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Um, it’s called “mathematics”
Thursday, Sep 10, 2015 - Posted by Rich Miller * He says this like he’s some sort of innocent bystander…
…Adding… Raw audio… …Adding More… Listening to the audio, the governor was actually talking about how he was stunned to learn that Illinois is one of the few states that allow late payment of bills.
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- Father Ted - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:43 pm:
Wow, maybe he really doesn’t read newspapers!
- Huh? - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:44 pm:
Where has he been living for the past few years?
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:44 pm:
Dear Rauner Crew,
You guys did tell Bruce he won… He knows he’s governor… right?
Signed,
OW
- Tournaround Agenda - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:44 pm:
“I tried to pay the bills, but Speaker Madigan wouldn’t let me!”
- Frenchie Mendoza - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:45 pm:
Someone so clueless and insulated he has no idea what his job is.
- Wordslinger - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:45 pm:
Are we sure that’s not a gag?
Because if it’s not…..
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:48 pm:
“Hi OW-
We as a ‘crew’ will tell Mr. Rauner he won after Speaker Madigan and the legislators he controls vote and pass the Turnaround Agenda.
Thanks!
ck
ps, Goldberg says hey!”
- VanillaMan - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:48 pm:
Rauner is being misquoted, I think.
The Governor probably said that it was “funny”.
Then he laughed like Cesar Romero playing The Joker.
- Stones - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:48 pm:
While Rome burns - Nero fiddles
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:48 pm:
Please, please, please tell me there’s video…
- chi - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:49 pm:
It’s stunning to me that I am preventing these bills from being paid.
-Bruce Rauner
So clueless…
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:50 pm:
Audio?!?
(Passes out)
- Corporate Thug - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:50 pm:
Ha! Wow. How does he get away with answers like that? I haven’t watched the full presser, but It would seem to me a follow-up question, I dunno, like “You do realize that your a part of this equation too, Governor? How do you respond to that?”
I don’t get why he’s not pressed harder.
- VanillaMan - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:52 pm:
- this - from the same man who stripped, flipped and sold properties, businesses and people like the rules never applied to him.
Trust me, Bruce Rauner knows how unpaid bills can be neglected - via his own personal venture capital experiences.
Then he laughs like Cesar Romero playing The Joker.
- Norseman - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:56 pm:
And Rauner’s incompetence is causing these bills to zoom to ever increasing heights.
- sal-says - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:56 pm:
== Rauner says its “stunning” to him that IL even allows unpaid bills to pile up, let alone that the number is going up ==
HAS to be a bad joke, right? If not, The Governot is again demonstrating that he.is.incompetent to operate IL.
- hisgirlfriday - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:57 pm:
does he want the comptroller to sell off assets to pay bills when there is not enough revenue for the expenditure?
or maybe he thinks illinois should bring back its own currency from lincoln’s whig days?
- Tournaround Agenda - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 2:57 pm:
Governor: “We can’t be compassionate without being competitive.”
Translation: I don’t care what shuts down or who gets hurt as long as the Turnaround Agenda gets through.
- Nick - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:00 pm:
Three words: out. of. touch.
- Carhartt Representative - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:01 pm:
I blame the corrupt union bosses and the defenders of the status quo.
- thunderspirit - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:02 pm:
“This is important…they [the General Assembly] have a constitutional obligation to submit a balanced budget…they are not meeting their obligation”
Actually, Governor, it is *you* who has that constitutional obligation to submit a balanced budget. It is their constitutional obligation to fund the budget that the Governor proposes, with appropriations not to exceed revenues.
- sal-says - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:03 pm:
After more thought about The Governot’s comment, the real response to it must be:
Jerk.
- TROOPER - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:05 pm:
I don’t know guys…..
He sounds tired and defeated, I mean he is keeping his talking points, but he no longer sounds as confident in them as he once was.
Those were nervous laughs!!!!
Anybody else hear that?
- Coach - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:05 pm:
These next three years can’t go quick enough!
- Wensicia - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:06 pm:
Does he believe the lack of a budget erases all past and continuing debt?
- Anonymous - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:10 pm:
“we can’t be compassionate without being competitive” (meaning, what happens to someone becomes my problem, but I simply cannot do anything about it. A federal judge has to tell me how to pay things.)
- Aldyth - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:13 pm:
When people talk about the Bridgegate troubles of New Jersey, who’s name do they mention? Governor Christie. They don’t remember any of the rest of the cast of characters.
When people talk about the financial problems in Kansas, who do they mention? Governor Brownback. Can’t remember the names of anybody in the legislature who might be involved.
When they talk about the economic mess in Wisconsin, lagging behind the rest of the Midwest in recovery, who do they mention? Governor Walker. They couldn’t tell you who else has had a hand in it.
Who will the people across the United States remember brought on the much touted death spiral of state government in Illinois? Governor Rauner. The only other politicians from Illinois that they might remember would be President Obama and Rahm Emmanuel. Madigan isn’t going to be on their radar. They might recall that the Speaker of the Illinois House has something to do with it, but they won’t remember his name. Rauner may not like thinking that he owns this, but as far as the country is concerned, this is all about Rauner.
- Unspun - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:18 pm:
My belief in respecting an elective office (even if its holder is not my favored candidate) has historically been unwavering. However, the blatant ignorance displayed by this disconnected and aloof Governor is straining that belief to its limit. All I can do is shake my head and count the days until the expiration of his term. I pity the GOP that have hitched their wagons to this Governor and his ignorant brand of extreme politics. I also pity all of the victims that are being deprived of vital services in the wake of his incompetence. Please work on the budget. Please govern the state, or at least make a valid attempt at doing so.
- Apples in the Square - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:19 pm:
What?????!!!!???
This makes me nervous. Who is in charge????
- Anonymous - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:21 pm:
Better pull the wing man in for a little talk
- Just Me - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:25 pm:
I believe his point is that the State spends more money than it brings in, therefore we need to cut spending as he has been attempting to do for months without a lot of support.
- illini - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:26 pm:
And he has been our Governor for how long???
- Anonymous - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:28 pm:
HE’s the GOVERNOR, no one else! Helloooo? “Passive Aggressive”…. “Not my Fault, Not my Problem”? “What me do?” “DOHH!”
- AJ_yooper - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:31 pm:
Zombies been eaten’ his brain!
- Our home - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:34 pm:
Not only do we allow it, but we don’t even allow interest to accumulate for 90 days. Used to be 60
- 47th Ward - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:40 pm:
Didn’t he claim the backlog of unpaid bills was one of Pat Quinn’s failures? Whose failure is it now?
- IllinoisBoi - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:41 pm:
Aldyth: 100% correct. Whether they like it or not, the buck stops on the desk of the executives. They can point and wiggle and evade and obfuscate all they want but in the eyes of the world they own their states’ problems and no one else.
- scholar athlete - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:43 pm:
It’s actually arithmetic not mathematics, making the faux gov’s remarks even scarier. Clearly he’s living in his own private Idaho.
- Anon - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:43 pm:
Aldyth, you do realize at least two of the three governors you mentioned got re-elected, right? I have no idea what goes on in Kansas. Who the heck cares?!
- Flynn's Mom - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:46 pm:
He is clueless and is dragging Illinois further into the abyss.Shame on the people who voted for him. Now we are stuck with a “leader” who is not capable and doesn’t seem to understand the process.
- Anonymous - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:47 pm:
Any bets he pulls a Palin and steps down before the end of his term?
- Dirty Red - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:49 pm:
I think I get his point, but my question then is why even propose a budget that shorts HIRF?
The Governor sounds so defeated in this interview.
- illini - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:52 pm:
Anonymous - if your scenario plays out - do you realize that “slip and sue” will be our Governor?
- cdog - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 3:55 pm:
The audio was interesting.
Can we believe him when he says there are talks going on every day at some level?
Can we believe him when he says the he is trying 24/7 to fix this?
Can we believe him when he says he talks to Dunkin all the time but didn’t talk to him about last weeks vote?
Can we extend any benefit of resisting the inclination to doubt to this man. A man that will make a personal attack his number 1 tactic in governing?
Gov Rauner, where is YOUR BALANCED BUDGET?
Gov Rauner, where are your Turnaround bills that have even a HINT OF COMPROMISE?
Gov Rauner, your credibility and political capital is slipping away….
Step up, set up a meeting, have the cameras rolling while the four leaders come meet with the Governor of the State of Illinois. Act like a Gentleman Statesman and cut a REASONABLE DEAL.
When you continue to talk the talk, and not walk the walk, your talk comes across like a pile of junk.
- Formerly Known As... - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:00 pm:
==Who will the people across the United States remember brought on the much touted death spiral of state government in Illinois?==
Pat Quinn?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2010-09-15/-death-spiral-awaits-state-worker-pensions-as-illinois-leads-underfunding
http://www.forbes.com/sites/baldwin/2012/11/25/do-you-live-in-a-death-spiral-state/
- Formerly Known As... - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:02 pm:
Or do you mean the guy trying to pull the state out of your aforementioned ==death spiral==?
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:03 pm:
1) anything that keeps ole Slip and Sue from being governor, I’m in that camp.
2) Rauner is absolutely NOT engaged. He can say all he wants, but that quote is a “governor” not knowing what is going on in his state.
3) call Cullerton, reset the budget.
4) take tort reform and property taxes now and declare victory.
5) pass the tax increase, get state services back on track.
6) live to fight another day.
- Norseman - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:05 pm:
=== Can we believe him …? ===
The answer is no on all counts.
- sal-says - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:06 pm:
== This makes me nervous. Who is in charge???? ==
Yup. N.O.B.O.D.Y
- sal-says - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:09 pm:
== Anonymous - if your scenario plays out - do you realize that “slip and sue” will be our Governor? ==
Well, do you think that she is worse than the ‘nothing’ we have now? Maybe, she at least might TRY to do the job.
- JS Mill - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:16 pm:
Question I would like answered…just exactly what did he THINK was happening with the bills?
- Daniel Plainview - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:16 pm:
- stunned to learn -
My 11 year old niece knows this, yet our Governor is just learning it?
For crying out loud, does anyone in this administration have a clue?
- illini - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:18 pm:
sal-says. you actually posted to my comment, but that is OK. And you may be correct, but I doubt it!
- NeverPoliticallyCorrect - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:19 pm:
Dems may not like it but Rauner is right. If you don’t want to discuss my reforms than pass a budget and override my veto. If you can’t, then you need to compromise and work with me. This mess is clearly in the lap of the Democrats. They should be forced to stay in Springfield until they pass a budget.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:21 pm:
- NeverPoliticallyCorrect -
Nope.
Governors own. Always been, always will be.
If you want to admit Rauner is indeed inept and can’t craft a budget, I’ll agree with you, however.
“Pat Quinn failed.”
Welp, “Bruce Rauner is failing and clueless…”
- William - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:27 pm:
This extended budget battle is producing some pretty leans news stories.
- anon - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:29 pm:
rauner’s turnaround proposals got full hearings and votes in the senate in may–When you have a bad bill it doesn’t get out of committee without an amendment–the sponsor’s weren’t allowed to file amendments because Rauner didn’t want to compromise–see ya at the mid-term Gov.
- GA Watcher - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:31 pm:
Rich, you’ve been to these pressers with the Governor. Does anyone ever challenge his responses? It was very hard to hear, but it sure doesn’t seem like it.
- anonlurker - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:37 pm:
Tearing out his hair, huh? Those bad boy Dems.
Rauner cues up Zevon’s “Poor, poor pitiful me”
- Wordslinger - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:39 pm:
Websters
“Stunned: Astonished or shocked, temporarily unable to act.”
Let’s hope it’s temporary. Because it gets worse every day.
Again, what’s ROI for precipitating this fiscal crisis? What’s the return, in something other than dorm-room talking points?
- Politix - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:43 pm:
He gets stunned an awful lot.
I didn’t know IL was one of the few states allowing late payments, but I wouldn’t call it stunning.
- AC - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:49 pm:
I’ve never heard him more clearly state that there is no disagreement between him and the Democrats on the tax increase than in that audio.
- illini - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:52 pm:
It is really sad and disheartening in the manner our Gov. is trying to implement his “turn around budget/agenda”. It is not going to happen and the only people suffering are those citizens least able to mount an effective PR campaign to keep the programs being cut or cur back?
This is a sorry impasse that we find ourselves in, yet we have absolutely no indication that our Gov. has any interest or concern about those individuals and/or families that are most impacted by his decisions and policies.
Sorry BVR, you are dealing with the lives and welfare of millions of citizens, not just your investors in your Venture Capital Funds.
You are a Governor in a divided state and you need to start acting like you actually understand the reality of your situation and stop acting like a CEO of a Corporate Board that is beholden to you,
Get real!!!!!!!!
- AC - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:52 pm:
Maybe working 24/7 is part of the problem. Perhaps if he took off the rest of the week and caught up in his sleep he’d be in a better position to solve the states problems.
- Enviro - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:53 pm:
We do need some reforms in Illinois that would help workers.
But the reforms a higher Illinois minimum wage and hiring citizens for Illinois jobs instead of offering work visas to foreign workers.
- Oswego Willy - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:53 pm:
===Didn’t he claim the backlog of unpaid bills was one of Pat Quinn’s failures? Whose failure is it now?===
- 47th Ward -
“Bruce Rauner failed… “
- efudd - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 4:56 pm:
I’m with Trooper. Methinks the newness is wearing off of the shiny toy he bought and the realization that this is the first of four has set in. A cautionary tale of what happens when the wealthy/celebrities want to start at the top because their hubris won’t allow them to consider they may not have all the answers.
Good thing that’s not happening with a party on the national level.
- efudd - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 5:00 pm:
Madigan’s inability to override the vetoes is already old news. This type of story will keep on a comin’.
- Enviro - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 5:02 pm:
We do need some reforms in Illinois that would help workers.But the reforms needed are different than the ones we have been told we need.
How about these reforms.
Stop outsourcing Illinois jobs to other countries.
Pass a higher Illinois minimum wage
Hire Illinois citizens for jobs instead of offering work visas for those to foreign workers because they will work for less.
- walker - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 5:08 pm:
Rauner made the statement ==”Term Limits will directly impact the budget”== in his explanation at to why we must have it and other reforms before agreeing on a budget or on taxes.
That’s what stunned me.
Is he just sloppy in his use of language? Or does he not care whether a statement makes strict sense as long as the ideological flavor is correct?
How did this guy ever negotiate anything? He must have hired some great people to do virtually everything of substance at GTCR. He seems like a big picture guy, with few operational skills.
- Wordslinger - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 5:21 pm:
– Term limits will directly impact the budget–
I take it they’re firing up the bong in the dorm-room debate club.
Besides, the governor would plottz if the GA put a term limits amendment on the ballot. He wants to campaign on the lack of term limits, again, in 2016.
If the governor was sincere about term limits, his bigfoot lawyers wouldn’t have drafted obviously unconstitutional language for the amendment he was peddling to gather voter data in 2014.
- DHSJim - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 5:45 pm:
–And Rauner’s incompetence is causing these bills to zoom to ever increasing heights–
I wouldn’t call it incompetence. I think it’s intended.
- JS Mill - Thursday, Sep 10, 15 @ 10:34 pm:
Term limits would make it easier, not harder, for guys like Rauner and Uhline to buy elections.