Republican Gov. Bruce Rauner and primary challenger state Rep. Jeanne Ives will appear before the Chicago Tribune Editorial Board at 11 a.m. Monday for an endorsement session that will be streamed online here.
It’s the first time since Ives announced her campaign that voters will have a chance to see the two candidates together. And it might be the last.
No televised debates between the two are scheduled, and Rauner has been careful not to talk about Ives much, once suggesting she is a “fringe” candidate.
* Meanwhile, the Ives campaign sent this out yesterday…
Yesterday, State Representative Jeanne Ives, a conservative reform Republican for Governor, made several campaign stops in Southern Illinois. Ives spoke to voters and press at Meet & Greets in Newton and Litchfield, Illinois. Later, she delivered the keynote address at the Jersey County Lincoln Day Dinner, during which she defined the choice Republican voters have in the 2018 election. Ives told the audience, “Bruce Rauner doesn’t understand you. He doesn’t respect you. And that is why it was so easy for him to betray you.”
Look, we all know Southern Illinois starts approximately one half hour south (by car) of where ever you live, so as a resident of Sangamon County, the math checks out.
I am no fan of Rauner but Ives is even worse. It is kind of funny that Ives is trying to push / advocate for farther right wing policies when this state is Democratic. They are both fringe candidates.
I’m wondering which member of the Edit board will coddle Rauner while Ives takes broadsides.
What’s the odds that Mother Trib actually asks Rauner why he is unwilling to have a debate in the primary? Will he call Ives a fringe candidate to her face while they debate in front of the Editorial board of one of the largest newspapers in the country?
–Rauner will be challenged by the Tribune like he so rarely has before.–
I’m curious to see if that happens. His buddy, Ferro, is still the boss.
I wonder if they’ve been commiserating about those bad ol’ unions after the LA Times overwhelming vote to unionize. Has that given the Tribbie proles any ideas?
Back in the day, the virulent anti-unionism of the LA Times Chandler family made Col. McCormick seem like Mother Jones.
The reason Governor Rauner “suggested” Jeanne Ives was a fringe candidate is because 67% of Illinois Republicans have never heard of her and he is leading her in the polls by 40 points.
Should be an entertaining debate virtually no one will see at 11 AM on a Monday morning.
Rauner will have apologists like @StatehouseChick whip up hurricanes of deflection, and walk Ives into easy extremist traps.
“I wanted to give Rep. Ives every opportunity to say all she wanted to say”, @StatehouseChip will say, as she helps Rauner, while being “so upset” with Rauner’s choices “recently”.
It will depend on what sound bites get out, how they’re used, and how often those questioning save Rauner from himself, and rehabilitate Rauner with…
I think the writers and reporters doing the most commiserating work for the Washington Post owned by the richest man in America- Jeff Bezos and a self proclaimed liberal Democrat. The paper is doing much better, but the workers are getting crumbs.
Rauner has already bought and paid for the Chicago Tribune endorsement for Governor. His only accomplishments in politics so far is writing fat checks to receive endorsements.
am no fan of Rauner but Ives is even worse. It is kind of funny that Ives is trying to push / advocate for farther right wing policies when this state is Democratic. They are both fringe candidates.
-oh please Rauner is worse by far. At least Ives doesn’t lie multiple times on how she stands on issues as Rauner does..
“Bruce Rauner doesn’t understand you. He doesn’t respect you. And that is why it was so easy for him to betray you.”
While I’m still concerned that Ives’ extremism will make Rauner appear more moderate than his record, that concern is off-set by her devastating and non-ideological critique of his actions and character.
Regardless of Rauner’s politics, the man Ives oh-so-accurately describes is clearly unfit for the office.
The key, and the actual true genius (no snark) of Rauner in these events is that no real time fact checking for blatant, flat out, unquestioned “mischaracterizations” are so easily blown passed, why not say what Rauner says.
Past three years, you can count on one hand who has held Rauner at least accountable.
Geez, Ives is doing a fantastic job here. She’s really hammering the character stuff — and Rauner seems to — literally — have no answer (except, of course, his usual non-sequitors).
- Pot calling kettle - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:42 am:
==The key, and the actual true genius (no snark) of Rauner in these events is that no real time fact checking for blatant, flat out, unquestioned “mischaracterizations”==
If he’s smart he’ll never enter another room with her until March 21st. He’ll win the primary on inertia and name recognition but god is he awful at debate.
Remember this day when this same Trib Editorial Board endorses Rauner over Ives, and Ives taking chapter and verse to Rauner’s dishonesty, lack of accomplishments, and failing to have anything these past three years that can be seen, especially social agenda wise, that would be construed as a Republican incumbent running in the Republican Primary.
“The back porch deal where I netted $15 million and thrbtyeres a lawsuit on that business transaction to make money… its baloney… “ - Fake Bruce Rauner’s fake thinking…
… still no ad about it… when it was hot… not even a quick art :30 second ding.
State Representative Tim Butler delivered the keynote address at the Jersey County Lincoln Day Dinner. Representative Ives certainly spoke, but she was not the featured Guest Speaker.
Maybe Ives looked good because Rauner only repeated his 3 year old talking points?
Interested that she worked so hard to look like she can work across the aisles. In the end, from what I saw, Ives looked like she was under control and understood the issues.
I still think she is a nut, but here she came off strong against Rauner.
Sure. How about we start with all of Tillman and Dan Proft’s candidates? IOP and Liberty Principles PAC dumped a ton of cash on Rauner loyalists. If Rauner had ceded control of GOP legislative races to Dan Proft would there be an Ives’ candidacy? The running regardless of how well she does allows them all the facade of #MeToo outrage.
===How about we start with all of Tillman and Dan Proft’s candidates? IOP and Liberty Principles PAC dumped a ton of cash on Rauner loyalists. If Rauner had ceded control of GOP legislative races to Dan Proft would there be an Ives’ candidacy?===
Nope. Ives would be happily, I’m guessing, being Ives, but HB40, “as a white male”, and FoxNews and bad magazine covers allowed Proft to slither into a place to cripple and seize seats in the GA to spite the Rauner factions.
As I also have stated many times, Proft going after Rauner is far more about a business deal gone bad with Tillman running the governing, and the likes of Proft and Besler, supporters of Ken Dunkin, handling the politics.
Proft is taking an opportunity. The alleged politics, real as they are to some like conservatives and pro-life Republicans, is just the vessel for Proft.
== Proft is taking an opportunity. The alleged politics, real as they are to some like conservatives and pro-life Republicans, is just the vessel for Proft. ==
Just finished watching most of it while also reading this site, so didn’t catch all the nuances.
She was very well-prepared, had plenty of examples at hand, speaks well in a one-on-one forum, was in control of her discourse and emotions (okay, she did look a bit angry - but I suspect that’s just her, pretty much all the time; she’s serious about her beliefs and that can come across as “angry”).
I don’t agree with her social policy stances overall, but I still ended up admiring her for her tenacity and the obvious seriousness with which she approached this appearance.
OTOH, much (most? all?) of any legislation she wanted to push through the GA would be DOA. She herself more or less acknowledged this, and said there was much the gov could do by bypassing the legislature. Not sure about the wisdom of saying “If elected gov, I’ll ignore the GA, though.”
OTOH 2: While she got BVR on a technicality re: Janus v. AFSCME, BVR was right that it was on his watch that this case made it to SCOTUS.
It’ll be interesting to see how the Trib finesses this one.
What’s interesting, though, is Rauner lack of preparedness. Truly, he has nothing to say. Nothing. He has talking points which nearly always have nothing to do with the actual question — but absolutely cannot move away from those points.
Ives interupted him a lot — which clearly threw him for a loop — but I was stunned at how much he had to concentrate in order to get back to the talking points. The same talking points that failed on FOX, btw.
I’m pulling a GOP ballot and voting for Ives in the primary.
FWIW, I’m going to continue to abuse my friendship with Miller and call for this, in our bicentennial year, that John Prine’s name be carved into the wall of the Illinois State Library so we can appreciate the mailman from Maywood for eternity.
I could go on and on (and I will, believe me) as to why Prine should be immortalized among the great Illinois writers,if you grew up in the cornfields like me, you’d dig it.
But here’s a taste. You can find the rest on the google (this one, with b-a Steve Goodman bonus; like The Boss says, ain’t no sin being glad you’re alive).
- Give Me A Break - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:05 am:
Litchfield in southern Illinois? LOL
- wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:07 am:
==”He doesn’t respect you. And that is why it was so easy for him to betray you.”==
And lie to you. Like most people take a breath of air. That’s been evident since Day One.
- Norseman - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:13 am:
This session should be very entertaining. Rauner will be challenged by the Tribune like he so rarely has before.
- Arsenal - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:16 am:
==Litchfield in southern Illinois? LOL==
Look, we all know Southern Illinois starts approximately one half hour south (by car) of where ever you live, so as a resident of Sangamon County, the math checks out.
- Arsenal - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:17 am:
==Rauner will be challenged by the Tribune==
That doesn’t seem likely.
- Illinois Resident - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:20 am:
I am no fan of Rauner but Ives is even worse. It is kind of funny that Ives is trying to push / advocate for farther right wing policies when this state is Democratic. They are both fringe candidates.
- Dee Lay - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:20 am:
I’m wondering which member of the Edit board will coddle Rauner while Ives takes broadsides.
What’s the odds that Mother Trib actually asks Rauner why he is unwilling to have a debate in the primary? Will he call Ives a fringe candidate to her face while they debate in front of the Editorial board of one of the largest newspapers in the country?
This should be fun.
- wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:23 am:
–Rauner will be challenged by the Tribune like he so rarely has before.–
I’m curious to see if that happens. His buddy, Ferro, is still the boss.
I wonder if they’ve been commiserating about those bad ol’ unions after the LA Times overwhelming vote to unionize. Has that given the Tribbie proles any ideas?
Back in the day, the virulent anti-unionism of the LA Times Chandler family made Col. McCormick seem like Mother Jones.
- Lucky Pierre - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:25 am:
The reason Governor Rauner “suggested” Jeanne Ives was a fringe candidate is because 67% of Illinois Republicans have never heard of her and he is leading her in the polls by 40 points.
Should be an entertaining debate virtually no one will see at 11 AM on a Monday morning.
- OneMan - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:25 am:
So music for the meeting
https://youtu.be/Ml4wAnvfM4M?t=57s
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:29 am:
Rauner will have apologists like @StatehouseChick whip up hurricanes of deflection, and walk Ives into easy extremist traps.
“I wanted to give Rep. Ives every opportunity to say all she wanted to say”, @StatehouseChip will say, as she helps Rauner, while being “so upset” with Rauner’s choices “recently”.
It will depend on what sound bites get out, how they’re used, and how often those questioning save Rauner from himself, and rehabilitate Rauner with…
“… explain again, Governor… “
- Lucky Pierre - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:30 am:
I think the writers and reporters doing the most commiserating work for the Washington Post owned by the richest man in America- Jeff Bezos and a self proclaimed liberal Democrat. The paper is doing much better, but the workers are getting crumbs.
https://splinternews.com/wapo-staffers-fighting-for-better-wages-told-to-sit-dow-1822312648
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:30 am:
Adding,
In theory, Ives on policy, on conservative credentials and Rauner’s hypocrisy, she should beat him like a drum.
That Edit Board won’t let this get that far…
- DeseDemDose - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:33 am:
Rauner has already bought and paid for the Chicago Tribune endorsement for Governor. His only accomplishments in politics so far is writing fat checks to receive endorsements.
- cdog - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 10:04 am:
I’m not convinced Rauner will even show up for the festivities.
He’s a risk man and the risks are high.
- Real - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 10:19 am:
am no fan of Rauner but Ives is even worse. It is kind of funny that Ives is trying to push / advocate for farther right wing policies when this state is Democratic. They are both fringe candidates.
-oh please Rauner is worse by far. At least Ives doesn’t lie multiple times on how she stands on issues as Rauner does..
- wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:01 am:
–I’m not convinced Rauner will even show up for the festivities.–
Silly statements like that don’t help with your credibility.
- @misterjayem - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:01 am:
Bezos is a “a self proclaimed liberal Democrat”?
No.
In fact, his anti-union, pro-charter school politics aren’t all that far from those of your boy Bruce.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/08/the-politics-of-new-i-washington-post-i-owner-jeff-bezos/278385/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2013/08/07/the-politics-of-jeff-bezos/
– MrJM
- Anon - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:04 am:
Nothing on the train site yet.
- Arthur Andersen - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:09 am:
-hurricanes of deflection-
And people wonder why they get blocked lol.
Someone is running late at Tronc Tower.
- Anonymous - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:09 am:
Cancelled or delayed?
- @misterjayem - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:10 am:
“Bruce Rauner doesn’t understand you. He doesn’t respect you. And that is why it was so easy for him to betray you.”
While I’m still concerned that Ives’ extremism will make Rauner appear more moderate than his record, that concern is off-set by her devastating and non-ideological critique of his actions and character.
Regardless of Rauner’s politics, the man Ives oh-so-accurately describes is clearly unfit for the office.
Brutal.
– MrJM
- wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:10 am:
The twitter says Ives hasn’t shown yet.
- Dance Band on the Titanic - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:24 am:
Rauner needs some new lines.
- ryan - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:25 am:
BVR and MJM are golf buddies???
- Macbeth - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:26 am:
Ives is doing pretty well. Someone should tell Rauner to wipe the smarmy smile off his face.
- Anon221 - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:26 am:
If the video gets posted sometime, please let us know. Can’t access it on any of the links. Thanks.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:27 am:
===BVR and MJM are golf buddies…===
If trey are, and they need a “fourth”, please reach out…
- PJ - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:31 am:
Ives is a terrible legislator (awful), but she shines in this forum. She’s totally controlling the dialogue.
- PJ - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:33 am:
“Speaker Madigan would love Ives to win the primary”.
Actually 100% true on that one. Had nothing to do with the question he was asked, though.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:34 am:
The key, and the actual true genius (no snark) of Rauner in these events is that no real time fact checking for blatant, flat out, unquestioned “mischaracterizations” are so easily blown passed, why not say what Rauner says.
Past three years, you can count on one hand who has held Rauner at least accountable.
This Edit Board won’t, they haven’t.
- Anonymous - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:34 am:
https://www.facebook.com/chicagotribune/videos/10156113927233256/?notif_id=1517245588250381¬if_t=live_video
- wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:37 am:
I’m guessing Rauner’s vocabulary is no more than a couple of hundred words.
- Arsenal - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:37 am:
No one’s watching this or will hear anything else Ives has to say, but she’s absolutely killing him.
- Macbeth - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:40 am:
Geez, Ives is doing a fantastic job here. She’s really hammering the character stuff — and Rauner seems to — literally — have no answer (except, of course, his usual non-sequitors).
Ives is nailing it.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:41 am:
Rauner or Cardinal Cupich…
Who am I going to believe.
Rauner told the Blase Cardinal Cupich one thing and did a whole thing different than what he said.
That’s outrageous to be called on that?
It can’t be outrageous what Rauner did. That’s exactly what Rauner did.
- Wow - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:41 am:
Ives took Rauner out to the woodshed on HB40
- A guy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:42 am:
Sorry, 11/34 was me. FB link to trib session.
- Pot calling kettle - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:42 am:
==The key, and the actual true genius (no snark) of Rauner in these events is that no real time fact checking for blatant, flat out, unquestioned “mischaracterizations”==
Ives is doing that fairly well.
- Anon221 - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:44 am:
From the posts here and the Scribby, sounds like Rauner is getting a thorough lesson in what a woman scorned can unleash.
- PJ - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:44 am:
If he’s smart he’ll never enter another room with her until March 21st. He’ll win the primary on inertia and name recognition but god is he awful at debate.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:46 am:
As the great Joliet philosopher Elwood Blues told his brother Jake about the clergy and misleading them…
“You can’t lie to a nun”
That was a nun, not a Cardinal and Jake wasn’t the governor of Illinois while doing it.
Ives is doing well, but, will it mean votes or a propelling her to greater exposure?
- Anonymous - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:47 am:
This is getting close to a TKO. She is prepared. He really isn’t.
- wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:49 am:
No one on that tronc panel calls b-s on Rauner’s balanced budget claims? Pathetic.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:56 am:
Remember this day when this same Trib Editorial Board endorses Rauner over Ives, and Ives taking chapter and verse to Rauner’s dishonesty, lack of accomplishments, and failing to have anything these past three years that can be seen, especially social agenda wise, that would be construed as a Republican incumbent running in the Republican Primary.
- Anonymous - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 11:58 am:
That may happen Willy. But I’m not sure. This is really quite a thing.
- Anonymous - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:01 pm:
The feed just died.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:03 pm:
===The feed just died.===
“Do something… he’s drowning… “
“27% true”… 100% false, but how great if that was the case, lol
- Pot calling kettle - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:03 pm:
==The feed just died. ==
I think one of Rauner’s people must have “tripped” over the cord.
- Pot calling kettle - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:04 pm:
It’s back up…
- Arthur Andersen - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:06 pm:
Feed’s back.
Ives beat Rauner like a rented mule. Even with Katrina asking 90 percent of the questions.
- Logan - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:06 pm:
As soon as I loaded up the new stream, I thought I was watching an ad for Erika Harold.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:15 pm:
“The back porch deal where I netted $15 million and thrbtyeres a lawsuit on that business transaction to make money… its baloney… “ - Fake Bruce Rauner’s fake thinking…
… still no ad about it… when it was hot… not even a quick art :30 second ding.
- cdog - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:18 pm:
Rauner is once again proving his delusional SOP, comment after comment.
- JS Mill - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:32 pm:
I wonder if that elderly lady that grabbed his arm is from Sweden?
- 47th Ward - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:41 pm:
===elderly lady that grabbed his arm is from Sweden?===
Or maybe she’s from Alderaan. “Help me Obi-Raun, you’re our only hope.”
- Yow - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:42 pm:
Jeanne always looks angry. That doesn’t connect with middle voters.
- Real - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:43 pm:
Ives crushed Rauner in that debate. She showed voters how phony Rauner is.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:46 pm:
===That doesn’t connect with middle voters.===
She’s not looking for “middle voters”, Ives wants conservatives that Rauner turned his back on to turn their back on him and vote Ives in the Primary.
===Jeanne always looks angry.===
Conservatives, pro-life Republicans are angry at Rauner, it’s not a schtick, it’s how they feel, they want her fighting angry too.
- Anonin - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:50 pm:
== Conservatives, pro-life Republicans are angry at Rauner, it’s not a schtick, it’s how they feel, they want her fighting angry too. =
Yes, conservatives are angry at Rauner but the people who helped elect Rauner (for money) are covering their behinds.
- Fred Floreth - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:56 pm:
State Representative Tim Butler delivered the keynote address at the Jersey County Lincoln Day Dinner. Representative Ives certainly spoke, but she was not the featured Guest Speaker.
- JS Mill - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:57 pm:
Maybe Ives looked good because Rauner only repeated his 3 year old talking points?
Interested that she worked so hard to look like she can work across the aisles. In the end, from what I saw, Ives looked like she was under control and understood the issues.
I still think she is a nut, but here she came off strong against Rauner.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 12:57 pm:
===…but the people who helped elect Rauner (for money) are covering their behinds.===
Ok. Would you like to amplify that?
- Anonin - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 1:03 pm:
= Ok. Would you like to amplify that? =
Sure. How about we start with all of Tillman and Dan Proft’s candidates? IOP and Liberty Principles PAC dumped a ton of cash on Rauner loyalists. If Rauner had ceded control of GOP legislative races to Dan Proft would there be an Ives’ candidacy? The running regardless of how well she does allows them all the facade of #MeToo outrage.
- Arsenal - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 1:05 pm:
==That doesn’t connect with middle voters.==
Who’s President again?
- 47th Ward - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 1:08 pm:
Why is Kass in the room? Are they serving lunch?
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 1:12 pm:
===How about we start with all of Tillman and Dan Proft’s candidates? IOP and Liberty Principles PAC dumped a ton of cash on Rauner loyalists. If Rauner had ceded control of GOP legislative races to Dan Proft would there be an Ives’ candidacy?===
Nope. Ives would be happily, I’m guessing, being Ives, but HB40, “as a white male”, and FoxNews and bad magazine covers allowed Proft to slither into a place to cripple and seize seats in the GA to spite the Rauner factions.
As I also have stated many times, Proft going after Rauner is far more about a business deal gone bad with Tillman running the governing, and the likes of Proft and Besler, supporters of Ken Dunkin, handling the politics.
Proft is taking an opportunity. The alleged politics, real as they are to some like conservatives and pro-life Republicans, is just the vessel for Proft.
With respect, thank you for your response.
- Anonin - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 1:15 pm:
== Proft is taking an opportunity. The alleged politics, real as they are to some like conservatives and pro-life Republicans, is just the vessel for Proft. ==
I agree.
- dbk - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 1:29 pm:
Just finished watching most of it while also reading this site, so didn’t catch all the nuances.
She was very well-prepared, had plenty of examples at hand, speaks well in a one-on-one forum, was in control of her discourse and emotions (okay, she did look a bit angry - but I suspect that’s just her, pretty much all the time; she’s serious about her beliefs and that can come across as “angry”).
I don’t agree with her social policy stances overall, but I still ended up admiring her for her tenacity and the obvious seriousness with which she approached this appearance.
OTOH, much (most? all?) of any legislation she wanted to push through the GA would be DOA. She herself more or less acknowledged this, and said there was much the gov could do by bypassing the legislature. Not sure about the wisdom of saying “If elected gov, I’ll ignore the GA, though.”
OTOH 2: While she got BVR on a technicality re: Janus v. AFSCME, BVR was right that it was on his watch that this case made it to SCOTUS.
It’ll be interesting to see how the Trib finesses this one.
- James Knell - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 1:48 pm:
Will the big walking talking pile of money arrive in an armored truck?
- Anonymous - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:02 pm:
Re: ‘Ives always looks angry”….she has five kids. I look like that and I only have 2.
- DuPage - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:11 pm:
Ives-1 Rauner-0
- Macbeth - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 2:55 pm:
Ives won this — hands down. Absolutely no doubt.
What’s interesting, though, is Rauner lack of preparedness. Truly, he has nothing to say. Nothing. He has talking points which nearly always have nothing to do with the actual question — but absolutely cannot move away from those points.
Ives interupted him a lot — which clearly threw him for a loop — but I was stunned at how much he had to concentrate in order to get back to the talking points. The same talking points that failed on FOX, btw.
I’m pulling a GOP ballot and voting for Ives in the primary.
- VanillaMan - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 3:04 pm:
Saw the whole yhing.
1. Ives clearly won.
2. I can’t believe how, after 3 years, Rauner still seems over his head as governor. Sad.
- wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 3:04 pm:
–Why is Kass in the room? Are they serving lunch?–
Katrina rang that bell, and he thought that meant cheese fries. Pavlovian response.
- DuPage Bard - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 4:45 pm:
If Jeanne had money Rauner would be in some serious trouble. And she needs more than $500k from Uihlein.
- blue dog dem - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 7:17 pm:
My question. What does an Ivy League education cost. It appears to be a waste of money.
- wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:23 pm:
FWIW, I’m going to continue to abuse my friendship with Miller and call for this, in our bicentennial year, that John Prine’s name be carved into the wall of the Illinois State Library so we can appreciate the mailman from Maywood for eternity.
I could go on and on (and I will, believe me) as to why Prine should be immortalized among the great Illinois writers,if you grew up in the cornfields like me, you’d dig it.
But here’s a taste. You can find the rest on the google (this one, with b-a Steve Goodman bonus; like The Boss says, ain’t no sin being glad you’re alive).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOTbg39-I5Q
- wordslinger - Monday, Jan 29, 18 @ 9:47 pm:
Farm Aid, Champaign, 1986.
Willie, Waylon, Neil and Big Jim’s Woodstock.
Ain’t no sin being from Illinois. Greatest show, ever,
I was there, and it was a stone-cold groove. The next day, I moved into the old Cordoba Apts. at 5th and South Grande, AKA the Roach Hotel.
Love Springfield, and the Dome. I’m thinking any bar tabs and beefs have been forgiven by now.
But FarmAid was the goods.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfF5W2-cjZg