes National Impaired Driving Prevention Month - December designated to educate communities about the numerous risks associated with driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs
        * The Illinois Office Of The State Fire Marshal Promotes Fire Safety During The Holiday Season - Christmas Trees and Decorations Could Pose Risks of Fires
        * Honoring Illinois Comptroller Judy Baar Topinka
        * Honoring Illinois Comptroller Judy Baar Topinka - United States and Illinois flags at half-staff immediately until Sunset, Thursday, December 11, 2014.
        * Governor Quinn Statement on the Passing of Comptroller Judy Baar Topinka




            Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller