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Wednesday, Oct 21, 2020 - Posted by Rich Miller

* A.D. Quig

Patrick G. Ryan, the billionaire founder of Aon, has chipped in $1 million to the Coalition To Stop The Proposed Tax Hike Amendment, according to Illinois State Board of Elections records.

Ryan is now chairman and CEO of Ryan Specialty Group, an international holding company he founded “specializing in wholesale brokerage, insurance underwriting managers and other specialty services to brokers, agents and insurers,” according to its website. Forbes estimates his net worth at $3.2 billion. Ryan has also donated to Gery Chico’s 2011 mayoral bid, the Illinois Republican Party in 2005, 2006, and 2009 and Richard M. Daley’s campaign committee in 2006, according to state board records.

Citadel founder Ken Griffin has by far been the coalition’s biggest benefactor, chipping in just under $47 million total so far. But others on Illinois’ wealthiest list, including Craig Duchossois, Dick Uihlein, Muneer Satter, Jay Bergman and Sam Zell have donated as well.

Gov. J.B. Pritzker’s cousin, Col. Jennifer Pritzker, chipped in an additional $250,000 to the coalition’s cause, bringing her total donations to the group to $750,000.

* Ray Long

The Democratic Party of Illinois led by Speaker Michael Madigan has started to pour money into an effort to keep Illinois Supreme Court Justice Tom Kilbride on the bench with two weeks until Election Day.

Election records filed Tuesday night showed the Democrats put $550,000 into the Nov. 3 Kilbride retention campaign. That pushes the total political spending by both sides in the contest to nearly $7 million.

The contest is critical for Democrats because a Kilbride loss could jeopardize the party’s 4-3 majority on the state’s high court. With money from billionaire donors, Republicans are waging an anti-Kilbride campaign in hopes of knocking him off the court and getting a chance to capture the open seat in the 2022 election. […]

Madigan’s decision to pump in big money now may give anti-Kilbride forces even more reason to push the Madigan-Kilbride connection, Redfield said.

For Madigan, “the upside of being able to increase party spending outweighs the downside of the anti-Kilbride people being able to link him more directly to Madigan,” Redfield said.

…Adding… Jim Nowlan, Chairman of Citizens for Judicial Fairness…

Like he did in 2000 and in 2010, Mike Madigan is coming to the rescue of his favorite judge Tom Kilbride. The $550,000 Kilbride received from the Democratic Party of Illinois is just the latest in millions of contributions from Madigan and his allies. This is exactly why Kilbride must not be retained. We need to bring independence back to the judiciary, not another 10 years of Madigan control.

And from Ryan McLaughlin, spokesperson for the Kilbride for Supreme Court Judge Committee…

Wealthy individuals and special interests who want to own the Supreme Court are spending millions, including out-of-state dark money from unknown sources, to smear Justice Kilbride and mislead voters about his record. By law, Justice Kilbride is not allowed to solicit campaign contributions. To further maintain his impartiality, he has no role in fundraising – all such decisions are made by his treasurer – and no knowledge of the donors to his retention committee nor of those to the opposition committee. Justice Kilbride is proud to have support from Republicans, Democrats and Independents, and to have been endorsed by a bipartisan group of law enforcement leaders and police officers from across the district.

* Dan Petrella

The intensifying controversy surrounding Madigan, which includes calls for his resignation from a handful of House Democrats, hasn’t turned off the tap of campaign contributions. The four funds together raised nearly $4.3 million in the key preelection quarter, campaign finance records show. More than half of that, $2.4 million, was raised by Friends of Michael J. Madigan, which took in $1.7 million from labor unions and other political action committees.

The four funds ended the third quarter on Sept. 30 with nearly $20 million in the bank. […]

For comparison, the main campaign fund of House Republican leader Jim Durkin of Western Springs and two others supporting House GOP candidates raised nearly $1.2 million in the third quarter and spent more than $3 million, ending the period with less than $1 million in the bank. More than half of the money spent by Durkin’s campaign fund — $1.6 million — was transferred to the state GOP.

*** UPDATE *** Billionaire Ken Griffin just contributed $100K to Republican Pat O’Brien, who’s running for Cook County State’s Attorney. O’Brien disclosed a $196,800 haul this morning.

…Adding… State’s Attorney Kim Foxx reported $102K in contributions today. She’s reported about $350K in the past few days.

       

65 Comments
  1. - Riverside - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 8:14 am:

    Does anyone know of the success of states that have moved from a flat tax to a progressive tax, and what it did for their economy?

    The only one I can find is Conn.

    It will be interesting to see how voters in Chicago view the tax referendum in light of the Mayor’s announcement of new sales and property taxes.


  2. - Petey L. - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 8:27 am:

    2010-2019, four of the five slowest growth states have a progressive tax.

    State number 5?

    Illinois


  3. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 8:28 am:

    - Petey L. -

    Cite?

    Thanks.


  4. - Just Me 2 - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 8:35 am:

    The problem with the Madigan is who replaces him? DPI purposefully recruits light weight candidates who don’t know how to lead so that the mushrooms are easier to control.


  5. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 8:39 am:

    To the post,

    Maybe the question Raunerites need to ask themselves as they see these funding deficits… is it because we’re in the minority and we’re seen less important, or is it we have lousy candidates that can’t win and betting against them makes sense?

    At what point will a reboot be seen as a necessity, and necessary to be seen seriously?


  6. - yinn - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 8:47 am:

    Even if I believed income taxes were the only factor in a state’s economy, which I don’t, the level of progressivity can vary quite a lot from state to state.
    https://taxfoundation.org/which-states-have-most-progressive-income-taxes-0/


  7. - Birdseed - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 8:56 am:

    === - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 8:28 am:

    Cite? ===

    https://www.illinoispolicy.org/slowest-growing-states-have-progressive-income-taxes/


  8. - low level - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 8:58 am:

    What happens if Kilbride isn’t retained? Does that spot on the court become vacant or is a replacement appointed? Who appoints the replacement?


  9. - Precinct Captain - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 8:58 am:

    “In six of eight states (including the District of Columbia) that enacted millionaires’ taxes since 2000, private-sector economic growth met or exceeded that of neighboring states”

    https://www.cbpp.org/research/state-budget-and-tax/raising-state-income-tax-rates-at-the-top-a-sensible-way-to-fund-key


  10. - JS Mill - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 9:03 am:

    People who make hundreds of millions of dollars a year and are worth billions hate paying taxes. They hate paying for the infrastructure that supports their economic success and expect you to do it for them.

    It seems that many of the uber wealthy see their vast fortunes as a right and that they should not pay their share in taxes. I am waiting for one of them (my money is on a Uihlein) to announce their wealth is a divine right.

    Fun to see so many in my rural area with anti progressive tax signs (I know, signs don’t vote). I’ll never get why folks in the lower middle socio-economic class carry flag for billionaires.


  11. - Steve Rogers - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 9:26 am:

    @low level: the Supreme Court appoints a replacement.


  12. - Lucky Pierre - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 9:27 am:

    Maybe the question Democrats should ask themselves, in a state where they have super majorities in the legislature and control all 3 branches of government, is why they can’t oust Public “Official A” as the leader of their party?

    At what point will a reboot seem necessary?

    When the Fair tax fails and the state does not get the Federal funds it needs to balance it’s budget?


  13. - Huh? - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 9:35 am:

    I just love how the uber rich are flipping a dime to the anti-progressive tax groups.

    Why doesn’t anyone call them out as rank hypocrites for opposing a progressive tax struggle? What is good for the federal government ought to be good for State government. If they are so opposed to the progressive tax system, why aren’t they fighting for a flat federal income tax?


  14. - Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 9:39 am:

    Had a “conversation” the other day with a retired CPA who is dead set against a progressive tax.
    When I told him that if it fails the flat tax would go up he told me that “the state couldn’t just raise taxes.”

    I replied, “What?”.

    Again, this is a retired CPA.


  15. - Cheryl44 - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 9:40 am:

    JS, I’ve always assumed they expect to be rewarded for carrying that flag.


  16. - Riverside - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 9:41 am:

    JS and Huh?,
    For many voters, the issue of the progressive tax comes down to one thing, “Do I trust Michael Madigan?”
    He’s the one that will ultimately decide the rates and tiers. So the tax item is voting on whether you trust him with even more power.


  17. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 9:46 am:

    === For many voters, the issue of the progressive tax comes down to one thing, “Do I trust Michael Madigan?”===

    “But you get a tax reduction”

    “But… Madigan”

    LOL

    You can’t help the willfully ignorant, held hostage to thought when deciding against their best interests.

    ===He’s the one that will ultimately decide the rates and tiers.===

    … and yet, it’ll be a governor’s signature that makes it change.

    Maybe a civics lesson is overdue.


  18. - Riverside - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 9:50 am:

    OW,
    Does the actual verbiage of the ballot item say who gets a tax reduction? Does it even say what the top rate or tiers will be?
    If so, please show me that.

    Otherwise, we may be “willfully ignorant” to believe that Madigan won’t be making those decisions.

    Who do you trust?


  19. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 9:55 am:

    === Does the actual verbiage of the ballot item say who gets a tax reduction? Does it even say what the top rate or tiers will be?===

    The link to the Fair Tax calculator allows you to see all those things.

    Pretending you’re coming here, “babe in the woods” blind to that… c’mon, even Karen Hill pretended better

    Here’s the link;

    https://www2.illinois.gov/sites/gov/fairtax/Pages/default.aspx

    You can’t say you’re ill-informed, than also ignore a way to be informed… or say “Madigan”… and think that’s an informed take. Nope.

    === we may be “willfully ignorant” to believe that Madigan won’t be making those decisions.===

    Narrator: they are willfully ignorant, pretending to be victims… again.


  20. - Pundent - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 9:57 am:

    =For many voters, the issue of the progressive tax comes down to one thing, “Do I trust Michael Madigan?”=

    I trust Michael Madigan to pass a flat rate increase if the progressive tax doesn’t pass. There’s no other option at this point. You aren’t giving Madigan “more power.” He and the legislature can raise taxes on everyone at any point. What the opponents of the fair tax are banking on is that the flat tax increase won’t be nearly as bad for them as it will be for the middle class. They will gleefully allow you to vote against your own interests to protect theirs. Who wouldn’t?


  21. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:08 am:

    - Riverside -

    I just saw an ad with a letter carrier explaining *how* to use the link and see how the Fair Tax effects her, and you can check how it effects you…

    :)


  22. - Grandson of Man - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:10 am:

    What Pundent said.

    I agree very much that Vote Yes wasted precious time in getting its campaign and messaging started, sitting on millions of dollars before Griffin et al. got involved.

    However, Vote Yes has told us over and over that the vast majority will get a tax cut. We the voters are also on the hook for the CA passing. We are being repeatedly told we will get a tax cut. If it doesn’t pass and we get a flat tax hike, that’s on us too.


  23. - Mr. Hand - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:11 am:

    ===He and the legislature can raise taxes on everyone at any point. What the opponents of the fair tax are banking on is that the flat tax increase won’t be nearly as bad for them as it will be for the middle class.===

    I wouldn’t disagree with that notion, but it would be a political liability and maybe a crack in the Dems stronghold if they take the approach if we don’t get the fair tax everyone is getting taxed more.

    It is in the American DNA to not support tax increases. A lot of people can get behind taxing the wealthy for obvious reasons, but it would be a tough sell to blame the super weak Repubs for the tax increases for all, if fair tax is not successful.


  24. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:16 am:

    === but it would be a tough sell to blame the super weak Repubs for the tax increases for all, if fair tax is not successful.===

    So… instead of 78, 80 Dem House seats… they get cut down to size… 73?

    “Voters decided against the Fair Tax”… is an easy reminder.


  25. - Petey L. - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:18 am:

    Oswego, how much property tax relief do we get? They say property taxes will be decreased if the fair tax passes.

    When does it happen? How much do we save?


  26. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:20 am:

    ===how much property tax relief do we get? They say property taxes will be decreased if the fair tax passes.===

    That’s not on the ballot, please keep up, LOL

    === When does it happen? How much do we save?===

    Property taxes are a local issue.

    Your willful ignorance is comically sad.


  27. - 1984 - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:21 am:

    Wow, simply question regarding why second sentence of current statue will be removed if proposed amendment passes since it has nothing to do with changing from a flat to graduated income tax posted at 10:06 am removed by 10:15 am. Capitol Fax is a tool of the current establishment. Follow the money.


  28. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:23 am:

    “You can *keep* my income tax relief. Unless I get property tax relief I don’t want an income tax break”

    - … - Petey L. -, maybe

    C’mon, you can do better than this.


  29. - Pundent - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:26 am:

    = it would be a political liability and maybe a crack in the Dems stronghold if they take the approach if we don’t get the fair tax everyone is getting taxed more=

    The Dems will empathize with those that voted against their self-interests while reminding them of the choice they made. The state needs revenue. There is no other option. The only question that remains is from who.

    Tactically I think they would have been better off in raising the flat tax rate and then putting the progressive tax on the ballot. It would have made the choices here a bit clearer.


  30. - R A T - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:36 am:

    I know it is anecdotal but I have a strong feeling the tax will not pass and the reason is Madigan. Even staunch democrats I talk to say silly things like we cannot give that crook more money. I do not know how but that argument seems to be really working amongst all demographics.


  31. - A voter - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:52 am:

    A open door to tax retirement income is all I see.


  32. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:56 am:

    ===… to tax retirement income…===

    The Frerichs Tax is the poison in the milkshake.

    Good thing Mike Frerichs can’t raise your retirement income, as he thinks it’s worth discussing

    Mike Frerichs stands tall to tax retirement income, but there’s no 60/71 or 30/36… no Governor signing that either.

    ===all I see===

    Do you see the 60/71 and 30/36… who are they?


  33. - 1st Ward - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 10:59 am:

    WBEZ has a good article on Kilbride today. He said he would not take any Madigan money back in October. Also, opposing the ballot measure on redistricting could get some D’s to vote against.

    https://www.wbez.org/stories/its-about-one-party-rule-why-illinois-supreme-court-justice-tom-kilbride-is-in-the-fight-of-his-career/0fc55d2d-b4db-4ebd-8152-d17d4fd5577c


  34. - Huh? - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:04 am:

    Riverside - who will ultimately decide the flat rate if the progressive income tax amendment fails?

    Asking for a friend.


  35. - Riverside - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:11 am:

    “The link to the Fair Tax calculator allows you to see all those things.”

    OW,
    So a web link now trumps the verbiage of the ballot initiative?

    LOL.


  36. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:13 am:

    === So a web link now trumps the verbiage of the ballot initiative?===

    No.

    It will explain how it effects you… directly.

    I know you’re trying to find a way to vote against your best interests, but being purposely uninformed isn’t a badge of honor.


  37. - Riverside - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:23 am:

    OW,
    As I’ve said before it all comes down to trusting Madigan.
    You are willing to trust an open ended ballot initiative along with a web link. I am not. It’s that simple.

    As for being “uniformed”, you make lots of convenient assumptions regarding those who disagree with you. It’s more than unbecoming.


  38. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:30 am:

    === As I’ve said before it all comes down to trusting Madigan.
    You are willing to trust an open ended ballot initiative along with a web link. I am not. It’s that simple.===

    No.

    It comes down to understanding that 97% will see a tax freeze or cut, and the political will to change that in 3-5 years will be tough, given the gubernatorial election and new map.

    Being afraid of one person who first can’t pass a bill in the senate, and isn’t a Governor that can sign or veto a tax increase is truly a sad way to think you’re smart to vote against your best interests.

    You’ll be the first to whine if it fails and everyone’s taxes increase, again, “Madigan”

    Your fear isn’t anything strong, it’s a jellyfish spine to political realities to be proud of voting against yourself “because Madigan.”

    The in-law uncle married to the favorite aunt that “knows”…. “Madigan”

    === As for being “uniformed”, you make lots of convenient assumptions regarding those who disagree with you===

    Friend, I’m seriously mocking you in the Karen Hill prism, think on that.


  39. - Riverside - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:31 am:

    If a tax rate of 7.5%, on the highest earners is the leader’s intent, I wonder why he didn’t put that language into the ballot initiative? It would have been easy enough to do.

    The fact that they didn’t put a cap on the progressive ballot initiative is the glaring “tell”.


  40. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:37 am:

    === If a tax rate of 7.5%, on the highest earners is the leader’s intent, I wonder why he didn’t put that language into the ballot initiative? It would have been easy enough to do.===

    (Sigh)

    Because the CA is about the structure TO tax, the way to raise income taxes, not the rates to that function.

    That’s why there was a bill, now law, to set the rates, if passed.

    Keep up.

    === The fact that they didn’t put a cap on the progressive ballot initiative is the glaring “tell”.===

    LOL, tell of what?

    It’s a structural change to the income tax function.

    That’s what the CA is telling.


  41. - Riverside - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:48 am:

    OW,
    And the same “law” that was passed can easily be amended to create any rates and tiers that they would like.
    But of course, with the faith of Job, you probably can’t see that.


  42. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:52 am:

    === And the same “law” that was passed can easily be amended to create any rates and tiers that they would like.===

    *EXACTLY* like the flat tax rate can be… amended and changed to any rate they would like.

    No. Difference. None.

    But of course, with the willful ignorance of Karen Hill, you choose not to see that.


  43. - JS Mill - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 11:54 am:

    @Riverside- you keep saying it is about Madigan not the logic of a progressive tax system whereby the highest earners (not millionaires etc because it is about earnings not wealth) pay a higher rate.

    The progressive tax is not Madigan’s baby, itis the Governors.

    Madigan does not wield nearly as much power as you think, maybe take a break from Facebook on that one. His caucus is far more influential on him when it comes to things they want versus him on them.

    Regardless of Madigan or anyone else, your logic falls apart because the ILGA can raise our taxes any time they want if they have the votes. The senate is not, which you seem to have forgotten, is at best adversarial to Madigan, his relationship with senate democrats has not been great and they are needed to pass anything.


  44. - low level - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 12:41 pm:

    == The senate is not, which you seem to have forgotten, is at best adversarial to Madigan,==.

    Yes. Most people dont see that and assume he controls Senate Dems but that is hardly the case as you pointed out.


  45. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 12:49 pm:

    === At what point will a reboot seem necessary?===

    With Dems *still* gaining seats in the IL House, it’s not necesssy.

    Raunerites *still* can’t gain seats with Madigan still Speaker.

    It’s sad and pathetic that thinking Madigan is stopping the Raunerites from “winning”, maybe Madigan is merely slowing the swamping that continues to make Raunerites irrelevant.

    === why they can’t oust Public “Official A” as the leader of their party?===

    Why do it now? After the election, defeating more Raunerites first.

    I mean… lol… Raunerites have nothing else, running on Madigan… and Dems still see more seats in their future.

    - Birdseed -

    The IPI isn’t an honest actor in the discussion.


  46. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 12:53 pm:

    === The IPI isn’t an honest actor in the discussion.===

    If they were… then this… same link;

    === There was a common theme among the five top population performers, also. All of them had either a flat or no state income tax.===

    Illinois already has a flat tax… so… we need no income tax?

    I mean, if the commonality is a flat or no income tax, and we have a flat income tax…


  47. - Boone's is Back - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 12:59 pm:

    Anyone seen updated polling on the Cook County SA race within the last 5 days? All of these polls seem stale.


  48. - Dotnonymous - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:12 pm:

    What will Republicans have…without Madigan.


  49. - Riverside - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:18 pm:

    “Most people dont see that and assume he controls Senate Dems”

    Yeah, other than the fact that he’s Chairman of the State Democrat Party, you could be correct.

    Dems are trying to run away from Madigan, but they still elect hiim to serve as the leader of the legislative branch and the political branch of the party.


  50. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:19 pm:

    === What will Republicans have…without Madigan.===

    If they’re honest with themselves?

    A fighting chance to get off a losing narrative and reboot a chance to win elections.

    But… the Eastern Bloc…

    I’ve tried to help… but


  51. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:24 pm:

    === State Democrat Party===

    Your Rush Limbaugh silliness and signaling is noted, LOL

    I can’t imagine being so consumed, and ignoring that the message of Madigan is a loser, it continues to lose, abd will lead to more Raunerite loses this November.

    === Dems are trying to run away from Madigan, but they still elect hiim to serve as the leader of the legislative branch and the political branch of the party.===

    Prolly because “running away from Madigan” is accepted and embraced… because it means more seats in the end.

    Raunerites haven’t figured it out… Madigan isn’t gaining them anything except a bigger hole.

    “State Democrat Party”

    Wear a mask if you’re gonna mouth breathe that heavy.


  52. - 1st Ward - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:54 pm:

    “Anyone seen updated polling on the Cook County SA race within the last 5 days? All of these polls seem stale.”

    The below is the only one I’ve seen. Foxx will win the question is how much. If its


  53. - 1st Ward - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 1:55 pm:

    The below is the only one I’ve seen. Foxx will win the question is how much. If its


  54. - Mr. Hand - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 2:01 pm:

    Republican Strategy:

    1. Try to defeat Graduate Tax income
    — It is not a positive gain for Dems if they raise taxes on everyone, even if it was because of rich republicans.
    2. Try to oust Kilbride
    —Maybe can make progress on fair maps
    3. Rebrand their message to be more moderate - do not follow Eastern Bloc. Following the Eastern Bloc is like investing in Blockbuster.


  55. - Pundent - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 2:03 pm:

    =Dems are trying to run away from Madigan, but they still elect hiim to serve as the leader of the legislative branch and the political branch of the party.=

    Dems control the IL House, Senate, hold every statewide office, and two U.S. Senate seats. But setting all that aside, you make a good point.


  56. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 2:05 pm:

    === It is not a positive gain for Dems if they raise taxes on everyone, even if it was because of rich republicans.===

    The punishment will be forcing Raunerites to vote against a budget for women’s health issues, seniors, higher education, social services… and make Raunerites the cold, callous, racially monolithic candidates that still can’t win in the suburbs, or recruit folks that aren’t old, white, and angry.

    Raunerites don’t offer much, Fair Tax passing or not.


  57. - JS Mill - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 2:07 pm:

    =Republican Strategy:

    1. Try to defeat Graduate Tax income
    — It is not a positive gain for Dems if they raise taxes on everyone, even if it was because of rich republicans.
    2. Try to oust Kilbride
    —Maybe can make progress on fair maps
    3. Rebrand their message to be more moderate - do not follow Eastern Bloc. Following the Eastern Bloc is like investing in Blockbuster.=

    Let me revise that for you..

    Republican Strategy:

    1. Fire Madigan redux

    2. Embrace Trump
    3. Follow the Eastern Bloc and turn back time 150 years. No Science.


  58. - Boone's is Back - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 2:08 pm:

    Thanks 1st ward


  59. - Mr. Hand - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 2:27 pm:

    ===Republican Strategy:

    1. Fire Madigan redux

    2. Embrace Trump
    3. Follow the Eastern Bloc and turn back time 150 years. No Science.===

    Unfortunately, that is the more likely scenario. As OW said, forcing the Raunerites to eat crow probably has quite bit of appeal to Dems.

    The point is the Repubs (especially with Madigan stuff) can get back in the game and by back in the game they can get to section ZZ of the nosebleeds, but that is closer than the Eastern Bloc.


  60. - anon2 - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 3:19 pm:

    If the Fair Tax fails, and an income tax follows, look for Democrats to increase exemptions and other protections for the working poor in order to make the hike less unpalatable.


  61. - Riverside - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 3:28 pm:

    “look for Democrats to increase exemptions and other protections”

    Yes, anything but, you know, reducing spending.


  62. - Mr. Hand - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 3:32 pm:

    ===“look for Democrats to increase exemptions and other protections”===

    Or increase in other areas to tax the poor (gas, slot machines, marijuana, cigs, etc).


  63. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 3:34 pm:

    === reducing spending.===

    … and yet it was Bruce Rauner, after the tax increase, not only didn’t decrease spending, Rauner spent every dime the increase generated.

    That, and when Rauner Staff testified to senate committees, they couldn’t name a single cut they would make in their governing.

    You’re not good at this.


  64. - Downstate - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 5:03 pm:

    “and when Rauner…..”

    OW,
    Show me on the doll where Bruce Rauner touched you. Is this all you have? I suppose Bruce is responsible for the financial debacle of Chicago, as well? The Democrats own the economic mess that is Illinois and Chicago.


  65. - Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Oct 21, 20 @ 5:38 pm:

    === Show me on the doll where Bruce Rauner touched you.===

    Wow.

    You’re a creep.

    Are you … mocking… child molestation?

    Is that what *is* you? That’s terrible. It’s actually a sick way to think you’re smart to politics.

    If you need to mock victims of child molestation, maybe Facebook is better for you.

    === The Democrats own the economic mess that is Illinois===

    No Governor, not a one, went two years, a whole General Assembly, without a budget.

    It’s called the Edgar Ramp, because governors own, and the Republican Governor… he created it. Unless you think the pension ramp works, a Republican created it.

    President Phillip, Speaker Daniels, Governors Ryan and Thompson. They were all there.

    You are truly sick, I feel sorry for you, you should be utterly embarrassed, but you think that mocking child molestation wins the day.

    What a terrible way to live.


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