Question of the day
Thursday, Jun 25, 2020 - Posted by Rich Miller
* Jamie Munks…
Gov. J.B. Pritzker said Wednesday he is not currently considering asking visitors to Illinois from states with spiking coronavirus infection rates to quarantine upon arrival, a measure the governors of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut announced they would impose as summer officially begins.
”That’s not something that we are looking at implementing right now, but going forward if we got the advice to do that, we might,” Pritzker said Wednesday at an unrelated news conference in Geneseo. “All I can say is that New York and New Jersey and Connecticut have been through an awful lot. They’ve had so many people die, so many people hospitalized. A really tragic, tragic situation. I can understand why they might feel a need, when they see other places on the rise, when they’re actually doing a good job of keeping the rates down, that they might look at every possible way in which to diminish or keep down the number of cases.”
* The Question: Should the governor mandate that visitors from states with high infection rates, or Illinoisans returning from those states, quarantine themselves for two weeks? Take the poll and then explain your answer in comments, please…
survey service
- fs - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:37 am:
Voted no, simply for the fact that it’d be virtually impossible to fairly and lawfully enforce it.
- efudd - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:39 am:
No. Good idea, completely unenforceable.
Can’t get a great number of southern Illinoisans to wear masks in grocery stores or other retailers.
- Larry Saunders - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:41 am:
The Covid upswing from neighboring states is approaching IL’s southern region which is most vulnerable in terms of medical resources. Community stats are one thing, but the Covid pandemic in IL prisons is lagging our general community stats, and we still don’t know how infected we truly are. Every precaution should be taken.
- Cheryl44 - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:43 am:
I voted yes even though I know it’s unenforceable. That was purely an emotional response–I don’t want people coming into IL and re-igniting this thing.
- 32nd warder - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:44 am:
i voted yes. clearly we have made great progress here in flattening the curve. it doesn’t take much for a person to visit from one of the more lenient states to reignite infections here. plus, if that happens, it will undermine the positive effects of our disciplined approach. those who disagree with the shelter in place would say that we failed, when we actually succeeded, but allowed visitors from hot spots to infect us. finally, JB hasn’t exactly been a leader. with several governor’s taking this step first, its JB’s MO to follow suit. He doesn’t want to be first, and he won’t be in this case.
- iggy - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:45 am:
voted yes, knowing that if anyone is traveling to the midwest they would probably be visiting all the surrounding states that have less restrictions.
- Anyone Remember - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:45 am:
Serious =and= snarky response. People getting off planes at an Illinois airport coming from those states should be issued a mask. An Illinois-themed mask.
- Grandson of Man - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:46 am:
Tough question, for a Soros Antifa new world order globalist like myself, who participates remotely in some of the most elaborate schemes plotted by H. Clinton from restaurant basements. We can’t really enforce that, but why should we pay for willful harm caused by states without the stringent measures we have taken to get even to where we are today?
Voted yes just so I can chant: build the wall, build the wall, build the wall.
- JS Mill - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:47 am:
I voted yes, knowing full well that law enforcement in some areas will not enforce.
- Huh? - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:47 am:
NY, NJ, and Connecticut have announced a similar plan. First thought was how to enforce it. States are not isolated countries, so enforcement is nigh impossible.
Voted yes, but impossible to enforce.
- Chatham Resident - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:47 am:
I voted yes. Also, as part of the SOS reopening, IIRC Secretary White is asking any SOS employees who travel anywhere out of state (even to St. Louis), to self-quarantine for 14 days. Not just to southern states with spiking caseloads now, all states.
- Michelle - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:47 am:
No, but it should be a strong recommendation. Here in the Quad Cities early on, Iowa issued said anyone returning from travel to other states should self-quarantine for 2 weeks. But it did not apply to people who live in the Quad Cities since it’s all one metro area. And I agree, it’s not enforceable.
- GregN - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:48 am:
Voted no because it could never be enforced. Those partying in WI or MO are probably the same ones who don’t wear masks here.
If there IS a way to enforce it, I’d gladly change my vote.
- cermak_rd - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:49 am:
I voted no because of enforcement. Also I can see Cuomo choosing to do this because those states put a quarantine requirement on his state’s residents at the start of Covid back in the pleistocene era.
- Nick - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:51 am:
Voted yes.
But at the same time I’m not sure how that could practically be enforced. We’re not going to station national guard troops at the border, we barely have enough people to do contact tracing as is without monitoring out of state visitors, etc.
- 47th Ward - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:51 am:
No. Un-American, unconstitutional and unenforceable.
I wish we didn’t need to even consider it, but since there is no federal, unifying response to the pandemic, states are left on their own.
If only America had a strong federal system of government that could encourage states to work together…
- All this - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:52 am:
Voted yes. Look six months ago nobody had Covid-19 and now in Illinois 6770 deaths, the USA almost 125,000 deaths. We have to do what it takes to stop it.
- @misterjayem - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 10:57 am:
“Should the governor mandate that visitors from states with high infection rates, or Illinoisans returning from those states, quarantine themselves for two weeks?”
I think it would be a good idea and that any decent person should do just that, but I voted “No” because 1) such a scheme would be nearly(?) impossible to enforce, and 2) its cost (monetary, social, political, etc.) would most likely greatly outweigh any benefit.
– MrJM
- Last Bull Moose - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:04 am:
Voted no. We remain one nation.
Also, don’t support unenforceable rules. They weaken respect for the law.
- JoanP - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:05 am:
Yes. But they should be required to quarantine in Darren Bailey’s district.
- Michelle Flaherty - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:06 am:
In “Contagion” the Illinois governor closes the borders.
Life, art …
- Red Ketcher - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:09 am:
Yes, But ? -Common Sense says Restrict the Spread - Maybe meet the Unconstitutional Argument with an Ironic & Unique Twist to “State’s Rights” Yes,But?
- Downstate - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:09 am:
A typical long haul truck driver will be in as many as a dozen states in a week. It’s ridiculous to think that you’ll quarantine a driver for two weeks after they made a trip through Arizona.
- tomhail - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:14 am:
Yes, if his science experts say he must. But not until, and not based on what (we) the voters think about it.
- Pot calling kettle - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:15 am:
Yes. (sort of)
“Mandate” is too strong and not enforceable. Request, suggest, recommend…all work for me. Folks traveling to risky places should think twice and then, if they decide to go, should self-quarantine upon their return.
- Wensicia - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:15 am:
I vote no, but I think they should be required to test for the virus upon arrival.
I’m still following guidelines issued before the state started phased reopening. I’d rather be safe than sorry. Please, wear a mask, wherever you live.
- Annonin' - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:17 am:
we voted yes because it might slow down a few magooes from roaming into IL with various stuff to spread
- ChicagoVinny - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:20 am:
I voted ‘no’ because it seems unenforceable. It should be recommended, requested, strongly encouraged.
- Logical Thinker - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:24 am:
This is ridiculous. What happens if WI becomes one of those states and people on the border who go back and forth daily for work can’t quarantine? Should they quit their jobs? How about people with second homes? Keep giving people more and more reasons to leave IL…..
- Zim - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:27 am:
I’m honestly not sure how it could be enforced. With so many Illinoisans having close ties to Arizona in particular, as well as Florida and Texas, I’m certainly concerned that we could be affected by those states’ failures.
- Joe Bidenopolous - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:30 am:
Yes, it’s unenforceable, but I voted yes. If the publicity from such a move kept one infected jamoke outta here, then it’s worth it.
- Ano - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:31 am:
Voted yes even though impossible to enforce and a bit inflammatory. However, we’ve come so far and would hate to see a new crisis develop. Just like from the beginning, this is on each individual to take responsibility not just for their own health, but others as well. Can that ever happen?
- ZC - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:34 am:
Wensicia 11:15 beat me to it. No, because we can’t enforce it, but we do free no-note-required testing, so anyone coming here from FL, TX, AZ, take a moment and take a test, and wait until you get the result back, before you start restaurant-hopping. That’s not a grave restriction on liberty, to wait 24-48 hours.
- Arock - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:38 am:
How many here joined the whine of the Democratic Party when Trump closed the US to European and Chinese travelers because of the pandemic to try and control spread?
- dbk - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:40 am:
Voted “no” although my impulse was to vote “yes.” As others have noted, there just doesn’t seem any way to enforce such a restriction (it would require national-level coordination, and we’re not going to get that ever, sigh).
Those whose neighbors / friends / relatives are returning from these states: please be wary of any contact for a couple weeks, and - if you have any influence over them - please ask them to get tested.
- Donnie Elgin - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:41 am:
Even if a “Scientist ” were to recommend it is impractical and unenforceable. If I drive my IL plated vehicle to Florida, I get to drive back up 65 to 90/94 and get in scot-free. What about a rented a car, they are registered and plated from all over. So unles you want to seal the borders and stop all travelers and ask for their papers - forget it.
- oldlobbyist - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:41 am:
This presents constitutional issues. You cannot impede or ban travel between states. This is why I voted no.
- Stones - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:52 am:
We live in Florida and they did this early on to visitors from New York and the Northeast states. My understanding is they were screening at the major airports and also set up checkpoints for out of state plates on 75 & 95. All that being said, I don’t think that many of our visiting snowbirds actually quarantined for the full two weeks. Simply unenforceable.
- Groundhog Day - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:55 am:
Wouldn’t need to if EVERYONE WORE a MASK
- Gooner - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 12:01 pm:
As others have noted, it would be impossible to enforce. We should avoid laws that cannot be enforced.
- walker - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 12:07 pm:
No, and not going to happen. Not Illinois’ governing style to secede from a union.
- bogey golfer - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 12:09 pm:
Voted no. Haven’t been to our vacation home in Michigan since the last 4th. Need to spend a couple of days there next weekend.
- @misterjayem - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 12:17 pm:
“How about people with second homes?”
You really know how to tug at my heartstrings.
– MrJM
- KikiStal - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 12:24 pm:
Yes. My sister and her family are on Marco Island FL. We just had a baby in March. We need her to quarantine before she can see us. She will argue with me but better safe than infected.
- zatoichi - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 12:34 pm:
Voted YES but have no idea how to stop anyone traveling by car, bus, truck, bike, motorcycle, train, walk or plane to comply. Gonna put entrance gates at every road that crosses a border? No likely. I keep seeing fewer and fewer masks in my eastern bloc part of the state.
- pool boy - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 12:38 pm:
Voted no. Although this sounds like you are doing something wonderful, there is absolutely no way to enforce this nor determine everyone that would fit into this category.
- Fly like an eagle - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 12:38 pm:
==How many here joined the whine of the Democratic Party when Trump closed the US to European and Chinese travelers because of the pandemic to try and control spread? ==
You mean all two Democrats? And the US wasn’t closed.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/the-facts-on-trumps-travel-restrictions/
- George - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 12:46 pm:
Build a wall and make Florida pay for it.
- Three Dimensional Checkers - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 1:01 pm:
I voted yes. It probably is unconstitutional, but I don’t care. COVID doesn’t care about states, and these idiot states are putting everyone at risk.
- Bruce( no not him) - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 1:14 pm:
I voted no. It would be unenforceable. Unless we activated the FEMA camps. /s
- NATTY BOY - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 1:25 pm:
Voted yes because the health of us that live in this state is most important and, if one comes in from a state that is having “issues”, that person or persons is threatening the health of this state.
- Mama - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 1:25 pm:
I voted No because it would be completely impossible to enforce, but it is a good idea.
- Mama - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 1:39 pm:
I do think all businesses should take their employees temp before they are allowed into the office, restaurant, bar, etc. to work. If they have a temp they should be asked to get tested for COVID-19. Testing is free right?
- Way South of I-80 - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 3:25 pm:
Voted YES - it is unenforceable but maybe some people will actually listen and do it.
- Ed Equity - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 3:36 pm:
People with second homes won’t come back. They move residency.
- Rich Miller - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 3:51 pm:
===People with second homes won’t come back===
If you’re in an area with a 20 percent positivity rate and rising by the day, you’re coming back or you’re silly.
- thunderspirit - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 4:05 pm:
I may like the idea on its surface, but it certainly looks like such a mandate would fail to pass constitutional muster, and besides that I’m not in favor of mandating something that is essentially impossible to enforce, so I have to vote no.
- d.p.gumby - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 5:02 pm:
Voted yes. Illinois has successfully don’t what most of those other states–Fla, Tx, AZ–have not done. Let’s not let them pull us back.
- RDB - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 9:42 pm:
No, as other people above mentioned, it is unenforceable. A lot of people aren’t even wearing masks inside gas stations and restaurants that I have seen, so I simply think it would not be feasible.
- thoughts matter - Thursday, Jun 25, 20 @ 11:52 pm:
==as part of the SOS reopening, IIRC Secretary White is asking any SOS employees who travel anywhere out of state (even to St. Louis), to self-quarantine for 14 days. Not just to southern states with spiking caseloads now, all states.==
Actually, that was the rule while we were working from home. It was ended once we went to stage 3 of the restore Illinois plan.