* From a union leader…
Another big union turnout (350-500 people) and another local government postpones consideration of Rauner’s turnaround agenda, this time in Livingston Co. Rauner got 66% of the vote in Livingston in November.
A pic…
* From the governor’s office…
Hi, Rich –
I have attached the Westville resolution as promised.
And you can add Winthrop Harbor and Fayette County to the list of communities that have passed the resolution.
Thanks,
ck
Westville passed an unedited Rauner resolution.
Winthrop Harbor, pop. 6,742.
Fayette County, pop. 22,140.
*** UPDATE *** No “Hi Rich” this afternoon?…
Village of Thomson passed the resolution. It’s attached.
ck
Pop. 590.
- Anon - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:04 am:
What was the percentage of union households that voted for Governor Rauner over Pat Quinn? I think it was about 42%. Reap what you sew.
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:10 am:
Is it more embarassing to have to send these emails to Rich for the Governor’s Office, or write them, pretending, it’s relevant.
Sonny Corleone got some of his “buttons” to get 2…TWO…more munis to pass a useless resolution.
Dear “Governor Cor-Lee-Own-Eee”,
You need to go to your Dad’s playbook, make them offers they can’t refuse. Some towns may not be bandleaders. Yeah, I heard about that.
Signed,
Embarrased for Your Press Shop
- Anonin' - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:11 am:
Another 100+ hours of wasted staff time that will not change a vote in the GA
- TGS - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:13 am:
I get that labor is trying to coin these as “big turnouts,” afterall, any crowd more than three people at a local or rural county board meeting is beyond the norm. I just think its odd that when a county or muni of 20,000 plus people discusses an ordinance, 50 union guys at the board meeting is advertised by labor like its some massive opposition.
- toborM - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:14 am:
More than one Rauner vote in that crowd.
- Stones - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:15 am:
Agreed these announcements are just plain silly. Doesn’t make a shred of difference one way or another.
I didn’t care for PQ or Bruce Rauner. So far this Governor has been another in a long line of embarrassments.
- Jorge - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:15 am:
When Fayette County speaks, Illinois listens prior to 1840.
- John A Logan - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:17 am:
Wonder why he isn’t just trying to pass it through the general assembly in Springfield? /snark
- MrJM - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:22 am:
“Agreed these announcements are just plain silly.”
Reminds me of the Pentagon’s daily body-count tallies during Vietnam — it’s a metric but is it the metric that will determine the outcome of the conflict?
– MrJM
- Fayette County - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:23 am:
The local radio station said only a voice vote was taken and also said it sounded as if the vote was even. I don’t know why a roll call was not done. But the Fayette county board is two to one republican which makes an even voice vote seem odd. No surprise with the outcome. Rauner’s downstate coordinator lives here and I’m sure they wanted to make sure they had this county down as one that passed the resolution.
- A guy - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:26 am:
To be fair, who started the business of tallying up the yeses and noes. Seems I remember reading here folks asking Rich to do so. I too think it’s a somewhat silly exercise to watch some goofy tote board. Just as silly as having what amounts to a “union meeting” in village and town halls. The perception of this is not going Labor’s way. The mailing is even more embarrassing. Maybe it’s working somewhere, but it sure isn’t in my neck of the woods in North DuPage. The unions are not evangelizing anyone outside of their present ranks. Someone needs to start talking to someone before High Noon.
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:32 am:
Food for thought…
Those working for Rauner, wanting to “make a difference” and “shake up Springfield” and “bring back Illinois” and … saddled … with this useless exercise, or “reporting” on the progress of this useless exercise, or worse, having to pretend this useless exercise matters… when do you realize… this is just a prop having nothing to do with making Illinois better?
- Jocko - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:34 am:
Can someone please (PLEASE!) tell Rauner that this is the municipal equivalent of a teenage abstinence pledge?
If he’s expecting a groundswell of support, like making MLK a national holiday, he’s sorely mistaken.
- Arsenal - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:34 am:
“The perception of this is not going Labor’s way.”
Given that the GA isn’t going to move on the issue and that the Governor’s popularity has dropped, I’m sure Labor is fine with how this is playing out regardless of what you think “the perception” is.
- Arsenal - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:38 am:
“How this is playing out” is limited solely to the RTWFL conflict in the GA. Labor should be legitimately nervous about the fair share suit in federal court and contract negotiations (although contract negotiations have a very simple way for labor to “win”, they just may not be able to get over themselves enough to take it).
- Michelle Flaherty - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:39 am:
Won’t be long before he’s secured support from 1 percent of Illinoisans. And that’s been the goal all along. It’s his base.
- A guy - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:40 am:
I bet they’re not Ars. They’re sure not talking or acting like they’re “fine” with how this is playing out.
- chi - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:42 am:
Like finely aged wines, Rauner prefers labor laws from the 1860’s rather than the 1960’s.
But…but people will line up for $7.25/hour jobs! People also will line up in bread lines when there’s no food. It doesn’t mean it’s a good situation.
If Company A makes $1 million a year in profit, and pays the majority of it’s workers $7.25 an hour, I think those workers should have more bargaining power in order to grab a bigger piece of the pie. Rauner thinks they should go pound sand.
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:43 am:
===The perception of this is not going Labor’s way. The mailing is even more embarrassing.===
Unless Rauner wins 100% of every town, township, city, or county, the perception is that people are rejecting Rauner.
Advice from a legislator; never put to a vote anything unless the outcome you want will be achieved.
Every Rauner “loss” strengthens the resolve of the Unions, and as said above, hasn’t moved a single member of the General Assembly. No member has come out and said “I am now supporting Rauner’s Plan because…”
Nope.
All this has done is have embarassingly pathetic emails listing “victories” of non-binding resolutions meaning… nothing.
“The perception of this is not going Labor’s way.”
Good luck with that.
- Mama - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:48 am:
Why does Rauner need “secured support from 1 percent of Illinoisans.”?
- Arsenal - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:49 am:
“They’re sure not talking or acting like they’re “fine” with how this is playing out.”
I don’t see how they’re not. They’re active and engaged in the issue, as they should be, but I don’t detect any of the typical signs of panic you see when political actors know they’re losing on an issue. And anyway, objectively, labor isn’t losing on this issue. The GA isn’t going to adopt RTWFL, and the Governor does not have the political might to make the GA pay for that.
Again, fair share and contract negotiations are different issues in different venues. But I neither see how labor is losing this issue, nor evidence that it *thinks* its losing this one.
- MrJM - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:50 am:
guy: “The unions are not evangelizing anyone outside of their present ranks.”
Miller: “Over a quarter of fair share fee payers joined the union a month after the Rauner EO.” https://capitolfax.com/2015/04/13/afscmes-lynch-rauner-has-a-darth-vader-destruction-fantasy-about-unions/#comment-11935195
– MrJM
- Ducky LaMoore - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:53 am:
Some great victories there, Rauny. Nothing like lame-duck boards in podunk to really show some strength.
- Michelle Flaherty - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:53 am:
Mama, Governor Rauner is a 1 percenter.
It’s a joke, snark, sarcasm equating his rather miniscule rate of support with the rather elite echelon in which his falls personally. (1 percent)
- Arsenal - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:54 am:
“Unless Rauner wins 100% of every town, township, city, or county, the perception is that people are rejecting Rauner.”
And at the next City Council, when 1/3 of the state doesn’t just vote down the Governor’s proposal, but votes FOR a resolution slamming it, all the behest of the Governor’s drinking buddy, that perception is going to get quite the boost.
- Anon - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 10:03 am:
It may be time for Team Rauner to start hitting up some highschool student council meetings and see what they think.
- Politix - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 10:04 am:
===Labor should be legitimately nervous about the fair share suit in federal court and contract negotiations (although contract negotiations have a very simple way for labor to “win”, they just may not be able to get over themselves enough to take it).===
Bruce?
- Jack Stephens - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 10:05 am:
“Right to Work” is a lie like “Religious Freedom”. These are marketing slogans. Please quit using them.
Don’t discount the big game….which is what Bruce is playing. By getting these small towns to vote for this, but do NOT understand what they are supporting it becomes an us vs them scenario.
This needs to be stopped and Bruce N Taffy need to
Go back to their previous jobs as pizza parlor managers.
- Politix - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 10:07 am:
A packed room is impressive, but the authenticity is questionable if it’s the same bunch traveling from town to town.
- Golfman-r - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 10:16 am:
My wife and I had a family meeting last night and for our household we voted down the turnaround agenda. I’m a superstitious man and if some unlucky accident should befall my wife, then I am going to blame some of the people on this blog
- Amalia - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 10:16 am:
I imagine a bunker with maps with colored in municipalities and counties as Rauner’s fantasy is built.
- Arsenal - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 10:16 am:
“Bruce?”
Ha!
I certainly don’t *want* labor to lose the fair share suit, but if it makes it to SCOTUS, given the Harris decision, it’s at best a Pick ‘Em.
As for contract negotiations…let’s first stipulate that I have no real idea how they’re going, besides the fact that labor wouldn’t be leaking stuff if they were happy with it. But if an issue comes up that they can’t resolve through negotiation, labor can win the subsequent political value by forcing the Governor to lock them out, NOT striking. Can they hold off on a strike, given that they already (and understandably) feel unfairly targeted? I don’t know, I don’t know internal union politics.
That’s all I mean.
“but the authenticity is questionable if it’s the same bunch traveling from town to town.”
Do we know that they are? Given people’s difficulty in attending meetings of their own local government and the unions’ inability to get very good notice, I have my doubts.
- Shemp - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 10:17 am:
And the condensation of podunk is part of the problem. As a resident of “Podunk,” I am telling you that the same rules are harder here. Podunkville and Podunk county don’t have the same cost of living as do Cosmopolitan Village and Metro City, yet the IDOL prevailing wages hit Podunk nearly the same, if not harder than the more populous areas. We don’t have the same number of contractors to bid projects out. We have lost our smaller, local family contractors who didn’t have the ability to keep up with requirements for contracting like apprenticeship requirements. Podunk doesn’t have the wide tax bases to draw from. And because the rules have squeezed many of our small time contractors away, or the family business closes or sells out because the headaches aren’t worth it to the kids, much of our work now gets done by out of town “folks.”
Podunk is still ~20% of the State. If ya’ll want to write us off, or want to think Podunk is no different than Metro City, you’re as ignorant as those you are complainin’ about. I do gots me a couple of them thar college degrees and nones of ‘em gots Phoenix or Kaplan writin’ on ‘em.
- Arsenal - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 10:22 am:
“And the condensation of podunk is part of the problem. ”
I’m not sure the condensation is that widespread, CapFax commenters aside (and we’re clearly a unique bunch). Certainly, the unions are taking Podunk County and Podunkville seriously.
- walker - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 10:31 am:
This works for Rauner.
Hard to see how it’ll work for Illinois.
- A guy - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 10:55 am:
=== MrJM - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 9:50 am:
guy: “The unions are not evangelizing anyone outside of their present ranks.”
Miller: “Over a quarter of fair share fee payers joined the union a month after the Rauner EO.” https://capitolfax.com/2015/04/13/afscmes-lynch-rauner-has-a-darth-vader-destruction-fantasy-about-unions/#comment-11935195
– MrJM===
Dude, does that really qualify as “outside their ranks for you” If it does, we disagree, but point taken.
Willy, We’ll see. Rauner’s effort is very much outside the members of the GA now. Whether you agree with the strategy or not, that’s the playing field he’s operating on. Of course, it still all ends on the floor of the chamber, but those folks report to the folks back home. Too early to count. Too early to predict anything. But, (and this is for Ars too), if you don’t think that Labor is concerned about where they are in this process, you’re kidding yourself. There needs to be some socializing going on between those camps pretty soon or this does go to an “All in” Texas Hold ‘em. That’s not good politics for anyone. Winner take all is not where this needs to go.
- Wordslinger - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 11:01 am:
Michelle going yard today like Kris Bryant!
Love that ck. So friendly and humble. I’ll say it again, what’s a sweetheart like that doing working for Indiana Rauner in the Temple of Doom?
- walker - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 11:16 am:
Michelle and Word: Loved your comments when I first read them. Today too.
- PublicServant - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 11:36 am:
The He-man woman-haters club is discussing the resolution tonight, right after the finish discussing expanding their membership to women.
- Wordslinger - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 11:39 am:
PS, government like Alfalfa and Spanky up in a treehouse.
- BlameBruceRauner - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 12:09 pm:
Wordslinger-Hold off on the Bryant comparisons/comments till he’s played one game. I know you Cubby Fans are all excited, but temper the excitement, just a little. A little note from a red bird
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 3:41 pm:
===*** UPDATE *** No “Hi Rich” this afternoon?…===
LOL!
===Village of Thomson passed the resolution. It’s attached.
ck===
No “thanks” either, lol.
It’s gotta be brutal sendibg these Dopey emails pertaining to nothing of governing significance.
At least a “thanks” woulda been ok…
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 3:57 pm:
===Pop. 590===
With a decisive win like that, it’s just a shame the Rauner Press Shop waited so late to email…
“No this is really important, we need to tout these…”
It has to be deflating, thinking or asking, “so, do I send this email?”.
- Upon Further Review - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 4:00 pm:
It was proclaimed at the state meeting of the IEA that Governor Rauner is fond of saying “Don’t quote me” and “I don’t want to read about this discussion in tomorrow’s Capitol Fax!”
Can you confirm or deny the report Rich?
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 4:51 pm:
===Willy, We’ll see. Rauner’s effort is very much outside the members of the GA now. ===
That’s why its a waste. It’s 60, it’s 30… This is a waste of time.
===Whether you agree with the strategy or not, that’s the playing field he’s operating on===
The game is the 23 Dems needed to pass things, not Dopey emails from the Press Shop feigning work-product rekevance.
===Of course, it still all ends on the floor of the chamber, but those folks report to the folks back home. Too early to count===
lol, so you agree its the GA. If that’s the case, still going to be well below 60, well below 30. The district’s are micro, Rauner thinks macro beats down micro. News flash; all politics is local, these aren’t local issues, they are resolutions of irrelevance.
===That’s not good politics for anyone. Winner take all is not where this needs to go.===
Rauner can’t get anti-Union legislation passed in the GA. That’s real, and Rauner knows it. This exercise ain’t helping in the GA. Not one bit.
===Too early to predict anything.===
Rauner won’t win every governing body, no anti-Union bill will get to Rauner’s desk. Actually, pretty easy to predict.
===But, (and this is for Ars too), if you don’t think that Labor is concerned about where they are in this process, you’re kidding yourself.===
They are doing what needs to be done; keep Rauner under 100%, and keep Rauner away from 60 and 30. They seem to be “there”
===There needs to be some socializing going on between those camps pretty soon or this does go to an “All in” Texas Hold ‘em.===
Rauner hates unions, demands RTW Zones, and demands resolutions touting it. Fine. Unions aren’t facing 60 and 30 on none of it. Really nothing to discuss…
…except why no “Hi Rich” this afternoon… LOL.
It’s a losing exercise - A Guy -, I just feel embarrassed for the Dopiness that are these email updates. Well, maybe not, they are comically irrelevant, so I enjoy that.
- A guy - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 5:04 pm:
===…except why no “Hi Rich” this afternoon… LOL.===
I don’t know what this means.
On the rest, we have plenty of common ground. 60/30 is an end game. Something will get there. It really has to. We both know that. The best metaphor I can come up with this late on a Friday is that the field is now a 100 yard field instead of 50. Labor’s nervous Willy. They should be. They aren’t doing what they need to do. They could be doing other things that would be more productive. It’s Macro. It’s Micro. It’s all over the board. Don’t underestimate anyone is the best lesson here.
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 5:12 pm:
===They could be doing other things that would be more productive.===
That should be Rauner. Rauner should be doing other things, this won’t get him to 60 or 30, and the micro that the Dems understand better, now have an even more reason to got 3-4 deep in the precincts, helping House and Senate members.
The Senate isn’t going to flip, the House will most likely stay a solid majority, given this playbook.
Macro hating on Unions and RTW Zones in micro districs is not flipping votes, for sure, and not likely the main catalyst to flip seats in 2016z
- CEA - Friday, Apr 17, 15 @ 8:01 pm:
I consider myself fairly well versed in Illinois geography, but I have to give the Governor credit where credit is due: following the list of burghs which have approved the turnaround resolution has definitely added new territory to my mental map.