* The three Republican governors who appeared in Gov. Bruce Rauner’s new TV ad are getting a bit of grief from Democrats in their home states…
The three governors say the troubles in Illinois have created new jobs in Wisconsin, Indiana and Missouri. The ad debuted Tuesday, October 24th.
“Our economy’s on fire…so we owe you,” [Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker] says. “Cheeseheads love you, Madigan.”
Democrats said Walker should focus on his own job and improve Wisconsin’s slow economic growth.
“Gov. Walker cutting an attack ad on jobs in Illinois is a bizarre move for a guy who broke his 2010 promise to create 250,000 jobs in here by 2014 and still hasn’t gotten to that number in 2017,” said Scot Ross, executive director of the liberal group One Wisconsin Now.
* NW Indiana Times…
Rauner donated $100,000 of his own money to Holcomb’s campaign last year immediately after Indiana’s then-lieutenant governor secured the Republican nomination for the state’s top job.
Indiana Democratic Party Chairman John Zody wasn’t impressed by Holcomb’s appearance in Rauner’s ad.
“Gov. Holcomb is implying his party’s policies aren’t responsible for growing good-paying jobs in Indiana, and he’s right about that,” Zody said. “Fact is, Indiana remains 38th in per capita income, and there is no plan to grow wages at the Statehouse — except to study the pay of state elected officials.”
* Missouri Democratic Party…
In the latest example of Governor Greitens caring more about out-of-state politicians and wealthy campaign donors than working Missourians, the Missouri Democratic Party is highlighting that Greitens recently focused his attention on shooting a TV ad for an Illinois politician who gave $100,000 to his campaign last year.
In the TV ad for Illinois Governor Bruce Rauner, Eric Greitens talks directly to the camera, along with other anti-worker politicians like Governor Scott Walker, in an attempt to explain why the Republican Governor of Illinois should not be blamed for the state’s economic problems.
“When Eric Greitens promised he’d be an outsider, who would of guessed he literally meant he’d spend all his time and attention outside of Missouri?” said Missouri Democratic Party Chair Stephen Webber. “But then again, we’re not surprised he found a way to step in front of a camera – especially in an attempt to help another politician and wealthy campaign donor.”
Thoughts on these responses?
- Annonin' - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 11:44 am:
Funny that GovJunk did not fact check a little better but then he only paid his characters $100K each.
Hard to get good help
- Anon - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 11:46 am:
Democrats attack Republicans for campaigning for Republicans. Nothing new here.
- Arsenal - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 11:46 am:
It was a fraught concept for an ad from the get-go, but I’m surprised at how much pushback it’s already getting. I thought it was going to be one of the slow-burn-leave-a-bad-taste-in-the-mouth kind of things.
- JohnDeereMade - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 11:52 am:
Missouri democratic party…didn’t realize Second City opened another comedy act.
- Retired Educator - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 11:56 am:
The Governors of those states would be better served taking care of business in their own back yard. We the People will make our own decision for Governor. If I valued their input into how Illinois is run, their opinion would matter. We don’t need the help, Thanks anyway.
- Chris Widger - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 11:57 am:
Opposition party says opposing things. They have to do this because politics is sports and disingenuity is required for the job (I mean that seriously and not critically). Surely they could have come up with something harsher than “focus on our state” and “don’t help allied politicians and wealthy donors.”
- Chris Widger - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 11:58 am:
==We don’t need the help==
Not that these other governors are earnestly interested in helping Illinois, but it is extremely clear that we need the help.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:01 pm:
Walker running on his own “record” was one of the first to drop out for President. Maybe Wisconsinites have a point. Focus on home?
The other two are newly minted. They need to find how far they can go away from their own borders before feeling that state pull back the leash.
All they said Rauner is inept, so I really can’t see why their home states are angry. Rauner is helping, and the Guvs are thanking Madigan for continually making Rauner lose.
- JohnDeereMade - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:01 pm:
The ad was popular down here at the local union hall. But Rauner aint no peach either.
Doubt the historic Il 17 ever votes for Madigan again though. We are a hurtin and I don’t see no reinforcements comin.
- PJ - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:03 pm:
===Missouri democratic party===
The senior Senator from Missouri is a Democrat.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:04 pm:
===The ad was popular down here at the local union hall. But Rauner aint no peach either.
Doubt the historic Il 17 ever votes for Madigan again though. We are a hurtin and I don’t see no reinforcements comin.===
LOL…
Yeah, Rauner, the champion of unions, beloved in Union Halls.
If that’s all even remotely true, and y’all are “with” Rauner in this, y’all haven’t paid any attention to Bruce Rauner.
This is embarrassing for me to read… for you.
- wordslinger - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:04 pm:
Maybe Rauner should emulate Walker and
Greitens and push graduated income taxes like they have with their fat top rates.
Or Holcombe, with Indiana’s county income taxes on top of state income taxes.
- Anonymous - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:05 pm:
Was at a fundraiser last night for a local official. When I say that ad was the most talked about topic of the night I’m not kidding. Republicans-Democrats- union guys all in attendance and not one thought it wasn’t effective. Like it or not it’s getting people’s attention
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:06 pm:
===Doubt the historic Il 17 ever votes for Madigan again…===
“…historic IL 17th…” voting for Mike Madigan?
What election?
Go take a nap. For your own sake
- JohnDeereMade - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:07 pm:
Rauner won our district and if I re call. And i dont under stand y you keep telling me you lots of love for me.
I got a wife and I am plain jane happy with her, thank u.
- Harry - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:10 pm:
It’s all partisan politics–Rauner gave them money, they gave him material for an ad, Democrats in their home states jump on them for it.
This is not news, but as with most politics these days, it is demeaning and makes me feel dirty for having been exposed to it.
- JohnDeereMade - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:10 pm:
Doc tells me naps before lunch could worsen my gout so I wait till around Jeopardy to start before I do so.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:13 pm:
===Republicans-Democrats- union guys all in attendance and not one thought it wasn’t effective.===
Really?
What Union? Trade?
I can’t imagine many Union folk thinking, especially Walker, he’s the person to set Illinois straight, lol
- 19th ward guy - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:14 pm:
Willy. Time for some decaf coffee.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:16 pm:
===Time for some decaf coffee.===
I’m good. Add to the topic where you can. Thanks.
- 47th Ward - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:19 pm:
===who would of guessed he literally meant ===
It’s would have, or would’ve for short. Must be a Cardinals fan.
- DeseDemDose - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:22 pm:
Rauner wants to cut Union pensions. Wonder who believes that’s popular a the Union Hall.Yee Haw.
- Newsclown - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:22 pm:
Well, this will really put a dent in Mike Madigan’s campaign for Governor… wait, what? He’s not running for Governor? Has someone told Bruce?
- Chicago 20 - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:28 pm:
Walker says he knows how to attract jobs.
Walker is spending $3 billion for only 3,000 jobs.
Talk about a race to the bottom.
- Lucky Pierre - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:34 pm:
Scott Walker is “spending 3 billion dollars” for Foxconn for 3,000 jobs?
Care to show your work and get back to us?
Stay off the fake news sites Chicago 20.
- Annonin' - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:35 pm:
Historic 17th —- guessin’ they will remember who was “for” saving the nuke plant beginnin’ to end. Hint not GovJunk
- Steve - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:36 pm:
This is one of the greatest political ads ever. Mocking Mike Madigan and union run Illinois. Rauner might not have a great record to run on but that ad is a 10 of 10. It’s got everyone talking and it’s unforgettable . It’s not an ad anyone is going to forget.
- Grandson of Man - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:39 pm:
Paging DPI for a unified response……Is there anybody out there?……Is there anybody out there?
Wisconsin and Indiana have posted job losses in four of seven months, March-September 2017. Missouri lost 10,500 in September 2017, and lost jobs in three of seven months, in the period of March-September 2017. The governors are in no position to criticize other states.
The RtW that Greitens signed into law is being challenged via ballot measure, so that might be on the way out.
Good for Madigan to speak out against the ad, but Illinois Democrats have to get involved in attacking it and Rauner. After all, the purpose of union-busting, Rauner’s primary goal, is to cripple the political opposition. That’s you, DPI.
- JohnDeereMade - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:41 pm:
John Deere, Caterpillar, Maytag, Alcoa, Rock Island Arsenal. Whatcha got in your districts? Wheres the history on your block?
Blue dog dems ran this place, not no more. Same old same old aint no jive no more.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:43 pm:
===John Deere, Caterpillar, Maytag, Alcoa, Rock Island Arsenal. Whatcha got in your districts? Wheres the history on your block?
Blue dog dems ran this place, not no more. Same old same old aint no jive no more.===
Any Union or Union member thinking Rauner is the right choice this time either pays no attention or is too ignorant at this point to help them.
But, you go with it.
- blue dog dem - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:48 pm:
Did someone say blue dog?
- Retired Educator - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:48 pm:
Steve I forgot it already. People without skin in the game telling Illinoisans what our problems are does not make me want to take their advise. It is interesting they even know who Madigan is. I give it a 3 at best. Just talking heads doing more talking.
- JohnDeereMade - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:49 pm:
Will do Mr. Willy. Never forget my vote counts just as much as yours no matter how ignorant you think I am.
Lots of love to you.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 12:55 pm:
===Never forget my vote counts just as much as yours…====
That’s what’s great about America. I never said your vote didn’t count, but if it makes you feel better that you imagined I did…
… must’ve been when you voted for Mike Madigan in the “historic 17th”…
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:10 pm:
===The ad was popular down here at the local union hall===
I did 8 (eight) IP address searches and they all came back Chicago and/or Cook County.
- Rich Miller - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:13 pm:
OK, I see who JohnDeereMade is now. It’s DownstateKid, the guy (who apparently lives in the city) I banned for attempting to impersonate OW. Bye.
- Lester Holt’s Mustache - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:15 pm:
I can’t understand why Dems are so worked up about this ad. If this ad, or another like it, is enough to get Illinois conservatives and Trump supporters to vote for Rauner next fall after lying to their faces and approving taxpayer funded abortions as well as turning Illinois into a sanctuary state for criminal illegal aliens, that will finally show what is really in their hearts. Liberals have always accused them of being hypocrites who care more about their team winning than they do about the safety of their country or their beloved “conservative values” that they’re always talking about. Next years election will finally show if they’ve been telling the truth this whole time and will refuse to vote for RINO Rauner, or if they really are the lying liars we suspect them of being. I for one look forward to learning whether people like Jeanne Ives, Peter Breen, Paul Caprio and their ilk have any honest bones in their bodies.
- A Parent - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:19 pm:
Woah, woah, woah…Scott Ross and John Zody must not subscribe to IPI. Our citizens have fled Illinois to live in the lap of luxury in Indiana and Wisconsin.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:31 pm:
Thanks Rich for clarifying what was going on behind it all.
I appreciate it.
- Loop Lady - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:34 pm:
This ad reminds me of being bullied on the playground by some simpleton when I was in grade school…
Beneath the dignity of an elected sitting governor…the just goes lower each day…
- Grandpa - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:35 pm:
The real issue here is greed, pure and simple. Average Americans want a few simple things in life, pride in what they do, so they can have a nice home, send their kids to college and take a vacation once in a while. That’s not asking a lot. They want a decent wage. No politician in DC deserves to make a half a million in donations from lobbyists. Governors should not advocate ways for corporations to pay people less, and to pay no taxes, America grew when Corps paid higher taxes, while investing in this country, not paying pennies to an Asian child to do an adult American’s job. Lets just be fair, lets bring jobs home, no CEO needs o make $30-70 Millions per year, Corporations should start to care about their employees. I know this sounds idyllic but what’s wrong with that? It is how America grew.
- Chicago 20 - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:37 pm:
Politifact Wisconsin isn’t fake news Lucky.
http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/aug/16/jennifer-shilling/wisconsin-paying-foxconn-1-million-job-possible-if/
- VanillaMan - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:45 pm:
==implying his party’s policies aren’t responsible for growing good-paying jobs in Indiana, and he’s right about that,” Zody said.==
There ya go.
Yes. I don’t want my governor claiming that we’re just passive losers catching the lucky crumbs fall off of another state’s tables.
That’s what those three party guests of Rauner’s implied. Not good. Then - these guys didn’t thank Rauner for giving them more money than most citizens don’t earn working two full time jobs.
These guys ought to be criticized. They insulted their state. Indiana, Wisconsin and Indiana shouldn’t be portrayed as leeches. The governors should be criticized. Shame on them for being bought and paid Rauner re-election assistants.
There are hundreds of people working hard to present thdir states as great places to do business in. They deserve credit for their work and dedication. It’s not about another state’s speaker of the house.
Yeah-these governors got played and used by the worse governor in the history of Illinois.
- Rabid - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:51 pm:
can’t find three former GOP govenors from the land of Lincoln to praise Rauner
- Arsenal - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:52 pm:
==I can’t understand why Dems are so worked up about this ad.==
Well, it’s pretty good trolling. That’s a bit distinct from effective advertising, but it’s good for “Triggering SJWs”.
- Ahoy! - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:56 pm:
Politics on both sides. Democrats complain when Republicans appear in ads and Republicans complain about Democrats appearing in ads, meanwhile they both are just awful.
- A guy - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 1:57 pm:
It’s an effective ad and there’s nothing unpredictable about who’s criticizing it. It’s an exercise to go through without any regard to any effect their criticism has.
Just grab 3 Democratic Governors to refute it.
- Chicago_Downstater - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 2:10 pm:
Glad these guys are getting at the very least trolled for going on this ad. It annoyed the heck out of me to see these guys talking about my state.
Personally I think it’s like family. I can talk nonsense about my cousins, but if you aren’t family you best be quiet and look to your own.
- Grandson of Man - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 3:59 pm:
Will Bruce run on attacking unions this time during the General, or will he say it’s not a priority, like he did last time? C’mon Bruce, run on it. C’mon Rauner supporters, push him to do it. Be loud and proud.
- Enviro - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 5:36 pm:
Regardless of what the other governors say about Illinois, we are much better than Wisconsin, Indiana, and Missouri.
- Annonin' - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 5:55 pm:
IL GOP governors think GovJunk is a mess and say so from time to time. Maybe GovJunk should give them $100K to change their tune. Meanwhile they get these bumpkins to review GovJunk failures
Smart thinkin’
- Grandson of Man - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 7:20 pm:
Illinois is a great state. It has massive problems, but so many great people and things. If it wasn’t great, Bruce Rauner, Ken Griffin and other supporters and funders wouldn’t have lived and built their businesses here.
Let us not be fooled. If Illinois was so bad, Rauner and Griffin would have moved to Wisconsin and Indiana a long time ago.
- Lucky Pierre - Wednesday, Oct 25, 17 @ 9:13 pm:
Left leaning Politifact earns the scorn they receive for pretending to be a neutral arbiter. They make this ridiculous claim each job will cost, as Austin Powers said: 1 million dollars, and then writes this absurdity:
Our rating
Gronik says Wisconsin is “guaranteeing Foxconn almost $3 billion, but Foxconn is not contractually guaranteeing how many full-time employees it will hire, for how long and at what pay.”
Wisconsin is guaranteeing to pay Foxconn up to $2.85 billion — but the full amount would be paid only if the company invests at least $9 billion in its plant and, in rough numbers, employs at least 13,000 people earning at least $30,000 per year.
The payments would be less, if Foxconn doesn’t meet those targets.
It’s true that Foxconn is not guaranteeing how many people it will hire, for how long and at what pay. That means it’s theoretically possible the company could earn up to $1.35 billion in investment incentives but not employ anyone, if it built the facility but never operated it. But the other $1.5 billion would be paid, on a graduated basis, only as people are employed at the plant.
For a statement that is partially accurate, our rating is Half True.
They say in their own words FOXCONN would only get the full 3 billion if they employ 13,000 people and then backtrack and rate the claim half true (also know as half false) if they only employed 3,000.
- Rabid - Thursday, Oct 26, 17 @ 8:10 am:
neighboring govenors think illinois is worth fighting for