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Even R2K now shows Kirk, Brady leading
Friday, May 7, 2010 - Posted by Rich Miller * The last Research 2000 poll conducted in February for Daily Kos didn’t even come close to matching up with anybody else. R2K had Mark Kirk and Bill Brady both trailing. They’re somewhat more in line now. One reason may be that their sample of senior citizens is larger than before, which they’ve taken heat for in the recent past. They had their 60+ at 16 percent before, when the 2006 gubernatorial exit polling had that number at 29 percent. This time, their sample size is up to 20. That’s still not good enough, so adjust for the Republicans accordingly. The number in parentheses is R2K’s February result. The numbers in brackets are other recent polls, which can be found here…
* And why they would put Scott Lee Cohen into a question and not Rich Whitney, who, unlike Cohen, is actually on the ballot, is totally beyond me. Anyway, they now have Quinn trailing Brady by a few points rather than leading Brady by eleven, which was completely blown away by other polling. Same thing goes for the parentheses and brackets. Results from those other polls are here…
  * Trendlines… * Methodology…
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- Carl Nyberg - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 12:45 pm:
Since Markos is an NIU grad and a Cubs fan I would have expected him to do better with the poll. Whitney should have been included along with “other” since various other candidates are attempting to qualify for the ballot, but haven’t yet.
- OneMan - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 1:00 pm:
That collar number for Alexi is interesting…
- Sewanee - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 1:01 pm:
The collar numbers are interesting for both Alexi and Quinn. Shocking, even.
- VanillaMan - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 1:04 pm:
This looks right.
Perfect, actually.
As to the results, well…
- Harry - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 1:06 pm:
Looks like Kirk is now leading but Alexi is still in the game.
- Ghost - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 1:08 pm:
I am not sure I buy the margin of error is +/- 4% …
- I-N-I - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 1:41 pm:
Kirk with better numbers than Brady in the South?
- A.B. - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 1:43 pm:
Wow, I actually would have expected the central and southern numbers to be stronger for Kirk and Brady. Especially with Central being Brady’s base and Kirk has higher numbers in the region… definitely leaves you with a lot of questions.
- Loop Lady - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 1:50 pm:
these numbers six months out tell me a pollster made some money…
- ShadyBillBrady - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 2:00 pm:
How do those collar numbers look interesting or “shocking”? The collars are predominantly white and conservative, right?
I’m gusesing those Brady numbers will continue to trend the other way as people get to know him. And before anyone attackd me, I said “I’m GUESSING”.
The interesting thing to me is how many undecideds there are. THOSE will be the numbers to watch.
- Obamarama - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 2:05 pm:
===I’m gusesing those Brady numbers will continue to trend the other way as people get to know him.===
What’s not to like? Gassing puppies? Social stances that would be extreme in Utah in 1950? The average voter loves that type of thing.
- Sewanee - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 2:16 pm:
===The collars are predominantly white and conservative, right?===
Obama won 51% to 55% in the collars, Quinn is polling at 13% in the collars. I know in ‘08 we were voting to put a fellow Illinoisan into the White House, but it does show that the collars aren’t automatically conservative.
- A.B. - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 2:19 pm:
- ShadyBillBrady -
The Collar Counties are usually the bed rock of your independent or swings votes. In most years this is the area that consistently decides the statewide winners.
- Conservative Veteran - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 3:19 pm:
In both of those polls, the only choices were a Republican, a Democrat, and undecided. Each race will have at least five candidates, so the pollsters should have given at least five candidate choices.
- Rich Miller - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 3:20 pm:
===Each race will have at least five candidates==
Poppycock.
- ShadyBillBrady - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 3:39 pm:
Sewanee, I believe I said “predominantly”, not “automatically”. Obama won in a lot of places that usually went Red, by the way.
I still believe the most important numbers there, as I said before, are the undecideds. And a lot of them may well be in the collars.
- Rich Miller - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 3:41 pm:
The collars have become much more Dem over the years. To be zonked like that in the collars is very bad news, indeed. Move along.
- ShadyBillBrady - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 3:58 pm:
I agree, getting zonked like that is bad news indeed.
But I guess it’s less surprising to me than to some others. What I see is that Alexi and Quinn had similar numbers in the collars - few more for Alexi, but also a few less undecideds. Could be that’s a factor of Alexi and Kirk both being better known up there and Brady not being as well known north of 80. In fact, the numbers up and down, collars and not, seem to be pretty similar in both races for the D and the R.
Collar numbers could be party affiliation, could be demographics, could be something totally different I guess. Likely a combination … On the surface though? Bad news for Alexi and Quinn, but not terribly surprising. At least to me.
- Steve-O - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 4:25 pm:
The results in the collar counties are following the same trends that occurred in the suburbs in Virginia, Jersey & Massachusetts…all of which overwhelmingly voted for Democrats in ‘06 & ‘08, but swung back to Republicans in ‘09 & ‘10.
I think once Kirk has more presence in Southern Illinois, his numbers will improve there.
- wordslinger - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 5:11 pm:
My gut feeling on the polls to now is that Kirk’s support seems too low and Brady’s seems too high.
The collar numbers have to make Brady feel real good. Still, if you go back to the primary, Quinn got more votes the collars than Brady did. There’s your base.
- Steve-O - Friday, May 7, 10 @ 5:44 pm:
=Still, if you go back to the primary, Quinn got more votes the collars than Brady did. =
Was it really and apples-to-apples comparison? 2 man race vs. a 6 man race?
- just sayin' - Saturday, May 8, 10 @ 12:01 am:
Looks like Brady is starting to slip. More people finding out he’s a lightweight. Quinn is too but it’s a Democratic state.