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This is what you’d call a “tell”
Friday, Sep 19, 2014 - Posted by Rich Miller * The Tribune editorial page has often been called the “Winnetka Talking To Wilmette” section of the newspaper. Check out today’s editorial about how the Art Institute was just rated the top museum in the world by TripAdvisor…
Yep, I don’t see those folks pushing a minimum wage hike any time soon. * The full TripAdvisor list is here, by the way. Also, the Abraham Lincoln Presidential Library and Museum was rated 19th best in the US of A.
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- OneMan - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:14 pm:
Also what WTTW stands for
“Winnetka Talking To Wilmette”
- Dirty Red - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:20 pm:
Meanwhile, on the Fourth Floor of Trib Tower…
http://www.familyguyfiles.com/epimages/1ACX08-Peter-Peter-Caviar-Eater.avi_001026067.jpg
- goose/gander - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:22 pm:
that should be a qotd, what else would thewttw ed board ike toask their readers. e.g. have you spent mror time in your G4 or first class on united?
or how about, have you spent mor time sipping chateu rothschild or a goose island
- Under Further Review - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:24 pm:
@OneMan:
That is what we always called WTTW where so many of the talking heads pontificating about urban affairs and Chicago politics were all living safe and secure lives in New Trier Township.
- VanillaMan - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:26 pm:
Yep, I don’t see those folks pushing a minimum wage hike any time soon.
I don’t agree. The wealthiest people in the world are Democrats and support it. The largest political donors are Democrats and support it. The biggest most expensive campaigns right now are Democrats, and they support it. As of this week, Democrats have spent $25,000,000 more that Republicans on the Midterms. All this money is coming from people who have it, and support raising the minimum wage in order to get an edge on these elections they are pouring their riches into.
As to spending time in Illinois museums, these are fantastic places for fund raisers and a lot of these wealthy people do spend time in them. While they may not be looking at mummies or at a Van Gogh, they are doing more than their fair share in them.
When I am in NYC or Paris, I am often seeing the amazing and fantastic museums, but I am not doing any fund raising there. I do that locally.
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:28 pm:
This is why they call us “The Windy City.”
There are two competing visions of Chicago.
The working class City of Big Shoulders and the one that traded barbs with NYC over who should host the Columbian Exposition.
When Chicago is at its best, it is the greatest city certainly in North America.
The rest of the time, we’re the home of the Cubs.
And they might have a small point: I grew up right across the River but have never been up the St. Louis Arch.
But no, not Paris or NYC. Let us pretend for one brief shining moment that we all someday will.
Okay, back to work.
- Sir Reel - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:31 pm:
Once again the Tribune doesn’t let reality get in the way of ideology. The Art Institute is one reason Chicago is a world class city. Consider other Midwestern cities … no comparison.
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:33 pm:
To your point, Sir Reel, as much as the Tribune might try to drag Illinois down:
Dallas or Houston will never bee world class cities. No one would even put them on a long list.
- MrJM - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:34 pm:
“The wealthiest people in the world are Democrats and support it.”
Six of the ten richest people in the country have just two last names: Walton (Wal-mart) and Koch.
Those people are not and have never been Democrats. Those people actively oppose a higher minimum wage.
– MrJM
- A guy... - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:37 pm:
Do tell who the other 4 are. Don’t leave us hanging.
- siriusly - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:38 pm:
Where does the Balzekas Museum of Lithuanian Culture rank on that list?
- wordslinger - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:40 pm:
If you’re on the Tribbie edit board and claim to have spent more time at museums in New York or Paris than the Art Institute just down the street, I have just one question:
Which museum has the best fries? Because you’re really not into the art.
- ZC - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:44 pm:
VanillaMan,
No research I’m aware of supports that contention that “the wealthiest people in the world are Democrats.”
There is precious little research to be sure, because we don’t have great data sets on the wealthiest people. Here I am going to argue that an exit poll that lumps together everyone earning over 200K is not getting close to capturing the “really rich.” The best survey I’m aware of is Page Bartels and Seawright (2013), which has the added utility here that it was conducted exclusively in IL around Chicagoland. In their laboriously constructed survey of a sampling of Chicagoland’s ultra wealthy, they found a rough partisan breakdown of 58% Republican, 27% Democrat. And as you move from merely wealthy (say 5 million) to ultra wealthy (40 million) their data suggests you get less friendly to govt regulation, Social Security and income taxation.
The Democratic liberal angels are definitely out there. But those anecdotal exceptions shouldn’t blur that the conventional wisdom seems supported : the ultra rich are on net a Republican and libertarian leaning bunch.
- Anon. - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:47 pm:
Oh, get real. I haven’t set foot in the Louvre in decades. IM Pei’s addition ruined the whole experience for me.
- Rich Miller - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:50 pm:
Anon, that was great. Everybody else, let’s get back to having a little Friday fun with the high and mighty Tribune.
- Larry the Cable Guy - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:55 pm:
Lol Rich. Almost lost my White Castles.
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:56 pm:
While Chicago has great art, I am excited that Mother Tribune has embraced the new designation of the best for Chicago when it comes to art…
…but have you seen the bathrooms fixtures, so last year’s Architectural Digest.
- Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 2:57 pm:
How does the Burpee Museum of Natural History do on the list?
- Wensicia - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 3:02 pm:
Well, what do you expect from the tenants of the Ivory Tower?
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 3:04 pm:
Does St. Louis’ “Bowling Hall of Fame” count as a museum?
@FakeStateHouseChick Move over Art Institute and check out these
- Gooner - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 3:06 pm:
I was trying to piece together an appropriate response to the Trib’s editorial, but a dear friend just wandered in and I had to stop to regale him with memories of Florence. You know, I do a lot of regaling. It is just who I am.
We then went on to discuss how charter schools and lower corporate taxes will solve all of our problems.
So, let me get back to this when I can find a moment.
- Bogey Golfer - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 3:09 pm:
“Now, let’s ask a potentially embarrassing question:” Who’s been to the Packer Hall of Fame?
- Linus - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 3:10 pm:
I doubt the Tribsters meant to call theirs a “potentially embarrassing question” in the way that it actually IS a potentially embarrassing question.
I never have to page all the way to the Trib’s funny papers for my daily guffaw - just to the end of Section 1.
- Gooner - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 3:14 pm:
“Who’s been to the Packer Hall of Fame?”
I have, and I’ve never forgiven my parents for their terrible judgment in that regard.
Now some might say, in defense of my parents, “But what else is there to do in Green Bay?”
Well, those people fail to ask “What kind of person believes Green Bay is a reasonable choice for a vacation?”
- Anonymous - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 3:18 pm:
“And yes, about these POOR people. If one is hungry, why not just ring the bell?”
- wordslinger - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 3:19 pm:
Here’s a potentially embarrassing question: do Tribbies spend more time at work sending out resumes or producing the newspaper?
- Gooner - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 3:21 pm:
In direct response to the Trib’s comment — as Wordslinger noted, if you’ve been to art museums more often in NY or Paris than in Chicago, you don’t really care about art.
For people who live here, the museums are a huge asset. On weekends when the weather is cold and/or rainy, I take my kids to one of them.
My kids learned to read in part by reading the information at the dinosaur exhibit at the Field. The Field, MSI, and Shedd have kept us entertained on countless Saturday mornings.
If people — particularly those with kids — are not going a few times a year, you are really missing something.
- Amalia - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 3:24 pm:
@Gooner, a throw ball hall of fame visit to the wrong team, oh my.
- Yellow Dog Democrat - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 3:42 pm:
@Gooner -
Our son’s first ‘trip’ was Garfield park conservatory at Christmastime.
Let’s not forget, Chicago Botanic Garden is the most-visited in the world,
- ??? - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 3:57 pm:
I probably HAVE spent more time in museums in Paris than in Chicago, but that’s probably just because during my one and only trip to Paris, it rained the whole freaking week and derailed the plans for a bunch of outdoor activities. Spent LOTS of time in LOTS of museums over there.
And I agree with Linus; it IS an embarrassing question - for the Trib, that is.
- wordslinger - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 4:02 pm:
I always advise young parents to get family passes for the Art Institute, Museum of Science and Industry and Brookfield Zoo.
Outstanding value if you use them year-roudn and some of the best memories of your life to boot.
- Gooner - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 4:13 pm:
Following up on Word’s comment –
One benefit of a membership is that you don’t feel compelled to spend a full day at a place. With a membership, you can go for two or three hours, and not feel you overpaid.
The choice of places depends on the age of the kids. When my kids were younger, MSI was the best. It has a lot of hands on stuff, and parking is indoors. We also did the Shedd, but that more because my kids liked sharks and because we could sit in the “basement” and have lunch and watch the dolphins. Those two activities alone made a trip there worthwhile.
The kids are in a dinosaur phase now, so the choice tends to be the Field.
We haven’t spend as much time in the AI yet. My kids are still a bit too young to really connect with the stuff, and other than an educational area in the northeast corner, nothing is hands on.
- Bogey Golfer - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 4:15 pm:
“Well, those people fail to ask “What kind of person believes Green Bay is a reasonable choice for a vacation?””
If it’s a rainy day in Door County, GB is an hour away. And there’s nothing better than to sit in Curly’s Pub with blue and orange on.
- wordslinger - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 4:22 pm:
– nothing is hands on.–
Yeah, well, not everyone gets the memo….
Let’s just say, don’t turn your head for long, or some four-year-old might be sitting in the lap of a 1,400-year-old Tang Dynasty Buddha.
But we’ll keep that on the down low….
- atbat - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 4:32 pm:
Been to 11 of the 25 so far and hope to go to all of these places. We should be very proud of our ALL of our local museums and cultural institutions. BTW, Wilmette has a great History Museum and the Lincoln Museum in Springfield is absolutely not to be missed.
- Kasich Walker, Jr. - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 4:49 pm:
@Vanilla Man — I thought the “Yep, I don’t see those folks pushing a minimum wage hike any time soon.” comment was directed at the Tribune editorial board. I didn’t see an attempt to pigeon-hole.
The Trib’s board position on the min wage: “Raising the minimum wage may be good politics, but it’s risky in the delicate economic climate of Illinois….”
The Trib board would rather have low wage employers get gov’t subsidies to boost their low wage workers via aid & make those workers sign up and beg than support a wage increase — or even an increase that would bring the minimum wage back in line even to what it is a few decades ago.
- Kasich Walker, Jr. - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 4:50 pm:
…..was
- MrJM - Friday, Sep 19, 14 @ 5:04 pm:
Here’s a potentially embarrassing question: do Tribbies spend more time at work sending out resumes or producing the newspaper?
Oh, snap!
– MrJM