Putting two and two together
Friday, Aug 28, 2015 - Posted by Rich Miller
* An interesting take from Aviva Bowen at the IFT…
Last week, Michael Hiltzik of the Los Angeles Times ran a story about how shutting down a public pension plan – the kind of thing that occurred in nearby Michigan and regularly in Governor Bruce Rauner’s daydreams – actually costs taxpayers money. Hiltzik references a recent study from the National Institute on Retirement Security, an organization “whose board and advisors comprise officials of public pension agencies and leading academic experts on pension economics.”
The upshot:
Amid the nationwide panic over the rising costs of public employee pensions, one proposed solution is nearly universal: States and municipalities should shutter their traditional defined benefit plans and place all new employees in a 401(k)-style defined contribution plan instead … As it turns out, the [Wall Street] Journal — and the drafters of the initiative — have the math exactly wrong. The experience of states that did exactly that shows that taking these steps sharply increases pension costs to taxpayers while providing employees with markedly poorer retirement benefits.
Featured in the story is “billionaire former Enron trader John D. Arnold, a backer of the campaign against public employee pensions”:
The National Institute’s report is a reminder that it’s wise to ask who benefits in a shift in public employee pensions from defined-benefit to defined-contribution plans. Not the taxpayers, and not the employees. That leaves the major promoters of public-pension panic: Wall Street investment operators, such as billionaire John Arnold. Wall Street collects billions in fees from big public pension funds, but its take from millions of individual retirement accounts is potentially much higher. The lesson for taxpayers and public employees alike is clear: when you hear “experts” talking about how ending defined benefit plans will save everybody money, keep your hands on your wallets.
Let me put that more simply: destroying your retirement security makes Wall Street a lot more money.
But beyond just general outrage, why is that important to us here in Illinois? And why is that Arnold name so familiar …?
A billionaire Houston couple heavily involved nationwide in pension and education changes opposed by unions — issues shared by Gov. Bruce Rauner and Mayor Rahm Emanuel — has contributed $5 million to a state political action committee, campaign finance records showed Thursday.
The donation from John and Laura Arnold to IllinoisGO, short for Illinoisans for Growth and Opportunity, is the third-largest individual political donation ever recorded by the Illinois State Board of Elections in more than two decades of electronic record keeping. […]
That’s why. The caption that appears below Mr. Arnold’s photo in the Times reads: “What does he get out of it?”
Good question.
Beyond the Arnolds, other IllinoisGO funders have strong ties to Governor Rauner as well. So far, the PAC has produced an online video, distributed fliers, and sent misleading mailers about school funding into targeted legislative districts around the State.
Anyone want to wager what’s next on their agenda? I’ll bet you $5 million.
Discuss.
- Concerned - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:11 am:
Follow. The. Money.
- IllinoisBoi - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:15 am:
Concerned: “Follow. The. Money.”
Yes. And:
“Screw. The. Little guys.”
- Ghost - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:15 am:
The fall of rime was complicated, but one of the things that lead tomita demise was the accumulation of wealth in the hands of the few. It turns out you cant sustain an economy with money and spending from the majority of your Population. If you cut retiree money then they dont spend. Cut cuteeetn workers and they dont spend. The small business and big business that get income from these folks go under etc.
Defined benefit plans outperform 401k anf provide money to the economy. 401k were designed to be in addition to defined benefit plans. As more and more companies eliminate defined benefits, we are increasing our population of retirees in poverty and the drain on social services to support them…. All so a small grp and earn large bonuses.
The us economy has grown since the 50s. But the money is not going to the middle class whose buying power is hald what it used to be.
- Tournaround Agenda - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:16 am:
I was wondering what Arnold’s angle was months ago when he made that huge contribution. Now I know. Yikes.
- illinifan - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:19 am:
Beware of politicians who won’t take a salary. There is always some way they will make money. Interesting friends he has considering Enron is such a “stellar” example of changing employee benefits.
- Truthteller - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:24 am:
Rauner, Griffin, and now Arnold. Is this what democracy looks like. Blagojevich and Resco were little leaguers compared to these guys. Is Illinois ready for oligarchy?
- The Way I See It - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:29 am:
And if you wondered what thd end game was, here ut is …
- Anonymous Redux - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:29 am:
Is Illinois being sold down the river?
- D.P.Gumby - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:30 am:
The footprints of Brucie’s hostile electoral takeover.
- thunderspirit - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:31 am:
== “Let me put that more simply: destroying your retirement security makes Wall Street a lot more money.” ==
I’m shocked — SHOCKED — to find that gambling is going on in this establishment.
- Sir Reel - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:34 am:
As Homer says, Duh!
- Albany Park Patriot - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:35 am:
I think you just unlocked this IllinoisGo outfit. Hopefully the rest of the press pays attention to this background.
- Anonin' - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:38 am:
“What does he get”
Does he need more? Those Enron boys scorched the earth…some did some hard time…This guy reminds us TeamBungle consultant Stu Levine who is closin’ on the homestretch in the pokey and soon available to be appointed to some board or commission. Don’t forget the head of the racin’ board and his subprime loan scam — his pappy and boss is recently back from slam city.
- Norseman - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:40 am:
Yes folks, it’s about the money. That’s Rauner’s version of the state motto.
- RetiredStateEmployee - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:45 am:
ol·i·gar·chy
ˈäləˌɡärkē/
noun
a small group of people having control of a country, organization, or institution.
“the ruling oligarchy of military men around the president”
Too late, we already have that.
- JS Mill - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 10:47 am:
Not shocking in any way. Illinois is yet another prize for the billionaire boys club (not that the previous owners were doing us any favors).
The narrative against public pensions has been repeated often enough that, even though generally false or at least misleading, it has been accepted because it is simple to digest and places responsibility on someone else, primarily the public worker and their dastardly unions. This type of scapegoating is a time honored and effective tactic that goes back millennia.
- X-prof - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 11:14 am:
== ol·i·gar·chy ==
To put a finer point on it, plu-to-cra-cy.
As in: NASA’s recent fly by of the dwarf planet seems like such a waste of taxpayer dollars when you consider all the plutocracy we have right here at home.
- Langston Huffington - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 11:20 am:
If the State or any other public entity wants DC pensions, let them also start withholding and paying FICA. That would be the only fair way of doing it. It won’t save the State (or locality) any money.
Rauner wants to save money. read: save money for his hedge fund buddies.
- PublicServant - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 11:34 am:
Thanks Citizen United…How’s that working out for America? See above for an example.
- Sue - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 11:39 am:
Regardless of the pros/cons of defined benefits plans which are the basis of virtually all public pensions, no one can argue that it is fair to make the taxpayer ultimately responsible for market performance. Given the vagaries of stock performance, the public bares the funding hit when markets tank. If we are going to be on the hook for pension performance the GA should at least change the trustee selection process to insure that the funds are administered by professionals. At least for TRS, the teachers who get elected to the Board tend to be IEA stalwarts. We would all be better off if the Illinois funds had investment expertise on the boards as opposed to the folks being selected based on political considerations
- Big Mouth - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 11:39 am:
Rich, you continue to highlight studies of organizations that have a built-in bias. Most of NIRS’s, see below, investors are public employee pension systems. NIRS makes money by keeping the status quo. They are not a legitimate source in this instance.
Broad & Diverse Support
Leadership Members
Council of Institutional Investors
National Association of State Retirement Administrators
National Council on Teacher Retirement
National Conference of Public Employee Retirement Systems
Visionary Circle
AARP
AON Hewitt
BNY Mellon
CalPERS
CalSTRS
Colorado PERA
Communication Workers of America
District of Columbia Retirement Board
Employee Retirement System of Texas
IAM National Pension Plan
Illinois Municipal Retirement Fund
Kentucky Teachers’ Retirement System
Los Angeles County Employees’ State Retirement Association
Minnesota Teachers’ Retirement Association
- Rich Miller - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 11:41 am:
===Most of NIRS’s, see below, investors are public employee pension systems.===
Also, see above, where that’s made clear in the post.
- Willie Stark - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 11:44 am:
Big Mouth: do you have some data to support a different view, or is your only disqualification of the study who funded it?
- RNUG - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 11:44 am:
== If the State or any other public entity wants DC pensions, let them also start withholding and paying FICA. ==
I’ll concede the following is oversimplified but note the qualifying words; I realize some people do not fall into the general categories.
The majority of actual State Employees (defined as those who are members of SERS) already contribute to FICA along with SERS and, in some cases, the Deferred Compensation (DC) program. There are some exceptions.
The majority of “state” employees who do not currently contribute to FICA are teachers. You are correct that changing them to a DC system would require additional cost that would, presumably, have to be paid by the school districts via the local property tax.
- Chicagonk - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 12:40 pm:
The problem isn’t that 401k plans have worse returns necessarily, but that the all of the pension plans they studied are underfunded while life expectancy continues to increase (increasing liabilities).
- DonaldTrump - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 1:01 pm:
Let me see if I got this straight. When the State contributes less to pensions it actually cost taxpayers more money? Interesting. No wonder Democrates rely on low information voters. By the way, I have a bridge in New York I’d love to sell you.
- JoanP - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 1:18 pm:
“former Enron trader”
That, right there, is all the reason anyone needs to ignore anything this guy says.
- Juvenal - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 1:21 pm:
Rich:
From my post yesterday(emphasis added):
- Juvenal - Thursday, Aug 27, 15 @ 1:34 pm:
=== Well, yeah. I figured everybody already knew that. ===
I think you and Giertz are forgetting two very important details.
First, Cullerton wanted to insert the compromise plan as a Plan B into the bill, but that was quashed by the Tribune and GOP. That undermines the argument that SB 1 was built-to-fail by Democrats.
Secondly, the failed bill also kept the issue alive for Rauner and others who still dream of implementing a plan that privatizes and balkanizes the current retirement system into individual accounts where they could collect much more lucrative fees.
Plus, a failed bill allows the GOP to keep railing against unions and state budgets in general.
- Dale Cooper - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 2:18 pm:
I’ve always wondered if it has something to do with these wealthy people being able to crash the market and benefit from it. They were able to buy property much cheaper after the crash in 08 and also make large sums of retirement monies just ‘vanished’ into thin air after 911. People on track for retirement have to work longer, then those jobs are not available for the next generation and so on. But now I’m starting to sound a little crazy. As if there are people smart enough and powerful enough to orchestrate such events.
- Geek Marine - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 2:49 pm:
If you think no one can figure out how to destroy the middle class, just look at what ALEC has been doing with their training programs for politicians.
- IllinoisBoi - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 3:21 pm:
Dale Cooper:
“I’ve always wondered if it has something to do with these wealthy people being able to crash the market and benefit from it. They were able to buy property much cheaper after the crash in 08 and also make large sums of retirement monies just ‘vanished’ into thin air after 911.”
I’ve often wondered that too, but the optimistic fool in me rejects the idea as paranoia. But, you have to admit that whether the crash was “engineered” or not, its end effect was to transfer billions of dollars from working people to the super rich.
- cdog - Friday, Aug 28, 15 @ 4:27 pm:
Headline– Rauner Linked to WallStreet Pension Scam