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Fox News poll: School mask mandates favored 67-31
Monday, Sep 20, 2021 - Posted by Rich Miller * Fox News poll… 
In addition, a mere 17 percent of respondents said they believed that neither face masks nor the coronavirus vaccine are effective. Keep in mind that this is Illinois, which tends to poll more to the liberal side. So, you can probably safely bump up those national mitigation favorables here. * Methodology…
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- ChuckIL - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:27 am:
Fox has always had a strong polling unit.
- New Day - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:28 am:
I hate to be crass. I really do. But given that this is now a pandemic of the unvaccinated, it’s hard not to see Darwin at work.
- anon2 - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:31 am:
It’s all-but-certain that the GOP gubernatorial nominee will embrace the anti-mask and anti-vax belief of a small minority of voters. Good news for JB.
- dan l - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:31 am:
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I hate to be crass. I really do. But given that this is now a pandemic of the unvaccinated, it’s hard not to see Darwin at work.
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we’ve reached the intelligence test portion of the pandemic. The smarts are wearing masks and getting vaxed. The not so smarts are eating horse paste
- Pundent - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:32 am:
All of this underscores why Jim Durkin doesn’t want COVID to be an issue in the 2022 elections. And yet the candidates for Governor seem intent on doubling down.
- phenom_Anon - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:36 am:
=I hate to be crass. I really do. But given that this is now a pandemic of the unvaccinated, it’s hard not to see Darwin at work.=
Doesn’t sound like you hate it. It’s fun to be glib like that until an unvaccinated person infects a kid who isn’t allowed to get the vaccine. Or until it’s your friend or relative who just won’t listen to reason and gets covid while unvaccinated.
- Anyone Remember - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:36 am:
=== … it’s hard not to see Darwin at work.===
To use Fritz Hollings’ comment about Ronald Reagan: “Couldn’t he have used a cheaper credit card?”
- illinifan - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:38 am:
It is time we don’t give so much attention to this vocal minority. Keep putting policies in place that are right. Wish they required vaccines for flying domestically.
- truthteller - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:45 am:
seems like foxnews propaganda effort failed
- The Doc - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:47 am:
==Keep in mind that this is Illinois, which tends to poll more to the liberal side. So, you can probably safely bump up those national mitigation favorables here.==
Another reason to stop kowtowing to the voluntarily unvaccinated minority.
- What's in a name? - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:50 am:
We certainly have our challenges but at least most of us believe in science. Maybe Illinois isn’t so bad after all.
- northernwatersports - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:51 am:
These numbers, given the current environment, tell me that Dems should be running tough on Covid (leadership), and let the GOP gov front runners double down and set the tone for the general (ie; circular firing squad up AND down the ballot.
When your opponent is explaining, they’re losing.
Covid and Trumpism will fade slowly to other issues over time. But continuing to appeal ONLY to your base just to get whacked by moderate voters in the general is NOT an affective plan to build back the GOP in Illinois.
- Roman - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:56 am:
== All of this underscores why Jim Durkin doesn’t want COVID to be an issue in the 2022 elections. ==
Yep. Anti-vax/mask messaging is not a winning formula in the suburban areas the GOP is hoping to regain or defend. Problem is, it might be a winning message in Republican primaries, which is why plenty of Durkin’s members will use it between now and June. (Subscribers know more.) Short term primary gain will lead to general election pain — and Durkin know it.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 10:58 am:
=== (Subscribers know more.)===
Xoxoxoxo
- Amalia - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:01 am:
it’s not just the so called typical Fox viewer who is mask/vaccine averse. witness the recent Nikki Minaj my cousin’s friend in Trinidad commentary which actually required the ministry in Trinidad to hold a press conference and refute that the vaccine would affect, um, the manly parts.
- CubsFan16 - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:22 am:
Whenever I look at polling on COVID related issues it always amazes me that many in the GOP think it is a winning strategy to side with * 30% * of the electorate.
- Concerned in Illinois - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:23 am:
The main stream media doesn’t always get the numbers right. Where were the news outlets when it comes to reporting on the voices and events of the people? Just like a certain local television station didn’t give much attention to worth while coverage to the Freedom rally which was held on Saturday 9/18. Also, these citizens were about Freedom of choice when it comes to medical decisions like taking the Vax. If the left decrys ” my body my choice” then that should apply to rest of Americans. Also it was reported on NBC news that vaccinated people can still spread the virus. Why doesn’t our leadership go after super spreaders coming up from The borders? Hypocrisy in government.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:30 am:
===didn’t give much attention to worth while coverage to the Freedom rally which was held on Saturday 9/18===
LOL
You mean this little thing?
Hilarious.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:34 am:
Someone is watching FoxNews, while ignoring FoxNews, LOL
===Why doesn’t our leadership go after super spreaders coming up from The borders?===
I mean, seriously, lol… the invasion.
Another FoxNews doozy, lol
===Also, these citizens were about Freedom of choice when it comes to medical decisions like taking the Vax. If the left decrys ” my body my choice”===
Now all of a sudden, after the Texas abortion “win” ya wanna talk “my body my choice”
The adults are talking, you can quote the Tucker Carson silly, especially the stuff he knows is untrue.
Rich, that picture is priceless
- dan l - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:38 am:
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It’s fun to be glib like that until an unvaccinated person infects a kid who isn’t allowed to get the vaccine. Or until it’s your friend or relative who just won’t listen to reason and gets covid while unvaccinated.
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What’s the alternative? You can’t change their minds…
- Lefty Lefty - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:38 am:
It’s heartening to see the Freedom rally goers practicing social distancing.
- Jocko - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:39 am:
==[T]hese citizens were about Freedom of choice when it comes to medical decisions==
I hope you have the strength of your convictions to stay out of the hospital or sign a DNR prior to intubation. Your medical decision, right?
- MisterJayEm - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:41 am:
“If the left decrys ‘my body my choice’ then that should apply to rest of Americans.”
I encourage you to learn the meaning of the word “decry.”
– MrJM
- Concerned in Illinois - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:50 am:
Yes. Thankyou for posting a photo. Did you notice the number of cars honking in support? That photo was probably taken before everyone got there. This rally was organized by local citizens at the last minute and having 60-70 who came including families was a good number for a short notice rally. I remember when the very first reopen Illinois rally had five people last year and was reported by Center Square news. Several reopen rallies followed with hundreds in attendance. Government by the people, so give them there voice.
- Blue Dog - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:53 am:
I don’t seem to be seeing much mask use off campus at SIUC. Same as at Friday night h.s. Football. Albeit outdoors, but close proximity.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:54 am:
=== Did you notice the number of cars honking in support?===
“Did you see the number of yard signs we had?”
=== 60-70===
That’s not a rally, that’s a smallish wedding, lol
===so give them there voice===
They have Facebook. Go on there, complain about when pictures are taken, “fake news”, “the left”… as polling continues to show the minority is hurting the fighting of the virus for a phony, lemming-type, thinking that makes no logical sense.
60-70… my goodness… lol
- cermak_rd - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:54 am:
I have a problem with celebrating Darwin because social Darwinism has been a wholly negative ideology since it began. THe idea that some people are not worthy of human life. Even the unvaccinated are not that. They are obstinate, misinformed, at times, disinformed, and willfully ignorant, but they are not unworthy of human life.
Also, about 1% of the COVID deaths are in the vaccinated bucket so that is (back of the envelope math) about 15 people a day. People who did what they thought they needed to survive. It’s just that the uncontrolled spread across the nation puts a stress test on the vaccine.
- JS Mill - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:56 am:
=Did you notice the number of cars honking in support? That photo was probably taken before everyone got there.=
Stated differently-
“we’re streaking the quad”
“where are all of the people?”
“There’s more coming.”
- TheInvisibleMan - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 11:57 am:
– Where were the news outlets when it comes to reporting on the voices and events of the people? –
I’ve seen this same echo chamber developing on local social media. They honestly think, and have said, “Based on the comments on this story it looks like the tide is turning and people are starting to wake up”.
It hasn’t crossed their mind that the majority of people have simply disengaged from them and have left them behind. In the little echo chamber of social media, they think the same 8 people saying the same thing means they are winning.
- wildcat12 - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:01 pm:
=Did you notice the number of cars honking in support? That photo was probably taken before everyone got there.=
Are you sure they were honking in support or honking to draw attention to a certain finger being raised?
- wildcat12 - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:02 pm:
Also, you’ve gotta love the “immigrant super spreaders” narrative. That means these folks recognize that unvaccinated people are a danger. But, apparently, only immigrants who are unvaccinated? These good ol’ unvaccinated Americans are certainly not a threat. Just the unvaccinated coming across our border.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:03 pm:
wildcat12 nailed it.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:05 pm:
===Did you notice the number of cars honking in support?===
You’re a dead-ender. Literally. Put your mask on and get your shots.
- Da big bad wolf - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:05 pm:
===Why doesn’t our leadership go after super spreaders coming up from The borders?===
Title 42 is still in effect.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:05 pm:
===These good ol’ unvaccinated Americans are certainly not a threat. Just the unvaccinated coming across our border.===
The racist thinking is part of the pushback.
It allows all thinking to be anti-vax… to seem… smart to the vocal minority
- Grandson of Man - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:07 pm:
Maybe many thought the pandemic would undo the California governor, but it’s the opposite—especially considering the political disparity of where the pandemic is the worst now. How’s the freedom in Idaho? The hospital system there is reportedly overwhelmed.
- TheInvisibleMan - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:16 pm:
– Also, you’ve gotta love the “immigrant super spreaders” narrative. –
I don’t love it even a little bit.
This is what my county health department director is openly discussing and highlighting as a concern for the county, according to the august public health and safety meeting minutes.
- Concerned in Illinois - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:17 pm:
The point is, when it comes to the media and the press, give the people a voice and not squelch or ignore their views. It doesn’t matter if others disagree or not, let the people be heard and the media needs to do a better job. I respect even those who disagree but there is a reason for the exchange of ideas in this country. P.S. To those who poke fun at others views doesn’t help us to be united, it only creates more division.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:19 pm:
===let the people be heard===
Get more people.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:20 pm:
===The point is===
You’re a dead ender, lack the sophistication to understand “my body my choice” and you have a need to make racist thinking a crutch.
Get the shot, mask up.
Good luck.
- FIREDup! - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:25 pm:
A local business owner organized this “event”. They’re in the service industry and gave quite the reputation. They didn’t mind the government’s PPP, but masking and vaccinations are a problem? Got it. Oh, and they allow their college-age daughter to work for Matt Gaetz. So there’s that….
- Give Me A Break - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:25 pm:
Reminds me of the HS football coaches who were telling anyone who would listen hundreds of families were going to move out-of-state if the 2019 HS football season was cancelled.
Anyone heard from those hundreds of families how they sold their homes, found new jobs and moved to other states?
- IT Data Guy - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:36 pm:
== give the people a voice and not squelch or ignore their views ==
Nope. Science isn’t opinion. If your views are factually incorrect, you don’t deserve a voice. The “Freedom Rally” got all of the attention it needed, which is none at all.
- ChicagoVinny - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:49 pm:
=== What’s the alternative? You can’t change their minds… ===
Broad vaccine mandates in the public and private sector, that’s the alternative. We don’t need to change their minds, just give consequences to their choices.
- 47th Ward - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 12:54 pm:
I wish one of these FOX News polls would ask FOX viewers their opinion of masking and mandatory vaccines. Then maybe FOX would understand the impact right wing news has on its audience.
- Dotnonymous - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 1:13 pm:
Did you notice the switch?…from immigrant to “migrant”.
- dan l - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 1:13 pm:
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Broad vaccine mandates in the public and private sector, that’s the alternative. We don’t need to change their minds, just give consequences to their choices.
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Exactly! It’s why I don’t mind being a little glib since the air is coming out of their tiers so quickly. Only so many will be claiming religious exemption, or will be silly enough to quit a good job or whatever else they’re doing. They’re getting vaxed one way or another.
- very old soil - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 1:23 pm:
“Yes. Thankyou for posting a photo. Did you notice the number of cars honking in support?”
If you can hear the cars honking by looking at the photo, do they drown out the voices in your head? /s
- G'Kar - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 1:25 pm:
When I was a sophomore in high school, I decided to run for student body president. My friends in home room were all enthusiastic and supportive. When the election was held, I overwhelming won the votes of my small circle of friends, and no one else. I learned an important lesson that day about living in an echo chamber. It seem that Concerned in Illinois and many others on social media have not learned that lesson.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 1:26 pm:
===votes of my small circle of friends, and no one else===
I did the exact same thing.
- Pot calling kettle - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 1:41 pm:
===Did you notice the number of cars honking in support?===
You don’t seem to understand how photos work. (Which seems to reflect an overall level of ignorance with respect to how many things work, from vaccines to this blog.)
===I respect even those who disagree but there is a reason for the exchange of ideas in this country.===
Would you respect someone who argued that the various safety measures on cars (from windshields to bumpers to airbags) don’t work? I wouldn’t. I would think they had no idea how those things work and I certainly wouldn’t “respect” their opinion or the ignorance behind it. Likewise with folks who do not understand how masks and vaccines work. I don’t respect willful ignorance, nor do most of the folks who post here.
- Jibba - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 1:48 pm:
Maybe Illinois isn’t so bad after all.===
I’m hoping a lot more people figure this out as the states continue to differentiate themselves. Maybe places will grow that honor human and civil rights, maintain abortion access, fund their education systems and infrastructure, and have less damage from climate change.
- ArchPundit - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 2:06 pm:
===I respect even those who disagree but there is a reason for the exchange of ideas in this country.
No one minds the exchange of ideas. That doesn’t mean we need to go out and find every dumb idea and give it equal coverage to ideas with actual evidence behind them. Unless you want to put every campus quad preacher on the nightly news?
- Techie - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 2:21 pm:
“That doesn’t mean we need to go out and find every dumb idea and give it equal coverage to ideas with actual evidence behind them.”
Bingo!
- MisterJayEm - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 2:32 pm:
“We don’t need to change their minds, just give consequences to their choices.”
Exactly this.
Exactly.
– MrJM
- MisterJayEm - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 2:34 pm:
“That photo was probably taken before everyone got there.”
And they were probably coming with their secret girlfriends from two towns over.
– MrJM
- Rich Miller - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 2:37 pm:
===from two towns over===
Canada.
- Earnest - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 2:45 pm:
>Canada.
My sister used to date him. Name was “George Glass.”
- MisterJayEm - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 2:52 pm:
“Canada”
Them furin gals are “immigrant super spreaders,” Rich‼
– MrJM
- Concerned in Illinois - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 3:03 pm:
IT DATA GUY: media or no media, there will be more rallies because it is still a way of reaching the people and its called The First Amendment.
There is a also a reason for blogs and discussion, and truth is always revealed. Even if you think someone is factually incorrect, you have the right in this country to say so. That’s your opinion. Most Communist countries dont allow the people to share their views or concerns because the government decides how they should think and believe and any dissent can be punished. There is a reason why so many people want to come to America and that is because we are a FREE COUNTRY.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 3:15 pm:
Concerned in Illinois: Why doesn’t our leadership go after super spreaders coming up from The borders?
Also Concerned in Illinois: There is a reason why so many people want to come to America and that is because we are a FREE COUNTRY.
- Lucky Pierre - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 3:24 pm:
I guess we can disregard that deflection about Fox News being anti vax and anti mask
- Rich Miller - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 3:25 pm:
===deflection about Fox News being anti vax and anti mask===
Their pollster is a professional and corporate does the right thing for workers. It’s the on-air goofs spreading the lies, enabled by corporate, that’s the real problem.
It’s like you don’t even try any more.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 3:26 pm:
=== I guess we can disregard that deflection about Fox News being anti vax and anti mask===
This is like saying “look at how the Tribune reports” but dismissing the damage the Editorial Board did.
- Dotnonymous - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 3:27 pm:
“Even if you think someone is factually incorrect, you have the right in this country to say so. That’s your opinion.” - Concerned in Illinois
Do bear in mind some opinions carry no more weight than two dead flies…but that’s just my opinion.
- Billy Bong - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 3:40 pm:
@Concerned in Illinois
It is a free country.
It is also a democratic country.
That’s why, even though 10 percent of Americans don’t eat meat, and even though they are free to hold rallies at the Capitol, they don’t get to make public policy.
This is also how speed limits work. Sammy Hagar is not in charge, no matter how burdensome he feels it is or how
Passionate he feels about it.
You are 17% of the National electorate.
- IT Data Guy - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 3:54 pm:
== and its called The First Amendment ==
Just stop. No one is trampling on your rights to have a rally. Have all of them you need to make you feel better. It doesn’t change the fact that no sensible person cares about them. FYI - science isn’t opinion. It’s fact. No rally or blog or discussion is going to change that. The majority of us are exhausted with the vocal minority holding us all back.
- Concerned in Illinois - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 4:43 pm:
@BILLY BONG: You are correct. Americans don’t get to make public policy, but all of the elected officials are to listen to their constituents concerns. They work for us. We pay their salaries. Public policy is to benefit the people, not the carrier politicians. The far left don’t follow the science on biology either, so I won’t trust them on virus mandates.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 4:46 pm:
=== Americans don’t get to make public policy, but all of the elected officials are to listen to their constituents concerns. They work for us. We pay their salaries. Public policy is to benefit the people, not the carrier politicians.===
LOL… are you ignoring the polling? The people are speaking. Keep up.
===The far left don’t follow the science on biology either, so I won’t trust them on virus mandates.===
You are arguing with the ignorance of blind political bias.
- Oswego Willy - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 4:47 pm:
===The far left don’t follow the science on biology either, so I won’t trust them on virus mandates.===
Are you a scientist? If you’re not, it’s even more embarrassing to think this. It’s how a child argues.
- New Day - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 5:02 pm:
phenom_anon,
“Doesn’t sound like you hate it. It’s fun to be glib like that until an unvaccinated person infects a kid who isn’t allowed to get the vaccine. Or until it’s your friend or relative who just won’t listen to reason and gets covid while unvaccinated.”
You misunderstand. I have one of those unvaccinated kids and worry daily that he will come home from school sick. But it is the unvaccinated that are doing this to themselves and our society. I am furious with the intentional infliction of disinformation from the former president and the stupidity of his followers that are driving this.
- Billy Bong - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 5:24 pm:
Are you willfully misreading me?
It’s a democracy. Americans get to make public policy.
But you dont get to make policy when you are only 17 percent.
Your problem is not with President Biden, Gov. Pritzker or the other elected officials, its with the 83% of your neighbors and fellow Americans who disagree with you.
- Proud Papa Bear - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 6:24 pm:
“The far left don’t follow the science on biology either”
I’m assuming you’re referring to transgender people. Referring to them is the one time radical conservatives believe they understand science. (They’re wrong there, too).
- Suburban Mom - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 6:43 pm:
===Most Communist countries dont allow the people to share their views or concerns because the government decides how they should think and believe and any dissent can be punished.===
I work in social media, and as you appear not to know this, I’m going to tell you: Most anti-vaccine and anti-mask content on Facebook and other social media outlets either originates from or is heavily signal-boosted by Russian state disinformation campaigns. If you’re posting on Facebook or Twitter and get a bunch of people agreeing with your anti-vax points, it’s NOT because there’s a ton of Illinois citizens who agree with you — it’s because Russian disinformation campaigns are targeting the right wing in the US because they can MAKE AMERICANS LITERALLY KILL THEMSELVES AND EACH OTHER by boosting anti-mask, anti-vax propaganda.
You don’t want to live in a communist country, but you are repeating Russian disinformation that’s designed to hurt America and Americans. People who agree with you are NOT being silenced — they’re being wildly signal-boosted by Russian disinformation operatives, and have persuaded you, and a bunch of other Americans, that it’s safer to LITERALLY RISK DEATH than to get a vaccine. Putin’s intelligence service can’t possibly have imagined that it would be this easy to damage the American economy, kill 700,000 Americans and cause long-term disability in many more, and drive deep political divisions into the American polity. But here we are, with people willingly parroting Russian talking points and rejecting well-understood medical science that the American people wholeheartedly embraced until quite recently.
(I have been helping parents’ Facebook groups in my area root out Russian troll-farm accounts — there are legions of them, some of them that were allowed to quietly age for 10 years. At my workplace we deal with slightly different types of disinformation attacks, but a lot of the modus operandi are the same across types and platforms.)
- Rich Miller - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 7:07 pm:
Proud Papa Bear, the owner of this blog really needs to install a comment “like” button.
- Blue Dog - Monday, Sep 20, 21 @ 7:08 pm:
Proud papa. I bet he’s referring to abortion.
- 17% Solution - Tuesday, Sep 21, 21 @ 7:20 am:
== Proud papa. I bet he’s referring to abortion.==
No he’s talking about vaccines. That’s the subject. Not everyone who is antivax is on the right.
- Biker - Tuesday, Sep 21, 21 @ 9:14 am:
The Russian government sponsored bots are being joined by the Iranian and Chinese government sponsored bots to focus on keeping us in pandemic hell for as long as possible. It’s time to cut them off Facebook/Twitter so they can’t misinform the conversation. I’ve heard the volume of bots is the vast majority of the social media anti vax/mask sewage.