The artful dodger strikes again
Tuesday, Sep 20, 2016 - Posted by Rich Miller
* From yesterday…
Reporter A: As the head of the Republican Party, are you yet able to say for whom you are going to vote for—for President. We heard you said you were voting for Trump in a crowd. Why won’t you say as the leader of the Party.
Gov. Rauner: I am not going to comment on the Presidential race. I am very focused on-
Monique Garcia [Chicago Tribune]: Was that report inaccurate?
Gov. Rauner: I am very focused on Illinois, as you guys know.
Reporter A: Is that a cop out? As the Leader?
Gov. Rauner: We need big reform in the State of Illinois. We need to grow more jobs. We need to protect our taxpayers. And we especially need to reform our political system, through term limits and Fair Maps. That’s where I am focused.
- Anon - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:02 am:
===We need to grow more jobs.===
This is such an awkward sentence. It’s almost enough to distract me from the fact he just refuses to answer a pretty straight forward question.
- Huh? - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:02 am:
You do have to give 1.4% credit for staying on message.
- Dome Gnome - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:04 am:
Artfully duckin’ and dodgin.’
- Annonin' - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:04 am:
A full scorecard on this rom with the media would be fun
1. He refused to answer Monique on how many of those hated 29 IDOT workers found new state jobs
2. He did his best escape from Trump tap dance on the trailer trash, IPI informercial
3. And then he had to giggle when Jordan told him the election in IL will produce no change.
- Huh? - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:05 am:
“We need to grow more jobs.”
I used read the seed catalogs and go on line and I never found any company that sold seeds to grow jobs.
- Archiesmom - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:06 am:
And that would indeed be a cop-out.
- @MisterJayEm - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:06 am:
[Writes Rauner talking points]
[Translates talking points from English to Italian]
[Translates talking points from Italian to German]
[Translates talking points from German to Spanish]
[Translates talking points from Spanish back to English]
– MrJM
- Stones - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:10 am:
Sounds like a guy who can’t take the arrows.
- Anon - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:11 am:
Rayner and Trump are one in the same.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:12 am:
Rauner has no same honesty or integrity to his own word.
Why then does Rauner “get away” with this?
When you don’t hold yourself up to be measured for honesty and integrity, ethics or morals… and you literally have no conscience when it come to lying about truths that exist…
… you just move on from the discussion.
You move on because scruples aren’t important, it’s the impression for that brief moment, that slice of a second… Rauner can care less about honesty, integrity, ethics and morals.
“What are the rubes going to say? The unwashed that I need to fool know I’m with Trump, the lemmings that need to follow me roll their eyes but will stay silent, and the press… they got nothing. Literally nothing.”
Rauner knows. Throw $3, 4, 5 million in ads, no one will care what the press thinks. Plus, with Kass and McQueary already willing to say anything to defend him at the Tribune, Rauner can either get Kass or McQueary to continue to sell off their integrity (or what’s left of it) or get the INN to do some piece and Proft will backfill it in newspapers.
The lying? The lying is the absolute easiest part. No conscious or sense or actually wanting honesty abc integrity, it’s easy to do what Rauner does.
Honest.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:12 am:
“sense”
- Saluki - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:14 am:
Madigan does the dodge, and he is a crafty old veteran of the political game. Rauner does it and he gets blog boiled. Silly.
- RNUG - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:19 am:
===We need to grow more jobs.===
With the amount of fertilizer he dishes out, we should have had a bumper crop by now. /s
- SinkingShip - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:22 am:
I love, LOVE, that when he’s cornered and cannot answer a direct question out of fear that he’ll have to be honest, that he responds with regurgitated non-thoughts. Just an IPI parrot squawking IPI catch phrases. As Trump would say, “SAD!”
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:22 am:
That’s what Illinois needs in a governor — a straight talker willing to make the tough calls.
Saluki, could you expand on your Victimization of the Day? You just kind of phoned that one in.
- Southside Markie - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:27 am:
He’d be better served by diffusing this with a little humor. A sly smile and a quick, “C’mon now. You all know that the secrecy of the ballot box is sacred!”
- Trumpy Poo - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:28 am:
How is Trump’s candidacy relevant to the core problems facing Illinois?
- JS Mill - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:32 am:
=Rauner does it and he gets blog boiled. Silly.=
I am pretty sure I know who Madigan is voting for in the Presidential race.
And he gets skewered plenty.
But he is not the Governor of Illinois who is the self professed leader of the ILGOP.
Rauner is the single biggest not involved guy who is picking up the, nearly, entire tab and in an uninvolved way interviewing candidates to replace outgoing ILGA members.
Like the criminal caught on video, he continues to profess “wasn’t me” with a smirk on his face when EVERYONE knows it is a flat out lie.
- S-Town - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:32 am:
I’m going try this tactic in traffic court. “Do you deny that you changed lanes without signaling?” “I’m focused on reform right now.”
- walker - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:32 am:
Politicians duck and weave reporters’ specific questions all the time. Rauner’s about middle-of-the-pack on that score, but lacks some finesse.
- Anon221 - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:36 am:
The Five Rules…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zw1ejmPmXY
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:40 am:
===How is Trump’s candidacy relevant to the core problems facing Illinois? ===
You don’t think a Trump or Clinton presidency is relevant to Illinois?
- Blue dog dem - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:40 am:
I, old Blue, dont give a rats … as to whom the governor supports for president.
- Blue dog dem - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:43 am:
Rich at 11:40. I thought the Obama presidency was going to be relevant to Illinois. I thought the Obama presidency was going to be relevant to the US steel industry. My buzz.
- Trolling Troll - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:47 am:
Interesting read. Numbers 2,3, and 5 pertain here.
http://www.blackopradio.com/disinformation.html
- Trumpy Poo - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 12:09 pm:
I think the core issues facing our state stem from a failure of state level policy, not from federal level issues. The federal government didnt create our pension mess, and it didnt create state level regulations and labor laws that make it difficult to create new businesses. When Illinoisans reiterate time and again that reforming state government and creating jobs are their most pressing issues, I think we have plenty of opportunities at the state level to make improvements in the lives of our citizens wholly outside the realm of federal action.
- cdog - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 12:10 pm:
Rauner is much more Wall Street and pro-globalism than Trump.
Rauner is establishment and will probably vote for HRC. His language is big banks, derivatives, multinationals.
Is Rauner for TPP? idk….most likely imho.
We need elected officials that understand that our home grown shrimp and salmon does not need to be peeled,deveined, and processed by a 15 yr old in southeast Asia, and then imported back to US.
We need regional jobs that supply regions with food and supplies, not unemployed people hoping to not be homeless, sick, and hungry.
I think Trump gets that. He is not perfect but he is
a better voice for Main St.
(I still think Trump has something on Rauner and Rauner doesn’t want to trigger a verbal deluge.)
- Jeff Reynolds - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 12:14 pm:
So basically, Republican Illinois Governor Bruce Rauner, just like Republican Speaker of the House Paul Ryan, and Republican Senate Majority Leader support racist, sexist, xenophobic Republican Presidential Candidate Donald J. Trump.
Got it, Mr. Governor. I understand the message, and anyone else in your party LOUD and CLEAR.
- Liandro - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 12:19 pm:
“You don’t think a Trump or Clinton presidency is relevant to Illinois?”
Not really, no. It’s impossible for me to judge which would be worse. I, too, would stick to topics where I felt I could make a difference. The Presidential race is not one of them.
Mostly this thread is a silly line of attacks on a Governor of a state focusing on his state instead of the ridiculous national scene. To put differently, it’s a silly excuse to attack a governor that most commenters don’t like.
Just my take; far more worthy state issues out there.
- Liandro - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 12:21 pm:
- Blue dog dem - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 11:40 am:
“I, old Blue, dont give a rats … as to whom the governor supports for president.”
Whatever your reasons for that, I agree completely. It would be hard for me to care less about who Rauner wants to be President, even if he cared to weigh in.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 12:31 pm:
===far more worthy state issues out there===
And I think I had 22 posts yesterday.
Deal with it.
- Daniel Plainview - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 12:39 pm:
- You don’t think a Trump or Clinton presidency is relevant to Illinois?”
Not really, no. It’s impossible for me to judge which would be worse. I, too, would stick to topics where I felt I could make a difference. The Presidential race is not one of them. -
As always, I’d recommend you just stick to sandwiches.
- illini - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 2:12 pm:
Blue dog dem is right. BVR has long ago lost any credibility he may have once had with me and probably the majority of Illinois voters.
This is a very minor issue in terms of real questions that have to be answered honestly. Yet as we saw on his live twitter feed earlier today, all he is capable of doing is parroting his standard well worn answers ad infinitum.
- The_Equalizer - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 3:13 pm:
Leaders lead. Shirkers shirk. Rauner seems the latter when it doesn’t involve his money or his blessed turnaround agenda.
- Rabid - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 3:19 pm:
How will president trump reward Illinois finest governor,or president Clinton reward you for your silence ?
- Say no to big government - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 3:20 pm:
Why is this even news? Who cares who he is going to vote for. Why don’t journalists and reporters focus on something of substance?
- cover - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 4:24 pm:
= We need elected officials that understand that our home grown shrimp and salmon does not need to be peeled,deveined, and processed by a 15 yr old in southeast Asia, and then imported back to US. =
And I’m sure once a robot is able to do that job, those shrimp won’t be shipped off to Asia any more. I’m still looking for a politician of any party who has a non-Luddite answer to “bringing back jobs”.
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 5:25 pm:
Bruce is stuck. He’s been made the post unpopular governor in Illinois history, surpassing Pat Quinn.
Bruce is also upset he didn’t get any consideration to be VP, and we all know he wanted to buy Illinois’ govenor’s election as a stepping stone to the White House.
- Rabid - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 5:50 pm:
Even as a baby his mother couldn’t pin him down
- wordslinger - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 7:45 pm:
The governor at the Illinois GOP convention and his hand-picked Illinois GOP chairman have made it crystal-clear that they are backing Trump to the hilt.
The google will set you free.
Why he gets wobbly on the topic is a legitimate question for a chief executive who’s supposed to be able to make the tough calls and for the self-claimed leader of the Illinois Republican Party.
Geez, he’s a big boy. The state’s governor and leading Republican politician should be able to handle a question on the Republican nominee for president without getting the shakes.
It’s kind of a big deal.
- Huh? - Tuesday, Sep 20, 16 @ 8:59 pm:
“With the amount of fertilizer he dishes out, we should have had a bumper crop by now. /s”
Unfortunately, what 1.4% is spewing is more of a broad spectrum herbicide than fertilizer.