Emanuel fires back
Friday, Aug 7, 2015 - Posted by Rich Miller
* Yesterday, the governor basically accused Mayor Rahm Emanuel and his school chief Forrest Claypool of double-dealing. In private, they agree with his radical collective bargaining “reforms,” the governor claimed. In public, they deny agreeing to it.
Mayor Emanuel essentially dodged the allegation last night on “Chicago Tonight.” But he did have this advice…
“I asked the Speaker and then Gov. Quinn and President Cullerton, that I ran on an effort to make sure our children have the full school day, the full school year, no longer the shortest school day and the shortest school year. We couldn’t make progress, work with me so that we should not have to negotiate that in a contract.
“We worked on it, got it done.”
[Cross talk, including a question about how Gov. Rauner wants a bill that applies statewide.]
“Then work with the legislative leaders on a bill to do that, not try to hold the children of the City of Chicago hostage, not try to hold parents who rely on daycare hostage.”
* Sun-Times…
During a Thursday evening appearance on WTTW’s “Chicago Tonight,” Emanuel said Rauner’s “finger-pointing and name-calling” are not the way to get results. And the mayor expressed frustration over Rauner’s tactics.
“Two weeks ago the governor said that with me and John Cullerton, he’d get a deal already, and now I’m a problem this week.”
When asked if Rauner was trying to get Emanuel to turn on Madigan, Emanuel said: “That’s not going to be a successful effort.”
* More from Reboot…
The Chicago Public Schools pension provision in Cullerton’s bill is designed to offset state funding of teacher pensions granted to every school district in Illinois except Chicago. Emanuel said Rauner’s opposition to the bill amounts to holding Chicago students hostage while trying to squeeze concessions on politically unpopular concepts like right-to-work laws.
“Don’t use it as a pawn to get your agenda where people have hard feelings about it,” Emanuel said.
Emanuel said the governor needs to look at what’s in the bill, not what’s missing, and use it as a starting point for his agenda.
“I say to the governor, having worked for two presidents and as mayor, there’s a way to get some of the things you want done,” Emanuel said. “My point is, rather than try to turn one person against the other, John Cullerton has a bill that addresses two years’ worth of property tax freeze. Let’s work on that product. It also addresses my needs, it addresses some of the Republicans in the suburbs’ needs. There’s a real bill there.”
* Go watch the whole interview.
- Wordslinger - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:00 pm:
Once again, someone is pointing out to the governor his out, his “victory,” is the property tax bill.
- Formerly Known As... - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:04 pm:
==Mayor Emanuel essentially dodged the allegation==
Which says more than any of the words he used.
- Precinct Captain - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:06 pm:
==- Wordslinger - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:00 pm:==
Blinded by his ideology, how could anyone expect the governor to notice it, even if they point it out? It’s like being colorblind.
- OneMan - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:06 pm:
Does anyone really think (seriously) that Rahmn would not want to kneecap (perhaps even literally) the CTU if he could?
- Formerly Known As... - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:11 pm:
@Wordslinger nails it that there is a ==victory== just waiting to be picked up on the property taxes. The ? is,
If Rauner expressed a willingness to support that, would the bill remain clean as is?
Or would Madigan then try to exact a price a la Rauner, bringing things back to square one again?
- Politix - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:14 pm:
I find it easy to believe that Rahm would agree with Rauner that breaking the CTU would be good for Rahm.
I find it hard to believe Rahm agreed to pursue it.
- Politix - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:17 pm:
Formerly - Is it “exacting a price” or NEGOTIATING. Stop with the victim stuff.
- MurMan - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:21 pm:
===If Rauner expressed a willingness to support that, would the bill remain clean as is?===
The Dems aren’t putting posion pills in the property tax freeze. they are willing to do it. The problem is that they will not include Rauner’s provision to prohibit collective bargaining as part of a property tax freeze.
Rauner’s priority with that bill is to allow local governments to bust unions. If it was to get a property tax freeze then he would have put some GOP votes on the bill and it would be law by now.
- Anonymous - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:24 pm:
I imagine Rauner is thinking his triangulation plan is playing out perfectly still.
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:28 pm:
Rahm is giving the victory roadmap.
Can Rauner read a map?
- Norseman - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:32 pm:
=== Does anyone really think (seriously) that Rahmn would not want to kneecap (perhaps even literally) the CTU if he could? ===
He’d probably want to be dictator if he thought he’d get away with it. It’s always simpler to get what you want when nobody is around to stop you.
Da Mayor got schooled because of his ham-handling of CTU. He’s learned that he needed to moderate his approach. When is The Chief going to learn that.
- cdog - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:33 pm:
Rauner’s goal is to be able to stand on the stage at the Fox News Tabloid Arena Debate in four years, and say “I busted the Illinois teachers’ union, the City of Chicago, the State of Illinois, Medicaid, Seniors, you know all the poor whiners who are faking it all the time, and gave everybody all their tax money back. WooHoo! I can do the same for America…”
He will forget to mention the 1000s of unmedicated street people, the 100,000s children doomed to poverty, and millions of sick and dying uninsured folks…. /s
I find GOP politics to be very cognitively dissonant and even fractured. I almost pity the Raunerbots who have been stripped of their God-given Free Will.
Rauner accusing others of double-dealing. That’s pretty funny.
- Wensicia - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:41 pm:
It’s not victory for Rauner unless he gets his anti-union legislation.
Every important political leader in this state has pointed out there’s no way it’s going to happen. All this does is seem to enrage him and he digs in deeper.
- Buzzie - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 12:53 pm:
All Rauner is doing is laying the groundwork for a 2016 increase in the House and Senate supermajorities.
- PublicServant - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 1:02 pm:
Dude, when your wine-drinking partner is telling you to dump your union-busting agenda, you’re done. Things will only get worse for you now. Declare victory, and cut your losses.
- OneMan - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 1:04 pm:
Does anyone seriously think Rauner wants to be President?
- Oswego Willy - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 1:06 pm:
===Does anyone seriously think Rauner wants to be President?===
I do.
All governors think about the White House, just like all US Senators, just like all Congressman.
Rauner thinks about it, sure.
- PublicServant - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 1:14 pm:
===Does anyone seriously think Rauner wants to be President?===
I personally think that Rauner wants to be Donald Trump.
- MrJM - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 1:18 pm:
“Does anyone seriously think Rauner wants to be President?”
I think he’s much more interested in being the President of the United States than he is in being the Governor of Illinois.
Admittedly, that’s not saying much.
– MrJM
- JS Mill - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 1:18 pm:
= offset state funding of teacher pensions granted to every school district in Illinois except Chicago.=
No problem, you have my support so long as the following three items are included in the bill-
1. Chicago and Cook County property tax rates are applied to the same EAV level as the rest of the state. (33% of EAV instead of the current 16% of EAV)
2. CPS goes into the GSA formula just like every other school in the state, with out the block grant, with out the special cut of CPPRT, not before everyone else, exactly the same.
3. The School Code is amended to eliminate all CPS specific rules and CPS follows the same exact rules as everyone else.
I mean if they are going to whine and cry about “fair” and everyone being treated the same, then let’s be fair and all be treated the same..
- Arsenal - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 1:19 pm:
I think he’s like, “If I’m popular in four years, it’d be nice.” But pantsing the unions and Madigan is his priority, and he’ll sacrifice a future political career for it.
- Arthur Andersen - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 1:22 pm:
JS Mill, you forgot #4:
Reduce all CTPF benefit provisions (Constitutionally) to be no greater than Downstate TRS.
- Under Further Review - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 1:26 pm:
English grammar poses a challenge for Mayor Emanuel. Reading the quote, I cannot understand what he was saying. I guess he was throwing out syllables and trying to dodge the question.
“I asked the Speaker and then Gov. Quinn and President Cullerton, that I ran on an effort to make sure our children have the full school day, the full school year, no longer the shortest school day and the shortest school year. We couldn’t make progress, work with me so that we should not have to negotiate that in a contract.”
What did he ask them?
- Cathartt Representative - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 1:49 pm:
According to my wife, who would know, CPS was extremely close to a one year deal with the teachers last week that included the pension pickup and a salary freeze. They were basically done when CPS announced they were breaking off the talks and proceeding to negotiations on a 3 year deal.
The big reason CPS gave was that they remained far apart on the 7% pension payment. However, it was CPS that proposed keeping the pickup in the one year deal. I think this could only have been done to try and appease Rauner. I think the teachers are headed to a strike this winter that will make 2012 look like a garden party.
- JS Mill - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 2:03 pm:
@ AA- Ahh yes, excellent point!
- NoGifts - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 2:17 pm:
“Chicago and Cook County property tax rates are applied to the same EAV level as the rest of the state. (33% of EAV instead of the current 16% of EAV)”
It doesn’t matter which rate is used. Property taxes are an allocation problem. The units of government say how much they need to operate (the levy), then the property values are used to calculate the share of that amount each owner will pay.
- Juvenal - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 2:26 pm:
I don’t think anyone finds it the least bit surprising that the mayor and claypool support some ideas that are unpopular with unions.
What I do find amazing is that Rauner had a huge outburst of a press conference just two weeks ago because he was mad that Rikeesha was speaking publicly and in general about meetings between President Cullerton and Governor Rauner.
And then yesterday Rauner holds a press conference to blab about some alleged details of conversations he has had with Rahm to try to embarrass the mayor into a corner.
That is just nuts. Just plain nuts.
No one, no one can expect to have a frank, off-the-record conversation with the governor now, not even members of his own party.
- Triple fat - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 2:45 pm:
I became Governor to have a good time and I’m honestly feeling so attacked right now.
- JS Mill - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 2:59 pm:
=It doesn’t matter which rate is used. Property taxes are an allocation problem. The units of government say how much they need to operate (the levy), then the property values are used to calculate the share of that amount each owner will pay.=
No. You do understand how it works.If you need $8,000,000 to operate but the EAV base and rate will not generate those dollars, you do not get them.
By basing the EAV on 33% of value instead of 16%, you will essentially double the available revenue using the same rate (I believe PTELL would have to be reset to allow this). It could be a phase in over time or ramp /s.
- qualified someone nobody sent - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 4:06 pm:
JS MILL Cook County assessing everything except industrial/Commercial @ 10% . That happened in 2009. I/c was reduced to 25% too
- qualified someone nobody sent - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 4:10 pm:
JS MILL Assessment levels are determined by the Cook County Board, not the State.
- qualified someone nobody sent - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 4:34 pm:
JS MILL: additionally EAV is equalized assessed value. State equalizer in Cook was increase to 3.3+ in 2009. While assessments decreased in 2009 by the AL change it was clearly offset by the GIANT increase in the STATE DOR equalizer. EAV’s increased for all County residents and while tax rates decreased, taxpayers didn’t get a reduction in taxes. I’m usually very interested in your comments but this isn’t your area of expertise obviously.
- JS Mill - Friday, Aug 7, 15 @ 4:47 pm:
@qualified someone nobody sent- A multiplier of (around) 2.9 is applied to Cook County bringing it to about 16%. I was simplifying. And it was state law that allowed for the difference, not a unilateral action by the county. They were, at one time, 33% until a legislative fix was applied. BTW- The multiplier is determined by the state.