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Friday, Jun 19, 2015 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Hyperpartisan Democrats have been occasionally suggesting in comments that Gov. Rauner be recalled by voters. We’ve had even more today, so I feel I need to “front page” this topic.

Like all hyperpartisans, these recall enthusiasts are clueless.

* From the Illinois Constitution, with emphasis added…

The recall of the Governor may be proposed by a petition signed by a number of electors equal in number to at least 15% of the total votes cast for Governor in the preceding gubernatorial election, with at least 100 signatures from each of at least 25 separate counties.

15 percent of 3,627,690 total votes cast last year would be 544,154 signatures. That’s a whole lot, not to mention the 25 county requirement.

* But before you can even pass a petition you’ll need an affidavit…

A petition shall have been signed by the petitioning electors not more than 150 days after an affidavit has been filed with the State Board of Elections providing notice of intent to circulate a petition to recall the Governor. The affidavit may be filed no sooner than 6 months after the beginning of the Governor’s term of office. The affidavit shall have been signed by the proponent of the recall petition, at least 20 members of the House of Representatives, and at least 10 members of the Senate, with no more than half of the signatures of members of each chamber from the same established political party.

Can anybody out there name 10 House Republicans and 5 Senate Republicans who would sign such an affidavit?

Ain’t. Gonna. Happen.

* Don’t clog up our comment section here with your goofy recall rants. You’ll be banned for life and forced to flee to a newspaper website, where nobody cares.

That is all.

/rant

77 Comments

- Under Further Review - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:37 pm:
Bravo!

- ryan - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:38 pm:
Great. You left the door open for impeachment…

- Oswego Willy - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:39 pm:
Amen

- 47th Ward - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:40 pm:
I have two words for those who think Rauner should be recalled or impeached:

Evelyn Sanguinetti.

My personal hope is that neither Madigan nor Cullerton get so tough on him that he decides to quit mid-term.

- Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:40 pm:
LOL, ryan!

Actually “impeach” is a banned word here. I had to manually approve your comment (and 47th’s above). So, no door was left open.

“Recall” isn’t an easy word to ban because it’s so often used in other contexts. Too much work freeing up too many comments from the holding pen.

- West Side the Best Side - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:42 pm:
The amendment relating to recall of the governor was written in such a way that Illinois can say we have a procedure to recall the governor. That’s the theory. The practice is the way it was written is that it will never happen. If that many members of the GA would sign the affidavit that governor is probably going to get impeached before the voters get a shot at recall.

- The Dude Abides - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:43 pm:
Agree Rich, I’ve told people before who have brought this up that things are going to have to get a whole lot worse than they are now before you can get the required number of GOP signatures to get a recall. These Democrats need to take a deep breath.

- zonz - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:44 pm:
what are the banned words - is there a link?

- Cassandra - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:45 pm:
Also irrational, as the Dems should be just thrilled that the evil mogul Rauner’s there. Did they want to take all the blame for a resolution of the state’s budget mess. Cuts and tax increases-no matter what percentage of which, that’s going to generate some, er, resentment on the part of voters. Nice to have an evil mogul there to take at least some of the blame for the pain.

- Oswego Willy - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:47 pm:
lol, Slip and Sue, the insurance policy.

My fear is that Gov. Rauner will be a prolific fundraising bundler for the GOP Nominee that if the Republican does win, a Cabinet spot is offered, or even sweeter for a retired multi-millionaire, be offered an Ambassadorship (*cough* paid vacation) to some incredible country with no worry of actual work (Switzerland for one).

Then, like the hedge funder he is, Rsuber cuts his loses, gets a new title, and we get…

Oh, man…

- West Side the Best Side - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:47 pm:
Sorry about using a banned word. Wasn’t applying it to any particular person, just in general. Didn’t mean to be a nope.

- ryan - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:47 pm:
@47th - Agreed. BVR quitting to step up to a federal post (or campaign??!!) would not be cool.

- Just Me - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:49 pm:
(like button)

- 47th Ward - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:49 pm:
===(Switzerland for one)===

So he can spend more time with his money?

- ryan - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:50 pm:
@Willy - That’s my fear. It’s a graceful exit, so it’s not like he’s “quitting”.

- Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:50 pm:
===what are the banned words===

Use common sense and decency and you won’t ever have to wonder about such a thing.

- me too - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:50 pm:
The banned word is the reason for Sue. Her purpose is to be a worse option than Rauner. Thought we all knew that lol

- Oswego Willy - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:51 pm:
- 47th Ward -, I set ‘em up, you knock them down.

That’s… how we play the game. lol

- Oswego Willy - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:54 pm:
- ryan -, the governor “have another calling”, you know, to serve his country.

I just got misty-eyed.

- Anon. - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:54 pm:
==with no more than half of the signatures of members of each chamber from the same established political party==

So if the GOP membership sinks much lower in either chamber, the chances of recall will fall from “winning the lottery 5 times in a row” range to “zero.”

- Qui Tam - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:55 pm:
===what are the banned words===

“Use common sense and decency and you won’t ever have to wonder about such a thing. ”

Please consider banning “job creators” and “reform”.
They’re abused to the point of indecency.

- not so simple - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:56 pm:
Since we are now in permanent campaign mode, if you want a change you should recruit an opposing Gov candidate and start the campaign now. I’m thinking Doc Walls but if you favor another candidate, get them to commit and start campaigning. How much does it cost to issue a press release every day? Seriously.

- Oswego Willy - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:57 pm:
The over/under on any, I do mean any, GOP member signing on to such an affidavit is “half”, meaning the “under” is zero.

Here’s a hint, take the “under”

- illinifan - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:58 pm:
what a waste of time even thinking about recall…. time spent on this would be better used finding a way to compromise. This has hit the official crazy zone.

- Kippax Blue - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 1:59 pm:
===what are the banned words===

Semprini

- Skeptic - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:02 pm:
The bigger concern to me would be if there were one and he survived … he’d truly be a Scott Walker clone. Like OW always says, don’t ask for a vote unless you’re certain of the outcome.

- Anonymous - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:11 pm:
You’re f@$!in tellin me we can’t talk about imp@!$hin or rec!%lin this guy? No fun.

- Snucka - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:17 pm:
So you’re saying there’s a chance?

- Politix - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:17 pm:
Say [banned word] and you’re gonna have a f%!@#in problem.

- Call me Naive - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:17 pm:
Pretty harsh stance, Rich.

I’ll go back to my online newspapers. Do not need to be bashed for speaking my mind.

Thought you were cool for awhile. I guess I am worng.

Ban me, could care less at this point.

- Jack Stephens - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:19 pm:
Rich,

Seriously….what if we find out that Bruce tried to sell a Senate seat or something else dastardly. I’m assuming the “R” word is an appropriate remedy.

I’m NOT being flippant here.

- Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:20 pm:
===Ban me, could care less at this point.===

Don’t let the door hit you…

- Oswego Willy - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:21 pm:
- Jack Stephens -,

With respect.

Did Rauner? Did he?

Has Rauner even remotely put into play 5 GOP state Senators AND… 10 GOP state Representatives?

Even 1?

That seems to be the point.

- VanillaMan - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:23 pm:
To All The Stuff I’ve Posted Before - Nelson, enhanced by VanillaMan

To all the stuff I’ve posted before
Half of it, a painful bore
I’m glad its off my chest
Oft told, to give it a rest
To all the stuff I’ve posted before

To all the crap I once believed
I’ll just confess, I’d been deceived
I thought I knew the truth
But it was just my youth
To all the crap I once believed

The winds of change in this windy state
Sometimes blows hot and full of hate
You’d think that Chicago was used to it
So I found it odd, when I was told to quit

To all the songs that I enhance
Each Friday when I get a chance
No matter how clever they are
Some say I go too far
But CapFax folks like to dance!

To Rich Miller who cares for us
When we fight, and when we fuss
He’ll always be in our hearts
Even when we tears us apart
We’ve felt his spankings when we’re not smart!

- MrJM - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:23 pm:
“You’ll be banned for life and forced to flee to a newspaper website, where nobody cares.”

And now I can cross “snort iced-coffee up into my sinuses” off of my bucket list…

– MrJM

- A Jack - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:24 pm:
Obi-wan Madigan, you are our one and only hope.

- simplequestion - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:28 pm:
Can’t an enterprising legislator change this cumbersome law, so that we can “R-word” Rauner?

- Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:28 pm:
===legislator change this cumbersome law===

It’s the constitution, not simply a law.

Quit your whining.

- Kankakee Jimmy - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:29 pm:
Recall Mike Madigan?

- Oswego Willy - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:32 pm:
===Recall Mike Madigan?===

No! I dont have the distributing rights for mugs and t-shirts yet…

- RNUG - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:33 pm:
== Ban me, could care less at this point. ==

- Call me Naive -

If you come here to comment, Rich expects you to:

(a) have done a bit of reading / research so

(b) you know what you are talking about so

(c) you can present a logical position.

That’s just being an informed citizen.

- A modest proposal - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:33 pm:
-don’t let the door hit you-

I’m betting he is in a cubicle that doesn’t have a door…

- Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:34 pm:
===I’m betting ===

You’re probably right.

- uptown progressive - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:34 pm:
Thank you, Rich. I despise most everything the Governor stands for and has done since he was elected - but he was elected. It is worth noting that some people in Wisconsin who opposed Scott Walker still refused to vote re-call.

- Politix - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:36 pm:
Post in this thread and you are 4.7% more likely to be banned.

- Careful what you wish for... - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:36 pm:
=Don’t let the door hit you…=

Pretty sure I had that exact comment (justifiably) removed on 1/12/2015. Lesson learned: Context matters…

- ryan - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:46 pm:
Not to hijack the thread, but the idea of a recall has never sat well with me. We get the leaders we deserve. We get the opportunity to recall a governor every four years. In the event of true malfeasance, there is already a process in place to deal with it. One that is arguably much more likely to succeed.

- newbie - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:46 pm:
Wasn’t recall the best thing that ever happened to Scott Walker? Would Rauner get the same push?

- Jake From Elwood - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:48 pm:
One wonders how many commenters have been banned here over the years. Might make a nice parlor bet.

- Liandro - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:49 pm:
I’d be curious to see the list of banned words, too.

- DPGumby - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:51 pm:
Hmm…a recall amendment for the recall amendment that would include both gov and lite gov. the possibilities are endless…

- Don't censor me, bro! - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:55 pm:
@Rich Miller

What makes you think you have the right to censor comments?

You are acting like a spoiled child.

Honest disagreement is an adult skill you need to practice.

- HangingOn - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 2:55 pm:
I had this dream (nightmare?) the other night that Donald Trump announced he selected Rauner as his running mate. And then Rauner suddenly had the same hair as Trump.

- Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:01 pm:
===What makes you think you have the right to censor comments?===

Because I own this blog.

Lock, stock and barrel.

- Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:03 pm:
===Honest disagreement is an adult skill===

Actually, it’s “informed disagreement.” A trait you most assuredly lack.

- Amalia - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:05 pm:
Governor Sanguinetti….oh hell no.

- Skeptic - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:10 pm:
“Don’t censor me, bro!” And no, he’s not violating the First Amendment, so don’t even go there.

- Mason born - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:10 pm:
How dare you Rich Miller censore comments on your own personal intellectual property!!! Don’t you know this is ‘Merica!! We all have the right to say stupid stuff! /S

- John Boch - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:17 pm:
Rauner must be really irritating some people.

Why do I think he’s only just begun to aggravate people?

Even though I don’t always agree with your politics, Rich, your analysis is usually pretty spot on.

Thanks for that. It’s what keeps me coming back.

John

- Arthur Andersen - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:19 pm:
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- Don't censor me, bro! - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:21 pm:
Rich Miller is a bootlicking censor…wipe the lickspittle from your drooling lips?

- ah HA - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:25 pm:
Thank you for laying out the specifics. I wasn’t sure what was required for such a legal/legislative action.

- Demoralized - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:26 pm:
==I’d be curious to see the list of banned words==

I know at least 7. George Carlin told me about them.

- Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:26 pm:
===a bootlicking censor===

The “adult” in the room, ladies and gentlemen.

lol

- walker - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:27 pm:
==That is all.==

Rich’s own last line should have sufficed for all commenters.

- Oswego Willy - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:27 pm:
Rich Miller doesn’t ban people.

People ban themselves… by their own words.

If you don’t understand that simplicity, I can’t help you.

- Norseman - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:30 pm:
AA comes up with another good idea!

- Politix - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:32 pm:
For awhile I thought Sanddack was a banned word due to the number of deleted posts I’ve experienced, but no.

- The Unknown Poster - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:36 pm:
===Please consider banning “job creators” and “reform”.
They’re abused to the point of indecency.===

You could add “phoney” to that list as well.

- Try-4-Truth - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:37 pm:
- Don’t censor me, bro! - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:21 pm:

Rich Miller is a bootlicking censor…wipe the lickspittle from your drooling lips?

This, here is why I can’t stand that the national political attitudes have invaded Illinois.

An Illinois Rep. was never quite like a national Rep. Conversely, an Illinois Dem. was never quite like a national Dem. MJM is more fiscally conservative than most national R’s. George Ryan got rid of the death penalty.

This tea-party nonsense is destroying Illinois politics. Compromise and horse-trading was an art form in this state forever. Blago broke the rules and he’s gone. Quinn never understood it and he’s gone. I hope Rauner learns real soon how it works, cause he is tearing at the very fabric of what Illinois politics always were.

Hey, I have an idea, let’s be Indiana everybody. No thank you. If I wanted to be irrelevant, I’d move to Indiana. STOP IT PEOPLE!!!

- Skeptic - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:38 pm:
“I’m betting he is in a cubicle that doesn’t have a door…” although he might have some yellow tape on the floor to indicate where the door will be once they get around to building his office, right?

- Wordslinger - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:39 pm:
I’d put “turnaround agenda” up there with “recall” in the land of pipe dreams for the partisanly concussed.

Seriously, five minutes of reading about either should be enough to move on and get real.

- Lakefront Liberal - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:40 pm:
You mean our MoveOn.org petition won’t be enough to recall the governor? But we have so many signatures! Some are even from Illinois!!! /snark (I may be a liberal but even I know that a recall is not a viable idea.)

- Rich Miller - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:45 pm:
===Post in this thread and you are 4.7% more likely to be banned. ===

lol

That’s not too far off the mark. This post has smoked some serious tinfoil hatters outta the woodwork.

They gone.

- illinoised - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:48 pm:
My wife wants to know the rules for recalling me.

- Politix - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 3:53 pm:
I could see it simmering.

- Mason born - Friday, Jun 19, 15 @ 4:00 pm:
=That’s not too far off the mark. This post has smoked some serious tinfoil hatters outta the woodwork.They gone.=

That’s kind of u Rich now they can work on that affidavit that the rest of us are too dumb to realize is possible.

Btw. Thanks for the hard work to make such a great product.

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