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Question of the day
Friday, May 28, 2021 - Posted by Rich Miller * Senate President Don Harmon in March…
* So, I asked the spokespersons for the House Speaker and Senate President if they would reconvene their chambers after the detailed Census numbers finally come out in August/September if the data shows that the Democrats could’ve drawn even more favorable maps for protected racial and ethnic minorities. This is from Jaclyn Driscoll of the House Democrats..
John Patterson with the Senate Dems…
* The Question: Should the General Assembly reconvene and then reconfigure the state legislative district maps if the Census data shows that the maps do not fully reflect the diversity of Illinois? Take the poll and then explain your answer in comments, please… picture polls
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- Pot calling kettle - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 2:19 pm:
Yes. And they should commit to doing so.
That said, it is unlikely that the census data will be that different.
- Annon3 - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 2:29 pm:
Yes, Elections have consequences so they should take every opportunity that the map reflects this.
- Dysfunction Junction - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 2:32 pm:
Yes, but let’s not forget the bigger context of how we got here. There was monkeying around at a national level - attempts to add a citizenship question that went to the USSC, mail delays, early end to the census counting, etc. Add to that the desire of ILGOPs to run down the clock and have redistricting control decided by a coin flip, and you see how we got here.
- DuPage Saint - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 2:38 pm:
I said yes but I agree with comment above I don’t think these maps will be that far off to justify a re do. But if they are definitely do over
- Consultant101 - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 2:46 pm:
In theory yes, but I said no because it wouldn’t change much overall with the Democrat supermajority in both chambers so why waste the time.
- Mama - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 2:47 pm:
I voted no because I don’t trust Trump’s Census Data.
- thisjustinagain - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 2:59 pm:
This redistricting isn’t about the current Democratic buzzward “diversity”, it is about consolidating Dem power and isolating Republicans. Being based on useless data (the law plainly says decennial census data, not dated ACS data), it is already subject to challenge. Districts must first and foremost be of “substantially equal population” (People ex rel. Burns v. Ryan, 147 Ill.2d 270, 296, 167 Ill.Dec. 903, 588 N.E.2d 1033 (1992)). So their push for “diversity” (which means pushing Republican “pairs” to create Dem strongholds), is hardly diverse and belies their claims.
- Jo Jo Monkeyboy - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 3:04 pm:
Of course, but really they should do what they agreed to on a bi-partisan basis - form an independent commission to draft maps. That’s what a majority of Illinois voting citizens want. That’s all.
- Rabid - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 3:23 pm:
No, the GOP will want a coin toss
- Edyrdologist - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 3:24 pm:
If the future data represents a significant change absolutely. The whole crux of the (non-cynical) argument for the Dems retaining control of the remap process rather than kicking it to an independent commission is that the segregated geography of Illinois’ population would dilute the representation of racial and ethnic minorities under a “Fair Maps” scenario. If they don’t ensure the map rectifies that fact as much as possible, it just looks like Dems are doing the remap because they like “Fair Maps for Democrats”.
- Friendly Bob Adams - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 3:26 pm:
No one could have predicted the pandemic or the delay in the decennial Census data. Illinois has a deadline for redistricting and using the ACS data is a valid method to meet that deadline.
- DMC - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 3:29 pm:
They should draw squares and call it today. This crap gets old regardless of party.
- Rich Miller - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 3:32 pm:
===No, the GOP will want a coin toss ===
If it’s enacted by the deadline, I’m pretty certain they can reopen it later.
- Jo Jo Monkeyboy - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 3:33 pm:
Is there a reason the Ds put the two most un-prepared sponsors on the maps legislation? It makes the caucus appear as though they don’t give a flying filibuster what the rest of the citizenry think.
- Nick - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 3:56 pm:
I’d say yes.
Also the disparities between them should? be small enough that you’re just moving precincts around, rather than say totally reconstructing districts or forcing incumbents to primary eachother again.
Famous last words, of course.
- Anon1 - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 3:59 pm:
Leader Hernandez is not really the best person to debate a highly controversial and complicated remap resolution. However, she would be great at narrating a sleep story on the Calm app.
- Rich Miller - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 3:59 pm:
Stay on topic, please.
- TheInvisibleMan - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 4:11 pm:
I was originally going to vote yes, but after some brief thought I’ve changed my mind.
The delay in this census data is due to the games the previous federal administration was playing with census questions. The state legislature is doing the job they are required to do, in the timeframe they have to do it in, with the data available to them at that time.
Actions, like elections, have consequences.
Don’t like the unintended consequences of a broken government. Then don’t break it on purpose.
- Annonin' - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 4:24 pm:
We should reconvene ONLY if we get GOPies more $$$ to develop some decent material…TanTrumTim mish mash is the worse and does nothing to boost efforts for whatever higher office he covets. Meanwhile his sidekick rantyRyan is equally bland
- Occasional Quipper - Friday, May 28, 21 @ 4:28 pm:
I voted yes. If we ever have the situation of delayed census data again in the future, it would be very good to know how accurate it was to use the ACS data.