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Chamber turns thumbs down on AFL-CIO demand

Tuesday, May 24, 2016 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Earlier today, Illinois AFL-CIO President Mike Carrigan said any changes to the workers’ comp system have to go through the formal agreed bill process. Illinois Chamber President Todd Maisch says he opposes that idea…

“The Illinois Chamber of Commerce is disappointed that organized labor wants any workers’ compensation reform proposal to go through the agreed bill process. Illinois is a state that desperately needs course correction, and passing workers’ compensation reform is critical to that end.”

“The agreed bill process is a long, drawn-out one, and insisting on that process is the same thing as demanding no change at all.”

       

23 Comments
  1. - Ghost - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:13 pm:

    lost opportunity to make it a partnership….. there is riom for improvement.


  2. - Honeybear - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:16 pm:

    and your point?


  3. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:21 pm:

    Of that’s delicious…

    ===“The agreed bill process is a long, drawn-out one, and insisting on that process is the same thing as demanding no change at all.”===

    LOL!

    “Just fold already, we don’t want any real governing going on!”

    ===”The Illinois Chamber of Commerce is disappointed that organized labor wants any workers’ compensation reform proposal to go through the agreed bill process. ..”===

    “The Illinois Chamber of Commerce is disappointed that organized labor wants any workers’ compensation reform proposal to go through the agreed bill process… because heaven forbid someone notices Rauner rcan’t get to 60 and 30 and if we can just ignore process… ”

    Right? Exactly right.

    You hang in there Todd. Rauner will give you new talking points real soon…


  4. - Formerly Known as Frenchie M - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:24 pm:

    I’m guessing that the “collective bargaining process” is also a long, drawn-out one, and insisting on that process is the same thing as demanding no change at all.

    Give the GOP credit for staying on message as they repeatedly, repeatedly attempt to subvert democracy.

    Stay classy, Todd and Bruce.


  5. - steve schnorf - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:25 pm:

    However, the agreed bill process produces legislation that passes, something that isn’t happening right now with most of the reform agenda. One side will get less than it wants, and the other will give more than it wants, but the end product becomes law. I understand the Chamber’s preference for a quicker process , but that simply isn’t happening right now, so the question becomes, “If we assume that the Dems won’t abandon labor, is this better than nothing”. Different folks will answer that question differently.


  6. - Norseman - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:30 pm:

    Todd doesn’t like to play with others. If he doesn’t get what he wants he’ll hold his breath until he turns blue.


  7. - out of touch - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:33 pm:

    So initiate the agreed bill process and exclude the Chamber. They won’t support a bill that doesn’t give them everything that they want, anyway. The 2011 changes to work comp were enthusiastically supported by IRMA, IMA, and all of the other reasonable business groups. The recalcitrant Chamber refused to support those changes. Very telling.


  8. - steve schnorf - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:36 pm:

    Sorry, I’m not raining on Mr Maisch. He works for a Board, and they set policy.


  9. - Handle Bar Mustache - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:37 pm:

    == insisting on that process is the same thing as demanding no change at all==

    “except when it suits us”
    -todd

    great to see you back in the fold here, schnorf!


  10. - Beenthereseenthat - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:38 pm:

    Back when the GOP controlled both chambers in the 95-96 session the business groups tried to ram through a “reform” WC package after the 96 election when they again lost the House. They didn’t use the agreed bill process then either. Gov Edgar didn’t support it and a goodly number of Republican members couldn’t vote for that package of business group wish lists.


  11. - blue dog dem - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:43 pm:

    As a born again “independent” , it took me nearly six decades to figure out the alliance between Democrats, union bigwigs and the trial lawyers. Now that I understand, I vote accordingly. It matters not to old blue how we get there, but causation rules need to be changed. If not, its all just meaningless dribble.


  12. - Oswego Willy - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:51 pm:

    ===However, the agreed bill process produces legislation that passes, something that isn’t happening right now with most of the reform agenda.===

    This.


  13. - unspun - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 3:59 pm:

    Sandack: “To achieve a compromise all sides must meet in good faith & negotiate, in good faith. I’m ready, 24-7 to do so. May 31 looms large & our State’s future is at stake. We must ‪#‎ReformIL‬, now!”


  14. - 4 percent - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 4:18 pm:

    @ Schnorf….

    Except for investing $1 million in Ken Dunkin in the last week when Mr. Maisch didn’t notify his Board.


  15. - Pot calling kettle - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 4:42 pm:

    When folks are serious about reaching a compromise, the agreed bill process can work pretty quickly.

    Plus, this is one of the things our GA does that actually works well.


  16. - cdog - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 4:43 pm:

    Why would unions care if causation is clarified by statute?

    Do they hold the position that an employer, and the employer’s work comp ins co, has an obligation to provide medical benefits and damages for an injury that did not happen on the job?

    This, in fact, is an argument for single-payer healthcare in the US. All of this junk would be moot.


  17. - Crispy Critter - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 5:14 pm:

    However


  18. - Yellow Dog Democrat - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 5:25 pm:

    The Agreed Bill process is a lot faster than the current process.

    Carrigan doesn’t agree to the agreed bill process unless Cullerton and Madigan are on-board.

    Maisch doesn’t reject the agreed bill process unless Rauner is against it.

    Anyone who was unclear about who is willing to compromise and who is negotiating in good faith had a crystal clear answer.

    Rauner just killed the budget negotiations.


  19. - Winnin' - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 5:40 pm:

    Heck, who wants to work in a time honored tradition that dates back to Gov. Jim Thompson?
    Let’s try to do it the Rauner way: throw a stick of dynamite at your enemies and see what bodies are left.


  20. - The_Equalizer - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 6:04 pm:

    “Chamber turns thumbs down on AFL-CIO”.

    Now there’s a shocker.


  21. - PublicServant - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 6:20 pm:

    YDD, exactly. Rauner knows that what he’d end up with would be an acceptable negotiation on his bill labels (WC, prop tax, etc) without his union busting unmentioned portions of his legislation. But those parts are what he really wants don’t-cha-know. Makes for great conversation at those plutocrat wine tastings.


  22. - JackD - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 7:16 pm:

    What change regarding causation does the Rauner administration want? Is there specific language proposed?


  23. - Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, May 24, 16 @ 9:13 pm:

    Nice of Mr Carrigan to weigh in on workers comp reform 15 months after it was proposed

    Advocating for a long drawn out process that could have started 15 months isbthe same as advocating no reform at all

    Exactly right


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