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Thursday, Nov 18, 2021 - Posted by Rich Miller

* I’m feeling more relaxed today. What’s on your mind?

       

42 Comments
  1. - very old soil - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 8:46 am:

    NIU did it again.


  2. - Give Me A Break - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 8:47 am:

    The reality of a truncated session is hitting home. Between LRB deadlines and possible sponsors unsure what they want to carry, time off during the holidays is looking less likely.


  3. - Downstate - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 8:50 am:

    I hate the stress of car problems. Hope yours in on the mend, Rich.


  4. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 8:56 am:

    New day, and good vibes your way, Rich.

    I was reminded by a Hannah Meisel tweet… it’s been a year, today;

    Mike McClain, Anne Pramaggiore, John Hooker, and Jay Doherty all indicted a year ago, today.

    With the splash, the summer shoutout by the feds to help with Madigan, a “hotline”, a million documents, likely hours of tapes, it all came to a peak to indictments… a year ago… today.


  5. - OneMan - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 8:57 am:

    Huskies MAC West Champions after going 0-6 last year with one of the youngest rosters in the BCS 8-3 so far this year.


  6. - Friendly Bob Adams - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:01 am:

    Bright and sunny but just 32 degrees in beautiful DuPage County today. If the powers that be could bump that up to about 45 it would be a terrific day to be out and about.


  7. - 10th Ward - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:04 am:

    just curious when others may jump in the race for that open new Latino leaning congressional seat? the alderman announced this week if others rumored like Omar and Delia are interested they may want to get out there sooner rather than later?


  8. - NonAFSCMEStateEmployeeFromChatham - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:05 am:

    Tragedy yesterday at Springfield’s Lanphier HS on the north end. An 18-year old student was stabbed to death after an incident outside the school yesterday afternoon.

    https://www.sj-r.com/story/news/2021/11/17/lanphier-high-school-students-stabbing-death-injury/8659304002/


  9. - Anyone Remember - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:07 am:

    ===Bright and sunny but just 32 degrees in beautiful DuPage County today.===

    Any Tom Cross sightings on the links?


  10. - BTO2 - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:07 am:

    Feel the pain on vehicle, quick oil change yesterday turned into $858 in additional repairs.

    Congrats to Deere employee’s/Company.


  11. - Ghost of the mezzanine pressroom - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:13 am:

    I hear it’s Charlie Wheeler’s 80th birthday. Hope he has a banned punctuation-worthy day.


  12. - Kate - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:19 am:

    Will CRT finally give the Republicans an issue that trumps the pro-choice issue in the suburbs and parts of the City of Chicago?


  13. - Cheryl44 - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:21 am:

    Why are they playing football at Wrigley Field this weekend?


  14. - Amalia - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:21 am:

    CRT is not taught K-12. it’s not. if you are trying to scare history out of history, stop.


  15. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:24 am:

    ===pro-choice issue===

    National polling on abortion isn’t helpful to Illinois Republicans, add two SCOTUS cases that will have decisions in 2022, gonna be tough. “Republicans are dangerous to women’s health” will be in mailboxes in Illinois.


  16. - Arsenal - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:28 am:

    ==Will CRT finally give the Republicans an issue that trumps the pro-choice issue in the suburbs and parts of the City of Chicago? ==

    Probably not. Remember, Youngkin’s ads weren’t focused on CRT, but on giving teachers raises, increasing the education budget, and McAuliffe’s bone-headed anti-parent gaffe. So it’s not really CRT.

    Now, this does show that there’s something there if Republicans can get to Dems’ left on education. But…c’mon. In IL, with IFT and IEA, If Republicans start talking about teachers’ raises, Dems are going to say “great, and in fact, let’s double it.”


  17. - PublicServant - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:31 am:

    === Why are they playing football at Wrigley Field this weekend? ===

    They want to see a win by a Chicago area team every once in a while.


  18. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:32 am:

    Odds are… if you’re “swayed” by CRT… it’s probably because you don’t want to say out loud it’s about race for you… and you weren’t voting for Dems anyway.

    Since Illinois doesn’t teach CRT it’s a red herring… but abortion rights that will be under SCOTUS review will be a real thing.


  19. - Kate - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:46 am:

    ==it’s about race for you==

    I agree generally with this notion but Bill Maher seems to be analyzing and discussing the issue in a way that could relate to groups of voters that denounce racism.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bill-maher-trashes-critical-race-theory-says-racism-is-not-essence-of-america/ar-AAQQSKR


  20. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:48 am:

    === but Bill Maher===

    Annnnnd…. You should really stick to Facebook.

    Odds are… if you’re “swayed” by CRT… it’s probably because you don’t want to say out loud it’s about race for you… and you weren’t voting for Dems anyway.


  21. - NonAFSCMEStateEmployeeFromChatham - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 9:49 am:

    ==They want to see a win by a Chicago area team every once in a while.==

    And don’t forget that Northwestern is “Chicago’s Big Ten Team.”


  22. - Roman - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 10:02 am:

    Willy is right. If the Supreme Court overturns Roe in June, CRT will be overshadowed. Maybe it won’t be as big of a deal here in Illinois, given the expansion of abortion rights the legislature has passed in recent years. But many states still have trigger laws on the books that will make abortion illegal if Roe is repealed. This will be a big deal in states with sizable suburban populations like Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona and Texas. Might help save the Dems from a midterm disaster.


  23. - Leslie K - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 10:04 am:

    Very glad today is off to a better start for you, Rich. Some days just scream for a do-over.

    As to the poster citing Bill Maher, I will just second OW:

    ==Annnnnd…. You should really stick to Facebook==


  24. - Kate - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 10:06 am:

    OW - I was hoping to hear that Maher might be overreacting to the Youngkin win in Virginia.


  25. - Oswego Willy - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 10:10 am:

    === I was hoping to hear that Maher might be overreacting to the Youngkin win in Virginia.===

    I’m sure on Facebook you could find that.

    A year in politics is an eternity. The long term ramifications and short term politics to the Texas and Mississippi cases that SCOTUS will hear and rule on will have a longer shelf life than any Bill Maher take.


  26. - Lt Guv - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 10:12 am:

    This Huskies heart is bursting with pride. Great to see the growth of both the very young players and the staff. Still quite a bit of room to keep on growing as well.


  27. - DuPage - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 10:12 am:

    Rivian is making the news all around the world. I hope they are successful long term, some people are concerned they will be facing fierce competition in a couple of years.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8u_T9TOm9E&list=PLEmTPQdwS4s8-gx4z4iE6aJSHhhtxPgR2&index=6


  28. - NonAFSCMEStateEmployeeFromChatham - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 10:15 am:

    Welcome to Springfield, a place that likes to flush TIF money down the toilet. This time for a rooftop bar for Floyd’s Thirst Parlor downtown.

    https://www.sj-r.com/story/news/2021/11/17/downtown-springfield-tavern-floyds-thirst-parlor-get-rooftop-bar-full-kitchen/8646109002/

    Why can’t the city leaders cut out the fluff and aggressively seek out and try to poach real jobs (e.g., factories, intermodal) which could employ several hundreds of people at least? That would be a much better use of TIF funds than a bar downtown.


  29. - 14th ward - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 10:27 am:

    Maybe it’s just me, but I am stunned that Anna Valencia is not getting more endorsements. Not that endorsements are the holy grail, but she has been there since 2017. Opinions anyone?.


  30. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 10:39 am:

    ===Why can’t the city leaders cut out the fluff and aggressively seek out and try to poach real jobs===

    One way to attract jobs is to have a vibrant and interesting nightlife. Springfield has let itself slide. Not endorsing this project, just saying. Move the UIS campus near downtown and watch what happens.


  31. - City remap vortex - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 10:42 am:

    SOS office race seems to be a two-person contest so far. I thought Anna Valencia would wrestle some endorsements away from Alexi since she has been in office since 2017 locally?.


  32. - Northsider - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 11:00 am:

    == Move the UIS campus near downtown and watch what happens. ==

    This is why Madison, Wis., thrives. UW-Madison is part of the downtown; that synergy was unbeatable when I was there (in a previous century) and remains so.


  33. - Marcus - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 11:27 am:

    As a Veteran and State employee I was disappointed that our Governor and some Agency Directors never sent out an email on Veteran’s day. There are allot of state employees that are Veterans or currently serving in the National Guard. I wonder what the reason was, I have never seen that during the 15 years working for the state. Shame on them.


  34. - Blue Dog - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 11:40 am:

    Taking three grandkids deer hunting this weekend. Pray for me….


  35. - obiter dictum - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 12:05 pm:

    hawks have won four in a row. Ok, against other weak teams, but you play the teams on the schedule. Had to watch the highlights. the “west coast swing” games start too late for me. DeBrincat had the Gordie Howe hat trick. a goal, an assist and a fight.


  36. - Lefty Lefty - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 12:11 pm:

    RE: Urban college campuses-

    As a former Badger myself with 2 kids at a major urban university on the east coast, I heartily endorse Mssrs. Miller’s and Northsider’s stance.

    We try to get to a Badger football game every fall. Last weekend we walked from the Capitol Square (center of government and business), down State Street (center of downtown retail), and across campus to Camp Randall Stadium to observe a sound thrashing of Chicago’s Big Ten team. A great day with all the amenities and no cars, taxis, or ride shares.


  37. - NonAFSCMEStateEmployeeFromChatham - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 12:20 pm:

    Scott Reeder has his take on “Being Blago” in today’s Illinois Times:

    https://www.illinoistimes.com/springfield/rod-blagojevich-is-not-a-changed-man/Content?oid=14364356


  38. - Huh? - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 1:12 pm:

    “They want to see a win by a Chicago area team every once in a while.”

    Must not be talking about the Bears or Northwestern. NU is going to get smoked by Purdue.


  39. - Huh? - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 1:17 pm:

    “Taking three grandkids deer hunting this weekend.”

    How fun. Hope one of them shots the big buck. Make them field dress and skin the deer. My nephew treasures the jack knife I gave him to field dress his first deer.


  40. - Last Bull Moose - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 1:54 pm:

    Hope you are not dealing with three novice hunters. Dress warmly.


  41. - NonAFSCMEStateEmployeeFromChatham - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 2:23 pm:

    ==Must not be talking about the Bears or Northwestern. ==

    Most likely next Thursday (Thanksgiving) will be the only remaining Bears win this season, if they’re lucky. Even though it’s the Lions.


  42. - Amalia - Thursday, Nov 18, 21 @ 3:02 pm:

    A win from a Chicago team at Wrigley? this weekend? not likely.


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