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Emanuel and Rauner lash out at each other as POTUS jumps into the fray

Wednesday, Jan 25, 2017 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Sun-Times

In an interview on WTTW-Chicago Tuesday night, Emanuel launched an attack on the governor for a two-year budget impasse, criticizing him as a man who has left the state “rudderless” due to a “rigid ideology and a rigid style.”

“He’s never proposed a balanced budget in two years. I think tomorrow morning when he gets up to speak at the State of the State, he owes the people of Illinois. Start, ‘I am sorry.’ Start with an apology,” Emanuel said.

Emanuel said the governor has “abdicated” his gubernatorial responsibilities and should be offering up solutions “not gum up the works with ideological things that are ancillary.”

“The State of Illinois is rudderless under Rauner,” Emanuel said.

* Politico

“What I don’t support is what the governor has done. The state of Illinois is rudderless under Rauner. You’re the governor. If I went two weeks without a budget, would you be blaming Ald. Carrie Austin, the chair of the budget committee, or me?” […]

“The governor is treating the kids of Chicago as if they’re not part of the state. And he’s treating taxpayers as if they’re second class citizens,” Emanuel said. “What is he doing? Rather than making progress, he is standing in the way. I think he has taken these rigid ideological positions, a rigid style, and Springfield and now Illinois have ground to a halt because of the approach he’s had.”

Rauner’s office fired back in a statement.

“A partisan rant coming from Madigan’s mayor is unhelpful to progress in Springfield,” spokeswoman Catherine Kelly said in a statement. “Madigan’s mayor should focus less on alliteration and more on getting his murder capital city under control.”

“Murder capital city”? He does realize that Chicago is in Illinois, right? And criticizing alliteration in a statement full of the same is a bit odd.

* And then this happened…


* CNN thinks it has that one figured out

Shortly after 8 p.m. on Tuesday night, Fox’s “O’Reilly Factor” ran a segment about violence in Chicago that included the following statistics: “228 shootings in 2017 (up 5.5% from last year” and “42 homicides in 2017 (up 24% from last year).”

One of the show’s guests, Horace Cooper, an adjunct fellow with the National Center for Public Policy Research, a conservative think tank, said, “I don’t know another word besides ‘carnage’ to describe the devastation that’s been taking place.”

Just over an hour later, at 9:25 p.m. ET, Trump took to Twitter using the same statistics Fox News had used and the same language as Cooper.

       

57 Comments
  1. - Dee Lay - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:29 am:

    “I will send in the Feds!”

    I know he wants to be more like Lincoln, but that whole martial law thing isn’t the way to go Donny.


  2. - 47th Ward - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:30 am:

    Donald Trump’s Twitter account did not respond to follow-up questions so no one has any idea of what, if anything, he intends to do.

    Sad.


  3. - AlfondoGonz - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:31 am:

    The sound you are hearing is a thousand “State’s Rights conservative Republicans” spinning this as somehow not an overreach of Federal authority, and not an invasion of State’s rights.

    The best I’ve heard is that it is like sending FEMA in after a disaster, which conveniently ignores that that “assistance” is requested.


  4. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:34 am:

    Trump intends to send in the climate change scientists.


  5. - PublicServant - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:36 am:

    There’s a shocker, Trump gets his facts from Fox.

    As for Emanuel’s criticism of Rauner…Bruce, the shoe fits, so wear it.


  6. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:37 am:

    State and national governments, led by inexperienced billionaire businessmen, are disgraces. What a ride we’re all in. Please make it stop. Rudderless is exactly the appropriate term.


  7. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:37 am:

    A thoughtful strategy for an increased federal role in stemming violence among high-risk groups in urban America is reasonable.

    It might take a commitment of more than 140 tantrum-fueled characters while watching Fox on the tv box.

    In regards to Chicago specifically, Pres. Trump should just look up that phantom copper he claimed he talked to a few months ago. The one who had a plan to end violence in a week, but Trump wasn’t curious enough to ask him what it was.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/08/23/donald-trump-says-chicago-police-could-stop-surging-violence-by-being-much-tougher/?utm_term=.f9fa8788b578


  8. - Swift - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:39 am:

    Poor move by ck regarding the murder capital statement, this isn’t just a city problem, it’s a state problem and I haven’t seen any action by the Rauner administration to stem the violence.

    Now if Rahm is not working with Rauner or reaching out to state agencies on the violence, that’s a different story, but regardless these two need to get together and actually govern.


  9. - Consideration - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:40 am:

    Madigan’s mayor of the murder capital city?

    What?


  10. - Magic Dragon - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:41 am:

    Perhaps these unfortunate statistics have something to do with the drastic inmate population decline that the Governor is touting for the state prison system. I would question how and through what mechanisms the population has declined so significantly.


  11. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:41 am:

    If President Trump is going to invade Illinois to control Chicago, he shouldn’t choose the “Skyway” from Indiana or 294/94 from Wisconsin. The traffic…

    Also, I dunno if I’d want my Gubernatorial Press Shop referring to the state’s largest city as such, given, he’s governor. Not good. I wonder if “ck” likes hanging out in the murder Capitol, but I’ll get to that in a sec…

    I also wonder would that occupation then be considered tourism and not occupation? Maybe? No? I dunno. Also, considering Rauner wants his own National Guard to run state government after the AFSCME strike begins, so lots of occupying forces!

    To the Post,

    It’s imperative for the United States that the President of the United States, any POTUS is successful for our country. Idle threats of occupying cities due to police and law enforcement, that’s something that sends the wrong message to nations abroad and for domestic faith and trust in government and POTUS and while simplistically it seems “thoughtful” to what’s going on, it’s far from seeming thoughtful to the powers in governing.

    To the Politics,

    It’s like “ck” used her Rauner Word Jumble and put it on “Angry Mode”, and again, if “ck” thinks it’s wise for her to go after the mayor of the largest city in the state her boss is governor of by having her named attached to this hyperbole to deflect from her boss’ own failures, I guess “ck” is lining with her head in the sand while tweeting how wonderful it is having brunch in Chicago…

    @CateKelly - Sunday night lights. #chicagosummers #lincolnpark #porchlife instagram.com/p/BH_K_StAlelJ…

    But “ck”, Chicago is the murder Capitol, “#chicagosummers”?

    Hmm.


  12. - John'sDaughter - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:47 am:

    The murder rate went up on Rauner’s watch. I think the two are related. People are hurting without a budget for two years. But Rauner doesn’t care.


  13. - Arsenal - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:48 am:

    ==Also, I dunno if I’d want my Gubernatorial Press Shop referring to the state’s largest city as such, given, he’s governor.==

    Of course, it’s nothing new, Rauner has been crapping on Chicago his entire term. And a smart opponent would bring up the fact that Rauner hasn’t solved any of Chicago’s problems, including the violence.

    Dog only knows if there’s any smart opponents.


  14. - SAP - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:48 am:

    I am reassured to know that the Current Occupant gets his briefings from Fox News instead of Homeland Security, the CIA, or the Federal B I.


  15. - Rogue Roni - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:50 am:

    Regardless of who or what is to blame for this, people are dying and our “leaders” are only seeking a way to benefit politically.


  16. - El Conquistador - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:52 am:

    Rauner is and has been failing. One session away from being a complete failure of a Gov. Sad. Just sad.

    And his spokespeople absolutely need to change their schtick. It’s adolescent at best and moronic at times.


  17. - jim - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:52 am:

    I could be wrong, but didn’t “The Donald” use the word “carnage” in his inaugural address. I remember some reporting about it, at least I think I do.
    If so, wouldn’t that undermine the claim that he’s stealing language from Fox News, as CNN seems to suggest?


  18. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:53 am:

    –Madigan’s mayor of the murder capital city?–

    Perhaps the real, deadly problem of the Chicago murder spike is not just another opportunity for stupid, robotic, partisan snark points.

    That’s real blood on the ground, those are real dead people.

    –SECTION 8. GOVERNOR - SUPREME EXECUTIVE POWER
    The Governor shall have the supreme executive power, and shall be responsible for the faithful execution of the laws.–

    Whether he likes it or not, Rauner has a sworn duty to address this problem, not just lob cheap shots like a kid tossing tossing rotten apples from a tree house.

    You wanted the gig, not get on with it, already.


  19. - Tommydanger - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 9:55 am:

    Maybe its wishful thinking or a real possibility, but I believe if the governor and president persist in continuing to say everything is terrible, everything is a crisis, that crooks, liars and more are everywhere, that both will be defeated in their respective reelection attempts.

    Such constant histrionics are exhausting and while they may be welcomed by some segment of the population, I suspect a majority of voters will want to return the business of running governments to the adults in the room whom can exhibit some degree of self restraint


  20. - PJ - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:04 am:

    It’s somehow not even surprising that the Rauner machine doesn’t see crapping on the biggest city in the state he himself governs as self-defeating.


  21. - Rogue Roni - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:07 am:

    People are dying and all our “leaders” are doing is trying to gain politically. I bet if it was a bunch of white kids getting shot the reaction would be a little different.


  22. - Joe M - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:07 am:

    Sometimes I get the feeling that Rauner wishes Chicago would just go away — except when he wants to send his daughter to high school there, or get big GOP campaign contributions from some of its wealthier residents.


  23. - Lucky Pierre - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:10 am:

    Where is the legislation about increasing mandatory minimum sentences the Mayor and Police Chief are asking for repeat gun offenders Mr Speaker?

    Why does it take the new President to bring this to the nation’s attention when the situation has been escalating for years?


  24. - Nick Name - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:10 am:

    No time for regular intelligence briefings, plenty of time to get his “intel” from Fox News. Ok.


  25. - cdog - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:11 am:

    Too bad Madigan’s Prosecutor, Madigan’s Mayor, and Madigan can’t stop playing games with each other.

    They are all so preoccupied with getting the better of each other at a personal and vindictive level that they are content to use the citizens of Illinois, especially poor blacks in Chicago, as a MEANS TO THEIR ENDS.

    This is the very definition of IMMORAL.

    Thump on Trump all one wants, but I find his intentions to be better than the above group of agents.

    (Leave it to CNN to focus on the messenger and delivery method, and not the message. You would think they would have learned a lesson or two on that in the last six months.)


  26. - A guy - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:18 am:

    I guess the triangulation we expected is a little different than the triangulation we’re getting with this.


  27. - Downstate Commissioner - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:18 am:

    If “Feds” means police help, won’t hurt, and might help-at least bring in some more money of some sort. If “Feds” means Federal troops-bad idea young 18-year-old soldiers shooting at (and being shot back at) by young 18-year-old gang-bangers would get rid of a bunch of 18-year-olds.
    Either way, Emanuel should accept the offer: it would take the problem out of his hands, save a lot of money. Heck, he could have police officers just write traffic tickets until the Feds took care of the problem. Save money, let the (Republican) president fail: win-win situation for Emanuel…


  28. - Pundent - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:28 am:

    I happened to catch Emanuel last night on Chicago Tonight. While I’ve never been a fan I thought that he provided one of the best rebuttals that I’ve seen to Rauner’s agenda in forever. It doesn’t say much for “ck” and her boss that this is the best reply that they can muster. I can’t see what they possibly get by bashing the economic engine of the state.


  29. - cdog - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:30 am:

    There was an interesting idea presented on the Tucker Carlson show, Fox.

    The guest said that prosecution for gun crimes committed by felons can be federal jurisdiction. He argued that by getting these cases handled with TOUGHER PENALTIES, convicting and incarcerating in federal system, would get many of these Jokers off the streets for a long time.

    Good idea, but a long term treatment plan for a trauma level event.


  30. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:30 am:

    –Why does it take the new President to bring this to the nation’s attention when the situation has been escalating for years?–

    Yeah, that Chicago murder spike — which began last year after decades of steady decline — has really been under the radar. Who knew, until Trump brought it up?

    There’s not an issue with you, not even murder, that isn’t fodder for cheap partisan snark.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago#Annual_murder_totals_in_Chicago_by_year


  31. - Anon221 - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:54 am:

    Variety of interpretations of Trump’s tweet.
    http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/does-trump-feds-tweet-mean-national-guard-no-thanks-some-say/


  32. - TinyDancer(FKASue) - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:54 am:

    I wonder….
    Whose approval ratings are the lowest - Rauner’s. Rahm’s, or Trump’s?


  33. - Henry Francis - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 10:56 am:

    Since the Gov is just a hapless bystander when it comes to all the violence in his state’s largest city, and hence has no responsibility for it, I assume he likewise has no involvement or responsibility for all the job growin’ (as he likes to say) that is going on there. Chicago and its metro area accounts for the overwhelming majority of his state’s job growth. And yet our
    “businessman” governor and his private job growin’ greenhouse Intersect have nothing to show.


  34. - AlfondoGonz - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:03 am:

    cdog

    If you’re thrilled about the “intentions” behind an obviously flawed and troubling idea, then your bias is showing.


  35. - Real Simple - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:05 am:

    Trump sends in hundreds of ATF agents backed up by other Federal law enforcement. When a convicted Felon is arrested with a gun, he goes to prison for 20 years. When gang members are arrested they also go to Prison. What is going on now is the gun offenders are given probation on top of probation. According to reports, Gang members are receiving a harsher treatment from the gangs for losing a gun than from the prosecutors. In other words very few people go to prison for shooting and possession of guns. A long term prison sentence would be a serious deterrent, but it would also make the streets safer. You can say this doesn’t work and it is the wrong way to do things. But at least TRUMP has the balls to try and stop the Hundreds being Killed every years. The Mayor could care less. The Governor could detail half the ISP at time to help. But innocent people are being killed everyday and it looks like nobody cares enough to take action but PRESIDENT TRUMP


  36. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:19 am:

    I have no problem calling Chicago the Murder Capital of the United States. There are those who would argue that Chicago can’t be the murder capital because it doesn’t have the most murder per capita. I disagree, apples and oranges.

    Johnson stated this morning on Dan and Amy’s show that the entire city isn’t dangerous, the violence is pretty much confined to certain areas of the city. He specifically named 3 areas on the south and west sides. Other cities with a higher per capita murder rate also are mostly safe, with the bad areas accounting for the murders.

    So if we compare apples to apples, which would be one cities bad neighborhoods to other cities bad neighborhoods, Chicago deserves the moniker of Murder Capital, Murderland, Murder City, etc. Mention Murder Capital to anyone and they already know that you mean Chicago. Trying to argue per capita is trying to put lipstick on a pig.


  37. - AlfondoGonz - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:26 am:

    Real Simple

    Some would call it fake news. Others would call it alternative facts. I’d simply call you a spreader of misinformation with terrible, terrible judgment.


  38. - Frustrated - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:26 am:

    Seems that Rauner is happy to be the Governor of Chicago, Illinois when participating in the World Series Parade, but he seems disinterested in associating himself to the City of Chicago relating to all of the crime.


  39. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:28 am:

    –Seems that Rauner is happy to be the Governor of Chicago, Illinois when participating in the World Series Parade, but he seems disinterested in associating himself to the City of Chicago relating to all of the crime.–

    Ouch.


  40. - walker - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:29 am:

    Next Trump will portray this violence as primarily by “illegal immigrants” in a “sanctuary city” and his package will be complete. The “Feds” will be mostly ICE and FBI.

    Remember, this is immigrant threat day for the Trump team.


  41. - cdog - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:29 am:

    Real Simple, let’s hope this approach can gain support in the right places. I think between the three Madigan’s, Madigan’s Mayor has THE WILL to take a real action along these lines.

    Alfondo, I think I am most definitly biased, and let’s throw in a heavy dose of moral righteousness. This should have been being handled by the city and state, and if it takes a patriarchal approach by Trump to start helping these poor black neighborhoods, I’m all for it. I will own the “bias.”


  42. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:31 am:

    Real Simple, Cdog, you got all that from one tweet?

    Right now, it’s an empty vessel you can fill with whatever you want.


  43. - AlfondoGonz - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:38 am:

    “This should have been being handled by the city and state, and if it takes a patriarchal approach by Trump to start helping these poor black neighborhoods”

    As said by others, if Trump genuinely wishes to help poor black neighborhoods through reasonable, constitutional means, then that is commendable.

    A vague threat delivered via “twitter” accomplishes nothing.


  44. - cdog - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:41 am:

    You folks are sure a pessimistic bunch.


  45. - AlfondoGonz - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 11:58 am:

    “You folks are sure a pessimistic bunch.”

    “Mothers and children trapped in poverty in our inner cities; rusted-out factories scattered like tombstones across the landscape of our nation; an education system flush with cash, but which leaves our young and beautiful students deprived of knowledge; and the crime and gangs and drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country of so much unrealized potential.”

    Only following your Dear Leader.


  46. - cdog - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:07 pm:

    That was the premise, Alfonso.

    You conveniently left out the conclusion and proposed actions. Trump wants to PIVOT from this nightmare.


  47. - Levois - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:24 pm:

    Are they sure they want to refer to the mayor as Madigan’s Mayor? Rauner’s folks must want to connect every Democrat to Madigan.


  48. - AlfondoGonz - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:27 pm:

    cdog

    You call it “this nightmare,” 2 posts after calling others “pessimistic.”

    It’s not fun if you don’t even try.


  49. - cdog - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:32 pm:

    If I say the sun will come out after the storm, am I an optimist or a pessimist?


  50. - AlfondoGonz - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 12:56 pm:

    An optimist. If you call the greatest country the world has ever known, during the time when technology is the most advanced, life expectancy is the highest in history, the most people are literate in history, and the safest social net in history is in place a “nightmare,” then you are a pessimist.


  51. - A guy - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:18 pm:

    ==I wonder….
    Whose approval ratings are the lowest - Rauner’s. Rahm’s, or Trump’s?==

    D. The Speaker’s.


  52. - W Flag - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:19 pm:

    The response of the Emanuel Administration is the same tired tune that Chicagoans have been hearing for years. It was the same song that the Daley Administration used to sing. Restrict guns and fund more programs and the murder and mayhem will stop.

    Trouble is the murders are not being committed by hundreds of people with FOID cards or taking CCL classes. The guns are not purchased from licensed gun dealers.

    I am angrier at Rahm than the Donald.


  53. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 1:20 pm:

    - A Guy -

    The Speaker is not on the ballot statewide in 2018.

    Rauner will be in the ballot statewide.

    Rauner is upside down in favorables, statewide, where he will eventually run again.

    Just sayin’, lol


  54. - crazybleedingheart - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 2:20 pm:

    ==According to reports, Gang members are receiving a harsher treatment from the gangs for losing a gun than from the prosecutors.==

    These so-called “reports” came directly from press releases from the disgraced and fired police superintendent whose federally-investigated department was found to be lousy with “alternative facts” and ignorant of the Constitution.

    This is garbage. It has always been garbage.


  55. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Jan 25, 17 @ 3:30 pm:

    Why didn’t the Justice Department interview the “disgraced and fired police superintendent?” Mc Carthy was a scapegoat, it was the mayor and state’s attorney that covered up the video not him

    Crime was much lower under Superintendent Mc Carthy and morale among police officers much higher.


  56. - Rabid - Thursday, Jan 26, 17 @ 6:17 am:

    The land of madigan, madigans mayor and madigans govenor hear from madigans new president


  57. - Rabid - Thursday, Jan 26, 17 @ 6:40 am:

    Message sent to all mayors from Lincolnshire to Chicago I have your back


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