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Monday, Aug 14, 2023 - Posted by Isabel Miller

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17 Comments
  1. - Donnie Elgin - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 8:27 am:

    “gun marketing liability law”

    JB and the Dem legislature doing their best to limit free speech. Pregnancy resource centers and now firearms.


  2. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 8:56 am:

    ===Pregnancy resource centers and now firearms.===

    Dunno if you think these are good political takes…

    “Republicans are dangerous to women’s health and see no restrictions on assault weapons as good for America.”

    If Republicans thought these were winning platforms, they’d openly and loudly run on your thoughts.

    Even Bailey… Darren Bailey… downplayed both your concerns.


  3. - H-W - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 8:59 am:

    Re: Tribune article on Free Speech v. Doxxing

    This is actually a very good thing. I already know of a couple people who were literally “trolled” to the point of harm. Doxxing is a very real phenomenon that can cause very real economic and personal harm.

    In children, we know it can lead to suicides because caused by peer groups attacking children. Among adults, it is a technique that can lead to job loss and financial problems including backruptcy, not to mention mental health crises, divorce, etc.

    Thank you Pritzker and legislators for pursuing this.


  4. - Donnie Elgin - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 9:22 am:

    “Dunno if you think these are good political takes…”

    It is not really about politics, rather it is about power, the use and abuse of it. I don’t look to Springfield to stifle the voices of those I may disagree with.


  5. - supplied_demand - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 9:26 am:

    ==Pregnancy resource centers and now firearms.==

    If guns are free speech why do we need the 2nd amendment?

    Not to mention that you have ignored actual free speech legislation (anti-book bans) to focus on laws aimed at eliminating “misinformation, deceptive practices, or misrepresentation” by supposed pregnancy centers. Those seem like things we should try to eliminate.

    Do you believe laws against fraud and identify theft are a violation of free speech?


  6. - Friendly Bob Adams - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 9:43 am:

    The raid on a newspaper in Kansas is troubling. Printing the truth about local officials? Try that in a small town…


  7. - Demoralized - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 9:46 am:

    ==JB and the Dem legislature doing their best to limit free speech==

    You can’t market cigarettes to them. What’s the difference here?


  8. - Demoralized - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 9:47 am:

    ==rather it is about power==

    It’s about common sense.


  9. - Rich Miller - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 9:47 am:

    ===What’s the difference here? ===

    The argument is that cigarettes aren’t in the US Constitution.


  10. - Oswego Willy - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 9:48 am:

    ===It is not really about politics===

    Winners make policy. Winners.

    It’s like the assault weapons ban that expired, by passively letting it.

    That was politics too.

    ===rather it is about power, the use and abuse of it.===

    The idea that deaths attributed to guns you find “regrettable”, the power to limit those things from happening, like a national ban that was in place before… that wasn’t abuse, but it was the politics to let it expire.


  11. - Demoralized - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 9:50 am:

    ==The argument is that cigarettes aren’t in the US Constitution.==

    Their argument is that the 2nd Amendment is some sort of super amendment that, unlike other amendments, can’t possibly have any restrictions related to it. All of the other Amendments would disagree.


  12. - Motambe - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 9:51 am:

    Glad to see the gun manufacturers liability law passed and signed. This is a HUGE step towards holding alcoholic beverage manufacturers and distributors liable for drunk driving deaths. And maybe auto manufacturers. I’m sure attorneys are celebrating, but still, thank you Governor Pritzker for opening this door.


  13. - H-W - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 10:15 am:

    @ Motambe

    That door was already open. It is simply being modified.

    Corporations have been regulated for decades with regard to public harms their activities and/or commodities produce. What is different here, is that the a few privileged corporations are having their privileges removed, so that dangerous commodities and activities are being held to the same standards as others have been held for decades.


  14. - Joe Bidenopolous - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 11:01 am:

    Donnie Elgin still thinks smokes should be advertised on the TV. Got it.


  15. - Stephanie Kollmann - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 11:27 am:

    The First Amendment lets you swear but it also lets the government prohibit you from dropping the F word 15 times on Sesame Street.


  16. - Anyone Remember - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 1:54 pm:

    Re mandatory auto insurance. Glad to see we’re getting closer to “mandatory” auto insurance. In 1987, SoS Edgar was asked (saw this on WGN) about using technology to get close to what we have now. He said (paraphrasing): “Allstate and State Farm don’t want that!” Apparently Edgar legislation takes a long time to actually get implemented. /s


  17. - CJA - Monday, Aug 14, 23 @ 5:24 pm:

    About the firearm liability law, according to the article: “In determining whether firearm advertising campaigns are geared toward minors, the law says that could mean promotions that use caricatures that “reasonably appear to be minors or cartoon characters,” offer brand name merchandise for minors such as clothing, toys, or stuffed animals, or products in “sizes, colors, or designs that are specifically designed to be used by, or appeal to, minors.”

    So now it is illegal to print “Ruger” or “Smith and Wesson” or “Remington” on a kid’s shirt? What if hunting and teaching to hunt is part of that family’s tradition. Similarly, if the add for the JR-15 that everyone is talking about instead showed a .22LR lever-action Henry or a .22 target pistol, would there have been such an uproar?


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