* So, more than 30,000 votes in 2010 for Pat Quinn were fraudulent? That’s what Roger Keats says and Bill Brady appears to agree…
State Senator Bill Brady won the 2010 gubernatorial election, former State Senator Roger Keats emphatically alleged last week during a Chicago book tour, and Pat Quinn is governor today only because election fraud in Chicago and Illinois is prevalent and widespread.
“Bill Brady won the election. Even the media realized what had happened, but said nothing,” Keats said. “Brady knew it was hopeless to try to overturn the election, as those entities involved with deciding close elections were composed of majority Democratic members.”
State Senator Bill Brady (R-Bloomington), who is expected to declare soon another try at the governor’s seat in 2014, confirmed that Keats’ allegations aren'’t as far-fetched as they might sound.
“After a very close election in November 2010, there was a suspicion that voter fraud had taken place, but how would we prove the presence of fraud?” Brady said. […]
“Only 30,000 votes separated me from Pat Quinn. Lawyers were consulted, they advised me that it would cost millions of dollars to prove that fraud had occurred to result in my defeat,” he said.
OK, wait a minute here. This is just goofy on its face.
Republican Mark Kirk defeated Alexi Giannoulias by 59,220 votes in 2010. Those must’ve been some seriously sophisticated fraudsters if they were splitting their tickets like that.
Not to mention that Republican Dan Rutherford defeated Robin Kelly by over 161,000 votes.
Oh, and Republican Judy Baar Topinka won her race by 429,876 votes that same year.
“The funny thing is the vote fraud that saved Quinn was, I believe, really to protect Joe Berrios in his race against Forrest Claypoole [for Cook County assessor]. Quinn just benefitted from straight Democrat ballots,” Keats wrote in follow-up correspondence.
AWESOME “Citizen Kane” reference! How cool is that for this Post.
To the Post,
Say, where does Keats get his information, from all the Poll Watchers or Volunteers in the Precincts on Election Day the Brady/Plummer Campaign had on the ground????
Four votes a precinct is all it would have taken… but “Fraud” is fun, too, to claim…from Texas, right Mr. Keats?
Dope.
- Small Town Liberal - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:16 am:
The dogs are howling in Bloomington.
Get over it, Bill, maybe instead of measuring offices you should have been pounding the pavement.
Brady lost because his message was “Hey, Im not him”. It takes more than that to win.
But, it is not out of the realm of possibility that voter fraud could have played a part. Come on, you are talking about Cook and Alexander Counties. It has happened before. It just does no good to make statements that he lost due to fraud if you have no proof it happened. If they had proof of it happening they would have mentioned it before now. Bringing this up now with nothing to back it up just sounds like whining.
===“After a very close election in November 2010, there was a suspicion that voter fraud had taken place, but how would we prove the presence of fraud?”===
Oh, that is so delicious.
Bill Brady. Own it. I tell the supporters of dillard the same thing;
You got out-worked, out-hustled, had no ground game and were measuring drapes in Bloomington to take to Springfield, all the while ignoring Cook County, and a Ground Game, AND a GOTV plan …
Your Campaign Staff lost this campaign for you. Learn. Learn from the mistake. Blaming everyone and their brother instead of understanding what really happned makes this new attempt to run for governor …
a joke.
You are embarrassing yourself, Bill Brady, and every single voter that voted for you. How you can NOT just embrace that the race was lost on the Ground. Finding voters that would have voted for you, but you never got them to the polls speaks more to how POOR of a campaign you ran, now this “quote” reinforces the idea, you have no clue HOW to win, what it take TO win, and have no desire to learn WHAT it take to win statewide.
You spoke with class when you lost, now you are speaking with Dopey ignorace, making Jason Plummer look like he has a “clue”.
What’s next, Bill Brady, “Counties vote”, “C(r)ook County”, Break away from Chicago and form a new state as Campaign Planks?
Yikes!
You were invisible in Cook and Chicago, and NOW you are surprised you got beat there?
a very sad situation–Brady lost, Quinn won. Brady should have raised these accusations right after the election, if he had reason to believe it is true. waiting this long just makes no sense and certainly does nothing for his credibility. move on, Bill, give us a reason to support you this time. agree with SO IL M, sounds like whining to me.
The standard “Drudge” and “Fox News” answer for every GOP defeat—fraud. Sad thing is that alot of voters buy into all that goofiness. Look at the percentage of GOP voters who now believe Obama was reeleted through fraud–that ACORN stole the election even though it has not existed since 2010. (49% according to a PPP poll last November) Makes one want to just keep slamming their head into the wall. The stupid–it hurts!!!!
I guess it all goes to show that alot of Americans can’t accept that perhaps–just maybe their opinion is in the minority. If the rest of the country doesn’t agree with me, then the way that the rest of the country’s opinion was gauged is fraudulent!!
I thought Senator/Colonel Keats and his wife moved to Texas.
- VonKlutzenplatz - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:45 am:
Saying “they cheated” is much easier than admitting “we are bad at politics.
But it sure plays to their core, who believe that what Illinois REALLY wants (if all the voters would be counted and if we could just stop the liberal press from taking control) is no abortion ever, women at home in the kitchen, and the Bible (or at least the parts they like) as the law.
They seem to believe that there is some far right core that exists in sufficient numbers to win, if only those Chicago-types would stop cheating.
Which, of course, is whey they keep losing elections.
Ah, vote fraud in Chicago ain’t what it used to be. (But Roger Keats ain’t what he used to be, either.)
I have a fond memory of a televised vote fraud press conference when Dan Webb was U.S. Attorney. He and Jesse Jackson were both speaking, and you could see them blocking each other, trying to get the center position before the cameras.
What an idiot. I’m sorry, but there’s simply no other explanation than sheer stupidity. It’s bogus on its face - so stupid. Making the allegation makes you look bad which hurts your current efforts - so stupid.
You want to know what happened in 2010 Bill? At the end of the Chicago Tonight debate, as the credits were rolling, Carol Marin asked what each of you was going to do. Your answer? Go out to dinner with staff. PQ’s answer? “I’ve got a couple more events to hit tonight.” You were outworked - plain and simple.
Bill is my senator and I know him personally. I am a Republican. I didn’t vote for him because he would be a lousy governor. However, being from downstate, I am sure ALL the voter fraud commiteed in the state is confined to Cook County. The rest of us are pure of heart.
@FakeJasonPlummer - @UncleBillBrady, I told you, Dad was right, there was fraud and stuff going on, and “C(r)ook County” stole my, um, our chances #BlameBlameBlame
@UncleBillBrady - Hey @FakeJasonPlummer, I want you to know, I never blamed you, I knew it had to be Chicago. No one covered areas to hide like you. #LGsIfYouAreHurtingYouArentHelping
@FakeJasonPlummer - Thanks @UncleBillBrady! I never understood this “ground game” nonsense, I mean, I wasn’t ever campaigning in the sky. #Clueless
@UncleBillBrady - There are no Republican voters in “C(r)ook County” and the Campaign learned that. If we would have looked, I mean, what, we would have found, at most, 4 voters a precinct? #WhyTry?
@UncleBillBrady - I wanted all my Tweeps out there, I have never been hung drapes, 14 feet in length, measured myself, call Brady ‘14 HQ for price #NeverConfuseActivityWithAchievement
@FakeJasonPlummer - I just want you to know @UncleBillBrady, I learned my lesson, and I could really be a gooder LG and everything. The people at the Bank love me. #ScottLeeCohenImNot
@UncleBillBrady - “Air Coryell” was the Chargers offense that got it done. Great team, no ground game, however. #NoSuperBowlWinEither
Ridiculous. They provide not a speck of real evidence.
Buncha whiny losers.
Why is anyone listening to Roger Keats anyway? Guy fled the state and took the bloated pension we have to pay him for life. And while he was here he accomplished nothing.
- Boone's is Back - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:16 am:
That Citizen Kane post is great.
In re Keats- he’s a prime example of GOP revisionist history. Rather than admit defeat and declare the Cook County GOP a dinosaur he alleges conspiracy, voter fraud, and any other excuse he can think of. Claypool? Seriously? The dude got creamed.
If Senator Brady believed there was widespread voter fraud in Cook County, he had a duty to report it. And pragmatically, I believe he could have found some deep-pocketed supporters (such as the Koch brothers) who would have been happy to show the nation that President Obama’s hometown was a hotbed of voter fraud.
Keats and his wife were running Cook offices for the GOP, I know for sure in the primary but I think she was pushing the efforts in Cook and Chicago for the party in the General as well.
Brady had no ground game in Cook and won Lake/McHenry by 1 or two points not enough.
The standard thinking is a Republican has to get 500,000 votes out of Cook to have a chance to win on election night the race was 5,000 votes and Brady had 495,000 in Cook. Night over
@Two-PuttTomCross - Thanks @UncleBillBrady for finally seeing that it was Fraud that led to your loss, not me golfing or anything #MedinahCountryClubRulesOnElectionDay
“If there’s any fraud being perpetrated, it’s the Illinois Republican Party pretending to be a political organization.”
Truer words were never spoken wordslinger.
- Arthur Andersen - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:44 am:
word, I hope Keats has a new book about the beauty of Texas and is not still shagging the “ripped from the headlines” piece of baloney he wrote a couple years ago. It was fictional, way fictional, but he used real people and events in recent IL politics and slightly changed names and context to make some terrible sub rosa inferences. The worst $3 I spent in quite awhile.
I remember when he was in the Senate and had a funder called “between the sheets with Senator Keats.”
Wonder if Brady got hit with a 2×4 on the head on on of the jobsites back in the day. Could explain a lot.
“You’re the greatest fool I’ve ever known, Bill Brady. If it was anybody else, I’d say what happened to you would have been a lesson to you. Only you’re going to need more than one lesson. And I guess you’re going to get more than one lesson.”
It’s not me. I worked hard. I did everything I could. Those other guys won through cheating. Well maybe not directly by them, but they benefitted by someone else’s cheating which is almost the same.
This is just plain silly! Bill Brady had no campaign presence in Chicago and Cook County and that was the deciding factor in his narrow defeat. Quinn was and is an ineffectual bumbler, but Brady ceded Chicago to him. It is difficult to establish fraud in precincts where there were no actual GOP judges and pollwatchers.
Brady ran a poor campaign North of I-80. We are still waiting for him to reveal his “secret” plan to balance the Illinois budget and address the pension crisis.
Kirk Dillard would have probably beaten Quinn, but he did not win the primary.
“The trouble is, Oswego Willy, you don’t realize you’re talking to two people. As Bill Brady, citizen, whose candidate, …me, lost by 31,834 votes…
You see, I do have a general idea of my loss,… I sympathize with you.
Bill Brady is a Ground Game Ignorer. His Campaign should be run out of town. A committee should be formed to run against him. You may, if you can form such a committee, put me down for a contribution of $1,000 dollars.
On the other hand, I am Candidate Bill Brady for Governor again! As such, it’s my duty - and I’ll let you in on a little secret, it’s also my pleasure - to see to it that decent, hard-working people in this state aren’t robbed of having me on the ballot just because - they haven’t anybody to look after their interests, with the goofy Voter Fraud claim or not.”
This claim is just stupid on the face of it. Read Rich’s comments again.
Brady just doesn’t have the smarts to be a State Senator — he demonstrated during the last campaign that he doesn’t comprehend the budget –a shortcoming sometimes joked about in Springfield.
lincolnlover @9:54—-Alexander has learned well from Cook
But as you stated, he didnt lose because of fraud, he lost because he couldnt enthuse people to vote for him.
Voter fraud in Cook County is being so easily dismissed. I understand that brady has proven nothing, but are we all so quick to dismiss corruption in Fraud in the land of Lincoln?
Embarrassing. Brady has been at this long enough that he should know that if you associate with a fringe goof, people may start to think you are a fringe goof as well.
–I understand that brady has proven nothing, but are we all so quick to dismiss corruption in Fraud in the land of Lincoln? –
1. Originates with Roger Keats
2. 2.5 years after the fact.
3. No evidence.
Furthermore, what exactly does this mean?
–“Only 30,000 votes separated me from Pat Quinn. Lawyers were consulted, they advised me that it would cost millions of dollars to prove that fraud had occurred to result in my defeat,” he said.–
Who was going to “prove” the fraud? Wouldn’t that have to be an law enforcement? Why would that cost him anything?
SO IL M, thanks. As I stated, no proof was provided. No need to fit me with a tin foil hat just yet. I firmly beleive Brady lost because he frequently hit the parade circuit without socks.
The only fraud that led to Bill Brady’s loss was the fraud perpatrated by his staff on the candidate himself. They were literally picking out inaugural gowns a week before the vote and even tweeting about it. A little more ground game and a lot less riding on the bus and pre-selecting office spaces would have helped alot. 4 votes per precinct - Brady and his crew should hang their collective heads in shame. If Brady had any dignity or self actualization left, he wouldn’t even seek the nomination again.
- Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 1:10 pm:
=== Four votes a precinct is all it would have taken ===
Exactly.
Just two voters per precinct to have selected “Brady” instead of “Quinn”.
“Voter fraud in Cook County is being so easily dismissed. I understand that brady has proven nothing, but are we all so quick to dismiss corruption in Fraud in the land of Lincoln?”
Voter fraud in Cook County just ain’t what it used to be. Too many folks were prosecuted for it. Pat Fitzgerald would have been only too happy to bring those cases — but things just aren’t the same. There may still be a little bit in some wards — and a little bit outside Cook County — but there’s no evidence at all that it’s a significant continuing problem.
I agree with Mcleaniac. Brady was even doing robocalls in the Kilbride race! That may have lost him some votes. They thought they had won. What facts have they come up with regarding instances of fraud?. Brady is a joke who will probably win another primary,
By the way, I didn’t realize the Oswego Willy vs. 47th Ward Lite Guv debate scenario sparked such an epic tangent on Friday.
After going back through the comments by 47th, soccermom, wordslinger, chicago cynic, arthur andersen, cincinnatus - the whole lot of ya - you can count me in on this road trip.
Ya’ll have my promise to pump the gas and ride quietly on the roof alongside the Karma Machine if we already have a full house in the “SoccerCynicWordMobile”.
On this trip, of course - FKA -, your idea, we need a Promoter on the Casino circuit.
Is this a caravan trip, we getting one big Camper/Cruiser, how is that going to work, and once that is decided, who gets that bill, Daley or Rauner?
No snark, that itinery, pretty sweet way to go about learning downstate for a statewide candidate. Would be a heck of a lot of fun too.
- Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 4:48 pm:
LOL, soccermom… me too!
- Just The Way It Is One - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 5:08 pm:
Cmon Bill–the grapes are SO sour here, almost 3 years later, I could barf on ‘em. You ran a decent Race but lost. Get over it already–or else your credibility as a likely FUture candidate, with THESE kind of adolescent reactions, will start sliding REAL fast down some Sinkhole somewhere Downstate…!
Unfortunately for you, it’s a matter of Public Record now, and have you seen or heard your GOP opponents pounce on your reaction yet?! If not, get ready soon to start hearin’ things like this, “You have to get over the PAST in life when things don’t work out like you planned, put it beHIND you, man up, and move forward. Since Mr. Brady obviously is unable to DO that, Republicans in Illinois really need to look for someone NEW as their Candidate–a forwar-looking candidate who is looking to and excited about the great FUture of Illinois…etc., etc. etc.!”
- Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 5:09 pm:
That would make for an amazing trip, as well as an opportunity to see some places I haven’t been in a while.
A chance to reconnect with the grandeur of our state, if you will. So diverse both demographically and geographically.
Willy, I’m actually thinking tour bus. Motley Crue style. Plenty of room to stretch out, wifi, big windows to enjoy the view, and a nice “make-your-own” cannoli station in the kitchen.
As for the bill?
Let’s be generous and let Daley-Rauner split the bill. They can be “co-sponsors” of our tour. Picture it now:
A giant smiling Rauner face on one side and a giant smiling Daley face on the other. Rich riding shotgun as our captain.
On second thought, how about a giant replica of Oscar? A giant mug plastered all over the bus. We could get some fur painted on the sides and little puppy ears sticking off the roof, too.
Holy cow! I think we just found the official mascot and “face” of our tour! Lord knows he’s cuter than most of us. Maybe he can drive the bus too, once he’s done with obedience school.
I think we have a plan…..
Seriously though? I’ve actually copied that thread as a reference for places to check out as I meander thorough the Midwest during work.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:07 am:
First:
AWESOME “Citizen Kane” reference! How cool is that for this Post.
To the Post,
Say, where does Keats get his information, from all the Poll Watchers or Volunteers in the Precincts on Election Day the Brady/Plummer Campaign had on the ground????
Four votes a precinct is all it would have taken… but “Fraud” is fun, too, to claim…from Texas, right Mr. Keats?
Dope.
- Small Town Liberal - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:16 am:
The dogs are howling in Bloomington.
Get over it, Bill, maybe instead of measuring offices you should have been pounding the pavement.
- RWP - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:23 am:
No to mention he is talking about two different elections Berrios v. Claypoole would have been the primary.
- SO IL M - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:23 am:
Brady lost because his message was “Hey, Im not him”. It takes more than that to win.
But, it is not out of the realm of possibility that voter fraud could have played a part. Come on, you are talking about Cook and Alexander Counties. It has happened before. It just does no good to make statements that he lost due to fraud if you have no proof it happened. If they had proof of it happening they would have mentioned it before now. Bringing this up now with nothing to back it up just sounds like whining.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:24 am:
===“After a very close election in November 2010, there was a suspicion that voter fraud had taken place, but how would we prove the presence of fraud?”===
Oh, that is so delicious.
Bill Brady. Own it. I tell the supporters of dillard the same thing;
You got out-worked, out-hustled, had no ground game and were measuring drapes in Bloomington to take to Springfield, all the while ignoring Cook County, and a Ground Game, AND a GOTV plan …
Your Campaign Staff lost this campaign for you. Learn. Learn from the mistake. Blaming everyone and their brother instead of understanding what really happned makes this new attempt to run for governor …
a joke.
You are embarrassing yourself, Bill Brady, and every single voter that voted for you. How you can NOT just embrace that the race was lost on the Ground. Finding voters that would have voted for you, but you never got them to the polls speaks more to how POOR of a campaign you ran, now this “quote” reinforces the idea, you have no clue HOW to win, what it take TO win, and have no desire to learn WHAT it take to win statewide.
You spoke with class when you lost, now you are speaking with Dopey ignorace, making Jason Plummer look like he has a “clue”.
What’s next, Bill Brady, “Counties vote”, “C(r)ook County”, Break away from Chicago and form a new state as Campaign Planks?
Yikes!
You were invisible in Cook and Chicago, and NOW you are surprised you got beat there?
Wake. UP.
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:30 am:
Roger Keats book tour? Missed that.
Comic book? Coloring book?
The sobering facts:
Democrats have won three straight governor’s races. The last time that happened was before the Civil War.
Two of those races were to Blago, one to Quinn, in a historic GOP year with Blago on his way to the pokie.
In 2010, 1.4 million votes were cast in Cook County, 2.4 million in the rest of the state.
If there’s any fraud being perpetrated, it’s the Illinois Republican Party pretending to be a political organization.
- Shore - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:31 am:
Marcia Brady, Greg Brady, Brady Anderson, even Alice, all have better shots at winning statewide before Bill Brady. Can we move on?
- dave - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:39 am:
**No to mention he is talking about two different elections Berrios v. Claypoole would have been the primary.**
No - Claypool ran as an independent against Berrios in the General Election.
- Susiejones - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:42 am:
a very sad situation–Brady lost, Quinn won. Brady should have raised these accusations right after the election, if he had reason to believe it is true. waiting this long just makes no sense and certainly does nothing for his credibility. move on, Bill, give us a reason to support you this time. agree with SO IL M, sounds like whining to me.
- train111 - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:43 am:
The standard “Drudge” and “Fox News” answer for every GOP defeat—fraud. Sad thing is that alot of voters buy into all that goofiness. Look at the percentage of GOP voters who now believe Obama was reeleted through fraud–that ACORN stole the election even though it has not existed since 2010. (49% according to a PPP poll last November) Makes one want to just keep slamming their head into the wall. The stupid–it hurts!!!!
I guess it all goes to show that alot of Americans can’t accept that perhaps–just maybe their opinion is in the minority. If the rest of the country doesn’t agree with me, then the way that the rest of the country’s opinion was gauged is fraudulent!!
Train111
- GA Watcher - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:44 am:
I thought Senator/Colonel Keats and his wife moved to Texas.
- VonKlutzenplatz - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:45 am:
Saying “they cheated” is much easier than admitting “we are bad at politics.
But it sure plays to their core, who believe that what Illinois REALLY wants (if all the voters would be counted and if we could just stop the liberal press from taking control) is no abortion ever, women at home in the kitchen, and the Bible (or at least the parts they like) as the law.
They seem to believe that there is some far right core that exists in sufficient numbers to win, if only those Chicago-types would stop cheating.
Which, of course, is whey they keep losing elections.
- Keyrock - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:46 am:
Ah, vote fraud in Chicago ain’t what it used to be. (But Roger Keats ain’t what he used to be, either.)
I have a fond memory of a televised vote fraud press conference when Dan Webb was U.S. Attorney. He and Jesse Jackson were both speaking, and you could see them blocking each other, trying to get the center position before the cameras.
- Chicago Cynic - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:54 am:
What an idiot. I’m sorry, but there’s simply no other explanation than sheer stupidity. It’s bogus on its face - so stupid. Making the allegation makes you look bad which hurts your current efforts - so stupid.
You want to know what happened in 2010 Bill? At the end of the Chicago Tonight debate, as the credits were rolling, Carol Marin asked what each of you was going to do. Your answer? Go out to dinner with staff. PQ’s answer? “I’ve got a couple more events to hit tonight.” You were outworked - plain and simple.
- lincolnlover - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 9:54 am:
Bill is my senator and I know him personally. I am a Republican. I didn’t vote for him because he would be a lousy governor. However, being from downstate, I am sure ALL the voter fraud commiteed in the state is confined to Cook County. The rest of us are pure of heart.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:08 am:
@FakeJasonPlummer - @UncleBillBrady, I told you, Dad was right, there was fraud and stuff going on, and “C(r)ook County” stole my, um, our chances #BlameBlameBlame
@UncleBillBrady - Hey @FakeJasonPlummer, I want you to know, I never blamed you, I knew it had to be Chicago. No one covered areas to hide like you. #LGsIfYouAreHurtingYouArentHelping
@FakeJasonPlummer - Thanks @UncleBillBrady! I never understood this “ground game” nonsense, I mean, I wasn’t ever campaigning in the sky. #Clueless
@UncleBillBrady - There are no Republican voters in “C(r)ook County” and the Campaign learned that. If we would have looked, I mean, what, we would have found, at most, 4 voters a precinct? #WhyTry?
@UncleBillBrady - I wanted all my Tweeps out there, I have never been hung drapes, 14 feet in length, measured myself, call Brady ‘14 HQ for price #NeverConfuseActivityWithAchievement
@FakeJasonPlummer - I just want you to know @UncleBillBrady, I learned my lesson, and I could really be a gooder LG and everything. The people at the Bank love me. #ScottLeeCohenImNot
@UncleBillBrady - “Air Coryell” was the Chargers offense that got it done. Great team, no ground game, however. #NoSuperBowlWinEither
- too obvious - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:14 am:
Ridiculous. They provide not a speck of real evidence.
Buncha whiny losers.
Why is anyone listening to Roger Keats anyway? Guy fled the state and took the bloated pension we have to pay him for life. And while he was here he accomplished nothing.
- Boone's is Back - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:16 am:
That Citizen Kane post is great.
In re Keats- he’s a prime example of GOP revisionist history. Rather than admit defeat and declare the Cook County GOP a dinosaur he alleges conspiracy, voter fraud, and any other excuse he can think of. Claypool? Seriously? The dude got creamed.
- RWP - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:16 am:
***Not to mention he is talking about two different elections Berrios v. Claypoole would have been the primary.***
**No - Claypool ran as an independent against Berrios in the General Election.**
Dave: I stand corrected - I totally blocked that.
R
- soccermom - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:21 am:
If Senator Brady believed there was widespread voter fraud in Cook County, he had a duty to report it. And pragmatically, I believe he could have found some deep-pocketed supporters (such as the Koch brothers) who would have been happy to show the nation that President Obama’s hometown was a hotbed of voter fraud.
This is worse than whiny - -it’s irresponsible.
- votecounter - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:23 am:
Keats and his wife were running Cook offices for the GOP, I know for sure in the primary but I think she was pushing the efforts in Cook and Chicago for the party in the General as well.
Brady had no ground game in Cook and won Lake/McHenry by 1 or two points not enough.
The standard thinking is a Republican has to get 500,000 votes out of Cook to have a chance to win on election night the race was 5,000 votes and Brady had 495,000 in Cook. Night over
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:28 am:
@Two-PuttTomCross - Thanks @UncleBillBrady for finally seeing that it was Fraud that led to your loss, not me golfing or anything #MedinahCountryClubRulesOnElectionDay
- too obvious - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:35 am:
“If there’s any fraud being perpetrated, it’s the Illinois Republican Party pretending to be a political organization.”
Truer words were never spoken wordslinger.
- Arthur Andersen - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:44 am:
word, I hope Keats has a new book about the beauty of Texas and is not still shagging the “ripped from the headlines” piece of baloney he wrote a couple years ago. It was fictional, way fictional, but he used real people and events in recent IL politics and slightly changed names and context to make some terrible sub rosa inferences. The worst $3 I spent in quite awhile.
I remember when he was in the Senate and had a funder called “between the sheets with Senator Keats.”
Wonder if Brady got hit with a 2×4 on the head on on of the jobsites back in the day. Could explain a lot.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:48 am:
Citizen Brady …
“You’re the greatest fool I’ve ever known, Bill Brady. If it was anybody else, I’d say what happened to you would have been a lesson to you. Only you’re going to need more than one lesson. And I guess you’re going to get more than one lesson.”
- zatoichi - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:49 am:
It’s not me. I worked hard. I did everything I could. Those other guys won through cheating. Well maybe not directly by them, but they benefitted by someone else’s cheating which is almost the same.
Yada, yada, yada.
- Ahoy! - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:53 am:
–Even the media realized what had happened, but said nothing–
I don’t see the media passing up that kind of story.
- Esquire - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:56 am:
What a pair of goofs!
This is just plain silly! Bill Brady had no campaign presence in Chicago and Cook County and that was the deciding factor in his narrow defeat. Quinn was and is an ineffectual bumbler, but Brady ceded Chicago to him. It is difficult to establish fraud in precincts where there were no actual GOP judges and pollwatchers.
Brady ran a poor campaign North of I-80. We are still waiting for him to reveal his “secret” plan to balance the Illinois budget and address the pension crisis.
Kirk Dillard would have probably beaten Quinn, but he did not win the primary.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 10:59 am:
“The trouble is, Oswego Willy, you don’t realize you’re talking to two people. As Bill Brady, citizen, whose candidate, …me, lost by 31,834 votes…
You see, I do have a general idea of my loss,… I sympathize with you.
Bill Brady is a Ground Game Ignorer. His Campaign should be run out of town. A committee should be formed to run against him. You may, if you can form such a committee, put me down for a contribution of $1,000 dollars.
On the other hand, I am Candidate Bill Brady for Governor again! As such, it’s my duty - and I’ll let you in on a little secret, it’s also my pleasure - to see to it that decent, hard-working people in this state aren’t robbed of having me on the ballot just because - they haven’t anybody to look after their interests, with the goofy Voter Fraud claim or not.”
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 11:25 am:
This claim is just stupid on the face of it. Read Rich’s comments again.
Brady just doesn’t have the smarts to be a State Senator — he demonstrated during the last campaign that he doesn’t comprehend the budget –a shortcoming sometimes joked about in Springfield.
Oh wait he’s got that job already.
- SO IL M - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 11:33 am:
lincolnlover @9:54—-Alexander has learned well from Cook
But as you stated, he didnt lose because of fraud, he lost because he couldnt enthuse people to vote for him.
- Wumpus - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 11:41 am:
Voter fraud in Cook County is being so easily dismissed. I understand that brady has proven nothing, but are we all so quick to dismiss corruption in Fraud in the land of Lincoln?
- Bill F. - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 11:41 am:
Embarrassing. Brady has been at this long enough that he should know that if you associate with a fringe goof, people may start to think you are a fringe goof as well.
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 12:05 pm:
–I understand that brady has proven nothing, but are we all so quick to dismiss corruption in Fraud in the land of Lincoln? –
1. Originates with Roger Keats
2. 2.5 years after the fact.
3. No evidence.
Furthermore, what exactly does this mean?
–“Only 30,000 votes separated me from Pat Quinn. Lawyers were consulted, they advised me that it would cost millions of dollars to prove that fraud had occurred to result in my defeat,” he said.–
Who was going to “prove” the fraud? Wouldn’t that have to be an law enforcement? Why would that cost him anything?
- SO IL M - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 12:42 pm:
Wumpus—I dont dismiss it. Admit it is very possible, but dont believe thats why he lost. If he had, you would have heard this before now.
- Wumpus - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 12:45 pm:
SO IL M, thanks. As I stated, no proof was provided. No need to fit me with a tin foil hat just yet. I firmly beleive Brady lost because he frequently hit the parade circuit without socks.
- Mcleaniac - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 1:02 pm:
The only fraud that led to Bill Brady’s loss was the fraud perpatrated by his staff on the candidate himself. They were literally picking out inaugural gowns a week before the vote and even tweeting about it. A little more ground game and a lot less riding on the bus and pre-selecting office spaces would have helped alot. 4 votes per precinct - Brady and his crew should hang their collective heads in shame. If Brady had any dignity or self actualization left, he wouldn’t even seek the nomination again.
- Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 1:10 pm:
=== Four votes a precinct is all it would have taken ===
Exactly.
Just two voters per precinct to have selected “Brady” instead of “Quinn”.
- Keyrock - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 1:19 pm:
“Voter fraud in Cook County is being so easily dismissed. I understand that brady has proven nothing, but are we all so quick to dismiss corruption in Fraud in the land of Lincoln?”
Voter fraud in Cook County just ain’t what it used to be. Too many folks were prosecuted for it. Pat Fitzgerald would have been only too happy to bring those cases — but things just aren’t the same. There may still be a little bit in some wards — and a little bit outside Cook County — but there’s no evidence at all that it’s a significant continuing problem.
- blogman - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 2:27 pm:
I agree with Mcleaniac. Brady was even doing robocalls in the Kilbride race! That may have lost him some votes. They thought they had won. What facts have they come up with regarding instances of fraud?. Brady is a joke who will probably win another primary,
- reformer - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 2:41 pm:
Excuses are for losers, to quote an old football coach.
If Keats had real evidence of massive vote fraud, he should present it. Otherwise, his allegation doesn’t deserve serious consideration.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 2:57 pm:
===Just two voters per precinct to have selected “Brady” instead of “Quinn”.===
Don’t even make it THAT difficult.
It’s not as though the turnout was 90%, there were loads and loads on non-voters.
A good GOTV would have found 4 voters that didn’t even pull a ballot and got them to vote their way.
No Field Operations made that not only impossible, but not even an OPTION.
All good - FKA -, but keep in mind Brady didn’t need to flip anyone, just vote 2 households of “pluses” that were never identified.
- siriusly - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 3:11 pm:
I thought Keats packed his stuff and moved to Florida.
BTW Mr. Keats: Not only do we not care what you think. Most people don’t even remember who you were.
- Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 3:21 pm:
@Oswego Willy - spot on, as usual.
By the way, I didn’t realize the Oswego Willy vs. 47th Ward Lite Guv debate scenario sparked such an epic tangent on Friday.
After going back through the comments by 47th, soccermom, wordslinger, chicago cynic, arthur andersen, cincinnatus - the whole lot of ya - you can count me in on this road trip.
Ya’ll have my promise to pump the gas and ride quietly on the roof alongside the Karma Machine if we already have a full house in the “SoccerCynicWordMobile”.
Unless, of course, we bring back the Obamalac. No roof, but plenty of style - https://capitolfax.com/wp-mobile.php?p=8312&more=1
Packing now.
- soccermom - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 4:05 pm:
Just renamed my car — the SoccerCynicWordMobile
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 4:12 pm:
On this trip, of course - FKA -, your idea, we need a Promoter on the Casino circuit.
Is this a caravan trip, we getting one big Camper/Cruiser, how is that going to work, and once that is decided, who gets that bill, Daley or Rauner?
No snark, that itinery, pretty sweet way to go about learning downstate for a statewide candidate. Would be a heck of a lot of fun too.
- Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 4:48 pm:
LOL, soccermom… me too!
- Just The Way It Is One - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 5:08 pm:
Cmon Bill–the grapes are SO sour here, almost 3 years later, I could barf on ‘em. You ran a decent Race but lost. Get over it already–or else your credibility as a likely FUture candidate, with THESE kind of adolescent reactions, will start sliding REAL fast down some Sinkhole somewhere Downstate…!
Unfortunately for you, it’s a matter of Public Record now, and have you seen or heard your GOP opponents pounce on your reaction yet?! If not, get ready soon to start hearin’ things like this, “You have to get over the PAST in life when things don’t work out like you planned, put it beHIND you, man up, and move forward. Since Mr. Brady obviously is unable to DO that, Republicans in Illinois really need to look for someone NEW as their Candidate–a forwar-looking candidate who is looking to and excited about the great FUture of Illinois…etc., etc. etc.!”
- Formerly Known As... - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 5:09 pm:
That would make for an amazing trip, as well as an opportunity to see some places I haven’t been in a while.
A chance to reconnect with the grandeur of our state, if you will. So diverse both demographically and geographically.
Willy, I’m actually thinking tour bus. Motley Crue style. Plenty of room to stretch out, wifi, big windows to enjoy the view, and a nice “make-your-own” cannoli station in the kitchen.
As for the bill?
Let’s be generous and let Daley-Rauner split the bill. They can be “co-sponsors” of our tour. Picture it now:
A giant smiling Rauner face on one side and a giant smiling Daley face on the other. Rich riding shotgun as our captain.
On second thought, how about a giant replica of Oscar? A giant mug plastered all over the bus. We could get some fur painted on the sides and little puppy ears sticking off the roof, too.
Holy cow! I think we just found the official mascot and “face” of our tour! Lord knows he’s cuter than most of us. Maybe he can drive the bus too, once he’s done with obedience school.
I think we have a plan…..
Seriously though? I’ve actually copied that thread as a reference for places to check out as I meander thorough the Midwest during work.
- Chicago Cynic - Tuesday, Jun 18, 13 @ 6:22 pm:
Soccer, I think you just insulted 47 with the omission!