57 Comments - Just Me 2 - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:03 am: A way to point out that the Governor is wrong is to follow the White House guidelines voluntarily. By packing people into close quarters they are proving the Governor’s point. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:04 am: In no way is Mr. Bailey a helper in this crisis, and it appears every decision to hurt people and continually choosing to put people in peril is on brand for a member of the Hateful Eight. - NIU Grad - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:07 am: If there’s a second wave waiting in the shadows, it’ll be in rural Illinois where proactive safety measures have been treated as a Democratic conspiracy for weeks. - Demoralized - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:07 am: The fact that a Circuit Court is violating the Executive Order doesn’t bode very well. Unbelieveable. - billy boy - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:09 am: 90 people social distancing no way been in that court room - No Longer A Lurker - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:11 am: I read that the media will start gathering for health screening and guidelines. Will there be health screening for the general public too? This seems like a disaster in the making with Bailey encouraging the public to attend. - Collinsville Kevin - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:16 am: Ninety people? Why all of Louisville and Xenia will be there. Unbelievable. - bowwow - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:19 am: I’m hoping Rep. Baily succeeds. The continued lock down is crazy. - DownSouth - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:19 am: Rep. Bailey is and has been problematic throughout this entire situation. The “Common Sense Tour” that displayed not only no common sense, but broadcasted a portion live on facebook that showed the group illegally entering a closed state park. This situation developing today - surprises me not in the least. Especially when you consider during his last presser he literally laughed at my question regarding entering the closed park, and offered a very vague answer regarding how could he reconcile his actions given the per capita rates in his district. This stunt today is a travesty and I can only imagine the eventual fallout to the masses who continue to insist this a “Chicago problem” that doesn’t affect downstate or southern Illinois. Take a long hard look at what is developing in Randolph, Jackson, Jefferson, Jasper, St. Clair and Perry counties currently and tell me again how this isn’t a downstate issue? - Oswego Willy - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:20 am: === The continued lock down is crazy.=== It appears society disagrees with you… - Rich Miller - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:21 am: ===The fact that a Circuit Court is violating the Executive Order=== A governor cannot impose his EO on a co-equal branch. - Nobody - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:22 am: Think some folks in southern Illinois feel this is more about the constitution of the United States and Illinois. That regionally with common sense local officials they could make a open responsibly . And I hope eventually the US Supreme Court can weigh in and rule for the citizens/government. Despite the polls. - efudd - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:23 am: Inherit the Wind 2020 style. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:25 am: === That regionally with common sense local officials they could make a open responsibly .=== Viruses know no boundaries. Nope. === And I hope eventually the US Supreme Court can weigh in and rule for the citizens/government.=== Lemme guess, you’re also a type that the courts can’t decide how you live your life in “other” things too. This is a tiring exercise, the phony discussion of activist courts, but the need for courts to intervene. ===Despite the polls.=== The people following science… they know that the governor is saving fools from themselves. You don’t. - Excitable Boy - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:26 am: - feel this is more about the constitution of the United States and Illinois - Feeling is one thing, actually understanding those documents is quite another. - Pundent - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:27 am: =That regionally with common sense local officials they could make a open responsibly .= This only makes sense if you believe that Darren Bailey’s common sense is superior to the scientists and doctors who have implored people to stay at home. There’s nothing to suggest that’s the case. - Demoralized - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:27 am: ==A governor cannot impose his EO on a co-equal branch.== True. But that co-equal branch can be smart and this one isn’t being smart. - Rich Miller - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:27 am: ===feel this is more about=== What did y’all used to say about feelings? - efudd - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:29 am: “open responsibly” Went to Cape Girardeau Saturday. Went by Lowes and Menards. There were easily over 700 customers in each. Didn’t go in. There is no “open responsibly” - Demoralized - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:32 am: Can some of you people who say your Constitutional rights are being violated explain to me why you believe this? Nobody is keeping you home. You are free to come and go as your please. Nobody is keeping you from gathering to protest. The state has always had the ability to close a business due to health issues. So what rights are being violated? - Graduated College Student - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:35 am: ====Think some folks in southern Illinois feel this is more about the constitution of the United States and Illinois.=== “The Constitution is not a suicide pact.” - bowwow - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:39 am: I recommend everyone check out the link on Second City Cop blog discussing the legal authority of the Governor to issue his EOs. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:41 am: === I recommend everyone check out the link on Second City Cop blog discussing the legal authority of the Governor to issue his EOs.=== Why? It’s an opinion. I thought the goal of the exercise to put 90 people in peril for a grandstanding is to get a court ruling. If you would like, plea the other side yourself here. - Demoralized - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:42 am: ==Second City Cop blog == Yep, that’s where I go to get my information on legal stuff. That’s why we don’t take some of you seriously when you use that sort of site as your link to “truth.” - weeds - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:48 am: Well at least IL isn’t trying to get the world record death rate like NYC is. It will probably be ok, folks. Calm down. Stay home if you have COPD. - Da Big Bad Wolf - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:49 am: Those pews look like they are 12 feet so they can maybe accommodate two people. 2 rows of pews with two people in them every other pew, but let’s say every pew and people stagger so it’s two and then one then two. That would mean the rows would have to go back 15 pews to make sure 90 people are safe. - OurMagician - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:51 am: I’m stunned to see Rep. Bailey now being pro-choice. - Multiple Streams - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:52 am: George Bailey > Darren Bailey - Da Big Bad Wolf - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:52 am: === I recommend everyone check out the link on Second City Cop=== I recommend everyone don’t check out Second City Cop because a mind is a terrible thing to waste. - bowwow - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:52 am: The link is to a legal opinion written by the Deputy Director of the Illinois State’s Attorney Prosecutors Office, not some cop. Like I said, it is worth the read. - LakeCo - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:53 am: Just have them gargle some bleach beforehand, they’ll be fine. - Hard D - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:55 am: No matter what happens today the appeal will be filed tomorrow. That’s the one for sure thing I Predict - Soccermom - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:56 am: This is breaking my heart. BREAKING MY HEART. Are the deaths in Italy a Democratic hoax? The virus is non-partisan, and I am terrified about what will happen when it gets loose in rural areas that are already under-resourced. People are going to die — and the deaths will not be limited to the people who show up in this courtroom. And as a Cook County Democrat, I just want to say — none of the people who show up today are expendable, and I get no malicious joy from their decision to place partisanship about their own health and the health of their family, friends, and neighbors. - Jocko - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:57 am: Rep. Bailey reminds me of the hot-shot lawyer who thinks he can negotiate with Hans Gruber in ‘Die Hard’. Judge McHaney needs to ask him, “what part of pandemic virus do you not understand?” - Demoralized - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:58 am: ==The link is to a legal opinion written by the Deputy Director of the Illinois State’s Attorney Prosecutors Office,== And if you had seen the post Rich had on this you would see the context of that “opinion.” It isn’t at all what you are claiming it to be. You should stop getting your “truth” from these types of sites. - Grandson of Man - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 10:59 am: Gov. Cuomo is now addressing regional differences in his state. He’s saying things need to be thought through. How about we think things through before acting rashly and reopening prematurely? - Anyone Remember - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 11:09 am: A surreptitious picture of how Clay County practices “courtroom social distancing” would be nice. - @misterjayem - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 11:20 am: “That regionally with common sense local officials they could make a open responsibly” A thesis disproved by this very post. – MrJM - @misterjayem - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 11:24 am: “The continued lock down is crazy.” Hard to argue with such a well-reasoned demonstration of logic and data. – MrJM - Abbey - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 11:24 am: Soccer mom, I’m in La Salle County. We have 44 positive, 1 death and 677 tested.of those, my city (pop. 7,200) has 9 confirmed with only 60 tested. My fellow downstaters need to get their heads out of the sand. I’ve seen posts about Darwinism in action, but these people are spreading it to those most vulnerable. - Out Here In The Middle - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 11:34 am: Those who think that COVID is a “Chicago” problem should read the Southern Illinoisan’s article on Randolph County. https://thesouthern.com/news/local/rural-randolph-county-has-one-of-the-highest-covid-19-infection-rates-in-illinois-here/article_420278d3-c36d-5fd1-98fe-b8bf6ef369e6.html#tracking-source=home-trending - Glengarry - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 11:40 am: Will bleachtinis be served? - Flapdoodle - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 11:40 am: Check out previous post on this blog regarding what you think is a binding legal opinion out of the State AG’s office — https://capitolfax.com/2020/04/26/multiple-disaster-declarations-are-actually-common-and-a-look-at-that-appellate-prosecutors-memo/ Dig a little deeper, do a little better - billyboy - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 11:56 am: just drove through Louisville the court house café across the street from front door of court house is open so all 90 can have a meal before going in to court house but it only seats about 35 people so hurry also there are a few good people in clay county please do not consider all of us as stupid - 44th - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 11:56 am: From the picture, 15-20 max in that room. ITs 90 BS that makes it pretty hard to get comfortable that society will self regulate enough. - cdog - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 12:13 pm: Data and logic? I’m in. Let’s look at the Cook County Medical Examiner ledger and observe the prevalence of extreme comorbidities in the deaths attributed to the Rona. Let’s look at how many deaths are from nursing homes. Let’s look at how many deaths are over 90. Let’s remove all those from the counts. Let’s wash our hands, Social distance, and go back to work because poverty kills, too. It appears Judge McHaney is using data and logic too. - Soccermom - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 12:16 pm: Abbey, anybody who talks about “Darwinism” in this context has never, you know, studied Darwin. It’s horrible that more people are going to get sick because we have made public health a partisan issue. And frankly, I think all the snotty jerks talking about “Darwin Awards” are part of the problem. It’s not particularly persuasive to tell someone to do something because they’re stupid and you’re not. - Lester Holt’s Mustache - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 12:18 pm: === I recommend everyone check out the link on Second City Cop=== That’s a very bad recommendation, unless you are actively seeking unabashed racist diatribes, goofy conspiracy theories and trump re-election memes. That site is the 8chan of the public service sector - Lester Holt’s Mustache - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 12:31 pm: In a way, I appreciate the Clay County courts doing this. If there are going to be experiments as to how fast and how far Covid-19 will spread following a crowded gathering, I’d much rather those folks down there be the guinea pigs instead of people in my area. What happens when you jam 90 people into a small space during a pandemic? Will no one get sick? Will everyone get sick? I don’t know, but Clay county republicans are apparently ready to volunteer their supporters in order to find out the answers to these questions. It’s a public service, when you think about it. - Graduated College Student - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 12:33 pm: ===Data and logic? I’m in. Let’s look at the Cook County Medical Examiner ledger and observe the prevalence of extreme comorbidities in the deaths attributed to the Rona. Let’s look at how many deaths are from nursing homes. Let’s look at how many deaths are over 90. Let’s remove all those from the counts. Let’s wash our hands, Social distance, and go back to work because poverty kills, too.=== https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/ Care to run the numbers on how many otherwise healthy people in this country might have modest circulatory system issues that could get out of hand fast should they contract COVID 19? Anyway there are solutions to poverty that don’t automatically necessitate manuevers designed to kick people who live on the margins off the unemployment rolls. - OpentoDiscussion - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 12:46 pm: It appears that Colorado is seeking an effective compromise and recognizing that urban areas are not necessarily the same as rural areas. This is something I have been saying for quite a while. A select piece of this policy: Gov. Jared Polis congratulated Eagle County on Thursday for being the first Colorado county to receive an exemption from the state’s executive order on coronavirus restrictions. Eagle County was the first to show it had met the state’s parameters, including two weeks of decreased cases as well as full testing and monitoring capabilities for suspected cases. “The rest of the state is about a week to 10 days behind where Eagle County is,” Polis said. “It is really appropriate that one of the first and hardest-hit counties is the first to really have your act together in a way that has the full confidence and support of the state of Colorado.” https://www.cpr.org/2020/04/23/eagle-county-is-the-first-colorado-locality-to-set-its-own-coronavirus-response-rules/ - Token Conservative - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 2:20 pm: There’s something to be said about the Piatt County Sheriff barely surviving COVID and a neighboring Sheriff practically insinuating it’s a hoax. - very old soil - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 2:33 pm: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/illinois-gop-lawmaker-walks-through-throng-of-protesters-without-mask-to-challenge-stay-at-home-order/ - revvedup - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 2:43 pm: It’s far too early to even attempt a general return to what passes for normal. As for Second City Cop Blog, the authors also manage to report on things the lamestream/mass media don’t ever question or investigate. Like any blog, readers must check and verify sources, weigh evidence, and not run with blinders on. There are trolls and conspiracy theorists on Cap Fax also, which does not negate its overall value and service to the people of Illinois. - Perry Mason - Monday, Apr 27, 20 @ 4:20 pm: Police powers like this have been held constitutional since 1905 when the Supreme Court upheld measures taken to curb a smallpox epidemic. It’s a frivolous, grandstanding suit brought by a Downstate bumpkin who has been eating too much greasy food and drinking too much of Trump’s Kool-Aid laced with Lysol. The proper remedy for the complaints of this tiny minority is the ballot box, and time will demonstrate that JB’s response has saved thousands of lives. The AG does have more important stuff to do right now, so this act inflicts real harm. - Da Big Bad Wolf - Tuesday, Apr 28, 20 @ 9:18 am: === As for Second City Cop Blog, the authors also manage to report on things the lamestream/mass media don’t ever question or investigate.=== Yeah just like I could go dumpster diving and maybe find a diamond ring. - Eastern Bloc Mitigation - Tuesday, Apr 28, 20 @ 11:33 am: Please please please give us permission to share the Pritzker approval ratings poll. Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.