128 Comments - Thoughts Matter - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:16 am: Chance may or may not participate in developing an education bill that gets passed and signed. However, he can draw a lot of attention to our dysfunctional state. Conventional means of getting the budget stalemate worked thru haven’t worked. Maybe this kind of attention will. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:17 am: “globally” How do you Oodla Loop someone like Chance… “globally” I can’t wait for “ck” to respond to Chance… “globally” - Columbo - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:17 am: So you’re saying there’s a chance……? - Henry Francis - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:22 am: We know how important social media and tweetin’ are to Rauner. Rauner has 18.1k followers on the Twitter. Chance has 3.39M - A State Employee Guy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:23 am: Wherein we note that Chance attended Jones College Prep, a self-segregating select enrollment school. Real man of the community. - Boone's is back - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:25 am: What are the odds that Rauner accepted this meeting with the knowledge of who Chance’s father is and the fact that the kid actually knows something about policy? - Rogue Roni - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:25 am: Good on Chance. The state media has been largely silent about the lack of budget for over two years and the disaster it has been. Maybe with Chance we’ll get more national news outlets loooking at Illinois. - Not Rich - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:27 am: somebody is way out over their ski’s - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:27 am: “Wherein we note that Rauner’s denied, Winnetka-living daughter was clouted into and attended Payton Prep, denying a worthy Chicago-living child a chance to attend due to Brucd Rauner. Real man of fair education, that Rauner.” Better. - Almost the Weekend - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:27 am: A State Employee Guy, You do know Rauner’s daughter went to a top notch CPS high school and lived in Winnetka right? - 47th Ward - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:28 am: ===a self-segregating select enrollment school=== Huh? It’s a selective enrollment public high school. Exactly like Payton Prep, where Rauner pulled strings to get his daughter enrolled. What point are you trying to make? That Chance isn’t authentic? Good luck with that bro. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:29 am: ===somebody is way out over their ski’s=== Bruce just came back from skiing in Utah, I’d say Rauner is in over his head. I bet a few of those 9 homes have a pool of some sort… - Not Rich - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:30 am: Rauner and State Employee BOTH way out over their ski’s now..check back for news of crash landing.. - Anon - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:32 am: Where is James Meeks in all of this? Rayner really took him out of the fight by hiring him, huh? - PJ - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:35 am: State Employee Guy: Should he not have gone to the best school he could go to? Does one have to go to an open enrollment neighborhood school to be able to comment on CPS funding issues? If so, I look forward to the Governor (and essentially every other Republican in the state) removing themselves from the conversation. - BK Bro - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:36 am: Note: Not The Onion - Dee Lay - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:39 am: Rauner’s $50 million megaphone isn’t as loud as Chance’s social media megaphone. So Rauner will end up losing the day, but still holds the strings to make his puppets dance. What’s the odds on a Rauner ally calling Chance a “thug” by the end of the week? 2-1? 3-2? - Free Set of Steak Knives - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:40 am: Wherein we note Jones College Prep’s student body is 41 percent low-income. And its the fourth-best high school in the state. Furthermore pointing out that Chance argues that every child in Illinois is entitled to a world class education, not just those lucky enough to get into Jones College Prep or Walter Payton. - A MODEST PROPOSAL - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:41 am: “Globally” —– The moon people and martians deserve to hear your message too, why you keeping them out? - Arsenal - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:41 am: ==Rauner’s $50 million megaphone isn’t as loud as Chance’s social media megaphone.== It’s better directed at the relevant audience, though. - AlfondoGonz - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:41 am: Chance is Rauner’s worst nightmare. Rauner has benefitted from an opponent that is utterly incompetent when it comes to messaging and platform. Well, Chance is a Grammy award winning rapper who stars in Super Bowl Halftime commercials, and he became famous by delivering a message. If Rauner has any humility, he’d recognize this and pander his pieces of flair off. - JS Mill - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:45 am: =Good luck with that bro.= That made me laugh! Spot on, spot on! - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:46 am: How badly does the Rauner Communication Shop want to go back and either undo that “Tweet” (Tweets ruin things) or wish Chance just wanted a picture with the Boss and just moved on? This feels like a “Pandora’s Box” nightmare for the Rauner Crew. “Don’t open the box” Opening the box didn’t end well… - Anonymous - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:51 am: I applaud Chance for his activism. A lot of people who make it, could not be bothered to credit the people and institutions that fostered their success (e.g. Paul Ryan relying on SSI and now seeking to dismantle the safety net). Kudos to him for using his celebrity to call attention to Rauner’s hostage crisis. The fact that it takes a pop culture icon to direct media attention (Rich Miller being an exeption) to the matter is, though, absolutely pathetic. - OH - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:01 am: If Chance really wants to amp things up, I’d suggest a series of rallies/concerts at state university campuses. - Free Set of Steak Knives - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:02 am: @Oswego Willy Yep, might have bitten off a wee bit more than they can chew. - Anon221 - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:03 am: Rauner’s week is not getting off to a good start. Bernie picks on the Proft “fake news” publications. “Not Madigan’s Fault” is gaining some momentum. And, he’s more unpopular than sugar! - East Central Illinois - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:04 am: It would be very encouraging if Luke Bryant were to get involved in this as well. Bryant is a relatively famous country music singer from Paris, Illinois (yes, Paris, a small town in East Central Illinois). Between rap and country, maybe the music industry could help shed some light on the dismal education funding system in Illinois. - East Central Illinois - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:06 am: @ OH (11:02 a.m.) good idea! - wordslinger - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:06 am: can’t wait to hear all the solutions Chance and Rauner came up with over the weekend. No one made Rauner say those goofy things. He’s not a victim of himself, - City Zen - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:07 am: Can we ask Chance to pick-up the teacher pension pick-up? - A Jack - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:07 am: Who cares where Chance went to school if his heart is in the right place? Did the fact that Bono wasn’t born in Africa negate that he tried to help the starving on that continent? - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:08 am: ===Yep, might have bitten off a wee bit more than they can chew=== A lil lack of foresight too(?) To the Update, Rauner, “Give this to Emmanuel. Blame him, then don’t help with the votes in the GA to pass it. That’ll fool Chance for a while… ” So the Governor of the state is going to dump this on Chicago’s Mayor, and point Chance “there”? Oh boy. Interesting. - Bobby Catalpa - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:12 am: We need Bono. Where is Bono? - Roman - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:13 am: To the memo: “Path #1″: Not sure a state law is needed. Chicago has directed excess TIF funds to to CPS on its own in the past. (BTW, interesting to see Rauner embracing CTU talking points.) “Path #2″: Not a bad idea. This could be a mini-grand bargain. Two bills, one that provides CTPF cash, another with the pension reform language. Dems provide the bulk of the votes for the former, Republicans for the latter. - wordslinger - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:14 am: To the update: Looks like Chance just shamed Rauner into releasing a hostage. Good work, young man. It’s not a school funding “solution,” but the bar to progress is pretty low when dealing with Boss Rauner. - 47th Ward - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:14 am: ===this bill could be broken off from the “Grand Bargain” and amended to add the city’s request to pick up the normal cost of teacher pensions and retiree healthcare expenses in this fiscal year. Such a comprehensive pension reform agreement would satisfy the deal we made last summer and could be signed into law without delay.=== 1. Still negotiatin’ (moving the goal posts) 2. TIFs are a one-off solution. CPS requires a long-term, sustainable solution 3. They want to re-do the deal they un-did with Rauner’s veto? 4. They’re going to have to put more than 10 SGOP votes on this. These are just some of the reasons the Democrats are tired of Rauner’s games. A moving target is really tough to hit. Who knows what he’ll ask for next, right? Finally, we wouldn’t be here if he hadn’t vetoed the CPS bill out of spite in December. - Exhausted - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:22 am: Not being a rap music fan, I had never heard of Chance the Rapper before all this. Looked up some of his songs, here’s some lyrics to the first one I randomly clicked on: Pusha man/Paranoia: I’ve been riding around with my blunt on my lips With the sun in my eyes, and my gun on my hip Paranoia on my mind, got my mind on the fritz But a lotta ni**as dying, so my 9 with the s*** [x2] (censored by me) I can’t imagine why anyone WOULDN’T want this guy helping write public policy? /s Seriously, what the heck is wrong with people, and why is anyone surprised? I think the Governor went well beyond just giving the guy some of his time. You can argue these are just words and he really is smarter than he sounds, but those 32million fans of his, do you think they are followers because of what he ISN’T saying in his songs? I doubt it. - Franklin Delano Bluth - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:28 am: @ Exhausted Yawwwwwnnnnn, you can cherrypick lyrics as much as you want. I’m not major fan of Chance’s music but let’s not forget a large part of his appeal is the gospel influences and uplifting messages. Would you prefer he do nothing about the budget? A true case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t. - Not Rich - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:28 am: Exhausted: always love it when someone who doesn’t understand a culture, makes statements about that culture like they are an expert.. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:30 am: - Exhausted - Like Chance’s music, don’t like it. Think whatever you will of the fans of Chance too. ===I think the Governor went well beyond just giving the guy some of his time=== Hmm. The reality is Rauner got outflanked by someone with a strong lineage and more than a remedial understanding of politics, messaging, and… leverage. It’s now a Pandora’s Box that Rauner is, at paint if this box opening, now hoping for a “neutral” result with Chance not angry or upset with him. ===You can argue these are just words and he really is smarter than he sounds, but those 32million fans of his, do you think they are followers because of what he ISN’T saying in his songs? I doubt it.=== I appreciate you speak for 32 million fans. You know. You know what ALL these fans think and believe and you don’t approve of these 32 million fans. Where to unpack. “…do you think they are followers because of what he ISN’T saying in his songs? I doubt it.” What are you saying? Be specific, don’t be coy. what isn’t being said, start there. - Rocky Rosi - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:31 am: This is getting unreal. I guess celebrities know more about high level finance and public policy than people that have access to real government data and have been working in the field from years. Good Luck! - Reality Check - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:31 am: @Exhausted, get out more. Or at least listen, as Rauner and his staff should have, to “No Problem”: “You don’t want no problem, want no problem with me!” (and my 3 million twitter followers) - Roman - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:33 am: @Exhausted I’m no fan of Chance or any rap music for that matter, but let’s allow some room for artistic license here. Don’t forget, Johnny Cash once shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die. - Robert the Bruce - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:33 am: Well done, Chance the Negotiator. Both options seem reasonable. Though option #1 is sorta funny, given that TIF funds were taken from schools in the first place. - Almost the Weekend - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:35 am: Chance the Rapper and the Illinois Governor he controls. Did I do that right IL GOP? - Anonymous - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:35 am: @Exhausted. Who’s trying to write policy? Just trying to keep educating children the goal. - Not Rich - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:35 am: @Exhausted: are you a City resident? Englewood? Austin? Gresham? please enlighten us on Chance’s words - Annonin' - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:36 am: So if the BigBrain memo sez use TIF $ for the pension for just one year…does that mean BigBrain signs the bill..or do we check with Goldie…or Chance…or Meeks, Purvis, Tony Smith - Bobby Catalpa - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:39 am: – Don’t forget, Johnny Cash once shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die. — And Eddie Money shot a man on the Mexican border. I mean, yeah, it’s art — and it’s effective. You don’t have to like it to understand that it’s more effective than politics at the moment. Trump and Rauner will continue to be bedeviled by art. That’s a good thing. That means the country still has its soul. - Anonymous - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:42 am: @Exhausted. The 32 million will just call you lame. And that’s slang for not being in the know. - A State Employee Guy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:48 am: The difference, of course, is that Rauner isn’t trying to be a champion of CPS; but Chance is. I feel silly even having to point that distinction out. Here’s a thought exercise for you all: try to explain how someone who escapes their neighborhood public school in favor of a school that discriminates based on achievement can be a voice for equity in public education. And go. - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:50 am: Wait now Chance’s followers won’t vote for Governor Rauner? How many did the first time? Chance would have zero influence with suburban women or working class Reagan democrats who will sway the next election. - Oneman - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:50 am: Easy ‘long term solution’ for CPS… Pay the same school property tax rate I do in the burbs… - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:53 am: “…try to explain how someone denied daughter who ‘escapes’ their neighborhood public school, New Trier, arguably one of the finest public high schools in the country and one by which Rauner’s own daughter could attend without any assistance, in favor of a school that discriminates based on achievement can be a voice for equity in public education.” Better. I’d ask Arne Duncan, Diana Rauner (a person Bruce indicated could have been the clouter of their denied Winnetka-living daughter) or Bruce Rauner. Good try. Not “really”, but it’s adorbs you keep tryin’, lol - Piece of Work - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:55 am: So, 23 year old Chance the Rapper is negotiating for the Dems after decades and decades of mismanagement of the city and CPS. Got it. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 11:57 am: ===So, 23 year old Chance the Rapper is negotiating for the Dems after decades and decades of mismanagement of the city and CPS.=== … and Rauner has an intra-office memo and a two prong plan in hopes that 23 year old doesn’t continually blast him (Rauner) for his (Rauner’s) failures? Got it. - Piece of Work - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:03 pm: LOL Willy, that is hilarious. Glad to see you have a little sense of humor, you are a pretty serious fella. - JS Mill - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:04 pm: =So, 23 year old Chance the Rapper is negotiating for the Dems after decades and decades of mismanagement of the city and CPS.= So, the governor is abstaining from work again and letting 23 year old Chance the Rapper find a solution fir two years of destruction. Got It. - Rich Miller - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:04 pm: On the bright side, I now have an Instagram account. - Bill L - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:05 pm: ===The difference, of course, is that Rauner isn’t trying to be a champion of CPS; but Chance is. I feel silly even having to point that distinction out.=== I can see where one WOULD feel silly throwing illogical shade on someone who is at least TRYING to do something for kids and schools. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:07 pm: Ironic to your take, yes. Funny? How? What’s so funny about my comment. Did I type it to amuse you? What’s so funny about it? ===Wait now Chance’s followers won’t vote for Governor Rauner? How many did the first time?=== Again, do you have a clear indication about anything you’re trying to refute/defend/point to as measurable? Your knowledge on the 32 million is amazing. - Piece of Work - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:15 pm: JS Mill, your lack of acknowledging the decades and decades of Dem mismanagement is duly noted. - RNUG - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:22 pm: Rauner trying to get pension reform without having it tied to the Grand Bargain. And if he succeeds, you can bet Rauner with try to count that $215M transfer as increased school funding in his world of alternate facts. - DuPage Moderate - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:22 pm: Isn’t all of this for naught? We’re in a death spiral. There is nothing that we can do to save this state while preserving the status quo…nothing. We can complain all we want about gridlock - but we’ve gone over the edge. Hopefully our landing isn’t too awful. - Out over my Skis - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:28 pm: Thanks for the laugh! - CPS - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:28 pm: That’s the best CPS can do? We raised taxes so now give us more even though tax rates in Chicago are still lower than most of the state? Maybe equal funding should be a two-way street. State gives more only after city property tax rates match the suburbs! - JS Mill - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:33 pm: =JS Mill, your lack of acknowledging the decades and decades of Dem mismanagement is duly noted.= Yeah, I am a UGE ILDP fan!/s Shows how blinded you are by your extreme partisanship. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:37 pm: ===…your lack of acknowledging the decades and decades of Dem mismanagement is duly noted.=== … it’s also noted that Governor Rauner is trying to find a solution for the current $215 million taken from Chicago via Rauner Veto. I point to the grab below… ===…to fill a $215 million hole…=== Is that an “accident” that the $215 million is the exact amount Rauner vetoed for CPS? Is that number also a direct response to Rauner criticism by Chance? Where are the “decades”. That grab was written by the Rauner Administration… - whetstone - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:41 pm: Worth noting that Chance’s dad, Ken Williams-Bennett, has been a political power player since the Washington admin. Wouldn’t surprise me if he picked up some moves from him. (If he gets a TIF sweep, that’s pretty impressive.) Since we’re quoting Chance lyrics, here’s one from the same song I know you scared You should ask us if we scared too I know you scared Me too I know you scared You should ask us if we scared too If you was there Then we’d just knew you cared too - Annonin' - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 12:57 pm: On the bright side, I now have an Instagram account. ….is that good or bad? and is it contagious - IRLJ - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:02 pm: If one believes the Senate’s pension bill is unconstitutional to the extent it doesn’t let employees vote for the status quo, then it seems like tieing the CPS $215 million to the pension bill is an effort to kill it. Also, wouldn’t such a tie-in violate the Single-Subject Rule? - Juice - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:05 pm: IRLJ, would be able to meet single subject requirements by having a transfer of funds from the State to CTPF in the funding section of the CTPF article. - City Zen - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:14 pm: ==Chicago residents stepped up and are paying $342 million more in taxes this year alone to support schools== They forgot that final $200 million step - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:16 pm: Can someone tell Emily Bittner from CPS that Chicago Democrats who have occupied the Governor’s office as well as the Speaker of the House and Senate President’s office that Chicago democrats designed and had over a decade of total control of state government to fix the racially discriminatory state funding system and their so-called plan actually demands that Chicago students do more to get the same funding that every other student in the State of Illinois is entitled to receive – a gross disparity that has no place in 2017. Chicago residents stepped up and are paying $342 million more in taxes this year alone to support schools, and it’s past time for the state of Illinois to end the racial discrimination that is creating a separate and unequal funding system.” - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:20 pm: - Lucky Pierre - Rauner vetoed the $215 million. Rauner specifically requests $215 million to fill a… $215 million hole… matching a $215 million veto. Governors own their vetoes. Rauner is being called out for his veto, Rauner is trying to “do right” and fix his veto. I do like your comment thou, as far as a paragraph and sentences go, it really is swell. - winners and losers - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:22 pm: ==If one believes the Senate’s pension bill is unconstitutional to the extent it doesn’t let employees vote for the status quo, then it seems like tieing the CPS $215 million to the pension bill is an effort to kill it.== Unless the legislation specifically states that the two are tied together, the Courts could rule the one unconstitutional and not touch the $215 M. ==Also, wouldn’t such a tie-in violate the Single-Subject Rule?== No, they are both related to pensions. - Arsenal - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:31 pm: ==try to explain how someone who escapes their neighborhood public school in favor of a school that discriminates based on achievement can be a voice for equity in public education.== By advocating policies that promote equity in public education. It’s weird that you thought that would be hard. - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:33 pm: And Speaker Madigan and Senator Cullerton and their majority caucuses own the failure to fix the pension debacle in Illinois. The Speaker said in 2013 that “most of us recognize that the current Illinois pension systems are financially unsustainable. Everyone pretty much acknowledges this, and there has to be some mind of change, so I would simply ask everyone lets not get swept up in the emotion of the minute, lets keep our focus and continue to try and educate ourselves on these issues and move towards good. solid decisions as to how we can solve these problems” That was 4 years ago and he has not lifted a finger since Governor Rauner was elected to try to solve this pension problem. - Arsenal - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:34 pm: ==I can’t imagine why anyone WOULDN’T want this guy helping write public policy? /s== Take it up with Rauner, then? You guys are acting weird about this one. Rauner’s the one who went out of his way to make this meeting happen. It’s not anyone else’s fault. - Arsenal - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:36 pm: ==Can someone tell Emily Bittner from CPS that Chicago Democrats who have occupied the Governor’s office as well as the Speaker of the House and Senate President’s office that Chicago democrats designed and had over a decade of total control of state government to fix the racially discriminatory state funding system and their so-called plan actually demands that Chicago students do more to get the same funding that every other student in the State of Illinois is entitled to receive – a gross disparity that has no place in 2017.== That’s one sentence. - TinyDancer)FKASue) - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:38 pm: =On the bright side, I now have an Instagram account.= What’s an instagram account? - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:38 pm: ===And Speaker Madigan and Senator Cullerton and their majority caucuses own the failure to fix the pension debacle in Illinois.=== Pay attention, we, Rauner, are taking about the $215 million. I know you don’t want to, but that’s exactly what’s in the table. ===That was 4 years ago and he has not lifted a finger since Governor Rauner was elected to try to solve this pension problem.=== … and in “today”… Rauner vetoed $215 million, got called on it by tweeting at Chance and now Chance is making Rauner fix a veto only Rauner can do. Why aren’t you upset that Chance is making Rauner take back “lesson”, the Veto? You should be very upset with Chance. - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:39 pm: So you and Emily believe that Governor Rauner designed the current CPS funding formula and he is to blame for CPS’s problems? - Arsenal - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:42 pm: ==So you and Emily believe that Governor Rauner designed the current CPS funding formula and he is to blame for CPS’s problems?== He’s definitely to blame for his own veto. How could he not be? 40 years of previous fiscal mismanagement isn’t a blank check for another 4. - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:43 pm: And you are ignoring why CPS did not get the $215 million to fund pensions. Because the Speaker and Senate President did not pass pension reform by January as promised in the stop gap negotiation. Do you deny they agreed to? Maybe they can take a “Chance” and lift a finger now so CPS can finish out the year - Piece of Work - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:43 pm: Lucky, MJM couldn’t care less about fixing the pension problem. JSMill, your lack of awareness about your own extreme partisanship is duly noted - JS Mill - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:44 pm: =So you and Emily believe that Governor Rauner designed the current CPS funding formula and he is to blame for CPS’s problems?= I’ll answer for me: No. Also, it was under a Republican Governor and legislature that CPS was given the autonomy it now operates under and has through Republican and Democratic governors. Do you only drive on one way streets? That seems to be how you view state government. - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:48 pm: The one way street is asking for something (215 million extra state dollars) for nothing (pension reform) The one way street is the my way or the highway that runs through the Speaker’s office - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:52 pm: ===Because the Speaker and Senate President did not pass pension reform by January as promised in the stop gap negotiation. Do you deny they agreed to?=== The Judge Smails argument has no weight. Rauner owns his vetoes, no one made him veto, no one made him feel they owed it to him… Ask Rauner… Chicago Tribune… ===Sometimes in politics, emotions get involved. Gov. Bruce Rauner on Wednesday brought up emotions when discussing his December veto of legislation that would have provided $215 million for Chicago Public Schools. “You know, I’m a human being, I get a little emotional sometimes,” Rauner said at an appearance before the Chicago Tribune Editorial Board. Rauner was explaining his abrupt veto of a plan that had been part of a larger deal he struck over the summer with the Democrats who control the General Assembly — House Speaker Michael Madigan and Senate President John Cullerton.=== Rauner did it. Emotionally. You can’t have Rauner “not” own the veto and then say… it’s purposeful payback too. We went over this before - Lucky Pierre -, I know you remember, lol - Rich Miller - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:54 pm: ===by January as promised === That wasn’t the promise and, anyway, he vetoed it in December. Try again! - PoW - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 1:59 pm: Odds that Chance breaks into a rap song in the next 15 minutes?? - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 2:01 pm: Yes maybe they can try again to get pension reform passed if they want the Governor’s signature on the extra 215 million So you both believe only the Governor is at fault on this and not the Speaker and Senate President for failing to do what they promised? two more months with no pension reformed passed in the Senate or called in the house. At this rate, CPS will be done for the year before they vote on it - Arsenal - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 2:02 pm: ==And you are ignoring== Nothing. I’m not ignoring anything. But some things aren’t relevant to determining who is responsible for Rauner’s vetoes. That would be Bruce Rauner. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 2:06 pm: ===Yes maybe they can try again to get pension reform passed if they want the Governor’s signature on the extra 215 million.=== Now Chance is leaving the Governor’s Office, press in tow… How do you think “…if they want the Governor’s signature on the extra 215 million…” will work keeping Chance at bay? “Do your job!” - Chance. You’re way off here. Pandora’s box. Your first bit is going to hurt Rauner more than the Veto. ===So you both believe only the Governor is at fault on this and not the Speaker and Senate President for failing to do what they promised?=== I spoke for myself, and only myself, above. What part confused you. Which words? ===At this rate, CPS will be done for the year before they vote on it=== CPS would like to end school earlier… “Because… Rauner” Ask Chance. - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 2:06 pm: So when both parties shake hands and make a deal it is ok if one side refuses to do what they agreed to and the other party should still keep his original promise. That is the certainly sums up the worldview of democrats in Springfield these days - Arsenal - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 2:09 pm: ==So when both parties shake hands and make a deal it is ok if one side refuses to do what they agreed to and the other party should still keep his original promise.== You’ve already been told this isn’t what happened. - Arsenal - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 2:11 pm: Also, I’m not saying what “should” happen. I’m just saying we’re all responsible for our own actions, including the Governor. He’s responsible for his vetoes. He gets the credit for the ones that help people and the blame for the ones that hurt people. And when it comes to one of those ones that hurts people, don’t be surprised if the people hurt don’t really care that the Governor was worried someone else was going to break his word and got “a little emotional” about it. - Arsenal - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 2:14 pm: And it’s not like Cullerton’s going to suffer because of Rauner’s veto, or like CPS students and teachers made Rauner “a little emotional”. So this is really weird justification. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 2:27 pm: To “This”… ===“We’ve split this out twice and Governor Rauner vetoed it both times, saying it had to be tied to be part of a comprehensive solution. “Now we tie it to a comprehensive plan and he kills the deal and says it should stand alone. “I think you can see why the Senate decided to try to negotiate its own solution and not negotiate with the governor=== John Patterson continues to make the Rauner Press Show and Crew look like uninformed talking point lemmings that lack a real grasp of governing, and lack a bigger grasp at honestly telling what’s going on with negotiations. Restaurant-Quality, Patterson. Well done. - 47th Ward - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 2:34 pm: ===Restaurant-Quality, Patterson.=== Agreed. Is it too early to nominate him for another Golden Horseshoe? - Last Bull Moose - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 2:43 pm: Cullerton needs to quit negotiating. When Rauner submits a balanced budget with enabling legislation, resume negotiations. - Earnest - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 2:44 pm: >Restaurant-Quality, Patterson. Completely agree. He identified specific actions taken by Rauner and didn’t follow any OODA loops down the rabbit hole. Still, it’ll get lost in the wind if the Illinois Dems can’t get their head around a consistent message to build on. - The Captain - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 2:55 pm: No matter how bad things get I’m not getting an Instagram account. - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 3:08 pm: Can Patterson explain why the Senate can’t successfully negotiate with the Speaker? - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 3:11 pm: ===Can Patterson explain why the Senate can’t successfully negotiate with the Speaker?=== Nice try. The Speaker isn’t the issue Rauner is. Patterson told you the score, you aren’t even watching the same game - Lucky Pierre - - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 3:14 pm: - Rod - You typed a lot of pretty words, heck, you even have words that needed capital letters, you even had numbers. Chance told 134,000 viewers on Periscope… “Governor, do your job” The Ooda Loopers can’t skirt Chance’s reach. “Do your job” Globally. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 3:15 pm: My bad. Phone recycled. - Rich Miller - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 3:15 pm: ===The Speaker isn’t the issue Rauner is=== Um, yes, he is. They both are. - Earnest - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 3:16 pm: >Can Patterson explain why the Senate can’t successfully negotiate with the Speaker? As we told on a regular basis, Cullerton and Madigan have been in power for decades. There’s plenty of evidence of their ability to negotiate and pass legislation. There is no evidence of Rauner being able to successfully negotiate with anyone, from the legislature to the Comptroller’s office. I think there are better defenses to Rauner’s position than deflections and distractions, but unless there’s some kind of rival messaging out there, he may as well stick with what is working. - @MisterJayEm - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 3:19 pm: Lucky Pierre, You’ve developed the habit of using the word “so” to start many of your strawman arguments. I’m letting you know because others may also notice your little ‘tell’ and adopt a policy of ignoring your more fallacious arguments. All the best, etc., – MrJM - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 3:36 pm: “Successfully” negotiate legislation that has left Illinois with over 100 million in debt with the worst bond rating of any state. All that “success” has left Illinois with the least confidence in our state government of any state - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 4:04 pm: ===…negotiate legislation that has left Illinois with over 100 million in debt with the worst bond rating of any state. All that “success” has left Illinois with the least confidence in our state government of any state=== As you have admitted, Rauner’s own status quo phony budgets fit right in. Rauner three times had budgets in the billions out of whack. You’ve admitted so. You have no point. What else you got. - Earnest - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 4:13 pm: >“Successfully” negotiate legislation that has left Illinois with over 100 million in debt I would categorize that as deflection, redefining the word success. It does a good job of leading me away from the point of Rauner demonstrating no ability to negotiate with anyone, and I’d add his own senate leader to that list along with democrats. It’s a very effective tactic. - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 4:19 pm: Which is why the Governor has proposed a Turnaround Agenda that is being opposed tooth and nail by special interests that benefit from increasing government spending. He is also proposing policies that will make investors want to invest in Illinois to grow our economy - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 4:25 pm: ===Which is why the Governor has proposed a Turnaround Agenda that is being opposed tooth and nail by special interests that benefit from increasing government spending. He is also proposing policies that will make investors want to invest in Illinois to grow our economy=== 1.4% growth, $500+ million, by Rauner’s own number to cover Billions of out of whack, phony, status quo Rauner budgets. Again, what else you got? You are not making any argument. Rauner’s own numbers ruin your narratives - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 4:34 pm: Ok Willy you win don’t change anything just raise taxes and call it a day. Who cares if population leaves and companies relocate to other states like they have been doing for years. All that matters is what democrats special interests want. Rauner should get no concessions and whatever the Speaker wants he should get. That has been your argument. No blame for the Speaker or anyone else, just the Governor - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 4:39 pm: ===…you win don’t change anything just raise taxes and call it a day. Who cares if population leaves and companies relocate to other states like they have been doing for years. All that matters is what democrats special interests want. Rauner should get no concessions and whatever the Speaker wants he should get. That has been your argument. No blame for the Speaker or anyone else, just the Governor=== “Finally, after exausting all his taking points, and straining whatever flawed logic - Lucky Pierre - had left, LP busts out the victim hood and lights a match to the all the refuted LP points” - Earnest - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 4:42 pm: >All that matters is what democrats special interests want. Rauner should get no concessions For a brief moment, what the Republican caucus in the Senate mattered, until Rauner quashed it. - Honeybear - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 4:45 pm: Rauner should order the early release of the EDGE tax incentive report for 2016. That would prove that he isn’t motivated by special interests right? I stand by the Meals on Wheels special interest. Governor release the report so we see who you stand by. - Lucky Pierre - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 4:47 pm: If you think the Turnaround Agenda is status quo you would support it because you don’t want to change the status quo - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 4:50 pm: - Lucky Pierre - If I were you I’d be more upset being duped. You thought you were ending the status quo, Rauner is the status quo. Why aren’t you upset? lol - btowntruth from forgottonia - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 5:01 pm: Going to quote a better man (OW) than I: “Governors own.” - Parisite - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 5:16 pm: Brett Eldredge is from Paris. Luke Bryan from Georgia. Like the way your thinking though. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 5:22 pm: - btowntruth from forgottonia -, Appreciate the very kind words. It’s an old rule. Same as it ever was. Rauner can’t change it. Rauner owns the good too. But, Rauner things owning messaging is the answer. It never is, was, or will be. Governors own. - blue dog dem - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 6:38 pm: If anyone cares, I don’t want any more of my, or my kids tax dollars going to bail out CPS. - facts are stubborn things - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 7:45 pm: Rauner must learn to govern and do what is doable. 30- 60 matters. - Blago's Hare - Monday, Mar 6, 17 @ 10:17 pm: Blue Dog Dem - The more I read your comments, the more I enjoy your perspective. Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.