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*** UPDATED x2 *** Veto override showdown postponed until April

Wednesday, Mar 14, 2018 - Posted by Rich Miller

* After a governor vetoes a bill and returns it to the originating chamber, the Illinois Constitution requires that chamber to immediately journalize the veto and then take a vote within 15 calendar days.

But the Senate didn’t journalize Rauner’s Tuesday veto of the gun dealer licensing bill yesterday or today. A Senate Democratic spokesperson told me that Rauner didn’t officially return the bill until after the Senate had adjourned, even though the veto message is dated yesterday.

The Senate canceled tomorrow’s session and won’t return until April 10th, so proponents have some time to figure out what to do (and spring break won’t be interrupted).

*** UPDATE 1 *** The governor’s office disagrees…

Rich,

We filed it the same way we filed the vetoes for their out of balance budget and permanent 33% tax increase last summer. Those vetoes were both on the Senate floor within hours of being filed.

Rachel Bold
Press Secretary
Office of Governor Bruce Rauner

Uh-oh. I’m not sure what happens now. I guess the governor could take the Senate to court, which happened with Rod Blagojevich (in his case, it was the House).

*** UPDATE 2 *** Hmm…



The governor’s office claims, however, that the bill was sent to the Senate.

[ *** End Of Updates *** ]

* Anyway, from the Senate Democrats…

Senate Democrats took the lead in advancing comprehensive gun safety legislation Wednesday. Illinois Senate President John J. Cullerton issued the following statement.

    “This was an important step forward. Yes, there’s more to do. But today we saw lawmakers come together and support commonsense gun laws. It is my hope that this unity can continue and our efforts will make a difference.”

On Wednesday, the Illinois Senate approved three gun safety proposals, all of which Senate President Cullerton supported.

Here’s a summary of those proposals and their status:

House Bill 1465 - Prohibits the sale or transfer of an assault weapon, .50 caliber rifle or large capacity magazine to an individual under the age of 21.

    Status: Senate approved 33-22. Returns to Illinois House for final action on changes.

House Bill 1467 - Ban on bump stocks and trigger cranks. Also restores local governments’ ability to enact local regulations and restrictions regarding assault weapons.

    Status: Senate approved 37-16. Returns to Illinois House for final action on changes.

House Bill 1468 - Increases the waiting period to receive an assault weapon after purchase to 72 hours from 24 hours. (Note: This mirrors the existing waiting period for handguns)

    Status: Senate approved 43-15, clears the way for it to go to the governor.

* Meanwhile, from the Ives campaign…

Conservative reform gubernatorial candidate Jeanne Ives issued the following statement today on the Chicago Public Schools walkout and the complaint filed by the Chicago Republican Party with the CPS Inspector General:

“Public resources shouldn’t be used for politics. The Chicago Public Schools are behaving like Illinois’ Political Ruling Class by using the taxpayer’s money improperly–and don’t forget Gov. Rauner just committed the entire state to a massive $17 billion bailout of CPS. I’m all for civic education. I’m all for youth participation. I’m not for children being used as tools of political propaganda by Rahm Emanuel, the Chicago Teachers’ Union and Chicago Democrat politicians.

“The Chicago Republican Party and its Chairman, who is the parent of a CPS student, are right to lodge a complaint with the CPS Inspector General. Chicago Democrat politicians like Rahm are wrong to exploit children in advance of their political ends.”

* Related…

* Rauner primary rival Ives supports arming teachers with guns to ‘harden’ schools

       

25 Comments
  1. - Perrid - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 3:10 pm:

    What public resources were used in CPS? Were the kids assembling on school grounds or something for the walkout?


  2. - Claud Peppers - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 3:12 pm:

    If the teachers had guns they could control this type of civil disobedience.


  3. - 47th Ward - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 3:12 pm:

    ===Gov. Rauner just committed the entire state to a massive $17 billion bailout of CPS.===

    Awesome news. Can’t believe I missed this.


  4. - Norseman - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 3:15 pm:

    Ives and the GOP are totally missing the message. Good, these kids are the future and I don’t see the GOP as being a part of it.


  5. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 3:19 pm:

    BTIA


  6. - illini - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 3:24 pm:

    === Public resources shouldn’t be used for politics. ===

    Could she be talking about the 17 minutes this morning that students walked out of their schools to humiliate their elders ( legislators ) for not addressing a pressing issue?


  7. - LL KOOL AID - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 3:31 pm:

    Senate is playing games. This never stopped them in the past. If the conventional business practices that were agreed upon by the senate, this bill should be dead.


  8. - Perrid - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 3:32 pm:

    Brian Mackey has Sen. Harmon saying it should have been filed with the Senate and not the Secretary of State, implying that is the reason for the delay. I don’t know if the budget was file with the SoS while the Senate was still in session though, so the Guv might not be disagreeing with the Senator. Seems to be some finger pointing going around.


  9. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 3:33 pm:

    ===Rich,

    We filed it the same way we filed the vetoes for their out of balance budget and permanent 33% tax increase last summer. Those vetoes were both on the Senate floor within hours of being filed.

    Rachel Bold
    Press Secretary
    Office of Governor Bruce Rauner===

    Ms. Bold,

    The governor shouldn’t use the revenue generated to balance his submitted, phony, sham budget.

    I’m sure you will show where the extra revenue isn’t needed, while also asking for the billion your office spent without appropriations.

    Your pal,

    Oswego Willy

    Oh…

    If his veto is “all that”…

    Then Rauner wants higher education eliminated, social services removed, and every state agency to be non-existent, since your office vetoed the entire budget too, hurting seniors, colleges, students… and the bipartisan legislature saved Illinois from this governor.

    /end rant


  10. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 3:33 pm:

    Does Ives think equal time should be provided for those who favor school shootings?


  11. - JS Mill - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 3:37 pm:

    =Ives supports arming teachers with guns to ‘harden’ schools=

    Schools are not bunkers and shouldn’t be. Arming a teacher doesn’t “harden” a school.


  12. - Norseman - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 3:55 pm:

    Fun but effectively meaningless fight on procedures. The bill will not be overridden so there will be no standing to challenge the action in court.


  13. - Honeybadger - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 4:09 pm:

    Maybe the first place teachers should be armed is at the schools in Ives district. Wonder how the teachers, parents, students and the people running to replace her feel.


  14. - Honeybadger - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 4:10 pm:

    Jeanne Ives, Illinois’ answer to Minnesota’s Michelle Bachman.


  15. - Natty_B - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 4:14 pm:

    Only 6 more days and then I’ll hopefully never have to hear from Ives again. Enjoy her Wheaton!


  16. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 4:15 pm:

    =Ives supports arming teachers with guns to ‘harden’ schools=

    What could go wrong?

    –A California teacher who also serves as a reserve police officer accidentally fired a pistol inside his classroom while teaching about gun safety and injured three students, according to reports.–

    “Accidentally” isn’t really the right word. The teacher told students he was checking to make sure the gun wasn’t loaded when he fired it in the air…. and it was loaded.

    https://nypost.com/2018/03/14/teacher-accidentally-fires-gun-in-class-while-teaching-about-gun-safety/


  17. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 4:36 pm:

    There will be no gun bills signed into law this year.

    The Dems will try and hang the gun dealer licensing bill around Rauner’s head in the suburbs. They will play ping pong with the other gun bills and not send them to the Governor’s desk so he cannot sign anything. Deny him any type of victory.


  18. - Anonymous - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 4:43 pm:

    😙@47th 3:12pm

    Try to keep up.

    /snark


  19. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 4:46 pm:

    –Gov. Rauner just committed the entire state to a massive $17 billion bailout of CPS.–

    Where does that number come from, even in fantasy land?


  20. - Leigh John-Ella - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 5:00 pm:

    Pretty sure the Senate, the house where the bill originated, was in session when the Gov announced his veto.

    Illinois Constitution
    ARTICLE IV
    THE LEGISLATURE
    SECTION 9. VETO PROCEDURE

    (b) If the Governor does not approve the bill, he shall veto it by returning it with his objections to the house in which it originated. …
    If recess or adjournment of the General Assembly
    prevents the return of a bill, the bill and the Governor’s objections shall be filed with the Secretary of State within such 60 calendar days.


  21. - Da Big Bad Wolf - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 5:40 pm:

    The fact that the CEO of Chicago Public schools decided not to discipline students who participated in the walk out is enough to cause a complaint with the CPS inspector general? Oh come on. What about senior ditch day, did the Chicago Republican Party file a complaint about that too?


  22. - Logan - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 6:06 pm:

    “The fact that the CEO of Chicago Public schools decided not to discipline students who participated in the walk out is enough to cause a complaint with the CPS inspector general? Oh come on. What about senior ditch day, did the Chicago Republican Party file a complaint about that too?”

    The difference between any sort of senior ditch day and the walkout from today, is that the students organize the ditch day. If CPS administrators are organizing the walkout, there is a problem with that.


  23. - wordslinger - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 6:08 pm:

    –The difference between any sort of senior ditch day and the walkout from today, is that the students organize the ditch day. If CPS administrators are organizing the walkout, there is a problem with that.–

    What are you talking about? It’s going on all over the country today.


  24. - Logan - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 6:40 pm:

    @wordslinger

    I’m completely aware of that. Maybe I should have phrased my original comment better. What I meant by “organizing” the walkout is that if a student was forced or pressured into participating, then there’s a problem (which is not the case at my nephew’s school).


  25. - Da Big Bad Wolf - Wednesday, Mar 14, 18 @ 9:52 pm:

    So far there’s no evidence that administrators organized the walkout. There IS evidence that they aren’t going to make kids go to detention or some other discipline. And Ives want to talk about public resources. How many staff members would CPS have to pay overtime for all those kids in detention?


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