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Ives’ latest demand: A million-dollar apology ad
Thursday, Mar 22, 2018 - Posted by Rich Miller * Daily Herald…
Yeah, Rauner blatantly lied about her supposed love of Speaker Madigan. But practically everybody in the media took Ives’ side on that one, including me, and she still lost. She didn’t have the money to counter him. If not for those late and well-produced DGA ads, she may never have gotten so close. * But Ives’ own ads weren’t exactly truthful, either. Remember this from her first TV ad?…
Not only were those claims false, they were so repulsive that the ad prevented a whole lot of people from contributing to her campaign and voting for her. That ad was the beginning of her end. Politics ain’t beanbag. There are no rules and no hands were clean here. You play how you play and you live by the consequences. Ives lost. It’s bad enough that Rauner constantly plays the entitled victim card without Rep. Ives doing the same thing. Victory is not a right, it’s earned.
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- Blue dog dem - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:44 am:
The ad was the beginning of the end?
- Mike Cirrincione - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:46 am:
“Cuckoo”
- Richard M Daley
- Huh? - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:47 am:
Dear Ms. Ives thank you for your comment. I won, you lost. Now go down the hall to find someone who might care about your problem. Sincerely, 1.4%
- VanillaMan - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:49 am:
This is what happens when an incumbent “wins” as badly as Rauner did.
His primary opponent thinks he hasn’t a chance and thinks she’ll be politically damaged by campaigning with him.
Rauner is roadkill. ILGOP incumbents are praying he doesn’t expect them to ride on his funeral train until November.
Rauner is too toxic within his own party.
- BlackHawk Boone - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:51 am:
Maybe Liberty Principles PAC will pay for it
- Anon - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:52 am:
Did she put her pinky to the corner of her mouth when she said “a million dollars” ala Austin Powers?
- a drop in - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:53 am:
What is she looking for? A note with a million dollar check attached?
- LadyBee - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:53 am:
It will take way more than $215 for me to vote for Rauner in the general. Ives is too kind. She has every right to feel the way she does. This whole incident just (once again) shows who Bruce Rauner really is as a person. I have voted R for decades - I will NOT vote R in the 2018 IL Gov. race.
- A Jack - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:53 am:
I think she started campaigning really late in the game and did a remarkably good job of catching up. Had she started last spring she might have been able to pull it off. Granted, she didn’t have a reason to start any earlier since Rauner had promised to veto HB40.
- Montrose - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:53 am:
The important thing is she makes it about her, like all good public servants do.
- 47th Ward - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:54 am:
===The ad was the beginning of the end?===
That has to be tough to swallow, eh dog? I mean, you loved that ad so much, and so did all of your pals. That ad is why you were proud to support her, how could that have been the reason her campaign unraveled?
Those few of you who fully embraced Jeanne Ives and her disgusting, divisive campaign, are an old and dwindling lot. A majority of Republicans, thankfully, rejected her. That has to hurt you a little bit, at least I hope so.
Cheers!
- Hamlet's Ghost - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:55 am:
Why is Bruce Rauner entitled to her endorsement?
- @misterjayem - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:55 am:
Jeanne Ives’ first television ad did more to damage her reputation than any ad from Bruce Rauner could ever do.
It was, and she is, disgraceful.
– MrJM
- JoanP - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:56 am:
==I’ll vote for him, but I will not endorse him,==
Didn’t Rauner say the same thing about Trump?
- Rich Miller - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:56 am:
===Why is Bruce Rauner entitled to her endorsement? ===
He’s not, except doesn’t West Point teach you how to lose gracefully in non-combat arenas? Even then, Robert E. Lee graciously surrendered.
Either way, she’s definitely not entitled to a million-dollar ad. Ridic.
- Signal and Noise - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:57 am:
A million dollar apology? Talk about snowflakes.
- Team America - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:57 am:
Ives also tried to hang the Madigan tax hike around Rauner’s neck, which is worthy of a ‘pants on fire’ rating if anything is.
- Hamlet's Ghost - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:59 am:
She’s definitely not entitled to a million-dollar ad . . .
Agree 100% however I also read her comment as sarcasm and hyperbole and not as a serious demand.
- Arsenal - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:59 am:
Had she not run “that ad” she would have gotten a bunch of newspaper endorsements, maybe including Tronc’s. She could’ve sold that to donors and kept her organization running through election day.
- John Bambenek - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 10:59 am:
Ives should start by asking for an apology and a refund for Dan Proft losing yet another high-profile race. No central Illinois presence, a 50-page novella mailpiece?
Once again, the Grifter from Cicero sucks money out of a race to lose, leaves the candidates in the dustbin of history, and goes on to vampirically drain the next campaign.
- TominChicago - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:00 am:
Here comes, Jeanne Snowflake….
- PJ - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:01 am:
===Robert E. Lee graciously surrendered.===
Now there’s someone Jeannie can respect
- 19th ward guy - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:04 am:
So much fun watching the Proft/Tillman/Ives tailspin. Liberty Principles PAC toast too. Cap Fax analysis from yesterday flying around major donor community and Profts radio show at bottom of rankings.
- Lucky Pierre - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:06 am:
The definition of a Political endorsement- the action of publicly declaring one’s personal or group’s support of a candidate for election to political office or for one or more of their policies
Jeannie Ives says I am a Republican, I will vote for him but not endorse him
What is the difference?
- JS Mill - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:11 am:
=It’s bad enough that Rauner constantly plays the entitled victim card without Rep. Ives doing the same thing. Victory is not a right, it’s earned.=
Very well stated Rich!
Ives and Rauner have two huge things in common;
1) They are their own worst enemies
2) Neither of them are particularly honest
- People Over Parties - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:17 am:
What a sore loser. That’s all this is, she should quit pretending it’s about otherwise.
- OneMan - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:18 am:
===The ad was the beginning of the end?===
It didn’t help IMHO. The social issues Republicans knew what she was about. This just made it clearer to the GOP that is driven more by economics and government spending that they sure as hell didn’t want her as the candidate.
Killed any chance she had for getting the three GOP voters in my house and made sure we voted for Bruce.
- wordslinger - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:20 am:
–Not only were those claims false, they were so repulsive that the ad prevented a whole lot of people from contributing to her campaign and voting for her.–
So wrong-headed and unnecessary. Cheap, juvenile and vulgar. It was done that way solely for the self-amusement of the kiddie korps that produced it.
Compare and contrast with the DGA spot. That hit her points in a bright and positive manner (no matter what you think of the points). It also repeated, over and over, that Ives is a conservative, something the Proft spot did not.
- Rich Miller - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:20 am:
===Now there’s someone Jeannie can respect ===
Precisely why I used that example. lol
- Huh? - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:20 am:
1.4% - Jeanne Ives? Never heard of her.
- Real - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:22 am:
Ive’s sat there for over 3 years silently while Rauner did the same thing to others. You got your karma now goodbye to you. Rauner will be next.
- Ducky LaMoore - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:24 am:
Thanks Jeanne for taking me back to high school…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHacDYj8KZM
- TominChicago - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:28 am:
LP - so Rauner endorsed Trump in 2016???
- VanillaMan - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:29 am:
Good thing you guys don’t advise Ives. She doesn’t expect an ad. She expects Rauner to reach out to her and half the GOP that won’t support him. This is just another step she needs to take in order to begin being a player in the General.
From there she goes full-on negative on Pritzker and Madigan. After Rauner loses, she gets what she wants.
The only opponent for Ives at this point would be a Congressman returning home in 2020, or an unexpected Harold win.
Never take Ives literally - just as Pritzker’s supporters don’t take him literally.
- Sue - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:29 am:
Ives is our own Roy Moore
- Michelle Flaherty - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:32 am:
Rep. Ives’ asking price is too low. Maybe she didn’t read yesterday’s CapFax …
Gov. Bruce Rauner (R) raised an astonishing $215 per vote.
https://capitolfax.com/2018/03/21/icpr-rauner-raised-most-per-vote-by-far/
Let’s revisit the numbers and then Bruce can do the math …
Jeanne Ives Republican 341,836
341,836 votes (and counting) X $215 =
- A guy - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:32 am:
==Compare and contrast with the DGA spot. That hit her points in a bright and positive manner (no matter what you think of the points). It also repeated, over and over, that Ives is a conservative, something the Proft spot did not.==
So utterly correct in this statement. It was a tough race. She surged dramatically and came close despite very serious stumbles. Whether she or Rauner learned from this (I hope both did), a lot of people did learn by watching.
Feelings are still raw. We’ll see if a little more time heals things. I suspect we’ll see some warming up, but there won’t be hugs.
- Roman - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:32 am:
I’m still not sure about that impact of the “Thanks Bruce Rauner” ad. It did rally the conservative activist base and make her their standard bearer.
It might have created a Catch-22 for her. She needed to make a big splash and please Uilein to have any chance at all, but in doing so she cut off a path to mainstream acceptance and the campaign cash she needed for the closing weeks. Damned if she did, damned if she didn’t?
- DarkHorse - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:33 am:
Rich, I strongly disagree with you - there’s a difference between normal campaign shenanigans and outright, in my opinion, lies - which is what Rauner did to Ives. He disqualified himself by using all his money to stop her with a false attack. At the risk of your banning me, I think your being ok with Rauner’s tactics as part of the game is part of the problem. An ordinary person who’s not an insider would consider this a lie if they knew the facts of Ives record.
- Anonymous - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:33 am:
===Even then, Robert E. Lee graciously surrendered.===
But to be fair, Grant never published pamphlets claiming that Lee was Lincoln’s favorite general.
- Flat Bed Ford - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:35 am:
Ives is a sore loser on top of just being a mean person. She is indignant in her meanness to those who disagree with her but when things go against her she expects to be treated differently than the way she treats others? What a fine example of horrid character.
- Hysteria - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:44 am:
It sure didn’t help for party unity to have Pat Brady on WGN saying the Proft crew has to go away. That’s just telling Ives and her supporters to get lost.
- Ste_with_a_ven - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:47 am:
“there’s a difference between normal campaign shenanigans and outright, in my opinion, lies”
Then you should be upset with Ives. She came right out of the gate with negative, false and misleading attacks.
- Honeybadger - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:48 am:
Dan Proft is poison and hopefully Mr.Uehline will stop giving him money.
How many the races he was involved in were victorious?
- Worth It - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:50 am:
Many commenters here hate Rauner so much that they have continuously jumped out and defended the little engine that could Ives despite the fact they detest everything she personally stands for. I get that many here are political hacks, but at least stick to some belief system beyond “Must destroy all competitive republicans”
- Sue - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:53 am:
R’s like Ives and her supporters have cost the party at least 6 US senate seats. Let them all move to a single State and let it sucede along with CA on the other end of the loony tune fringe
- Anonymous - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 11:59 am:
I would be perfectly fine with Pat Brady and Dan Proft going on permanent hiatus. Neither one of these two self important individuals has helped improve the Republican Party.
- Steve - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:07 pm:
The reason Rauner and Ives play the victim card is they understand America is now a victim culture. In the oppression olympics white folks have to get creative…..
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/the-rise-of-victimhood-culture/404794/
- Juice - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:08 pm:
For Ives and her supporters who are feeling really upset that Rauner spread lies about her supporting Mike Madigan, Aaron Schock and Dan Rutherford would like to have a word with you.
- DeseDemDose - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:09 pm:
All the woman in the pink hats want a apology for Ives abortion lies.
- driveby - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:11 pm:
Differences in degrees matter. Rauner’s ads arguably were the worst ever for a major candidate. To brush them off with this “politics ain’t beanbag” stuff is to accept a new, lower standard.
- Lester Holt’s Mustache - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:13 pm:
Lol @ Worth It
==Many commenters here hate Rauner so much that they have continuously jumped out and defended the little engine that could Ives despite the fact they detest everything she personally stands for. I get that many here are political hacks, but at least stick to some belief system beyond “Must destroy all competitive republicans”==
You all hear that? Stop denigrating the pathological liar who is a moderate, and instead denigrate the mostly-honest but far-right wing loon. This is your final warning, he means it!
- wordslinger - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:15 pm:
–But to be fair, Grant never published pamphlets claiming that Lee was Lincoln’s favorite general.–
Lee was Lincoln’s first choice to command the Army of the Potomac.
- Hysteria - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:22 pm:
People on here and in the media like to blame Ives for the division in the party, but the fact is that Rauner is responsible for that. When he signed HB40, he went against his promise not to sign it and also against his “I don’t have a social agenda” rhetoric. How a Republican (or “Republican”) can sign the most liberal abortion law in the country and not think he’s responsible for dividing the party baffles me. And he now says we have to come together on issues on which we disagree. Um, abortion is one of those. So what does he have in mind?
- Mr. Smith - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:23 pm:
When Jeanie Ives apologizes for all of the lies she has put out there about a lot of people, then maybe I will feel just a bit of sympathy for her.
But probably not. She seems to think that she can fling mud and other substances with impunity but that others are not supposed to respond in kind. I would have thought that West Point would have taught her a bit more about the nature of conflict.
- The Dude Abides - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:26 pm:
Ives has no reason to whine, she knew what Rauner was but stayed quiet for the better part of 3 years while he lied almost every time he stepped in front of a microphone as he wrecked the state.
I’ll say this, it might garner Rauner some votes if at some point he made nice to Ives and in return Ives made a public statement to her supporters saying something to the effect ” I’ve had my differences with the Governor but the state is better off with Governor Rauner than JB Pritzger and I would ask that my supporters support the Governor in November”. I’m not suggesting that Rauner make a million dollar apology, lol. Some of those Ives voters will vote Rauner in November and some will stay home regardless.
- Pundent - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:28 pm:
=Feelings are still raw. We’ll see if a little more time heals things. I suspect we’ll see some warming up, but there won’t be hugs.=
I don’t think you understand why Ives got into the race to begin with. She wanted to send Rauner a message and I don’t think she’s done.
- Old Time R - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:28 pm:
-Sue- excellent point that people have forgotten about those senate seats. Also Jeanne Ives only needs to look in the mirror and at that disgusting first Ad to know why she lost.
Rich you hit it spot on about her misleading commercial also. But that’s the world the far right live in, it’s either believe in their cause or your a enemy. Never ever any give or take.
- Arthur Andersen - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:39 pm:
Rauner the ace private equity dealmaker will get Jeanne down to an ad in Proft’s papers and a new Buick.
- A guy - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 12:56 pm:
==Lee was Lincoln’s first choice to command the Army of the Potomac.==
True. This is a first hand account from Sling. He’s timeless! (jk-)
- Worth It - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 1:06 pm:
Lester,
If someone is right of Rauner and criticize him for certain bills, fine. If someone is left of Rauner and criticize him for certain policies, etc; fine. I just find it funny seeing some prolific commenters that have always been left of Rauner trying to prop up Ives over the past several months while conveniently ignoring what they would immediately call out as repugnant had she become the nominee.
In no way am I saying there are not earnest Rauner detractors, I am simply pointing out that there ones that are not forthright.
- Anonymous - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 1:11 pm:
==I don’t think she’s done.==
She (and Proft) are done. At least in this State. They’re just not smart enough to realize it (yet?). Their act doesn’t play outside of the South.
- Flapdoodle - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 1:18 pm:
==except doesn’t West Point teach you how to lose gracefully in non-combat arenas?==
To an ideological true believe like Ives, there are no noncombat arenas.
- Moderate R - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 1:41 pm:
Ives first ad lost mu vote, she is a mean spirited little so and so that I would never want in power. She is as looney as Trump, and as a Mod R they both make me ill, and sad for my party.
- Da Big Bad Wolf - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 2:11 pm:
Steve, I read the article. Two knuckleheads having a hissyfit over emails does not define a whole culture. Lol.
- Demoralized - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 2:48 pm:
==Never take Ives literally ==
As opposed to what? You seem to be in the know as to what she wants. If that’s what she wants then maybe should should say it.
That “don’t take me literally” argument is just ignorant.
- Anon - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 2:55 pm:
It’s so disheartening to see meanspirited comments like those from Moderate R. Completely unnecessary on this site or any other.
- Anonymous - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 2:59 pm:
Rauner has a chance to loose by a lanslide.
- ITANYA - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 3:00 pm:
Ives went to West Point? She should have mentioned that. Next you will tell me Scott Drury was a former federal prosecutor.
- just sayin' - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 4:03 pm:
Once again Ives makes it all about her, instead of the voters. This is why she lost a very winnable race.
At least Ives had a big platform and a few million to defend herself from Rauner. The rest of us in Illinois have suffered under Rauner. Where is our apology? Ives certainly doesn’t care.
- Open Kimono - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 5:07 pm:
Ives’s first ad got her in position to contend but also guaranteed she could not win. Anybody who has a family member who is gay, has a daughter who marches with a p-hat, has a Hispanic friend, or thinks well of public school teachers would be very reluctant to vote for Ives, no matter their feeling on Rauner. “I’m sorry, honey, Jeanne Ives doesn’t think you deserve the same rights as her kids — or even the same right to marry as a killer on death row gets — but I really like where she’s going on taxes.” Not gonna happen. She only won DuPage by four points; she probably only carried 60% of her parish. She gives voters more credit for being hateful and bigoted than they deserve; we’re not all like her.
- Generic Drone - Thursday, Mar 22, 18 @ 8:17 pm:
Way to go GOP. Party loyality first. Right?
- Da Big Bad Wolf - Friday, Mar 23, 18 @ 8:48 am:
Worth it, just a word of advice. You can’t put people in narrow categories like “left” or “right” and then get upset at them when they deviate from these narrow categories. For example someone from the left might prefer Ives because he or she is pro-life. Accept people for being the complex creatures that they are, and this blog (and life in general) won’t be so baffling.