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Unclear on the concept

Wednesday, May 11, 2016 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Dude, you vetoed their appropriations bill…


       

62 Comments
  1. - Dome Gnome - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:03 am:

    Gah!!!


  2. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:04 am:

    Bruce Rauner, seriously, believes wherever comes to his mind to pretend he’s not hurting people…

    While purposely and willfully hurting people to decimate unions.

    I. Can’t. Even.


  3. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:05 am:

    Next Rauner will blame it on Ron Sandack and the Tweet…


  4. - Stones - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:06 am:

    I refuse to accept your reality and substitute my own!


  5. - Formerly Known as Frenchie M - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:06 am:

    This made my head spin when I saw it a few minutes ago in the feeds. I thought: there’s an error here — a missing word, yes?

    No. He’s serious. He’s cheering for them. It’s his fault they’re suing — and he’s cheering.

    Rauner and Trump will be bestest, rhetorical buds before this year is over.


  6. - What the What - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:07 am:

    Dude, they aint suing Illinois. They are suing you. Does anyone ever challenge him when he says such utter nonsense?


  7. - Northsider - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:08 am:

    That’s some impressive cognitive dissonance there.

    (Facepalm)


  8. - cdog - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:09 am:

    “What state in America doesn’t pay its bills?”

    Well that’s easy. The state that elected a goofball that says one thing and does another, all the while pretending he doesn’t see the contradiction. Of course, all this while he insists on a. TA that has destruction of union jobs, social services, and higher Ed as it’s main goal.


  9. - Grumpy Gus - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:09 am:

    He vetoed a budget that was $4 billion out of balance. I don’t understand why the political ruling class doesn’t point more blame at the General Assembly for failing to do itss job.


  10. - cdog - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:11 am:

    In this one quote is the sum of all the tactics being used by Rauner to manipulate public opinion.

    Luckily, most people see through the Machiavellian ploy and understand it for what it is–A LIE.


  11. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:14 am:

    ===He vetoed a budget that was $4 billion out of balance. I don’t understand why the political ruling class doesn’t point more blame at the General Assembly for failing to do itss job.===

    Rauner’s own budget outline was over $3 Billion out of balance or are you just too ignorant of the facts?

    Governor’s Veto. That means the Governor made a choice, and then refused to pay bills after the veto.

    Also, learn about the Illinois Constitution, like Article VIII, Section 2, (a)

    Raunerbot ignorance is confusing after 14 months.


  12. - Stones - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:14 am:

    Grumpy Gus -

    Have you ever heard of an amendatory veto? Give Article IV, Section 9(d) a read and get back to us.


  13. - RNUG - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:14 am:

    I’m beginning to think Rauner is suffering from early onset Alzheimer’s … that would explain the disconnect.


  14. - illinifan - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:14 am:

    Danger, Will Anderson….this does not compute.


  15. - wordslinger - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:14 am:

    –He vetoed a budget that was $4 billion out of balance. –

    Causing the budget to be more than $6 billion out of balance, even after cutting billions from higher ed and social services.

    Is six bigger than four? I always thought so.

    After all this time, you still spout the “fiscal responsibility” gag? It’s like a cult, immune to facts and reason.


  16. - South of Sherman - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:14 am:

    Grumpy Gus: because the governor is not an innocent bystander in all of this. He can use his line-item veto to bring the appropriations bills into line with available revenues. Or he can propose additional revenues to bring them into line with spending. Or he could stop executing hostages until he gets the ransom he demands.

    So he doesn’t get to “cheer” the victims of his refusal to do his job.


  17. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:15 am:

    It’s called Perfidy. Like Trump with his taco bowl. Like Kay supports higher ed and women. Rauner supports the social service agencies. You can always find a sin eater but actual absolution never happens. Whether it’s Gods Judgment, Karma, voted out of office, or all three, we all must pay for our sins.


  18. - IllinoisBoi - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:16 am:

    “He vetoed a budget that was $4 billion out of balance. I don’t understand why the political ruling class doesn’t point more blame at the General Assembly for failing to do its job.”

    Rauner submitted a fantasy budget that was billions out of balance. I don’t understand why the citizens of this state don’t point more blame at the Governor for failing to perform his constitutional duty.


  19. - Arthur Andersen - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:17 am:

    Only slightly less bizarre is a story over at Illinois Review “McHenry Co. Board’s Walkup Schools on Pension Scam” (see the Blog Feed) wherein, among other things, Mr. Walkup believes the IMRF is a private company.


  20. - Big Ern McCracken - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:18 am:

    Don’t forget, yay 2014, Rauner’s the guy who claimed that he had a budget plan that would be divulged at a later date. Still haven’t seen one that is a serious plan. Zero trust!


  21. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:20 am:

    Only when Labor, Democrats, Social Service groups and their Advocates…

    …Non-Raunerites, be they in the GA or elsewhere…

    … decide “Vote According” matters, Rauner will ruin everything he can, it appears, and blame others because he feels no one will challenge his own realty.

    May 18th.

    If that’s “just a rally” to yell and scream and blow off steam… you’re wasting daylight.

    Get. To. Work.


  22. - Handle Bar Mustache - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:20 am:

    de·lu·sion
    dəˈlo͞oZHən/
    noun
    an idiosyncratic belief or impression that is firmly maintained despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality or rational argument, typically a symptom of mental disorder.


  23. - Norseman - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:23 am:

    Grumpy, that $4 b looks pretty good compared to the debt run up by the Rauner impasse.


  24. - Wensicia - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:24 am:

    Rauner vetoed paying the bills three times.

    What governor in America, besides himself, does that?


  25. - Anonymous - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:24 am:

    At what point does it become crystal clear that the governor cannot govern without more revenue? That his demand for the agenda is just a bluff?


  26. - anon - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:27 am:

    Grumpy: If the General Assembly didn’t “do its job” by passing an unbalanced budget, then didn’t the Governor also fail to do his job, which is to propose a balanced budget?? So far he has proposed two budgets $billions in the red, yet you want to put all the blame on the Democrats?


  27. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:27 am:

    === . @GovRauner says he’s cheering for social service providers suing #Illinois. “It’s ridiculous. What state in America doesn’t pay its bills?”===

    If Non-Raunerites, and I mean ALL Non-Raunerites can’t see that the Statehouse Races matter in stopping Rauner and his delusions, I can’t help you.

    That means “No Quarter” for a legislator because “Up till now, he/she has been a big advocate for us”

    That’s over. With 60+ override failures, “who” really in on your side, or Illinois’ side?”

    “Who? Who?”

    If you give Quarter to Raunerites,… Ugh.


  28. - Bronco Bahma - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:28 am:

    “Cheering for social service providers suing Illinois?”

    The providers aren’t suing the state.

    They’re suing Rauner.

    Un.
    Friggin.
    Believable.


  29. - @MisterJayEm - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:29 am:

    Q: “What state in America doesn’t pay its bills?”

    A: The one with Bruce Rauner as its governor.

    – MrJM


  30. - Foolish Sophist - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:29 am:

    “nothing but sunshine”


  31. - anon - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:31 am:

    “When there’s a conflict between partisan belief and plain evidence, it’s the beliefs that win.” — Marty Kaplan


  32. - FM - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:35 am:

    I think it’s time we give the governor a nickname: The Bystander

    He continues to behave as if he hasn’t been governor the last 16 months. He “hears rumors” about budget negotiations, acts like he doesn’t have line item and reduction veto power, and then when he does veto a bill, pretends like he didn’t.


  33. - Tough Guy - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:35 am:

    Always the victim, always the advocate. Governor Jekyll and Hyde i.e.. Governor Rauner


  34. - Bull Moose - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:35 am:

    Rauner osculates between nonsensical “I feel bad” and “I’m rooting for you” statements like this and the “funding services is just a ploy to institute a massive tax hike on the middle class” line.

    STOP PLAYING GAMES. Get off the Turnaround Agenda and start negotiating on revenue.


  35. - Montrose - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:37 am:

    Governor Rauner met with homeless youth providers and their clients. Remember Caprice’s piece in Crain’s? He told them he would not support legislation that appropriates the money to pay their contracts. Most of the providers that were in that meeting are part of the lawsuit. You told them you won’t support them being paid, they are suing you to get paid, and you cheer them on because it is a disgrace they aren’t getting paid.

    If this is Rauner’s sad attempt at a Jedi mind trick, it isn’t working.


  36. - Ole' Nelson - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:42 am:

    His contempt for the intelligence level of Illinois citizens becomes more apparent with each of his statements.


  37. - Pawn - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:45 am:

    Will he pay our legal bills too, since he is such a fan?


  38. - cdog - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:46 am:

    “I don’t understand why the political ruling class doesn’t point more blame at the General Assembly for failing to do its job.”

    Because the political class, and many of the voters in Illinois, know that the FY15 GA budget was in response to Rauner’s earlier intentional misrepresentation about “working together” to find revenue to fill the gap from the expiring tax surcharge.

    “…Some men you just can’t reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is THE WAY HE WANTS IT. WELL, HE GETS IT. I don’t like it any more than you men.”

    We are seeing some rabbit blood here, he is running from his own self-inflicted consequences.


  39. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:53 am:

    Let me also clarify something, so there’s no mistake…

    Thompson, Edgar, Ryan… Republican Governors knew what a Veto was, what it meant, that they these Republican Governors were Vetoing purposely as their choice and… it was a Veto, a move only a governor in our government can do.

    Rauner, a Raunerite, usurped the ILGOP. That’s over and done. But, if making the case “Rauner, the Republican, is doing… “, it’s more about how far the ILGOP fell than Rauner being a Republican governor. A Republican governor in the governing aspects governors actually work for a better Illinois.

    The new ILGOP, the Raunerization of a Party, is an example of a party walking away from what it had fought for, including being true to what it believes, and honest to how it will govern.


  40. - cdog - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:55 am:

    The sad fact is that these social services payables HAVE NOT EVEN BEEN VOUCHERED!


  41. - Earnest - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 11:55 am:

    A far cry from when he bemoaned the court settlements that required him to pay some providers.


  42. - JS Mill - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 12:02 pm:

    =I don’t understand why the political ruling class doesn’t point more blame at the General Assembly for failing to do itss job=

    Exactly whom do you think the ruling class is? How is Ken Griffin doing through all of this?


  43. - Name Withheld - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 12:29 pm:

    “What state in Amercia doesn’t pay it’s bills?” -

    This is the new trivia question on Who Wants To be A Millionaire.

    Remember - `We don’t have the money to be able to be compassionate.’


  44. - Anon221 - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 12:38 pm:

    Rauner has spun on his own spin. Unbelievable! Neverland here we come!


  45. - Ole' Nelson - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 12:42 pm:

    Perhaps this is some actual video footage from one of the Governor’s school visit Q&A sessions? /s

    https://youtu.be/uRf-sRZBiHo


  46. - JoanP - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 12:48 pm:

    So I take it, then, that he has instructed his lawyers not to defend the suit, but to allow a default judgment to be entered against him.


  47. - Ole' Nelson - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 12:50 pm:

    Sorry, I put my video (snark) post in the wrong thread!


  48. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 12:57 pm:

    -I’m beginning to think Rauner is suffering from early onset Alzheimer’s … that would explain the disconnect.-

    RNUG- unfortunately I believe it is stage IV Affluenza. Dunkin caught it from Rauner and it was fatal to his political career.
    One known cure is the vaccine HB580. I recommend that.


  49. - Anon221 - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 12:57 pm:

    Rich, is there audio or video of this statement? I think it needs to be on a loop for “Vote Accordingly” classes.


  50. - What the What - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 1:00 pm:

    Another tweet:

    “Sue! I mean, that’s terrific!” @GovRauner on 64 human service providers suing to get paid. @wlsam890pic.twitter.com/vq3v3TrG1q


  51. - Honeybear - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 1:02 pm:

    May 18th. You’d be proud. Coalition building like crazy. All opponents of TRUMP/RAUNER/KAY in the Metro east. I’ve got county folks, congregations, SIUE, and environmentalists all riding with the 1805’s. We may have to even get another bus. ORGANIZE!!!!!


  52. - Boone's is Back - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 1:15 pm:

    ===Dude, you vetoed their appropriations bill===

    LOL, best lede I’ve seen in a while


  53. - Joe Bidenopolous - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 1:30 pm:

    Dude has been reading his Twain. Never let truth get in the way of a good story.


  54. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 1:30 pm:

    ===May 18th. You’d be proud.===

    I’m looking forward to a movement’s beginnings.

    ===
    ===Dude, you vetoed their appropriations bill===

    ===LOL, best lede I’ve seen in a while===

    Yep. Brilliance.


  55. - EconLady - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 1:43 pm:

    Kudos to FM ==The Bystander==. Perfect.


  56. - burbanite - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 1:54 pm:

    Wouldn’t it be nice if they could make him pay it, personally? Since he is so concerned and all.


  57. - illini - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 2:20 pm:

    How can anyone who even remotely knows what actually has been going on this past year believe anything our Governor says?

    He has zero credibility and still appears to be denying that he has any responsibility. He appears to be either more obtuse or disengaged than I think he is or has such a low opinion of the electorate that he thinks will believe anything he says.

    Sad and far more disturbing than I could ever have ever imagined.


  58. - RNUG - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 2:28 pm:

    ==The Bystander==

    Vanillaman could have fun with a Kenny Rogers “The Gambler” parody …


  59. - Whatever - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 4:49 pm:

    C’mon, people. BVR identifies as a reasonable, conscientious and caring governor, and we should respect that.


  60. - Mama - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 5:26 pm:

    Rauner knows most people do not follow what happens at the state capitol. Those folks don’t know Rauner vetoed the budget last year. Therefore, he can publically spin the budget crisis however wants it spun..& those folks will believe him.


  61. - Mama - Wednesday, May 11, 16 @ 5:31 pm:

    Willy, what exactly does “Vote According” mean when we can not vote Rauner out of office for 2 more years.


  62. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, May 12, 16 @ 9:09 am:

    ===…what exactly does “Vote According” mean when we can not vote Rauner out of office for 2 more years.===

    It appears it means a lot of different things to lots of different people. I’m part of the blame for that, making it evolve, at times to being a “one issue voter”, with the one issue being Gov. Rauner.

    - Mama -,

    Dan Rutherford tweeted recently a picture of “Illinois Senate Alumi” meeting. Take a real good look at that picture. You have former senators that had labor support, were advocates of teachers, were “Legislator of the Year” for many of the Social Service groups being hurt right now.

    The diversity, along with Pate Phillip himself in the picture, really shined what was special about the GOP Senate Majority Caucus and the “Gorillas” making clear their constituencies many at odds with Gov. Ryan were going to be heard, and not “roll over” easily.

    It’s the Big Tent, and representing a constituency beyond moving an agenda. It’s about recognizing that a college in your district may very well be the economic engine of a region, and voting to hurt it, that’s not happening.

    It’s not Pollyanna or even rose colored glasses of a past that was as sorted as done issues are today, but “vote accordingly” is putting front and center reminding legislators who they are and not ignoring that for a $20 million stick held over their heads.

    The Raunerization of the Republican Party here is found easily in “Yellow” or “Red” votes or even NVs because being a thoughtful legislator just isn’t possible. The Raunerization of the Republican Party isn’t advancing growth of a party put taking Slytherin ideals to an all new levels

    I try not to, purposely, go after Radogno or Durkin because I feel in my heart while there are parts of the Rauner Agenda they agree with, it’s no accident whatsoever that monies are held over their heads and that hammer is there to be used against them. I like and root for them. I push because I’d like to think they know they could help more by being much more autonomous.

    To the legislators themselves, they know if they are turning on their own past or constituents because of the Raunerization. If they are, “Vote Accordingly” and send a message.

    If a candidate embraces the Raunerization and it flies in the face of what logically makes sense, “Vote Accordingly”.

    I really like when Comptroller Munger goes about her business by being the Comptroller and doing what needs to be done for a better Illinois. I’m not happy when the Raunerization of her words is unneeded, but inserted anyway.

    Finally, as Rauner walks away from Trump, the ironic similarities are one reason, but reading the Tribune’s assessment of Trump and its own ignoring of the Rauner paralells is like all involved in this Raunerization refusing to look in the mirror.

    “Vote Accordingly” is just another mirror.

    So, if others look at this as a single issue stance, I do not.

    It’s looking at those proxies and saying “Is there Raunerization going on to the detriment of their constituents, or are beliefs coming to light due to monies gained, or is it fear that we find candidates embracing who they are not?”

    “Vote Accordingly”, be the mirror they can’t avoid.

    Oswego Willy


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