With the KS pro-choice referendum results last night, it’s in the IL GOP’s best interest to have Mr. Bailey drop out ASAP. Stop the bleeding.
- Proud Papa Bear - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:40 am:
Apparently I’ve been living in a cave for the past decade. I just discovered Shameless and am binge-watching it. While I didn’t grow up in Chicago, it’s only a slight exaggeration of what my Irish Catholic Sout’ Sider friends described about their upbringing.
Darren Bailey “represents” 56% plus of the voting ILGOP
Bailey is going nowhere, the party imploding as it’s constituted is good for the state and frankly the ILGOP, as Chairman Tracy embraces the likes of Mary Miller, insurrection apologists, conspiracy theorists, and racist thinkers…
… and think on this;
Only Jim Durkin spoke up against Bailey’s words with a sickening comparison to abortion and the Holocaust.
Bailey shouldn’t and won’t resign, Bailey is the party. Let that party face the voters.
==it’s in the IL GOP’s best interest to have Mr. Bailey drop out ASAP==
But he won’t, and no one can make him. And anyway, someone who has to stand up a whole campaign from scratch, starting in August, with over half the party now spitting blood at them, won’t really do any better.
That being said, yes, absolutely, the KS result should be a klaxon going off for ILGOP. It’s just that they don’t really have any tools to deal with it.
- Give Me A Break - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:46 am:
The Baileys of the GOP, both state and national, may have caught the car they have been chasing, they are about to find out sometimes you probably bight off more than you can chew.
+1, same goes for the Pete Meijer race. Moderate, anti-Trump Republicans aren’t welcome in that party any more, so they should do what moderate, anti-Trump voters did: become Democrats.
I’ve long thought that Bailey would get the nomination, lose by less than Rauner, and use that loss to argue that the results show a far-right candidate/party is needed for the ILGOP to return to power.
Turns out, even in Kansas people are Pro Roe. Run on that.
- Long time Independent - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:01 am:
-OW- spot on as usual but let’s not forget that Durkin was all in on the Irvin debacle that brought us to this point. He’s also all over the move to fill every possible open race for the R’s in November to help bring voters out for Bailey. The Illinois GOP is a disgrace and a disaster and should be gutted from top to bottom with party leaders.
The abortion policy aspect changes the playing field, plus Bailey’s own words on abortion are likely not going to help, otherwise Bailey would’ve merely said “I stand by every word”. Bailey didn’t.
Bailey may not be the trend of an overall Illinois voter’s choice, but state after state after state the Trumpkin GOP has candidates like Bailey littering fall GOP tickets
Yes it is. He could have built consensus instead he chose arrogance. He screwed every Republican candidate and the party itself by going it alone. He knew exactly where the party was and the Irvin baggage and the likelihood that others would get involved. If he didn’t it’s malpractice. If he did it’s a fraud This post likely blocked because it goes against Mike Z but it’s fine to start telling the truth/- not making excuses
And as you want to blame Z, think on this too… where o where were the GOPers yesterday to *condemn* Bailey’s Holocaust words?
Where?
Where were they?
That’s Z’s fault too, I suppose?
For all I know, if Z even knows of me, he might think a shag bag chock full of used golf balls is smarter than me… it’s probable even… and now you have me defending Z?
I’d look deep at what and who this current ILGOP is and means. There 56% plus that are Bailey folks, and willing to vote that way, in its ranks.
His candidate finished 3rd. While he might bear some responsibility for Richard Irvin’s loss, he is in no way responsible for Darren Bailey winning. That’s entirely on the voters.
Concensus is 56% plus voters in a 6-way race supporting ONE candidate.
Keep up, please.
(Tips cap to - Long time Independent -)
- Larry Bowa Jr. - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:17 am:
“Nice work Mike Z. All of this his his fault.”
It’s incredible the lengths people will go to in order to make excuses for the grown men and women who vote in republican primaries. How many times do republican voters have to demonstrate that they want ethno-nationalist fascist politics from their politicians before we come to terms with this fact?
= Only Jim Durkin spoke up against Bailey’s words =
The silence is deafening.
I truly hoped that this morning would bring more condemnation of Bailey’s vile remarks, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that that is not the case.
- TheInvisibleMan - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:20 am:
The proponents of the KS pro-life ballot question are taking the exact same approach this morning as many in the ILGOP did after our primary results, in that they are blaming democrats for fooling a huge number of republicans into voting for a certain thing.
I’m not sure if insulting the intelligence of your voters is a good way to motivate your voters to show up in the General Election in November.
I basically agree that Bailey *is* the Republican Party right now, but I can’t help wondering what woulda happened if the Griffin Gang had gotten behind someone who wasn’t such an obvious phony, or if they’d written up a campaign strategy that didn’t basically steer into all of his biggest problems.
Not really when you think about it. The leader of the party has made clear that only losers apologize. It’s a sign of weakness. And for Bailey there seems to be more of an effort to keep his existing supporters than to attract new ones. He doesn’t know how to broaden his appeal because he’s never had to.
- Long time Independent - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:30 am:
So here’s another Dilemma caused by Proft. He helped big time getting Bailey over the top to payback the State GOP for going against his favorite far right candidate Ives. Now that Bailey has stepped on a pile of manure what does he do with his new poster child Keith Pekau? As of yesterday that race is also all but done with Casten with a 83% chance of winning.
When all the dust settles the Dems win big in Illinois and Proft gets 4 more years on the radio and Uihlien money to tell everyone what’s wrong in Illinois. JMO but Proft is getting exactly what he wanted in Illinois
==While I didn’t grow up in Chicago, (’Shameless is) only a slight exaggeration of what my Irish Catholic Sout’ Sider friends described about their upbringing. ==
Watching ‘Shameless’ — especially early seasons — remains a guilty pleasure and how it is mostly spot on with its portrayal of Chicago neighborhood life and family dynamics.
- Gruntled University Employee - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:44 am:
I just love all of the pearl clutching and great big ol crocodile tears over the Dems “meddling” in the GQP primary. The GQP is just embarrassed that they didn’t think of it first.
==The GQP is just embarrassed that they didn’t think of it first.==
Um, don’t you remember Nixon’s Dirty Tricks against most of the ‘72 Democratic presidential candidates (especially Ed Muskie). Eventually culminating in Watergate.
- Hot Taeks - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:36 am:
With the KS pro-choice referendum results last night, it’s in the IL GOP’s best interest to have Mr. Bailey drop out ASAP. Stop the bleeding.
- Proud Papa Bear - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:40 am:
Apparently I’ve been living in a cave for the past decade. I just discovered Shameless and am binge-watching it. While I didn’t grow up in Chicago, it’s only a slight exaggeration of what my Irish Catholic Sout’ Sider friends described about their upbringing.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:41 am:
===Mr. Bailey drop out===
Darren Bailey “represents” 56% plus of the voting ILGOP
Bailey is going nowhere, the party imploding as it’s constituted is good for the state and frankly the ILGOP, as Chairman Tracy embraces the likes of Mary Miller, insurrection apologists, conspiracy theorists, and racist thinkers…
… and think on this;
Only Jim Durkin spoke up against Bailey’s words with a sickening comparison to abortion and the Holocaust.
Bailey shouldn’t and won’t resign, Bailey is the party. Let that party face the voters.
- Arsenal - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:45 am:
==it’s in the IL GOP’s best interest to have Mr. Bailey drop out ASAP==
But he won’t, and no one can make him. And anyway, someone who has to stand up a whole campaign from scratch, starting in August, with over half the party now spitting blood at them, won’t really do any better.
That being said, yes, absolutely, the KS result should be a klaxon going off for ILGOP. It’s just that they don’t really have any tools to deal with it.
- Give Me A Break - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:46 am:
The Baileys of the GOP, both state and national, may have caught the car they have been chasing, they are about to find out sometimes you probably bight off more than you can chew.
- XonXoff - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:48 am:
// Bailey shouldn’t and won’t resign, Bailey is the party. Let that party face the voters. //
+1
- Grandson of Man - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:49 am:
It appears Chicago crisis assistance teams are working very well at this early stage, no arrests or uses of force.
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/chicago/news/chicago-crisis-response-team-sees-early-success-responding-to-mental-health-calls/
The dog sure caught the car last night in red Kansas (h/t Rich).
- reddevil1 - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:50 am:
The thing of it is…nationally the Bailey types will consistently get support from areas, that will make it very hard for them to jsut “disappear”
- vern - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:51 am:
=== Let that party face the voters ===
+1, same goes for the Pete Meijer race. Moderate, anti-Trump Republicans aren’t welcome in that party any more, so they should do what moderate, anti-Trump voters did: become Democrats.
- SIUEalum - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:55 am:
I’ve long thought that Bailey would get the nomination, lose by less than Rauner, and use that loss to argue that the results show a far-right candidate/party is needed for the ILGOP to return to power.
- JS Mill - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:58 am:
=Only Jim Durkin spoke up against Bailey’s words with a sickening comparison to abortion and the Holocaust.=
This is further proof that the ilgop is completely lost.
- Watchful eye - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:58 am:
Nice work Mike Z. All of this his his fault.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 9:59 am:
===Nice work Mike Z. All of this his his fault.===
Inherently untrue.
It’s not Mike Z’s fault that 56% of ILGOP voters support Bailey.
Nope.
- Amalia - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:01 am:
Turns out, even in Kansas people are Pro Roe. Run on that.
- Long time Independent - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:01 am:
-OW- spot on as usual but let’s not forget that Durkin was all in on the Irvin debacle that brought us to this point. He’s also all over the move to fill every possible open race for the R’s in November to help bring voters out for Bailey. The Illinois GOP is a disgrace and a disaster and should be gutted from top to bottom with party leaders.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:04 am:
===lose by less than Rauner===
The abortion policy aspect changes the playing field, plus Bailey’s own words on abortion are likely not going to help, otherwise Bailey would’ve merely said “I stand by every word”. Bailey didn’t.
Bailey may not be the trend of an overall Illinois voter’s choice, but state after state after state the Trumpkin GOP has candidates like Bailey littering fall GOP tickets
- Watchful eye - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:05 am:
Yes it is. He could have built consensus instead he chose arrogance. He screwed every Republican candidate and the party itself by going it alone. He knew exactly where the party was and the Irvin baggage and the likelihood that others would get involved. If he didn’t it’s malpractice. If he did it’s a fraud This post likely blocked because it goes against Mike Z but it’s fine to start telling the truth/- not making excuses
- XonXoff - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:05 am:
Bailey wanted attention and he’s got it.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:14 am:
===had no money available===
Blair Hull would like to have a word.
And as you want to blame Z, think on this too… where o where were the GOPers yesterday to *condemn* Bailey’s Holocaust words?
Where?
Where were they?
That’s Z’s fault too, I suppose?
For all I know, if Z even knows of me, he might think a shag bag chock full of used golf balls is smarter than me… it’s probable even… and now you have me defending Z?
I’d look deep at what and who this current ILGOP is and means. There 56% plus that are Bailey folks, and willing to vote that way, in its ranks.
- Pundent - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:16 am:
=Nice work Mike Z. All of this his his fault.=
His candidate finished 3rd. While he might bear some responsibility for Richard Irvin’s loss, he is in no way responsible for Darren Bailey winning. That’s entirely on the voters.
- Oswego Willy - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:17 am:
===built consensus===
Concensus is 56% plus voters in a 6-way race supporting ONE candidate.
Keep up, please.
(Tips cap to - Long time Independent -)
- Larry Bowa Jr. - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:17 am:
“Nice work Mike Z. All of this his his fault.”
It’s incredible the lengths people will go to in order to make excuses for the grown men and women who vote in republican primaries. How many times do republican voters have to demonstrate that they want ethno-nationalist fascist politics from their politicians before we come to terms with this fact?
- JoanP - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:17 am:
= Only Jim Durkin spoke up against Bailey’s words =
The silence is deafening.
I truly hoped that this morning would bring more condemnation of Bailey’s vile remarks, but I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that that is not the case.
- TheInvisibleMan - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:20 am:
The proponents of the KS pro-life ballot question are taking the exact same approach this morning as many in the ILGOP did after our primary results, in that they are blaming democrats for fooling a huge number of republicans into voting for a certain thing.
I’m not sure if insulting the intelligence of your voters is a good way to motivate your voters to show up in the General Election in November.
- Arsenal - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:25 am:
I basically agree that Bailey *is* the Republican Party right now, but I can’t help wondering what woulda happened if the Griffin Gang had gotten behind someone who wasn’t such an obvious phony, or if they’d written up a campaign strategy that didn’t basically steer into all of his biggest problems.
- JoanP - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:28 am:
= they are blaming democrats for fooling a huge number of republicans into voting for a certain thing. =
Considering the Republican-backed attempts to mislead the voters there, they have a lot of nerve.
- Pundent - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:28 am:
=The silence is deafening.=
Not really when you think about it. The leader of the party has made clear that only losers apologize. It’s a sign of weakness. And for Bailey there seems to be more of an effort to keep his existing supporters than to attract new ones. He doesn’t know how to broaden his appeal because he’s never had to.
- Long time Independent - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:30 am:
So here’s another Dilemma caused by Proft. He helped big time getting Bailey over the top to payback the State GOP for going against his favorite far right candidate Ives. Now that Bailey has stepped on a pile of manure what does he do with his new poster child Keith Pekau? As of yesterday that race is also all but done with Casten with a 83% chance of winning.
When all the dust settles the Dems win big in Illinois and Proft gets 4 more years on the radio and Uihlien money to tell everyone what’s wrong in Illinois. JMO but Proft is getting exactly what he wanted in Illinois
- jackmac - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:31 am:
==While I didn’t grow up in Chicago, (’Shameless is) only a slight exaggeration of what my Irish Catholic Sout’ Sider friends described about their upbringing. ==
Watching ‘Shameless’ — especially early seasons — remains a guilty pleasure and how it is mostly spot on with its portrayal of Chicago neighborhood life and family dynamics.
- Gruntled University Employee - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 10:44 am:
I just love all of the pearl clutching and great big ol crocodile tears over the Dems “meddling” in the GQP primary. The GQP is just embarrassed that they didn’t think of it first.
- Blue Dog - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 11:01 am:
fortunate I have been to listen to both Jack Buck and Vin Scully.
- Just Sayin - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 12:23 pm:
==The GQP is just embarrassed that they didn’t think of it first.==
Um, don’t you remember Nixon’s Dirty Tricks against most of the ‘72 Democratic presidential candidates (especially Ed Muskie). Eventually culminating in Watergate.
- Amalia - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 2:15 pm:
oh sure, Sox score in the first inning and now rain delay….
- G'Kar - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 7:30 pm:
Chicago dog gets covered, but not with ketchup, by the NYT.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/21/dining/chicago-hot-dog.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DKDmwbiOgUBYmG9ADGZatobtQ0mjScWJpNN7BpROB3yqUXGX1RfDSSg8nOnoUZcWJyoJivX2gy0tWUDbo1qDO3ZSziJL0mgeDntB7DYGTvDLjVgiBwcQxg8pRlJgu6yDdfkPe-Z-1229J_2f4iAZBoF3xXNGTR4a6eW1gpM86Gbxrc9gA8R-hfPDjRltWY4L4BGx5AXROEFDgspDZht64PfY8fL639LBU_ecrhgL93C2VgL4ihA5dZVJF8bg0w-ePMPPS76ec9081L&smid=url-share
- Amalia - Wednesday, Aug 3, 22 @ 7:40 pm:
Sox win and Abreu seems back on track.