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Stay classy, goofballs
Tuesday, Nov 17, 2020 - Posted by Rich Miller * From the winningest attorney in all of Illinois…  * And from the most popular, totally non-goofy radio station in all of Chicagoland…
“Escaped.” And an “advisory” is just that.
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- Peopleās Republic of Oak Park - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:38 am:
If Pritzker celebrates in a big family gathering my g isnāt going to the reporter but the Dem with the courage to primary him.
- Swampy Corn - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:38 am:
Sigh. To all of it.
- Flyin' Elvis'-Utah Chapter - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:43 am:
I suggest anyone who takes Devore up on that thousand bucks gets payment in cash.
- Dance Band on the Titanic - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:44 am:
Pritzker should conduct his daily news conference at 2:30 on Thanksgiving Day, arrange for Amy Jacobson to be the pool reporter and let her bloviate to her heart’s content.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:44 am:
You canāt help the willfully ignorant.
So many Karens want to see the manager.
Maybe the Illinois State Police can visit Mr. DeVore and ask about the rules of this contest…
- Scott Cross for President - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:46 am:
DeVore will pay you in Prairie Fire gift certificates.
- walker - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:48 am:
Part of the “We’re all journalists” brigade.
- NIU Grad - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:51 am:
It’s so pathetic that the childish “he sucks” signs all over Southern Illinois are an actual rallying cry from these people. This is grade school stuff…
- Lucky Pierre - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:52 am:
An “advisory” is only taken seriously if the people issuing it actually follow it themselves.
The least he can do is not pretend he didn’t know anything about it.
- PraireState Sense - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:53 am:
‘Words’
- PraireState Sense - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:54 am:
All valid questions often met with public shaming
- LakeCo - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:55 am:
Is Mr. Devore familiar with Thanksgiving? It’s not Mardi Gras. Typically people are not “out celebrating”…
- Jocko - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:55 am:
JB is taking a short trip, only his is a Gulfstream IV and yours is a 2012 Kia.
- AC - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:58 am:
I think some are of the mistaken understanding that the discovery of even the smallest transgression from the governor or public health officials prevents the spread of the virus or make it irrelevant somehow. Meanwhile the hospitals are struggling with capacity issues, and there’s a great deal of unnecessary suffering because people haven’t taken this seriously. If real or imagined hypocrisy was an effective treatment for Covid-19 then the situation would be different.
- PraireState Sense - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:58 am:
I said this last week, we need consistency in the rules and behavior. The IDPH director asked a valid question last week and statewide leaders and mayors should consistently reply and think about and be prepared to answer.
- Tommydanger - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 10:58 am:
I have always struggled trying to understand the vitriol directed towards public officials when they institute safeguards based on medical and scientific advice in an attempt to safeguard the public.
What do they believe the motivation is for Pritzker or Whitmer and others in enacting these measures? That they delight in disrupting employment, education, interscholastic sports, dining, travel, etc etc?
Nobody gets this angry if they believe someone with good intentions does something they disagree about.
The measures being enacted are in direct proportion to our collective failure to do the simplest things. The ‘if I get it I get it’ attitude is fine if when you get it, you isolate yourself from others and if needed,you refuse to seek medical treatment and burden first responders.
If you’re the guy who sees himself as Mr. Chivalrous and/or Mr. Christian and opens doors for people, lets others with fewer grocery items check out ahead of you and attends religious services or otherwise prays and you refuse to wear a mask to safeguard others, well then you are a dangerous hypocrite.
We do things every day we don’t like or would prefer not to do, its just part of our responsibilities as citizens in a community. If your truly love your neighbor, then wear a mask.
- Dotnonymous - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:02 am:
Placing a bounty on anyone is risky business…recognizing it’s a two way street.
- lowdrag - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:03 am:
Like all politicians do, do it then apoligize and say i’ll use better judgement next time.
- JB13 - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:05 am:
I know we all hate Tom DeVore and Amy Jacobson, because, reasons, but…
It isn’t relevant if the governor of Illinois, who has assumed “Party of One” powers for the last eight months, and his family, don’t do what they are requesting everyone else do?
Many of ya’ll sound like Trumpers.
- Cubs in '16 - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:06 am:
===Hey @GovPritzker, you see this?===
Dear covidiots,
Just because JB lives rent free in your heads doesn’t mean you live in his.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:11 am:
===donāt do what they are requesting everyone else do?===
That would be an issue, but in this case it’s not because as far as I can tell no such request has been made by the state.
- Jason - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:11 am:
Hacking into signs is inappropriate. I will admit that I am
A supporter of Governor Pritzker but even if it was hacked against Rauner, it would have been wrong. This road signs are for safety. You should not put people in danger for a statement no matter what you want to say
- Thomas Paine - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:16 am:
=== an “advisory” is just that. ===
Legally true, morally false, politically untenable. Scientifically banned word.
The Moral Test is “What if everyone did it, what if nobody did it?”
If no one travelled for Thanksgiving, we would all be safer and lives would be saved.
If everyone travelled for Thanksgiving, the pandemic would explode, hospitals would overflow and hundreds of thousands would die across America.
Politically, Pritzker is not only feeding the animosity of the anti-maskers but fomenting the resentment of all of those who are making sacrifices. That goes for his immediate family, every parent has told a teenager at some point “my house, my rules.”
Taking a private jet does not make it better, btw. It just reinforces that there’s one set of rules for the Wealthy, another set of rules for the rest of us poor slobs who have a ten hour drive for Thanksgiving or Christmas.
- Hahaha - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:16 am:
Rich, he has said multiple times at recent briefings that people should avoid travel for Thanksgiving. Why would he urge a particular action for public health sake and then do the opposite himself. How can he expect people to listen to him then?
If you take COVID seriously, the Gov undermining his admins own public health advice should be a matter of concern.
- PraireState Sense - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:17 am:
Thomas Paine
Legally true, morally false, politically untenable. Scientifically banned word.
Yes. It’s semantics we are defending.
- Merica - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:18 am:
A lot of people knocked on a lot of doors. Some people knocked on doors when it was really inconvenient for them
to do so. The least he can do is skip a trip to Florida for one Thanksgiving.
Iām not saying he didnāt earn it. iām not saying he doesnāt deserve it. iām not saying the trip is hypocritical. But the political backlash isnāt worth it. His judgement will
take a hit for it.
- Amalia - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:18 am:
advisory. otherwise I can’t figure it out either. appointments made, places still open. I will admit that I’m not carrying on quite as before, but unless a place is closed, I don’t feel I have to stay away. confusing advisories.
- WestBurbs - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:19 am:
I’m a big fan of JB’s substantive performance during the pandemic. But I wish he would do a better job of walking the walk. Sure, its an “advisory” but he should be modelling best behavior. We’ve seen what happens when leaders model bad behavior (Trump, Rand Paul, etc.) As for the politcal fallout, ask Gavin Newsom … https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article247222289.html
- Thomas Paine - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:20 am:
=== Yes. Itās semantics we are defending. ===
Voters don’t do nuance.
- PraireState Sense - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:20 am:
Amalia
‘Advisory’ is the crux of this thread. Despite it all, since its just an ‘advisory’; he can do this.
- 41st Ward Tribune - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:21 am:
JB has good reason to travel, he is an important person who makes decisions on science. Whether it is celebrating a Joe Biden victory, a women’s march, or social justice march he will not be a Covid spreader. Covid spreading is for Bruce Rauner types. It’s a strange disease that seems to focus on certain groups.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:21 am:
===since its just an āadvisoryā; he can do this==
The advisory from the city says you should either take a test or quarantine for two weeks. It doesn’t say you can’t travel anywhere.
- Rich Miller - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:22 am:
===Voters donāt do nuance. ===
And that’s also true.
The dude really messed up in that regard.
- Eire17 - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:22 am:
Itās a bad look. Period.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:24 am:
=== The dude really messed up in that regard.===
The wheels are off, they seem off, they walk into the obvious, things are falling thru the cracks… politics, governing, the mesh of the two, messaging, something is off.
The self inflicted is becoming more common.
- Peoples Republic of Oak Park - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:27 am:
The defense of a billionaire taking his Gulfstream to FLA is just something. Let’s be real for a second the ONLY reason the travel restrictions are advisory is there is really no way to restrict travel by the State.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:29 am:
(Sigh)
For the love of Pete…
Are the airports closed?
Are trains banned from running?
Yāall make it seem like heās escaping from Alcatraz
- JS Mill - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:30 am:
Have you ever been to Dallas City? That is probably the only electric sign in town, shocked anyone there could operate it and change the wording.
- Excitable Boy - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:36 am:
Iām a fan of JB, but he should have thanksgiving at home with members of his household. Itās a pretty small sacrifice to prevent a large uproar. And itās the right example to set.
- Jed - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:38 am:
Itās funny. Yesterday the vast majority of readers were adamant that all schools should be closed to prevent the spread of Covid, but the vast majority seem fine with the governor hopping from hot spot to hot spot for the holiday because itās and āadvisoryā not an āorderā. I wonder how many people will die as a result of his selfishness from either bringing back the virus directly or by others inevitably seeing his irresponsible actions as a guide.
- Lake Michigan - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:40 am:
I’m beginning to think that Pritzker may not run again. He’d likely win, but what’s the prize for him?
His progressive tax was defeated. He owns it.
And the defeat seriously diminishes options for solving state issues, while tarnishing his brand.
Many of the perks of being governor have been reduced with Covid, while the scrutiny of his personal life have only been magnified.
The Illinois Democrat party is in near civil war, and he’s stuck with Madigan for as far as the eye can see.
Other than that I see him running again.
- PraireState Sense - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:40 am:
Lake Michigan
He likes being called governor.
- June's Cleaver - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:42 am:
The defense of JB is quite touching. Many people have been very inconvenienced by his executive degrees. They can’t afford to just fly away to their mansion.
- Wonk - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:45 am:
There is a difference between can and should. Can he do this? Yes. Should he do this? No. Not after telling everyone else that they should not do the very thing he is now doing himself. His credibility shrinks every time he doesn’t follow his own admonishment. When the legislature has abdicated its involvement in this crisis and he is flying solo with it, he needs all the credibility he can get.
- @misterjayem - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:49 am:
Own goal, unforced.
Neither JB nor the state can afford this.
– MrJM
- Mr K - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:55 am:
Projection at its finest.
What’re the chances that (a) Pritzker *won’t* be out “celebrating” and … (b) DeVore will?
If so — does this mean he pays himself?
- Outsider - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:56 am:
The leader of the working manās party wants his fellow members to eat turkey sandwiches alone while he heads to Sunny Florida in his private jet.
This is the year the Pritzker tenure turned rancid. Too bad, because he was looking solid the first 18 months.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:57 am:
=== while he heads to Sunny Florida in his private jet.===
Are ya just jealous he has a private jet or…
Pretty sure OāHare and Midway… still open.
- Is it 2021 yet - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 11:59 am:
In all seriousness … and perhaps I am incorrect … did the Governor ever try to prohibit people from going to their vacation home? I mean, if I have a condo in Florida, did he ever say I should not go to it (especially if I drive or take my private jet)? I donāt think he ever did.
- From DaZoo - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 12:01 pm:
As has been said here multiple times, people don’t do nuance.
Is his family trip to FL to be with other family or to a family vacation home? If it’s the former, it doesn’t look good from a governing stand point. If it’s the latter, than it’s only highlighting the haves vs. the have-nots.
- The Dude - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 12:02 pm:
JB lead in April and May….but I have no idea what happened but he has become a joke recently as he is failing to lead.
Shut the state down JB. People dont need to be discussing memories over Christmas but instead be making them.
If you leave for Florida during a spike you are abandoning the rest of us. This state will suffer greatly if you fail us.
Don’t fail us.
- Thomas Paine - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 12:11 pm:
=== It doesnāt say you canāt travel anywhere. ===
True, but IDPH issued a statement less than a week ago urging everyone to stay home as much as possible, traveling only when absolutely necessary. āWe wanna eat turkey on the beachā does not fit into that category.
=== Pretty sure OāHare and Midway….still open ===
āLet them fly coach.ā Is an argument, I wouldnāt recommend the press Secretary use it though.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 12:15 pm:
=== Is an argument, I wouldnāt recommend the press Secretary use it though===
Since Iām not the press secretary, or anywhere near this administration, and they are grateful for that Iām sure…
The point remains to the goodballs.
The point is about the silly, not the nuance.
- Oswego Willy - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 12:18 pm:
=== The Illinois Democrat party===
Unless you are a Democrat., and think youāre are Rush Limbaugh Iād say no. What do you care about the āDemocrat partyā
Do better.
- Cardinal Fan - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 12:24 pm:
Leaders lead by example. Sometimes it’s a speech, but more importantly, it is the action of the leader that defines the leader. Heading to Florida, if he indeed does do that, is showing to the rest of the state that what he says doesn’t match his actions. It’s the “Do what I say, not what I do” theory. Not a good optic for this time that we are living in.
- Montrose - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 12:36 pm:
“JB lead in April and Mayā¦.but I have no idea what happened but he has become a joke recently as he is failing to lead.”
I’m not saying Pritzker hasn’t made some missteps as of late, but folks were much more willing to be led in those early days. People took it seriously, the fatigue had not set in in the same way. The Feds actually provided financial support to people, so they were less anxious. We are in a different, much harder moment now.
- Da Big Bad Wolf - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 12:45 pm:
āI will pay $1000 the first journalist who provides me with footage of Pritzker out celebrating Thanksgiving with friend and family.ā
He didnāt specify year, and he didnāt specify which Pritzker. Some lawyer.
- Lake Michigan - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 12:58 pm:
“defines the leader. Heading to Florida”
Covid is just not a big enough crisis to keep JB in the state.
- dbk - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 1:03 pm:
Another big admirer of the Gov here, but this is a political and ethical faux pas.
There will be tens of thousands of elderly/semi-elderly Illinois residents bereft of their children’s and perhaps, grandchildren’s presence this Thanksgiving.
As Illinois’ First Citizen, it morally behooves the Governor to conform to the travel advisory - for the sake of those tens (hundreds?) of thousands who will be alone this Thanksgiving, if nothing else.
It’s the least he can do.
- Mr. Hand - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 1:10 pm:
Maybe he needs to ask Bruce a few questions.
- Rudyās teeth - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 1:23 pm:
Tommy DeVore morphed into a Ralph Kramden/Oliver Hardy caricature places the citizens of Illinois at great risk just to make a buck. Carnival barker aka attorney available for a fee. Stop grandstanding. Follow science.
- Roadiepig - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 1:24 pm:
As someone who used to change the message on the portable message boards for IDOT, hacking them is very unlikely . The computer has to be attached to the port under the locked lid inside the battery box, so that means a employee likely added that to the sign (unless a hacker somehow had a key to enter the battery box and a laptop with the software to change the message). If it was a IDOT sign and employee, disciplinary action should be done to the offender
- Amalia - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 1:33 pm:
I totally get that it is advisory and I’m not suggesting the Gov is in violation either in law or in spirit. lots of things closing during the advisory.
- filmmaker prof - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 3:13 pm:
This is exactly why Jacobsen cannot claim to be, nor hide behind the protections for, a journalist. Real journalists do not cherry pick and share only information that fits their own pre-conceived, baked-in, and unshakeable narrative.
- EssentialWorkingMom - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 3:35 pm:
==Have you ever been to Dallas City?==
I have and it doesn’t surprise me that they have a message board near there, it’s near an intersection of two state routes. However, I’m most amused by the misspelling of “TRUMMP”. I’m taking my small laughs where I can get them these days.
- dwdelaney - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 3:40 pm:
heard someone once say, “it’s Bernie’s town, everyone else just lives here”.
- DuPage - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 7:17 pm:
@- Roadiepig - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 1:24 pm:
===As someone who used to change the message on the portable message boards for IDOT, hacking them is very unlikely . The computer has to be attached to the port under the locked lid inside the battery box, so that means a employee likely added that to the sign (unless a hacker somehow had a key to enter the battery box and a laptop with the software to change the message). If it was a IDOT sign and employee, disciplinary action should be done to the offender===
The newest ones are programed via online/cellphone link.
- Mises - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 8:55 pm:
Health nut JB Pritzker (effectively): “Do as I say, not as I do”
- Sciency - Tuesday, Nov 17, 20 @ 9:04 pm:
@Tommydanger
Let’s really look and talk about the science of this. We aren’t really doing that. Are positivity metrics the best metric or the only metric Illinois should be considering. That’s not what at least one of Pritzker’s scientific advisors says. The studies that have been done about how COVID is spread - indoor dining for instance. What is the control in those studies? Did everyone “surveyed” stay at home and then only go out to an indoor restaurant and got COVID? We are destroying people’s lives and businesses and, with all due respect, Gov. Pritzker is not a scientist or a doctor. Dr. Ngozi Ezike is a pediatrician and an internist, not an expert in infectious disease. If some scientific or medical voices are not heard, we aren’t really having a discussion about this. And frankly, I’m not sure how so many news outlets became experts on a virus that not even the experts understand. Sincere, honest discussion needed - unless this really isn’t about health.