* From a press release issued late Friday night…
Governor Pat Quinn today ordered the Illinois Department of Public Health to require a mandatory 21-day home quarantine for high-risk individuals who have had direct contact with an individual infected with the Ebola virus while in Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea.
The mandatory quarantine order includes any high-risk medical personnel who have performed medical services to individuals infected with the Ebola virus. The order will be implemented by local health departments across the state.
Previously these high-risk individuals were subject to a voluntary quarantine.
“This protective measure is too important to be voluntary,” Governor Quinn said. “We must take every step necessary to ensure the people of Illinois are protected from potential exposure to the Ebola virus. While we have no confirmed cases of the Ebola virus in Illinois, we will continue to take every safeguard necessary to protect first responders, healthcare workers and the people of Illinois.”
This directive was issued to every local health department in Illinois earlier today.
* But a similar (although non-home) quarantine didn’t hold up in New Jersey…
An American nurse who has tested negative for Ebola is being released after days in quarantine in New Jersey.
Kaci Hickox, who told CNN the quarantine was violating her rights, is being discharged, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s office said Monday.
New York and New Jersey both followed Illinois’ lead over the weekend and are now allowing for home confinement during the quarantine.
* More…
Florida Gov. Rick Scott has approved an executive order mandating twice-daily 21-day health monitoring for people returning from Ebola-affected Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone. The order, signed Saturday, gives Florida Department of Health authorities the go-ahead to work alongside the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to identify people who have recently returned to Florida from those areas so they can be monitored, the governor’s office said in a news release.
Virginia is following suit. The state is implementing an “active monitoring program” for all returning passengers from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone, “with a special emphasis on returning health care workers,” Virginia governor’s spokesman Brian Coy has said.
* There’s a new federal policy in place, and DC officials think it’s better than the state policy for one big reason…
A top federal health official publicly criticized Christie and Cuomo on Sunday, saying the two states’ quarantine rule could discourage health workers from helping fight Ebola in Africa, which would ultimately endanger the United States.
“I’m concerned of the disincentive for the health care workers,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health.
A federal policy starting Monday requires all travelers coming to the United States from Ebola-affected areas to be actively monitored for 21 days.
Your thoughts?
*** UPDATE *** The governor was asked about the new policy today…
“We definitely, definitely honor all of those heroes, men and women who go forward to help the health of others,” Quinn said. “At the same time, upon their return if they have been directly exposed, it’s just common sense that there be this 21-day period in someone’s home, where they are comfortable, in order to make sure everyone is not affected.”
Quinn emphasized that the home quarantine would allow visitors and is different from keeping someone in a designated site as in New Jersey, which he said was “very wrong.”
The governor said no one was in quarantine as of Monday morning.
- VanillaMan - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 12:47 pm:
One would believe that after witnessing dozens of horrible deaths due to this epidemic, the people returning to the US aren’t afraid that although they took every precaution, feel perfectly fine, they are willing to risk everyone’s lives surrounding them with the disease they saw first hand kill so many.
Quarantining oneself to prevent the very possibility of spreading that disease to others, should be a small price to pay. I find the NJ nurse’s attitude on this to be very selfish and unsympathetic.
- Demoralized - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 12:49 pm:
This has been mishandled from the start. If they want to do this they need a national policy that is consistent and informs everyone what the process will be when they arrive back in the country. You don’t haul some nurse off from the airport and put her in a tent with a bucket for a potty and not give her any information about what the plan is. This implemented without a plan.
If we want to do this then establish a few places in the country where these workers will be flown when they return to the US. They can be monitored there in comfortable conditions. They will know what to expect and can plan accordingly.
The Ebola fears are made worse when government officials act stupid like they did in this case.
- Yankee Dooder - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 12:49 pm:
Good move Quinn. Abundance of caution for high-risk travelers is clearly needed. Ask regular people how they feel about it.
- Sir Reel - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 12:49 pm:
My comment is, politically-motivated directives like this should do wonders for encouraging medical professionals to volunteer to help in this crisis.
Everybody needs to calm down and listen to the experts. (I don’t consider politicians to be experts on this issue; I just expect them to use it to their advantage.)
- Demoralized - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 12:49 pm:
==I find the NJ nurse’s attitude on this to be very selfish and unsympathetic.==
Did you see the conditions they had her in?
- Ron Burgundy - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 12:51 pm:
I tend to err on the side of requiring home confinement. Have to balance the need to protect the public versus the temporary restriction on the freedom of movement of the individual. While much of the hysteria has been overblown, at least one doctor has brought the virus back, and he and an NBC reporter showed a disregard for staying away from public places when left to their own devices. If the providers and reporters exposed to patients don’t take these restrictions seriously, why should anyone else? That said, staying at home is sufficient, not like NJ where the nurse was being kept in a tent or something. As for discouraging people going to Africa to help, I think the really conscientious ones will go anyway and realize that any restrictions on them after they return are for the public good.
- Gooner - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 12:52 pm:
Vanilla Man,
I agree, and yet people who visit Texas keep coming back to IL and feel free to walk among us.
Selfish, isn’t it Vanilla?
Those self-centered Texas visitors should know better.
- MrJM - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 12:52 pm:
“One would believe that after witnessing dozens of horrible deaths due to this epidemic,” that the health-care professionals in question would understand how the disease is and is not transmitted, and base their decisions on that knowledge, instead of on the nebulous fears of those who know only what they’ve been told by the shoutin’ people on the tee-vee.
– MrJM
- Stuff Happens - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 12:56 pm:
Note that the Illinois quarantine is a home quarantine; the one in New Jersey was essentially in a tent with a portable toilet.
As far as her claims about constitutionality, the CDC Web site says:
“States have police power functions to protect the health, safety, and welfare of persons within their borders. To control the spread of disease within their borders, states have laws to enforce the use of isolation and quarantine.”
http://hort.li/1BfB
And then there’s the Illinois Department of Public Health Act:
http://hort.li/1BfC
- Norseman - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 12:58 pm:
Good politics, bad science.
One of the best health prevention measures we can all take is to throughly wash your hands.
- Cadillac - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 12:59 pm:
=== - Gooner - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 12:52 pm:
Vanilla Man,
I agree, and yet people who visit Texas keep coming back to IL and feel free to walk among us.
Selfish, isn’t it Vanilla?
Those self-centered Texas visitors should know better. ===
Right, because people who visit Texas are analogous to medical professionals treating ebola patients in West Africa.
- anon - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:02 pm:
You mean the same thing Obama just told Chris Christie to stop doing? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2808178/Cuomo-Ebola-quarantine-hard-enforce.html
- Dirty Red - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:02 pm:
I am sure The White House that has been in town to campaign for this governor multiple times, and also strongly criticized the quarantines in New York and New Jersey that have since been repealed is just beaming with approval.
- Precinct Captain - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:04 pm:
Right, VanillaMan, despite testing negative twice and having no symptoms, we should lock this nurse up in a tent with a toilet. It’s almost like you have your head in something that is full of…
- Wordslinger - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:05 pm:
VMan, you’ve got it (not Ebola).
What could be more selfish or unsympathetic than volunteering to spend a month in Sierra Leone working with Ebola patients?
Good thing we have your informed wisdom and logic to set things right.
- Walter Mitty - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:08 pm:
Talk to the local health professionals… They are not thrilled that they are left to do what the Feds can. If you don’t have flights from these countries, they won’t be left to figure it out as they go…
- Del Clinkton - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:09 pm:
Here’s a peak Saint Reagan’s news conference in October 1982:
Q: Larry, does the President have any reaction to the announcement — the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, that AIDS is now an epidemic and have over 600 cases?
MR. SPEAKES: What’s AIDS?
Q: Over a third of them have died. It’s known as “gay plague.” (Laughter.) No, it is. I mean it’s a pretty serious thing that one in every three people that get this have died. And I wondered if the President is aware of it?
MR. SPEAKES: I don’t have it. Do you? (Laughter.)
- Demoralized - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:11 pm:
==If you don’t have flights from these countries, they won’t be left to figure it out as they go… ==
What about flights from Texas? It was there. And now New York? It’s there too. Should we just stop all air travel?
- OneMan - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:12 pm:
Ok,
This is really cynical and I will admit that…
Part of me thinks Quinn did this in part to reduce the risk of someone getting it here right before the election and keeping Chicago turnout down because people would be afraid of crowds.
Yeah, that is really cynical I freely admit that.
- Walter Mitty - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:13 pm:
Demoralized… Seriously? Why did they figure this out in every major plague in our existence? You isolate. The Feds refused to do that. It may be too late.
- Brookport Brandon - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:13 pm:
Smart approach Illinois. Smart category of quarantines –high-risk travelers only. The other states must have realiEd they went too far. NJ was too quick out the gate with sloppy and shameful treatment of the lady nurse. Quinn dinged Christy for that. Good on him. People in my family like this and feel safer.
- Demoralized - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:17 pm:
@Walter:
I’d refer you to my prior comments on this thread. You can isolate. Just do it smartly. This wasn’t done smartly. It was half baked and it was painfully evident very little thought went into it.
And, yeah, I was being serious. It’s here now. Where do your ideas for isolation end? Do we close our borders to make sure it doesn’t get to Illinois? Where to you draw the line?
- PublicServant - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:17 pm:
The restriction is fine as long as the state is responsible for reimbursing any lost wages,salary etc that the confined person loses due to their confinement, but it’s a small price to pay, right VMan?
- Anonymous - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:22 pm:
If we ban flights from these countries, we might as well just ban flights. All of them. Because what keeps someone from flying from Sierra Leone to Belgium and then to here?
I do think isolating health care workers and some others until they test negative isn’t a bad idea. Just not the way Jersey did it. Let them go home if possible, but at minimum make them comfortable for as long as the quarantine has to last.
- Federalist - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:23 pm:
“I agree, and yet people who visit Texas keep coming back to IL and feel free to walk among us.
Selfish, isn’t it Vanilla?
Those self-centered Texas visitors should know better.”
Some people, usually those on the far ideological Left, just love to hate Texas. Get over it! It is does not advance the conversation on this issue.
This may or may not be a grave concern. But every precaution should be taken. As far as trusting people, the M.D. who had been to West Africa, (and knew better) certaily did not take many precautions did he? No, he just went around others as if nothing could ever possibly happen.
That is my concern about the traffic still coming into the designated selective airports and the people are to be ‘monitored.’ Would love to know what the real procedure and follow-up will be.
Hope nothing much happens on Ebola and it probably won’t. But ‘probably’ assumes a lot of risk.
- Walter Mitty - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:25 pm:
Demoralized..Got it…It was mismanaged at the start.. Now it’s just patchwork…This too shall pass…
- Wordslinger - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:27 pm:
Disappointing and sad from Quinn. It’s irrational, and I’m guessing he knows it. The order came down on Friday night, right?
But he ain’t going to get beat by an Ebola scare in the current freak-show environment.
Last year in this country, 36,000 people died from the flu. Are we going to lock up everyone who’s been exposed to it til they can prove they ain’t got it?
What are we supposed to be terrified of when this weirdness blows over? Are the Central American kids due for a comeback?
- Birdseed - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:28 pm:
== - PublicServant - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:17 pm:
The restriction is fine as long as the state is responsible for reimbursing any lost wages,salary etc that the confined person loses due to their confinement, but it’s a small price to pay, right VMan? ==
Where do I volunteer? I’ve got a nice cabin out in the woods…
- OurMagician - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:29 pm:
That can’t be the whole quote for the Governor in the update, nothing on the minimum wage…
- Gooner - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:31 pm:
Federalist,
Great non-responsive personal attack there! Yeah, that really advanced your position.
In any case, I have no idea how liberals feel about Texas. I will ask one for you if I run into one.
Personally, I grew up spending summers there. My primary recollection is that large snakes are bad and that TexMex food is very good.
In case, my angry liberal bashing friend, the point that if we are going to be concerned with travel from areas with Ebola we should include Texas, since Texas hospitals have Ebola patients.
Federalist, now that I’ve clarified the point, you can go back to screeching about liberals. Enjoy!
- Yankee Dooder - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:33 pm:
–isolating health care workers and some others until they test negative isn’t a bad idea. Just not the way Jersey did it. Let them go home if possible, but at minimum make them comfortable for as long as the quarantine has to last. –
EXACTLY!
- Wumpus - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:38 pm:
This is still a relatively unknown disease. Maybe selfish was a bad (butthurt) word to use. Should anyone be surprised that they are being quarrantined after treating Ebola victims? Maybe if there was more of a control, there would not be Ebola scares iN OH and on that cruise.
DO they still stamp passports so we could have some kind of understanding if someone left Sierra Leone, travelled to Belgium and then came to the US?
- Del Clinkton - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:40 pm:
I heard from my best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend who heard from this guy who knows this kid who’s going with this girl that anything that goes wrong in this world from now until the end of it is caused by Obama.
(paraphrased from Ferris Bueller, thank you to IMDB).
- Plutocrat03 - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:40 pm:
If CBS reports are true that military returning from Liberia are being quarantined for an expected 21 days, then why is it so whacky for health care workers to do the same?
- Stuff Happens - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:40 pm:
Based on the comments, I’m wondering how many people have actually read the governor’s statement and how many are just spouting knee-jerk Don’t Tread on Me rhetoric.
Do you really think it’s unreasonable to put someone under home quarantine IF THEY HAVE BEEN IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH AN EBOLA PATIENT while in Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea?
Direct contact appears to be:
. touching a dead or living patient while unprotected
. touching bodily fluids of a patient while unprotected
. living with an infected ebola patient
This isn’t about blocking flights or locking every one down. It’s about identifying and monitoring VERY high-risk individuals who have had DIRECT contact with the virus.
- Just Observing - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:41 pm:
=== Part of me thinks Quinn did this in part to reduce the risk of someone getting it here right before the election and keeping Chicago turnout down because people would be afraid of crowds. ===
Why would Quinn want Chicago turnout low? That helps Rauner.
- Just Observing - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:43 pm:
Just curious… How would Illinois enforce this say a quarantined person refused to comply and went about their business? Would National Guard troops be stationed outside with orders to shoot… or would the state have to get an order from a judge to lock them up in a secure facility?
- Responsa - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:50 pm:
The woman in New Jersey has been discharged from the mandatory quarantine. She has not been released out into the general public.
Statement from the NJ Dept. of Health via ABC news:
“After consulting with her, she has requested transport to Maine, and that transport will be arranged via a private carrier not via mass transit or commercial aircraft,” the department said.
Senior officials in the Christie administration said she will be driven in a car and escorted by officials from the state and Doctors Without Borders, the agency the Hickox worked for in West Africa.
“Health officials in Maine have been notified of her arrangements and will make a determination under their own laws on her treatment when she arrives,” the New Jersey statement said.
Also, according to ABC News she will be quarantined/isolated at home in Maine.
I think Gov. Quinn is in sync with the citizens of IL with both his statement and decision on this.
- A guy... - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 1:52 pm:
It’s a more compassionate way to quarantine people. Good on the Governor. Why take any risks when it’s not necessary and would only inconvenience someone who unselfishly decided to try to help? If these are people returning from Liberia who offered healthcare services voluntarily, they should be reimbursed by the State Dept. for the quarantine period. Their kindness shouldn’t cost them.
The fact our policy remains a moving target is very disconcerting. We’ve had weeks now to think about it. Error on the safe side until we get a better handle. Be compassionate to the compassionate.
- Precinct Captain - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:02 pm:
You’re so right, Federalist. The ideological far Right has never used “Chicago,” “New York,” “San Francisco,” or “inner city” as an epithet at all!
- Jorge - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:03 pm:
This move is a joke. While it will play well with the nutters and over reactionaries. The policy enacted makes about as much sense as internment of Americans of Japanese descent in WWII.
- Brookport Brandon - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:10 pm:
Jorge, what do you mean? Looks like the other states are following Illinois on this. Quinn striking the right balance.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:12 pm:
===makes about as much sense as internment of Americans of Japanese descent in WWII.===
That was about what might’ve been in their minds. This is about what could be in their bodies.
- Federalist - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:13 pm:
Precinct Captain,
Very predictable response when that is the best they can come up with.
Of course, the right just hates New York and San Francisco. And if someone had been stupid enough to bring up those cities/states as an excuse to ban travel from those locations I would have noted that as well. So far no one on the right has been stupid enough to make those statements on this issue.
- Wensicia - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:16 pm:
This is pandering to media fueled hysteria. It’s irresponsible for political leaders to further stimulate the panic.
- Responsa - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:17 pm:
Being confined for three weeks in the comfort of your own home with your own bed, big screen TV and pets until the incubation period for a deadly disease safely passes reminds you of those Japanese WWII internment camps? Really, Jorge?
- Gooner - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:18 pm:
Sure Federalist, because when your kind on the extreme right talk about “Africa” it is always with joy.
For some reason, when people on the right start mentioning cutting off travel to Africa, my dog perks up his head almost as if he hears a whistle.
- Mary Sunshine - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:22 pm:
Irrational?? Then why did New York officials scramble like crazy to track down the every move and very possible contact the doctor who was diagnosed with Ebola had? Wouldn’t be a better use of resources to impose a softer, gentler home quarantine like Quinn did than to wait until someone is diagnosed after having been all over the city or state, creating panic and concerns about exposure to everyone who was anywhere that person had been?!? Would it better to wait until someone gets sick and our first responders and other healthcare professionals are put at risk? What’s the alternative? I appreciate the proactive approach.
- John A. Logan - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:23 pm:
Wordlsinger. I appreciate your holier than thou perspective. It helps to reassure the 67% of us that want a travel ban that we were right all along.
- Jorge - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:26 pm:
My intent was to link the two events as being driven by paranoid logic.
- Wordslinger - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:33 pm:
Mary, I think you need a few more question marks and exclamation points to sell it.
John, I ain’t holier than anyone. But I don’t apologize for having brains and balls.
- Del Clinkton - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:33 pm:
Still your more likely to become infected with Gunbola or the Flu, than Ebola.
- Demoralized - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:39 pm:
==It helps to reassure the 67% of us that want a travel ban ==
Because we should make public health decisions based on polls.
- Responsa - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:50 pm:
==Because we should make public health decisions based on polls.==
To those who disagree with Quinn on this, what in your mind is the downside of his action to address high risk persons who’ve had known, recent, direct contact with ebola patients?
- A guy... - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:51 pm:
=== Wordslinger - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 2:33 pm:
Mary, I think you need a few more question marks and exclamation points to sell it.
John, I ain’t holier than anyone. But I don’t apologize for having brains and balls.===
If only they didn’t swap positions every now and then.
- Responsa - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 3:00 pm:
U.S. soldiers returning from duty in Liberia are being placed in isolation and monitored for 21 days apparently.
A Pentagon spokesman calls it “enhanced monitoring.” The soldiers are confined to a building and unable to see their families, Martin reports. The decision made by the Army and applies only to soldiers returning from Liberia. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel will decide whether to make isolation apply to members of all services returning from Liberia.
Martin reports that the soldiers in isolation are in a building that is used as a command headquarters. It has communications - secure communications - so that Gen. Williams and his staff can do work. It also has a gym.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-outbreak-u-s-soldiers-returning-from-liberia-placed-in-isolation-in-italy/
- Earnest - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 3:17 pm:
This all seems very political and not medical. If Ebola were airborne, I could see it. But, it’s transmitted in the same way HIV, HBV, etc. are transmitted. Good time to educate the public on utilizing Universal Precautions.
- Wordslinger - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 3:50 pm:
Responsa, the downside is that you’re locking up American citizens for no reason other than irrational fear.
Geez, I miss my old timers. No scaredy cats there. The whining since 9/11 is unbearable.
Guy, John, VMan, I understand you have no problem taking away the rights of a brave minority of health care workers because of your ignorance.
And I give your fear as much respect as it deserves.
This too shall pass.
What are you all going to be terrified about next week? Have big-brains Rush and Sean clued you in yet? Ebola-infected ISIS fighters walking across the Rio Grande and kissing your sister?
Besides the flu, what’s the deal with children blowing holes in other children with guns in schools? Happens on a regular basis.
Are you guys on that? Seems like right up your alley.
- Responsa - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 4:00 pm:
Just to be clear, Slinger, it was Gov. Quinn who issued the order being discussed on this thread. Not V man or Guy or John or Rush or Sean or me.
- Wordslinger - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 4:13 pm:
Responsa, just to be clear, Gov. Quinn, and Rauner, are pandering to pee-their-pants idiots.
Seriously, these extraordinary actions because of Ebola? In your hierarchy of things to worry about, Ebola is at the top of the list? Why? Because of the TV freak show?
It will be something else next week.
- Sensry deprived - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 4:18 pm:
Gutsy move by Quinn that, from what I gather, was more thoughtful than the other states. Not an irrational overreach, but firm. Strong leadership needed in an era of hyperventilating hysteria. Rauner whiffed on this with a “travel ban” suggestion. Bad move Bruce.
- A guy... - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 5:14 pm:
Let’s see Slinger. We’re on at least our 4th or 5th policy change from the CDC and NIH. It’s been “contained” only to be not so contained with people getting on planes and being in very public places with density. The worst symptoms include violent cases of projectile vomiting and diarrhea. It’s passed through contact with body fluids. It comes on rather suddenly after an incubation period that is signaled through high fever first. That’s what I’ve been seeing and reading. Healthcare workers contracted it after not having enough protection. We live in a city with the world’s busiest airport (depending on the month- always in the top 3) This would be an area that should exercise some extra caution without creating a panic. I don’t sense panic out there, do you?
I remember sending kids to college when meningitis was becoming a problem. We insisted on shots for the kids…after of course peeing in my pants. I still dropped them off at school with an extra little bit of caution.
That’s all the Governor is doing- adding a reasonable layer of caution. Why’s that bug you? People in our area of the state and especially in the city experience all manners of public transit and communal closeness leading to rapid spread of lesser viruses.
Take a chill pill man. At least your anger today is isolated.
- Wordslinger - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 7:25 pm:
Guy, you’re one of those “conservatives” who has no problem locking people up out of ignorance so you wont be so scared for a few minutes.
It’s no surprise that the one time you agree with Quinn is when he panders to ignorance a week before the election. You’re right in the wheelhouse.
What will it be next week? You guys are always scared of something.
Get a flu shot so you don’t make people around you sick. Flu is a real killer in this country.
Don’t want to have to lock you up.
- RetiredStateEmployee - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 9:01 pm:
Really disappointing discussion. Lots of emotion, only a minority of rational thought. When it comes to science, most are in the dark. Fear is easy, knowledge is hard. I fear that because of ignorance, we will promulgate an epidemic in Africa that we will not be able to be contained because we refuse to act to stop it. There are people in Connecticut that have been in isolation for 10 days and have tested to be ebola free and the governor there still won’t let them go. This is not protecting us, this will just make it worst. Now I’m sad.
- VanillaMan - Monday, Oct 27, 14 @ 10:26 pm:
My comment wasn’t political. Attempts to twist it into being political only reflect negatively on those feeling a need to twist everything into being political.
Err on the side of life. Doctors and nurses should be the first to recognize that.