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What the governor was talking about yesterday
Wednesday, Mar 8, 2017 - Posted by Rich Miller * If you click here, you’ll see two budget proposal outlines. The first column is the Senate Republicans’ plan, the second is the Senate Democrats’ plan. Now scroll down and you’ll see this. Remember, the SGOP proposal is on the left and the Senate Democrats’ proposal is on the right…  As you can see, the Senate Democrats want about $800 million in unspecified cuts to operations, grants and undefined whatevers, while the Republicans want “only” about $600 million in unspecified cuts. * As we’ve already discussed, the governor said this yesterday…
There are some cuts in the Senate proposals, but there’s also a whole lot of what could be described as magic dust.
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- Sir Reel - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 10:30 am:
Once again Fearless Leader issues a half baked drive by comment that doesn’t even reflect the facts.
What. A. Joke.
- Michelle Flaherty - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 10:31 am:
At some point isn’t the governor supposed to recommend cuts to his agencies? If the GA does it all for him, why do we need him?
He is quickly becoming the most high-profile lieutenant governor the state has ever had.
- lake county democrat - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 10:34 am:
I have no problem with unspecified cuts as long as 1) there’s bipartisan agreement and 2) they’re binding: it worked for the federal budget with sequestration (brought deficit down, Democrats’ predicted parade of horribles never happened, Obama would tout the success during the 2012 campaign). It’s a lot easier to vote for budget cuts that aren’t specified than are.
- How - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 10:37 am:
Where do the group health savings come from with the courts saying Rauner’s offer cannot be implemented during judicial review?
- Union Man - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 10:52 am:
Looks like the GOP wants to cut health insurance 31% more than the Democrats want.
Illinois would be better off if the entire state supported nationalized healthcare and passed the $8 BILLION we spend here on to the Feds.
It’s our largest expense, bar none.
- Ricky Bobby - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 10:58 am:
What is this tier 3? I thought tier 2 was a train wreck, doubling down on it now?
- Bobby Catalpa - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 10:58 am:
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He is quickly becoming the most high-profile lieutenant governor the state has ever had.
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Chronic impotence kicked in when he realized politics isn’t like business and, no, you just can’t mess things up for fun and profit.
It was a teachable moment. Rauner, apparently, wasn’t listening.
- VanillaMan - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 11:08 am:
At what point do we stop listening to what this governor says?
His actions expose what he says as lies.
“-that’s pretty critical.”
Two years of critical governance has been put aside for a selfish immoral political win. Consequently, I don’t believe Rauner knows what the word critical even means.
- BK Bro - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 11:21 am:
Semi-good news. I would be totally in favor of some kind of sequester system like Congress enacted on itself. So far, the sequester HAS resulted in cuts, resisting the pressures that specific interest groups put on Congress to keep their slice of the pie.
It might be the only way to enact serious cuts in Illinois. You’re going to have AFSCME, non-profits, local governments, various business interests, etc. Give the Pols an excuse to ignore them via the sequester.
- NoGifts - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 11:22 am:
Higher ed below fy15? Pass the cost on to individual students when we already know there is a student loan crisis on our hands? Truly a shame that the democrats would let the republicans drive the outcome there.
- RNUG - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 11:42 am:
== What is this tier 3? I thought tier 2 was a train wreck, doubling down on it now? ==
The proposed Tier 3 is the so called 401K plan. Personally, I wouldn’t be counting any savings from it.
- The Real Just Me - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 11:45 am:
I’m sorry I don’t understand. Please help me. The SDems offered the SRepubs “more” spending cuts than what the SRepubs wanted and that was not “enough” for the SRepubs. Really, can somebody explain?
- Former Merit Comp - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 12:09 pm:
I miss Schnorf. Would love to hear his thoughts
- Lucky Pierre - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 12:35 pm:
Tier 3 sure sounds better than Tier 2
- JS Mill - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 12:45 pm:
=Tier 3 sure sounds better than Tier 2=
Right, because it may cost..more?
There is that math thingy…. again.
- zatoichi - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 1:34 pm:
“they don’t make any real spending cuts,” Rauner said.” Rauner is free to announce any specific cuts he wishes to make everything balance any time he wants. He does not have to wait for ‘they’ to do it.
- Lucky Pierre - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 1:52 pm:
JS Mill
Tier 3 would be much better for the employee and I would take a fixed expense in the current year versus a future promise that politicians can’t keep, That has not worked out very well for either party.
The Fortune 500 companies saw the writing on the wall 25 years ago, and stopped offering defined benefit pension plans.
Governments still have their heads buried in the sand.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 2:01 pm:
== The Fortune 500 companies saw the writing on the wall 25 years ago … ==
The Fortune 500 companies wanted to raid their overfunded defined benefits pension plans … and government let them, either with rules changes or allowing questionable mergers and bankruptcy proceedings that then raided the funds.
- Last Bull Moose - Wednesday, Mar 8, 17 @ 6:11 pm:
This is crazy. The Democrats are buying into the phony savings from pension reform.
Acts like this just lessen their credibility, which is already Low.
- Late to the Party - Thursday, Mar 9, 17 @ 7:11 am:
I *always* balance my monthly budget using the two categories of Unspecified and Unidentified. It works well. My credit card balances are skyrocketing but my budget is balanced (on paper). /s