Local react to Las Vegas shootings
Monday, Oct 2, 2017 - Posted by Rich Miller
* Congressman Brad Schneider…
“I’m horrified by the senseless shooting last night in Las Vegas. This violence sears our hearts and leaves countless families forever, tragically changed.
“I extend my sincere condolences to all those who lost loved ones and send prayers for recovery to those wounded. And I’m grateful for the professionalism and bravery of law enforcement and first responders during and after this attack.
“Words and prayers are not enough for Las Vegas and other victims of gun violence across our country. We must come together to tackle this epidemic. Enough is enough.”
* Congressman Bill Foster…
We woke up to unimaginable news this morning. We stand in solidarity with Las Vegas today. We will mourn those we lost too soon and will keep their families and friends close to our hearts. But we cannot accept these tragedies as normal. There is no reason why a fun night at a concert should turn into a death sentence. We owe it to the memory of everyone who died to make sure we do everything we can to prevent another mass shooting.
* More on Twitter…
I’ll post more as they come in.
…Adding… US Sen. Duckworth…
“My heart goes out to the victims of the tragic shooting in Las Vegas last night and their loved ones. Such senseless and horrifying acts of violence have no place in America or any other nation. The law enforcement officers and first responders who put their lives on the line to protect others deserve our solemn thanks for their bravery and courage in the face of the deadliest shooting in our country’s history.”
* Congressman Kinzinger…
“This morning, we woke up to horrific news of a senseless attack in Las Vegas, with more than 50 lives taken in an act of pure evil. I send my deepest condolences to the families and loved ones of the victims. And my thoughts and prayers are with the injured and all those involved in this tragedy.
“Thank you to the first responders, local law enforcement, and the medical personnel in Las Vegas – their work and heroic actions saved lives. As a nation, we mourn this horrific, senseless tragedy and we stand together against this vile act of hate.”
* More from the Kennedy campaign…
“Our thoughts are with the victims of last night’s mass shooting and with the countless families who now face a lifetime of heartache and grief. We must stop the violence that plagues our communities, our state and our country. We need leadership that brings us together to heal, instead of leadership that divides us to foster hate.”
* US Rep. Robin Kelly…
Just who and how many have to die from gun violence?
Background checks, gun trafficking, straw purchases, military weapons , access to mental health, Congress we have got to step up and stop hiding behind the Second Amendment.
Kids can’t play outside or walk to the store.
You can’t go to a concert, movie theater or practice for a charity baseball game.
I know nothing will solve everything but we have got to start somewhere!!
I am not against the Second Amendment, so do not suggest that, but senseless gun violence cannot continue and we must act.
* US Rep. Jan Schakowsky…
“Unspeakable violence terrorized and devastated Las Vegas last night. I cannot imagine the fear and horror that was experienced by tens of thousands of concertgoers outside of the Mandalay Bay Hotel. My thoughts today are with every victim, anyone injured, all those in attendance, and anyone whose loved ones were affected by this national tragedy.
“Only a year and a few months after the Pulse Nightclub shooting in Orlando, our country has a harrowing new record for the worst mass shooting in our history. Back home in Chicago, our city has seen close to 500 people murdered by guns so far in 2017. As a country, we cannot accept this as the new normal. Gun violence is a scourge and an epidemic, and it requires bold legislative action. We cannot continue to make excuses. Federal comprehensive gun safety legislation must be a national priority.”
- Amalia - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 9:41 am:
Prayers and healing thoughts for the victims who were injured and all who were terrified and for the first responders who had/still have a horrible situation to handle.
- wordslinger - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 9:45 am:
How do you walk into a busy hotel with ten rifles and all that load? Just the weight and bulk would require a few trips from the car.
- Grandson of Man - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 9:47 am:
Just horrible. Heartsick this morning. My thoughts and prayers go out to victims, their families, police and first responders, and everyone else who sacrifices for our safety and security.
- Nick Name - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 9:48 am:
What Wordslinger said. Did no one notice this guy hauling enough weapons and ammo to fill an armory up to his room?
- thunderspirit - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 9:59 am:
Nevada is a no permit, open/concealed carry state. I’d bet no one batted an eye at nearly a dozen firearms.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:06 am:
So horrific, what has happened in Las Vegas. I don’t even know where to begin to think who could do such a thing.
Heartbreaking and sincere condolences to all the victims and their families and friends. Keeping them all in my thoughts and prayers, including Las Vegas, as we all learn more about this horrific tragedy.
- Anonymous - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:08 am:
‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
- Former Hillrod - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:13 am:
@ Wordslinger
How does anyone move large, bulky bags from the car to the room? With those large wheeled carts provided by the hotel. A couple of large wheeled duffle bags can carry lots of stuff, even a number of long guns.
- Sonny - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:13 am:
The bellhop probably helped or they used a cart.
The real problem is that the laws are out of control and nothing is going to change. A complete maniac stalked and tried to mow down an entire baseball team of Congressmen for Pete’s sake and nothing happened. It’s sick but the “majority party” in DC is going to do jack because a part of their base thinks they have the god given right to an automatic weapons arsenal for some fictional uprising in the offing and/or for hunting and recreation and/or just because.
- 360 Degree TurnAround - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:23 am:
If nothing was done after Sandy Hook…nothing will be done after this. I still fear sending my kids to school.
- Toast - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:24 am:
It was only a matter of time before the misinformed started bleating about gun control. Full auto has been illegal since the days of Al Capone unless you have a federal license, not easy to obtain.
- Blue dog dem - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:29 am:
Heart wrenching.
- Nick - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:35 am:
Unfortunately I ran out of thoughts and prayers two years ago. No more left to give.
- VanillaMan - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:40 am:
This was all planned well in advance. The right room, the right angle, the right concert - this was all pre-planned.
It’s challenging to have had something in place that would have prevented this attack. If it can happen in strict gun control countries in Western Europe, it can definately happen here.
Remember 77 lives were gunned down in Norway, of all places, by another shooter who planned to kill as many as possible.
- We'll See - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:45 am:
-Toast- if you elect to go all 2nd amendment please be sure to include the first part too “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,…” You folks always seem to leave that off.
- 47th Ward - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:49 am:
Toast, you’re wrong. Fully automatic rifles are restricted, not illegal and nearly 400,000 remain privately owned. The law restricting fully automatic weapons was passed in 1986. So back to the days of Reagan, not Capone.
https://oig.justice.gov/reports/ATF/e0706/back.htm
- Blue dog dem - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:50 am:
There always is a place for the gun debate. I understand. But can we wait a few days.
- redraider - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:51 am:
Toast, all owners of these weapons were ” grandfathered” in when the law changed. Apparently you are one of those fond of creating the ” misinformed”
- wordslinger - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:53 am:
VMan, it happened once in Norway. Mass shootings are common in the United States.
- Jocko - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:56 am:
I’d love to see something good come from all this senseless killing (limits on magazines, national gun registry, additional insurance policy for gun ownership), but I’ve grown cynical after Sandy Hook.
- Nick - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:59 am:
Blue Dog Dem,
When there’s another shooting in a few days, will the debate need to be pushed back even further because it would be too soon after that one?
- Blue dog dem - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:01 am:
Nick. Peace be with you and all those touched by this senseless tragedy.
- Cheryl44 - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:03 am:
My understanding is it’s extremely easy to turn a legal semi- into a fully automatic weapon. Legal or not, there are lots of people who own them.
- PJ - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:07 am:
===There always is a place for the gun debate. I understand. But can we wait a few days.===
This comment always frankly sickens me. We are the only nation in the WORLD where mass shootings happen at this rate. We’re also one of the only developed nations where obtaining legal firearms is pretty easy.
This won’t stop happening until we do something about it. People are going to keep dying. So when people say “this isn’t the right time to talk about it”, let me ask - when is the right time? After the next massacre? Or the one after that?
I understand that this may seem harsh, and that you were just asking for a few days. But it’s a variation on a classic theme; we shouldn’t talk about why all those people died, because it would be disrespectful to the dead.
I’d rather focus on keeping the next 50 alive. Shooting, politicians release statements praying for the victims, we all forget about it, nothing changes, then it happens again.
I want to talk about it now.
- LINK - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:13 am:
Thoughts, prayers and condolences to all involved.
Putting the issue of firearms aside, what forces lead to someone committing such a heinous crime against their fellow man, whether it be by firearm, vehicles, or any number of methods?
That seems to be the crux of our dilemma in dealing with these events…or preventing them as best we can.
Again, it’s incomprehensible to me, and I would venture a guess to many others, just what the people in Las Vegas experienced. My heart goes out to all who are directly, and even indirectly, impacted.
- wordslinger - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:15 am:
BDD, do you need a few days to collect your “thoughts and prayers?” I’d think they’d be at hand by now. It’s like saying “geusendtheit” when someone sneezes. And just as meaningful.
- 360 Degree TurnAround - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:21 am:
Thoughts and prayers are nice. Thoughts and prayers can kiss the kids goodnight now that a parent has been killed. Maybe a thought or prayer can walk a daughter down the aisle of her wedding. Maybe a thought or prayer can read to the deceased children.
- Toast - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:26 am:
47th, research the NFA and get back to me.
Red, nothing is grandfathered in when it comes to full auto, you must possess a federal license and the weapons are registered with the feds.
- 47th Ward - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:41 am:
Toast, just admit you were wrong, and also foolish to call others misinformed.
- Anonymous - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:41 am:
@ 10:13 am: The real problem is that the laws are out of control and nothing is going to change.
The gunman was out of control. He just chose not to follow the law. What law can you pass that guarantees out of control people will follow?
- redraider - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:42 am:
Toast, please give me the dates of when the federal Government went out and took all of the firearms outlawed in the gun bill off of the streets and out of the gun owners hands. I will patiently wait
- Rich Miller - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:43 am:
===What law can you pass that guarantees out of control people will follow? ===
You could say that about any random law.
- hisgirlfriday - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:46 am:
Can Kinzinger and other IL GOPers commit to voting no on loosening restrictions on gun silencers in the wake of this tragedy that would have been even worse without the sound of gunshots letting people know they should run?
There is a House GOP bill up to preempt states and localities from regulating silencers that previously got held up after Scalise being shot
- Anonymous - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:49 am:
I guess you could. So it’s not a problem with the laws, it’s a problem enforcing the laws.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 11:59 am:
===it’s a problem enforcing the laws===
And if there are no laws?
- Graduated College Student - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:00 pm:
===There always is a place for the gun debate. I understand. But can we wait a few days. ===
No. No we cannot. You want to honor the victims? Don’t give them thoughts and prayers. Work to make it harder for there to be another mass shooting. Contact your legislators. Because thoughts and prayers don’t bring back the dead, influence legislators, or stop guns from falling into the hands of those who would commit a mass shooting.
- Streator Curmudgeon - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:06 pm:
Heard on WBBM radio this morning there is an increase in buying of firearm manufacturer stocks. The reporter said this often happens after a mass shooting because people buy guns out of fear or because they think there might be a ban on certain firearms.
- 360 Degree TurnAround - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:07 pm:
Just tax the holy heck out of bullets and be done with it. That way gun people can keep their guns. But if you want to shoot them off, it will cost you. And you better be a good shot when you go hunting. Imagine if each shot cost you $500.
- walker - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:08 pm:
Pretty hard to kill 50 people with a knife or club from 32 stories up.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:16 pm:
===Pretty hard to kill 50 people with a knife or club from 32 stories up. ===
And a “good guy with a gun” couldn’t have stopped it, either.
- Nick Name - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:20 pm:
@BDD:
“There always is a place for the gun debate. I understand. But can we wait a few days.”
The only people who don’t want mass shootings politicized are the gun lobby and its legions of supporters. I wonder why that is.
But here it is: Sandy Hook marked the end of the U.S. gun control debate. Once America decided killing children was bearable, it was over.
Thanks, gun lobby and gun lobby toadies.
- Texas Red - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:23 pm:
Prayers to the dead and injured in this terrible crime, and I would suggest those able to offer a monetary donation to the Southern Nevada chapter of the American Red Cross.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:25 pm:
I just cannot fathom how you can watch this video and say nothing should be done. Something has gotta change. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDeUzatoUhs
- Blue dog dem - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:27 pm:
In December,2015 , mrs. Blue and myself were witnesses to a horrific scene of violence in Las Vegas. Since that time, the city has taken some precautions to help prevent a similar occurance. I believe the technology exits at these massive hotel/casinos to also prevent tragedies like this from occurring.
- We'll See - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:29 pm:
In February, the POTUS killed regulation that would have tightened gun background checks — his predecessor’s executive actions following the San Bernardino shootings in 2015. The rule required the Social Security Administration to submit records of mentally disabled people to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.
And the NRA cheered!
- kimocat - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:31 pm:
Rich took the words out of my mouth — so much for the good guy with a gun nonsense. We will always have angry loners, depressed jerks, and all other kinds of emotionally disturbed people in this country. They should not be able to get their hands on weapons like this. Nobody should! That’s why we have law enforcement. It’s got to stop.
- Flapdoodle - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:34 pm:
As a gun owner who carries a concealed weapon wherever that is legal: There is no absolute right to anything under the Constitution. If we can regulate the time, place, and manner of free speech, we can regulate who acquires guns and the types of guns available. And we must do so, no matter how hopeless it seems. What better way to honor the memories of the victims in LV, Orlando, San Bernardino, Sandy Hook, Columbine and so many other places?
- walker - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:53 pm:
Impressive on the tapes I’ve seen, were the individuals standing up under fire to point out the shooter, (probably veterans), and the cops running toward the location. Apparantly the first EMT fire responders saved many additional.
- Anonymous - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:58 pm:
I’m not suggesting that there be no laws, laws are good. Blaming the law is dumb because the law wasn’t obeyed by the shooter. The blame needs to be on the guy who did the act.
This, and many other incidents like it was stopped when a good guy with a gun showed up at his door. Even though weapons aren’t allowed at concerts and nobody at the venue was armed with a concealed handgun, it’s kind of silly to think a handgun is a match for a rifle capable of accurate shots at 400 yards. And no reasonable person would think they could have stopped the attack with a handgun from that distance.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 12:58 pm:
===Something has gotta change.===
There is enough of a window where we are and what can be done to bring more oversight within the law and still guarantee constitutional rights.
I say this because states all have different gun laws, still constitutionally sound, but varied to their potency and application within each state.
We can, as a country can do better. We need to see that we can do better too.
- We'll See - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:12 pm:
-Anonymous @ 12:58 pm-
Thanks for not pulling out the silly “guns don’t kill people, people kill people.”
Today, that would be a little difficult to hear as we know the guns used by the kill resulted in 58 dead and 500 injured.
So now can we all acknowledge that guns do indeed kill people?
- Rich Miller - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:13 pm:
===when a good guy with a gun showed up at his door===
It was stopped when the bad guy shot himself.
- Toast - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:14 pm:
## I just cannot fathom how you can watch this video and say nothing should be done. ##
Passing legislation based on emotion rather than logic is never a good idea.
- Amalia - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:14 pm:
there is a big gun show coming up in Las Vegas. (there are always some, and open carry + other more lax gun laws than in Illinois = very different than here.) that show will get lots of scrutiny. also explains why no one blinks when there are guns being brought into rooms.
I don’t imagine that if the shooter were a person who looks like most of Isis that there would be any give from the NRA. And there’s always the “he’s —gee, virtually always he—mentally ill” qualifier. so they are of little use in the dialogue. the common denominator is always guns. in this case something either actually fully automatic, or rigged to be so, which is illegal. Silencers in Illinois? Dealer licensing? More authorities to give this all a look. It is not too soon to talk about it because people just keep dying. THIS is domestic terrorism. On the plus side, maybe now Trump will actually want to talk about Puerto Rico instead of facing the fact that the NRA needs to bend.
- Toast - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:15 pm:
47th, I don’t think I’m the one having a problem admitted they’re wrong.
- We'll See - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:17 pm:
-Toast @1:14PM-
Please share some of your “logic” with us, I sure you have no emotion on this subject.
- Robert the 1st - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:37 pm:
From the different videos I watched, it sounded like the bad guy had automatic rifles. Time will tell but I’d be very surprised if this guy legally owned machine guns.
- 47th Ward - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:37 pm:
Lol Toast,
You said:
“Full auto has been illegal since the days of Al Capone unless you have a federal license,”
I attached a link with a DoJ report that contradicted what you said. A bigger man would acknowledge that he mis-spoke and clarify his remarks in light of new evidence.
If you read my link, you’d know that fully automatic rifles are still available for purchase. There are almost 400,000 owned by private owners, who are free to sell them to other private citizens. Yes, when ownership changes, the transfer has to be registered with the Feds, but that’s a paperwork thing, hardly a great burden.
And all of this is a distraction from the issue at hand: that our lax to non-existent gun laws allow mass shootings like this to be so common that they’ve lost all shock value. We’re numb to the senseless violence that goes on seemingly everyday.
- Anonymous - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:43 pm:
= It was stopped when the bad guy shot himself. =
This has happened numerous times when the good guys show up.
- We'll See - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:44 pm:
- Toast @ 1:14 pm:
“Passing legislation based on emotion rather than logic is never a good idea.”
So, the current bill in the US House that would allow gun silencers will go down because of emotion or logic?
I can’t imagine the numbers of dead and wounded if those were used last night.
- Robert the 1st - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:45 pm:
Good link 47th Ward. I’m no expert on gun laws but I’m fairly confident any automatic guns legally owned by private citizens are grandfathered in collectibles. So unless this shooter was using WWII era Tommy Guns or BARs, his arsenal was likely illegal.
- We'll See - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:48 pm:
- Anonymous 1:43 pm”
“This has happened numerous times when the good guys show up.”
You me the police — the well regulated Militia part of the Second Amendment.
- Anonymous - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 1:51 pm:
You mean the State Police? These cops were locals.
- Anonymous - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 2:09 pm:
In the video it sounds more like a bump stock than a automatic weapon.
And anybody can buy one of those for about 40 bucks
- redraider - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 2:54 pm:
Toast,the NRA has used emotion over logic to have legislation passed to expand gun rights and the United States declared war on Japan 24 hours after Pearl Harbor. By the way, I am still waiting for the information requested above?
- Amalia - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 2:58 pm:
National silencer bill. More lives would have been lost if there had been a silencer used in Las Vegas. there are Members of Congress in Illinois who will vote for this bill unless they are called and told otherwise. do that folks.
- Mama - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 3:08 pm:
Fully automatic rifles are restricted, but semi-automatic rifles are not. It is my understanding that semi-automatic rifle can be converted into a fully automatic weapon. Can someone tell me why private citizens need a semi-automatic weapon?
- wndycty - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 3:19 pm:
So Sarah Huckabee Sanders tried to drag Chicago into it and Rep. Kelly responded. . .https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20171002/downtown/most-of-chicagos-illegal-guns-come-from-trump-country-rep-says
- Grandson of Man - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 3:20 pm:
Fate is piling it on today. Tom Petty just passed away. Sigh.
- Robert the 1st - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 3:20 pm:
Was the Aurora theater shooting somehow less heinous since the shooter used a pump-action firearm vs semi-auto?
- Grandson of Man - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 3:24 pm:
One person allegedly shot almost 600 people. One person. Six hundred people.
- Anonymous - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 3:28 pm:
Boy, you would think Trump Country would have the kind of gun violence numbers Chicago does.
- We'll See - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 3:38 pm:
“Boy, you would think Trump Country would have the kind of gun violence numbers Chicago does.”
Nope, I’ve been to Trump Country and it has its very own problems.
- Texas Red - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 4:03 pm:
Since 47th keep s harping on this issue I thought this might add some context..
“So what about pre-1986 machine guns? Are civilians permitted to own those? Yes, with a host of exceptions. The pre-1986 machine guns may be sold only by a FFL/SOT and must be registered with the ATF. Easy peasy, right? Not really. The process of registering a NFA item with the ATF is costly, invasive, and time-consuming. Federal law requires extensive background checks of anyone wishing to own a NFA item such as a machine gun. If you wanted to purchase a machine gun today, it would take close to a year, and you would be required to submit fingerprints and a photo to accompany your background check. Each NFA item also requires its own tax stamp, which costs $200. Once the ATF decides that an individual is permitted by law to own a NFA item, it adds that individual’s name, address, and biographical information to a federal gun registry and matches it to the serial number of the licensed NFA item. This goes for every item listed in the NFA, not just machine guns. Individuals with NFA items are then required to notify the ATF when they move and any time they plan to travel outside their state of residence with the NFA item.”
- walker - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 4:12 pm:
The gunfire I heard was full automatic. Apparently he had 10 or more long guns, and could well have had semi-automatic weapons as well.
- 47th Ward - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 4:15 pm:
I didn’t know I was harping on anything, but thanks for proving my point, T-Red.
Automatic rifles have not been banned in the U.S.
You hear my comments in a woman’s voice, don’t you Red?
- wordslinger - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 4:25 pm:
–The blame needs to be on the guy who did the act.–
Thanks for the insight, Einstein.
Any chance we can look into ways to prevent a lunatic from walking into a hotel with 20 rifles and thousands of rounds of load?
Don’t want to step on your “freedom” of letting other people get massacred.
Because there’s at least 58 dead and 500 wounded.
If the dude had been from Iran or North Korea, we’d be bombing the stuff out of them now.
- Arthur Andersen - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 4:27 pm:
Anon 2:09, I don’t know what a bump stock is but I do know that absolutely no one thinks that it was anything but full automatic fire.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 4:29 pm:
=== I don’t know what a bump stock is===
This company calls it “freedom unleashed” https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=21&v=x0f7OCnrrpk
- Toast - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 5:57 pm:
47th, give it a rest. No one said they were banned, but there are people of a certain political persuasion who think you can walk into Walmart and come out with an m60. You can’t, all full autos are very difficult to obtain.
- wordslinger - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 6:04 pm:
–No one said they were banned, but there are people of a certain political persuasion who think you can walk into Walmart and come out with an m60. You can’t, all full autos are very difficult to obtain.–
What’s your “political persuasion?” Pro-easy-massacre?
You think your spin is some some dazzling distraction to the news of the day?
No worries, as long as it’s “other people.”
Because “freedom.”
- 47th Ward - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 6:36 pm:
Toast, words have meaning.
“Full auto has been illegal since the days of Al Capone”
Those are your words.
You’re welcome.
- Toast - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 6:53 pm:
My post:
Full auto has been illegal since the days of Al Capone unless you have a federal license, not easy to obtain.
Typical of a political hack, twisting the words of others to suit your agenda.
Nothing dazzling here Wordslinger, just enough common sense to blame the perp and not the tool that he used.
- California Guy - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 7:01 pm:
A bump stock is a novelty item. Anyone that’s ever used one knows that it is not a practical way to use a weapon. Also, I doubt this dude had 20k to drop on a FFL-registered full auto rifle.
Anyways, RIP to the days where we could all go to a concert and let our hair down. Expect to see lawmakers “fix the problem” by beefing up TSA-style security, more gun control, and more surveillance. It’s crazy how willing political leaders are to strip everyone of their rights so they can look like the did their job. I’m not saying that Nevada will go full George Orwell, but I can totally see them taking the security side in “security” over “rights/privacy” debate.
- 47th Ward - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 7:18 pm:
Toast, the Department of Justice disagrees with you. Are they all political hacks too, or merely misinformed?
You didn’t read the link I posted, did you?
- Redraider - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 7:55 pm:
Toast, I am still waiting for you to tell me when all these guns were taken
- wordslinger - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 8:25 pm:
Gee, California Guy, my thoughts and prayers are with you as you worry that today’s massacre might cramp your style in the future when you want to “let your hair down.”
Be strong, about these threats that have not happened to you and your hair. Long may it hang.
- Robert the 1st - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 9:20 pm:
The local crew didn’t disappoint. Self-identified Democratic lobbyists doing their thing. Barf.
- 47th Ward - Monday, Oct 2, 17 @ 10:34 pm:
===The local crew didn’t disappoint. Self-identified Democratic lobbyists doing their thing. Barf.===
Don’t put this on the “local crew.” I’m the only self-identified Democratic lobbyist on this thread. You can address your comments to me. After you clean yourself up.
- Blue dog dem - Tuesday, Oct 3, 17 @ 7:08 am:
47th. I knew you had issues, but a lobbyist?
LOL
- Anonymous - Tuesday, Oct 3, 17 @ 8:58 am:
Back on topic… obviously the gun laws didn’t work. What new laws would work? Haven’t we pretty much tried all the gun laws we can get away with already?