LIVE session coverage...
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
CapitolFax.com
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
Oopsie

Tuesday, Jun 17, 2014

* Speaker Madigan’s non-binding referendum on whether income over a million dollars a year should be hit with an income tax surcharge has a grammar problem

(D)espite a series of debates on the idea, no one apparently caught the improper use of the word “their” in the text of the proposed ballot question.

The measure asks, “Should the Illinois Constitution be amended to require that each school district receive additional revenue, based on their number of students, from an additional 3% tax on income greater than one million dollars?”

Proper grammar calls for the word “its” instead of “their” because “each school district” is singular.

A spokesman for House Speaker Michael Madigan, D-Chicago, who sponsored the proposal, said he was unaware of any effort underway to fix the flaw before it goes on the ballot.

Heh.

My problem with the question, though, is that it doesn’t specify what sort of income should be taxed. Gross? Adjusted gross? Net? Personal? Corporate?

- Posted by Rich Miller        


23 Comments
  1. - WhoKnew - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 9:53 am:

    All of the above!

    Problem solved!!!


  2. - Fan - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 9:54 am:

    Considering it is class warfare kindling, and the targeted voters, does the wording really matter?


  3. - wondering downstate - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 9:56 am:

    Rich, minor details do not mean anything in Illinois. It is advisory question with no enforcement. It just takes up ballot space.


  4. - OneMan - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 9:57 am:

    Well the original wording of

    “Hey should we raise taxes on someone else” would not have passed constitutional muster…


  5. - Jay Dee - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:01 am:

    It could be the intent not to be accurate of type of income taxed. By being more specific, it would confine legislators to that type of taxation in order to still be able to use the question as political cover.


  6. - wordslinger - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:04 am:

    I find it hard to believe stuff like this drives turnout. I guess it’s a matter of covering all bases.


  7. - rolling meadows - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:09 am:

    sad to have to do this type of thing


  8. - Anonymous - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:09 am:

    They could just type “prairie chicken” 20 times without any verb and it mean the same thing.


  9. - Amalia - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:16 am:

    get to the important thing, who was responsible for writing the language, and where are they/aren’t they now?


  10. - Blah - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:20 am:

    The constitution doesn’t specify the type of income tax either. Illinois conforms with the federal method of taxation, which is based on net income. You don’t have to specify what you’re referring to when talking about an income tax.


  11. - dave - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:20 am:

    **I find it hard to believe stuff like this drives turnout. I guess it’s a matter of covering all bases.**

    It doesn’t drive turnout on its own. It only drives turnout if there is a real field operation (with money behind it) to do so. There are a lot of people that will likely be more motivated to vote to raise the min wage, or to tax millionaires, than they will be to show up to vote for Pat Quinn. But it will take a coordinated effort to move the necessary message to get those folks to the polls.


  12. - Sarge - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:22 am:

    Ninety percent of the general public are going to read that and think the tax will be on the school districts’ income. Very awkwardly worded.


  13. - walker - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:24 am:

    It provides a subtle message in the polling place, right on the ballot itself.

    Puts any discomfort with Rauner’s wealth top-of-mind while voting.

    This race could swing on a few thousand.


  14. - OneMan - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:29 am:

    Well the other thing is, aren’t these things normally last on the ballot?


  15. - Steve - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:40 am:

    Rich’s point is well taken. This isn’t a small issue. For you sports fans out there: this could make Chicago sports teams less competitive in signing talent depending on what is considered income.


  16. - Grammerpolize - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:43 am:

    The singular form of “they” or “them” or “their” is typical in sentences because the English language has no singular personal non-gender specific pronoun. The use of the word as a singular hasn’t fully been accepted, but it is rather common place in the American English language. Using it in this complex sentence makes some sense because it is used to force the reader to tie together school districts and number of students. It may not be the best grammatical usage, but it does make sense in this context.


  17. - Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 10:59 am:

    Details always matter.

    Except when they don’t matter at all, as is apparently the case here.

    It’s enough to drive one mad if you think about it too much.


  18. - VanillaMan - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 11:16 am:

    Holy crap!
    How amateur!
    Who is this Madigan guy and how long has he been playing politics?


  19. - Federalist - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 11:34 am:

    Darn it! You bea tme to it!

    - OneMan - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 9:57 am:

    Well the original wording of

    “Hey should we raise taxes on someone else” would not have passed constitutional muster…


  20. - ash - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 11:44 am:

    He rushes things through - things get missed. A grammatical error is minor compared to some of the practical errors that have routinely been shoved on the state.


  21. - Keyser Soze - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 12:27 pm:

    How does one spell deplorable?


  22. - Pelon - Tuesday, Jun 17, 14 @ 4:12 pm:

    Shouldn’t “receive” also be “receives”?


  23. - hosting - Wednesday, Jun 18, 14 @ 5:12 am:

    After exploring a number of the articles on your blog, I truly like your way of writing
    a blog. I book-marked it to my bookmark website list and will be checking
    back soon. Take a look at my website as well and let me know what you think.


Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.


* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - EXCLUSIVE: Paul Green's Chicago election analysis
* *** UPDATED x1 - AFL-CIO calls bill "Trojan Horse" *** Rauner cranks it up another notch
* Priorities, please
* The Senate Dems fully join the fight
* Rauner asks agencies for strike plans, impacts
* Caption contest!
* Question of the day
* Illinois switches marketing gears
* December's quotable
* Pot, meet kettle
* Sign of the times?
* Exelon backs off closure threats for now
* Credit Unions – Cooperative in structure, valued in service
* Having it both ways
* No surprise, Trib is fully on board
* *** LIVE *** Session coverage
* Rauner again demanding Senate side with him over Madigan
* SUBSCRIBERS ONLY - Today's edition of Capitol Fax (use all CAPS in password)
* Good morning!
* Yesterday's blog posts

Support CapitolFax.com
Visit our advertisers...

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............

...............


Search This Blog...

Search the 98th General Assembly By Bill Number
(example: HB0001)

Search the 98th General Assembly By Keyword

          
        * New details arrive on next-gen YotaPhone hardware
        * More details emerge on the rumored Lumia flagships
        * Google signature font Roboto now an open source
        * Google brings iOS app suggestions to search results, sort of
        * Asus Z00EDB smartphone gets TENAA certification in China
        * 13 must-have Windows Phone apps for console and computer gamers
        * Apple Watch Shown Charging Through 6-Pin Diagnostic Port in New Video

        * Jawbone Sues Fitbit Ahead of Rival’s IPO
        * The Fruit Alton Brown Recommends for Grilling
        * We Want to Build Oculus for Kids, CEO Brendan Iribe Says
        * Oculus Will Finally Talk About Controllers at E3, CEO Teases
        * Oculus CEO Brendan Iribe Says Coming Decades Will Define Virtual Reality
        * New Motorola Model Could Sport “Unbreakable” Display
        * LG G Pad X 8.3 Launches On Verizon May 28th

        * White Sox 5, Blue Jays 3 (10 innings): Wacky win
        * White Sox slip past Blue Jays in 10 innings
        * MLB.TV unveils new Web-based media player
        * White Sox get a refresher course in lineup construction
        * White Sox fall late on walk-off home run
        * White Sox fall late on walk-off home run
        * Robertson bemoans pitch that led to blown save

        ...............


        Main Menu
        Home
        Illinois
        YouTube
        Pundit rankings
        Obama
        Subscriber Content
        Durbin
        Burris
        Blagojevich Trial
        Advertising
        Updated Posts
        Polls

        Archives
        May 2015
        April 2015
        March 2015
        February 2015
        January 2015
        December 2014
        November 2014
        October 2014
        September 2014
        August 2014
        July 2014
        June 2014
        May 2014
        April 2014
        March 2014
        February 2014
        January 2014
        December 2013
        November 2013
        October 2013
        September 2013
        August 2013
        July 2013
        June 2013
        May 2013
        April 2013
        March 2013
        February 2013
        January 2013
        December 2012
        November 2012
        October 2012
        September 2012
        August 2012
        July 2012
        June 2012
        May 2012
        April 2012
        March 2012
        February 2012
        January 2012
        December 2011
        November 2011
        October 2011
        September 2011
        August 2011
        July 2011
        June 2011
        May 2011
        April 2011
        March 2011
        February 2011
        January 2011
        December 2010
        November 2010
        October 2010
        September 2010
        August 2010
        July 2010
        June 2010
        May 2010
        April 2010
        March 2010
        February 2010
        January 2010
        December 2009
        November 2009
        October 2009
        September 2009
        August 2009
        July 2009
        June 2009
        May 2009
        April 2009
        March 2009
        February 2009
        January 2009
        December 2008
        November 2008
        October 2008
        September 2008
        August 2008
        July 2008
        June 2008
        May 2008
        April 2008
        March 2008
        February 2008
        January 2008
        December 2007
        November 2007
        October 2007
        September 2007
        August 2007
        July 2007
        June 2007
        May 2007
        April 2007
        March 2007
        February 2007
        January 2007
        December 2006
        November 2006
        October 2006
        September 2006
        August 2006
        July 2006
        June 2006
        May 2006
        April 2006
        March 2006
        February 2006
        January 2006
        December 2005
        April 2005
        March 2005
        February 2005
        January 2005
        December 2004
        November 2004
        October 2004

        Blog*Spot Archives
        November 2005
        October 2005
        September 2005
        August 2005
        July 2005
        June 2005
        May 2005

        Syndication

        RSS Feed 2.0
        Comments RSS 2.0
        WordPress

        Loading


        * Our View: Who will right Illinois' fiscal ship?..
        * Democrats tweak plan to separate Lincoln museum..
        * Why is Rauner dissing the Chicagoland Chamber o.....
        * No surprise, Trib is fully on board..
        * Illinois Democrats Seek To Tax Their Way Out Of.....
        * House Democrats Respond To Budget Criticism..
        * Democrats Put Up Budget Cuts for Desired Defeat..
        * Illinois Bill Penalizes for Leaving Pets in Ext.....
        * The other showdown in Springfield..
        * Updated: Illinois Senate rejects Rauner's prior.....


        * Illinois school funding would increase in Democratic budget
        * Democrats tweak plan to separate Lincoln museum
        * Man acquitted of cruelty for smoking pot with chameleon
        * Medical examiner says food critic drowned during seizure
        * Illinois House passes measure to battle heroin abuse
        * Democrats present deep budget cuts, watch easy defeat
        * Bloomington man to be released from sex offender program
        * Changes made to Rauner's hiring-reform legislation
        * Alderman's ex-staffer who took $7,500 bribe sentenced
        * County officials seek rezoning of Fairdale for rebuilding

        * New version of Lincoln presidential museum bill surfaces
        * Illinois Senate rejects Rauner's priorities, advances budget
        * Heroin abuse bill passes House
        * Changes made to Gov. Rauner's hiring-reform legislation
        * Illinois Senate panel rejects Rauner's workers compensation proposal
        * Legislature takes up Gov. Rauner's proposed reforms
        * Democrats start passing parts of state budget; Republicans say it's phony
        * Democrats start passing parts of budget
        * Democrats show priorities as they advance 2016 budget plan
        * Bill expanding in-car blood-alcohol monitoring heads to governor

        * Top 0.01% of households gain as income concentration rises
        * Expect more cost cuts at Tribune Publishing papers
        * Michigan's Snyder clashes with fellow Republicans on union pay
        * Robert Coleman, unsuccessful AG candidate and successful lawyer, dies at 70
        * McDonald's, other FIFA sponsors may look at ties after raid


          * Judge delays edict on moving Slender Man stabbing case
          * Man's death at Aragon unrelated to building code violations, city says
          * Waukegan man pleads guilty to first-degree murder in 2014 shooting
          * Man killed on Northwest Side identified
          * Offensive photo that cost cop his job made public
          * Three injured in Gary attacks Tuesday
          * Rand Paul in Chicago: Crime 'not a racial thing, it is a spiritual problem'
          * Illinois House approves heroin treatment measure
          * Ex-aide to Ald. Brookins gets 15 months in prison for bribery
          * Lawsuit accuses Notre Dame professor of sexual assault


          * Avian flu outbreak takes poultry producers into uncharted territory
          * Grand Jury Indicts 6 Baltimore Officers In Freddie Gray's Death
          * Illinois moves to downgrade pot possession to a fine
          * FIFA officials arrested on charges of bribery and corruption
          * For Bears chairman, plenty to second guess in McDonald case
          * Lawyer: Suburban Chicago man to plead guilty in terror case
          * South Siders lobby for neighborhood promises in writing as Obama library takes shape
          * South Siders lobby for promises in writing as Obama library takes shape
          * Democrats introduce proposed $36.3 billion budget for 2016
          * Chicago Bears' Ray McDonald arrested in domestic violence case


          * New version of Lincoln presidential museum bill surfaces
          * Illinois Senate rejects Rauner's priorities, advances budget
          * Heroin abuse bill passes House
          * Changes made to Gov. Rauner's hiring-reform legislation
          * Democrats start passing parts of state budget; Republicans say it's phony
          * Michael Gerson: Religious conservatives' shifting role
          * Dalitso Sulamoyo: LIHEAP fund raid would put poor lives at risk
          * Bill expanding in-car blood-alcohol monitoring heads to governor
          * East St. Louis casino group to buy racetrack pending Illinois legislature's approval of slots
          * Rauner names new Illinois National Guard adjutant general


          * Vietnam vet approved for Illinois veterans assistant director post
          * Kentucky man killed in Johnson County crash
          * Updated: Illinois Senate rejects Rauner's priorities, advances budget
          * Two chancellor finalists to meet with SIU trustees
          * Color the Quads race is Saturday
          * Two men with rifle face felony charges
          * First hearing takes place on Angelo Hightower's position
          * SWAT member kills New Jersey man holding infant son hostage
          * Street closures listing
          * Rauner's hiring overhaul stalls


          * Boomers fall to CornBelters in extra innings
          * Images: White Sox over Blue Jays, 5-3
          * Missouri lawmakers file lawsuit over Rams stadium
          * Ex-LAPD officer wanted in killing was lying low in Mexico
          * Ex-Clemson basketball coach Bill Foster dies Wednesday

          * Combined Insurance Hosts First Military Hi...
          * FIFA's commercial partners urged to make t...
          * Bustos has problems with fast-track legisl...
          * Davis: Freedom Act restores liberties
          * Democrats hope for Hillary Clinton coattails
          * Democrats hope for Hillary Clinton coattails
          * Layoffs Looming For Granite City Steelworkers
          * Business and Government Leaders Discuss Ec...
          * Cheri Bustos Hosts Economic Summit to Grow...
          * Politics: Clinton, Secret Service go way back

          * Sen. Kirk Tours ADM in Peoria, Talks Impor......
          * Senators Durbin and Klubuchar lead push to......
          * How Sen. Grassley saved our family...

          * As Patriot Act's Chances Dim, Lawmakers Re......
          * Chicago Urban League loses CEO to U.S. Sen......
          * Republicans look to limit funds for ex-Pre......
          * Andrea Zopp makes Senate run official...

          * Report Outlines 'Lapses in Care' At IDOC Facilities
          * Obama's Immigration Orders Remain On Hold After Appeals Court Ruling
          * Report Details 'Lavish Perks' Enjoyed By Illinois Public College, University Executives
          * Republican Rick Santorum Enters 2016 Presidential Race
          * Labor Market Still Tough For Today's Young Grads, But Their Job Prospects Are Brighter
          * Chicago's Taxi Cab Task Force Unveils Safety Recommendations
          * Report Reveals Need For Child Welfare Reform In IL
          * Chicago Board Of Ed Postpones Vote On Nobel Charter School
          * Illinois Democrats Offer Up 2016 Budget Plan
          * EPI Wage Trend Chart


          * State Announces Business Resource Event Coming to Aurora - ‘Make a Connection’ networking and resource program promotes economic growth of small and diverse businesses
          * Gulf War Veteran Reports for Duty as IDVA Women Vets Coordinator, Vet Business Champion
          * Illinois EPA Pollution Prevention Interns begin Twelve Week Program at Illinois Facilities - Students find cost-effective approaches for reducing environmental impacts
          * Vietnam Veteran Confirmed as IDVA Assistant Director
          * The Illinois Department of Public Health Urges Illinoisans to Take Precautions Against West Nile Virus - Illinois Department of Public Health offers tips for avoiding mosquito bites




              Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller