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Friday, Feb 24, 2023 - Posted by Isabel Miller

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  1. - John Lopez - Friday, Feb 24, 23 @ 7:48 am:

    Kane County Sheriff Ron Hain (D) made the headlines as I knew it would when he spoke out at the Kane County Board’s Legislative Committee meeting Wednesday. While Kane County State’s Attorney Jamie Mosser (D) had a seat at the table on the trailer bill of the SAFE-T Act last year, LEOs beginning with the sheriff’s did not.

    Exacerbated by the Assault Weapons Ban, hopefully Springfield Democrats take notice.


  2. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Feb 24, 23 @ 8:05 am:

    ===‘Embarrassed to have a D next to my name’: Kane sheriff faults fellow Democrats over weapons ban===

    Would the Sheriff want to be associated with a party that welcome racist thinkers, insurrection apologists, and conspiracy theorists?

    Here’s the thing, for me…

    You can’t frame the assault weapons ban about “rights” or law, and then have a harsh partisan take towards what you feel the legal is.

    As a sheriff, what, are there “Democrat” laws as FoxNews wants to push, or even “Republican” laws… “you know, freedoms, ‘Merica, strict interpretation of the Constitution”?

    I wonder if the sheriff will be embarrassed if, sadly… and tragically inevitably, a mass shooting occurs yet again?

    The partisan “embarrassment” seems to be the political cover type lingo that allows one to “continue” to be a “D” but be a champion of some odd think to assault weapons?


  3. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Feb 24, 23 @ 8:28 am:

    ===hopefully Springfield Democrats take notice.===

    Take notice of what?

    Polling concerns in assault weapon bans favor Dem positions.

    You wanna make it political, well, between banning abortions and wanting no assault bans, those ain’t winning partisan points.


  4. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Feb 24, 23 @ 8:32 am:

    If the Board of Elections seemingly let Proft off the hook with missing tens of thousands of dollars, what exactly should I expect with an “investigation” where Proft made hundreds of thousands and now lives in Florida?

    How far will this investigation go in its findings, and if, and only if, Proft is found “breaking” the rules, what will that mean?


  5. - John Lopez - Friday, Feb 24, 23 @ 10:33 am:

    === Take notice of what? Polling concerns in assault weapon bans favor Dem positions. ===

    Nothing political about enforcing the law. When Sheriff Hain first made his position known last month, the 4 Democrat state representatives with districts partially in Kane County responded, and included this excerpt:

    “This bipartisan law is the product of hundreds of hours of negotiations and advocacy from across our shared community, including with the Illinois State Police, the Illinois Association of Police Chiefs, and the Illinois Association of Sheriffs. Law enforcement was given a seat at the negotiating table and several of their changes were incorporated into the final bill.”

    The Illinois Association of Sheriffs did not agree with the final product.

    Most IL sheriffs, when issuing their press releases, used the Sheriffs Association boilerplate. Not Sheriff Hain. He brought up his specific concerns which HB5471 didn’t, from his standpoint, address.

    Most notably gun violence and “black market cannabis trafficking”.

    Nothing Republican or Democrat, just a LEO pointing out the truth.


  6. - Rich Miller - Friday, Feb 24, 23 @ 11:09 am:

    ===The Illinois Association of Sheriffs did not agree with the final product===

    And?


  7. - Big Dipper - Friday, Feb 24, 23 @ 11:09 am:

    ==the sheriff’s did not.==

    When many sheriffs suffer the delusion that they are the highest authority in their county I would exclude them as well.


  8. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Feb 24, 23 @ 11:15 am:

    ===The Illinois Association of Sheriffs did not agree with the final product===

    It won’t help in the polling where…

    …voters don’t do nuance and a Dem sheriff is embarrassed by the D next to his name.

    You have all these “in the weeds” ideas, and in a discussion that’s interesting to the nuance, but to the idea you want it to matter in the *politics*, and it’s the politics because of the party ID here and your want to ignore the framing, the Sheriff’s choice to be embarrassed about a weapons ban bill, and making it because of party ID, that’s the “simple”, and what I see/saw as I did.

    You want it to be… “ just a LEO pointing out the truth.”

    The headline talks about in party context.

    Why.

    Nuance


  9. - John Lopez - Friday, Feb 24, 23 @ 11:35 am:

    === voters don’t do nuance and a Dem sheriff is embarrassed by the D next to his name ===

    Your “nuance” reference is a strawman, and polling reference equally useless, given. IL sheriffs aren’t up for election until 2026.

    Having voted for Sheriff Hain last year, he’s a good one (I gave him the thumbs up after his speech on Wednesday as he was leaving the board room).

    But if you want to go there, most sheriffs are usually popular, and popular sheriffs usually win, like the new Republican governor of Nevada, who flipped the statehouse last year as the popular Clark County sheriff.


  10. - Oswego Willy - Friday, Feb 24, 23 @ 12:01 pm:

    === Your “nuance” reference is a strawman, and polling reference equally useless, given.===

    (Sigh)

    It’s actually not, “given” polling has assault bans as favorable, and this Sheriff makes a point to party ID on this, bucking the party and the polling.

    Sheriffs, win, lose, it’s not about *their* race or races, but about next elections where the Safe-T Act will be “on the ballot”, along with “abortion” (abortion will be in the ballot until the GOP changes its own course or gets bailed out by an abortion bill that becomes law)

    === Having voted for Sheriff Hain last year, he’s a good one (I gave him the thumbs up after his speech on Wednesday as he was leaving the board room).===

    Wholly irrelevant.

    === But if you want to go there, most sheriffs are usually popular, and popular sheriffs usually win, like the new Republican governor of Nevada,===

    Also irrelevant to this discussion unless the Nevada governor weighed in as an Illinois Sheriff on the Safe-T act.

    Some might call that a straw man.

    Physician, heal thyself.

    The headline is the political takeaway, the nuance, even you thinking “if I can vote for…” to not supporting an assault ban is why the Dem legislators weighed in as *they* did. You missed that.


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