Due to population decline, Carbondale will be voting on Home Rule status in November. The results of losing it would be catastrophic for the city.
My main issue is the constitutionally required phrasing of the ballot question. The question is roughly “shall the city of Carbondale cease to be.”
I am very concerned that the structure of the question, an affirmative vote taking away city powers, may confuse voters and potentially cause unintended but crippling harm to the city.
==Realized that sounded like dissolving the city==
thanks for that clarification. Having watched the new city of Cahokia Heights (which is actually in the lowlands) form, I wasn’t sure what was going on down farther south. So just a vote whether to retain home rule or not.
“I am very concerned that the structure of the question”
That seems to be the proper and typical language - it has been used by other cities facing the same issue …
“Cities don’t automatically lose home rule when they drop below 25,000 residents, but they must ask their residents to vote whether to remain home rule with a specific question: “Shall the entity cease to be home rule?”
At least it is somewhat cooler and less humid here than in the Carolinas where I have been this past week.
Gave the raised flower garden a good soak last night. A/C keeping the house cool,but it was over 100° in the garage yesterday afternoon. Going to have to work at night out there.
Caught a later train yesterday, have to say my suburban Metra station looked the closest it has to the before times. Still plenty of spaces but more like the week between Christmas and New Years and less like the Friday after Thanksgiving.
==Due to population decline, Carbondale will be voting on Home Rule status in November.==
Freeport, too.
If the results would be catastrophic, a muni is probably doing it wrong.
Where I live, home rule + council-manager gov = recipe for corruption. We’ve had only one-term mayors for the last several cycles, but it’s really the unelected managers everybody’s mad at.
Shibboleth - I’d be more concerned about southern Illinois’s biggest city now having less than 25,000 people. What does that say for the State of Illinois?
Oh, I forgot. According to the Democrats we are just doing fine with our booming population that is basically stagnant while our peers had considerable growth.
Hopefully at this rate the Cubs will be on pace to lose at least 100 games. And perhaps breaking a record (if one exists) for most double digit losses in a season.
Still wondering about the ‘requires insulin’ caveat on the new law requiring insurance coverage of continuous glucose meters. That’s a really vague couple of words. Is the once daily long acting insulin patient eligible or only the patients who take the kind that require numerous daily injections. Medicare only currently pays for CGMs for patients in the latter category.
Just received a phone poll asking who I would vote for in the Davis/Miller race. Funny thing is that I do not live in that district. When I explained that I am not a resident of that district to the pollster, he said that it didn’t matter. Other odd thing about that poll is that it sounded like there was a rooster in the background. Not sure what to think after that phone call.
- Proud Papa Bear - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 6:35 pm:
“What does that say for the State of Illinois?”
It says a lot more about deep red southern Illinois.
- Levois J - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 8:42 am:
How’s everyone managing this heatwave?
- PublicServant - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 8:43 am:
Watering early, and AC.
- Shibboleth - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 8:45 am:
Due to population decline, Carbondale will be voting on Home Rule status in November. The results of losing it would be catastrophic for the city.
My main issue is the constitutionally required phrasing of the ballot question. The question is roughly “shall the city of Carbondale cease to be.”
I am very concerned that the structure of the question, an affirmative vote taking away city powers, may confuse voters and potentially cause unintended but crippling harm to the city.
- Shibboleth - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 8:46 am:
*cease to be a home rule community.
Realized that sounded like dissolving the city.
- Give Me A Break - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 8:49 am:
Picked a bad year to plant 15 fruit and flowering trees. Trying to keep them alive during this heatwave is fun. Water, water then water so more.
- Grandson of Man - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 8:51 am:
“JB must not be doing well in this heat. Let’s make sure “Big Boy” doesn’t melt”
No one is melting faster right now than the Irvin campaign.
- Vote Quimby - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 8:51 am:
==Realized that sounded like dissolving the city==
thanks for that clarification. Having watched the new city of Cahokia Heights (which is actually in the lowlands) form, I wasn’t sure what was going on down farther south. So just a vote whether to retain home rule or not.
- Pawar Lost - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 8:53 am:
Will Kim Foxx resign?
- Vote Quimby - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 8:53 am:
=Realized that sounded like dissolving the city.=
Thanks for the clarification… after the Cahokia Heights merger I wasn’t sure if they were combining cities down there as well.
- Cool Papa Bell - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:02 am:
Pool has another leak in the liner. Not looking forward to having to fill it again.
- BigLou - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:06 am:
I’ve heard people are seeing Lisa Madigan signs on the north side of the city, has anyone seen them?
- 47th Ward - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:10 am:
===seeing Lisa Madigan signs===
Extreme heat does strange things to some people.
- JS Mill - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:11 am:
=JB must not be doing well in this heat. Let’s make sure “Big Boy” doesn’t melt=
Yeah because trump is so fit and durable with those strong hands of his.
I’ll put my money on our governor any day.
- Dog Lover - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:11 am:
It’s good weather to take the top of the Jeep and cruise. That’s in the weekend plans.
- Donnie Elgin - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:13 am:
“I am very concerned that the structure of the question”
That seems to be the proper and typical language - it has been used by other cities facing the same issue …
“Cities don’t automatically lose home rule when they drop below 25,000 residents, but they must ask their residents to vote whether to remain home rule with a specific question: “Shall the entity cease to be home rule?”
https://www.bnd.com/news/local/article236380488.html
- RNUG - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:16 am:
== How’s everyone managing this heatwave ==
At least it is somewhat cooler and less humid here than in the Carolinas where I have been this past week.
Gave the raised flower garden a good soak last night. A/C keeping the house cool,but it was over 100° in the garage yesterday afternoon. Going to have to work at night out there.
- PublicServant - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:35 am:
=== I’ve heard people are seeing Lisa Madigan signs on the north side of the city ===
Nah, but a lot of signs for Republican FOP candidates pretending to be democrats.
- OneMan - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:42 am:
== Will Kim Foxx resign? ==
Nope
Caught a later train yesterday, have to say my suburban Metra station looked the closest it has to the before times. Still plenty of spaces but more like the week between Christmas and New Years and less like the Friday after Thanksgiving.
- Lurker - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:44 am:
So a guy calls himself Anon and dies a JB fat joke everyday and no one has ever laughed. Odd life to live.
- Lurker - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:44 am:
*does
- yinn - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:47 am:
==Due to population decline, Carbondale will be voting on Home Rule status in November.==
Freeport, too.
If the results would be catastrophic, a muni is probably doing it wrong.
Where I live, home rule + council-manager gov = recipe for corruption. We’ve had only one-term mayors for the last several cycles, but it’s really the unelected managers everybody’s mad at.
- Shanna - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 9:49 am:
Hi Rich,
Richard Irvin was on WVON. I didn’t hear it. From what I hear on Perri’s show it was not received very well at all. Have you heard any feedback?
- Just Me 2 - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 10:49 am:
Shibboleth - I’d be more concerned about southern Illinois’s biggest city now having less than 25,000 people. What does that say for the State of Illinois?
Oh, I forgot. According to the Democrats we are just doing fine with our booming population that is basically stagnant while our peers had considerable growth.
- Skeptic - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 11:06 am:
“Pool has another leak in the liner.” I have a can of Flex-Seal you can have if you want.
- Just Sayin - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 12:09 pm:
Hopefully at this rate the Cubs will be on pace to lose at least 100 games. And perhaps breaking a record (if one exists) for most double digit losses in a season.
- thoughts matter - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 1:48 pm:
Still wondering about the ‘requires insulin’ caveat on the new law requiring insurance coverage of continuous glucose meters. That’s a really vague couple of words. Is the once daily long acting insulin patient eligible or only the patients who take the kind that require numerous daily injections. Medicare only currently pays for CGMs for patients in the latter category.
- Carbondale Chronicle - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 4:28 pm:
Just received a phone poll asking who I would vote for in the Davis/Miller race. Funny thing is that I do not live in that district. When I explained that I am not a resident of that district to the pollster, he said that it didn’t matter. Other odd thing about that poll is that it sounded like there was a rooster in the background. Not sure what to think after that phone call.
- Proud Papa Bear - Thursday, Jun 16, 22 @ 6:35 pm:
“What does that say for the State of Illinois?”
It says a lot more about deep red southern Illinois.