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Thursday, May 23, 2013 - Posted by Rich Miller

* This is welcomed news

Apple will source some components for its first line of U.S.-assembled Mac computers from Illinois, Chief Executive Tim Cook has revealed.

The Illinois-sourced parts will be assembled in a Texas plant the tech firm plans to build at a cost of more than $100 million.

“The product will be assembled in Texas, include components made in Illinois and Florida, and rely on equipment produced in Kentucky and Michigan,” Cook said while giving testimony regarding Apple’s tax policies at the U.S. Capitol Tuesday.

* Not horrible news, but not good news either

Chicago gained nearly 10,000 people from July 2011 to July 2012, but was the slowest-growing major city in the country according to U.S. Census Bureau estimates released Thursday.

It was the second year in a row that population grew here, but the increase so far shows no signs of making up for the loss of 200,000 people over the previous decade.

The growth here reflects a recession-driven trend of fewer people moving out of urban centers, said demographer Ken Johnson of the University of New Hampshire. […]

Like Chicago, suburbs in Cook County also grew slightly, adding about 7,600 people in contrast to losses from 2000-2010. […]

Among cities with more than one million people, sun-belt metropolises like Dallas, San Antonio, Phoenix, Houston and San Diego all posted gains of more than 1.3 percent, while Chicago grew by little more than one-third of 1 percent.

       

18 Comments
  1. - wordslinger - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 9:21 am:

    Downtown residential growth has been strong. It seems to me those who can get out of poorer neighborhoods, do.

    http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130302/ISSUE01/303029987/the-hottest-urban-center-in-the-u-s-chicagos-mega-loop


  2. - Michelle Flaherty - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 9:35 am:

    Texas, the new China.


  3. - train111 - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 9:44 am:

    If you look at the data and project it out to 2020, then you get the state as a whole gaining 198324 residents or a .93% gain in population, putting Illinois once again on the fast track to losing another congressional seat.

    Cook county projected out 10 years gains 163,004 people or a 1.03% gain. The 6 county suburban area is on track to gain 109,561 people or a gain of 1.03% as well. (Interestingly both Lake and McHenry counties appear to be losing population)
    That leaves the rest of the state–projected out over 10 years to lose 74,241 people or a loss of 1.7%. (In fact if one projects out all of the downstate counties to 2020, one finds that out of 95 downstate counties only 16 actually gain population.)

    train111


  4. - Empty Chair - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 9:47 am:

    A topical Governing Magazine article on a related subject: http://www.governing.com/blogs/by-the-numbers/city-populations-increase-following-declines-census-estimates-show.html


  5. - Jack - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 9:50 am:

    Fracking might increase state population like it did for North Dakota. People go where the job growth is happening. That might not do much for Chicago immediately though.

    Parts of my family moved to Southern Illinois for the great coal boom in the early 1900’s. When the coal boom slowed down, they trickled up to Chicago in the 1930’s for those job opportunities. My family has been trickling back out of Chicago since the late 1960’s.


  6. - Abe - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 10:11 am:

    Long-term, I’m not too worried about the sun belt taking all the population away from more temperate cities with plentiful access to freshwater. Pretty sure the climactic scales are already tipping back in our favor.


  7. - Bill White - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 10:19 am:

    Wordslinger’s link is a must read for those who would bash Illinois as an economic wasteland.

    Companies follow talent and creative people like to congregate in Chicago.

    Much to the rage and despair of our local Governor Walker and Governor Snyder wannabes.


  8. - dupage dan - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 10:24 am:

    Hey, whoever is last out of the state, please turn off the lights. (snark)


  9. - Anon - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 10:33 am:

    Wow look at all the free press Apple is getting with this announcement that is very very thin on details.

    Color me excited when I see Pat Quinn at press conference with Mr. Cook. Smiles and cameras all around.


  10. - ZC - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 10:34 am:

    It would be good to control here for cities that are more or less fixed now in their geographic boundaries (Chicago) and cities that can keep annexing territory around them and growing in geographic size (which I presume would capture still some of the Texas / Southwest states). Chicago’s never going to be able to match cities that can keep scooping up formerly unincorporated residents outside their previous boundaries.


  11. - Liberty Not Anarchy - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 11:01 am:

    Anyone see the NYT article including Apple and Abbott Labs along with others are keeping their cash overseas to avoid paying tax? It is cheaper to borrow US cash than pay the tax. Abbot Labs CEO is a big supporter of pension “reform” and they want tax breaks while smaller businesses have to pay higher taxes than they do.


  12. - anon - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 11:56 am:

    Yes the great city of Chicago and the statistical hype.

    Looking forward people will want to come to Chicago and bring their families because the mayor just closed a record 50 public schools, education was suppose to be his priority. Closed seven mental health centers a sure sign of how strong the growth is.

    HOMICIDE CAPITAL.

    Someone get’s blasted in the head. BAM, right from the get-go it cost taxpayers $800 for the autopsy. Multiply that by 505 last year.

    In addition to the homicides Chicago had over 2,000 non-fatal shootings last year. Cha-ching, factor in a $1,000 dollar ambulance ride to the ER per victim and then about a quarter million per pop for doctor and hospital expenses as most of the victims have no insurance the CHicago taxpayers foot the bills. Then you have the rehab, etc..

    See how easy it is to play the stat’s game and find a sub-segment of the population to paint a picture?

    Well this block over here is doing exceedingly well and then refer to it as it’s all of Chicago.

    Sorry, but not sorry and not buying the city is growing hype.

    All-in shootings in the city cost Chicago $2.5 billion dollars last year and it’s probably more than that. http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-05-22/first-lady-s-chicago-shows-gun-toll-for-city-that-bleeds#p1

    Is it any wonder why as the mayor and top cop live in denial and blow thru the CPD overtime budget so much so that the city data portal has pulled those monthly figures off of it’s website?

    What happen to the transparency mr mayor?

    Check the link provided to get a handle on how much the cities violence is costing the taxpayers I’ve only provided a small sample from that piece.


  13. - Chavez-respecting Obamist - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 12:14 pm:

    I prefer living near a decent supply of drinkable water myself.


  14. - anon - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 12:15 pm:

    from the link wordslinger put up.

    …After decades of watching the suburbs boom (often at the city’s expense), Chicago now is outperforming the surrounding area by almost any measure—jobs, income, retail sales and residential property values, to name a few—despite the loss of 200,000 people in the 2010 census.

    Read more: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20130302/ISSUE01/303029987/the-hottest-urban-center-in-the-u-s-chicagos-mega-loop#ixzz2U8VxNywP
    Stay on top of Chicago business with our free daily e-newsletters

    The US Census reported median income for Chicago at $47,371 and for Illinois it was $56,576 (2007-11) Chicago is beating by any measure eh? Chicago is mainly surrounded by Illinois last time I checked haha..

    http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/17/1714000.html


  15. - Cook County Commoner - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 12:43 pm:

    Considering the problems in Chicago and the state (murder rate in Chicago, public education, fiscal mismanagement, unemployment rate, taxes, etc), the numbers may be viewed as a “Win” in some circles. Chicago is becoming increasingly inhospitable to the unskilled, uneducated and unfunded. The numbers may be viewed as a positive relocation of undesirables by some Chicago residents. Give it a decade or so more, and an urban gentrification may be more visible.


  16. - Six Degrees of Separation - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 3:16 pm:

    CMAP’s 2040 plan calls for a City population of nearly 3 1/2 million in 27 years. Someone’s really going to have to step it up in making the rest of the city attractive to come anywhere close to that #. An unprecedented teardown, renovation and new construction binge.


  17. - wishbone - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 5:02 pm:

    “Looking forward people will want to come to Chicago and bring their families because the mayor just closed a record 50 public schools, education was suppose to be his priority.”

    The schools that remain will stronger because of the closings. Folks that argue for keeping half empty schools open never explain where the needed money is supposed to come from. The mayor is right on this issue.


  18. - Optimus Prime - Thursday, May 23, 13 @ 5:27 pm:

    @Wishbone -

    Here’s an idea. Rather than a meek plan to retreat from our neighborhoods, following in the footsteps of Detroit, we could actually come up with a plan in Chicago to draw back all of the people we have chased out over the last decade.

    Maybe start by providing adequate police protection, investing some of our money in the collapsing infrastructure in neighborhoods instead of dumping it into downtown projects?

    There is something unsavory about thanking the folks who have been sticking it out in neighborhoods on the South and West side by slamming the school doors in their kids faces.


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