I am thinking the Cubs might actually end up being really good this year. They have a tough stretch in the schedule coming up, combined with some major injuries, but in terms of true talent and post-season potential they seem better than we thought they might be. An exciting time on the North Side
A couple days ago, Rob Colletti at South Side Sox wrote what I think is a really well done analysis of why Reinsdorf allows the Sox to be this bad. It’s called “A Game of Groans”. I’ve always known that ownership dudnt care as long as the turned a profit, but this puts it all in black and white. It’s a really depressing read if you are a Sox fan.
How much longer before Steve Stone goes off on White Sox management? Like what happened with him and Dusty Baker 20 years ago that caused him to get tossed from the Cubs booth.
=A couple days ago, Rob Colletti at South Side Sox wrote what I think is a really well done analysis of why Reinsdorf allows the Sox to be this bad. It’s called “A Game of Groans”. I’ve always known that ownership dudnt care as long as the turned a profit, but this puts it all in black and white=
That same line of thinking existed during Trib ownership of the Cubs and is also likely the guiding principle of the McCaskey family.
Is there a slaughter rule for when Cubs fans can no longer taunt Sox fans in their misery? I mean, there is none for Sox fans to taunt Cubs fans as we’ve seen in recent years, but thinking perhaps we Cubs fans will have more class because we don’t have the massive inferiority complex chip on our shoulders that Sox fans do.
BTW, did I put enough red meat in this post for Rich? Will this result in lifelong banning?
In 2003, the Detroit Tigers went 43 - 119, setting the record for the worst 162 game MLB record. I don’t see a path where the Sox don’t break that record this year.
Paul Sullivan noted that the Cubs are on pace to win 102 games this year. They are also on pace to blow 47 saves. Following the logic, they can’t do both, short of some divine intervention.
It’s too early to use this info to project the entire season. And the Bears first preseason game is August 1, early this year.
So my best advice is ignore the Sox struggles for now and the Cubs good start. Once August gets here, we’ll have football back to distract us until 2025.
When Dale Sveum managed the Cubs, the team was awful. Nonetheless, the team gained important draft picks and made wise selections, signed a few free agents, and were competing for the pennant within two years of Sveum’s dismissal. Three years later, the team won it all.
With the Cubs it was obvious what they were doing. Can’t say the same about the White Sox particularly since they themselves seem unable to articulate it themselves.
I’ve been following Chicago sports for 40 years and I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a team so bereft of …. anything. Not just success, but hope or a plan. I mean, the Cubs lost 100+ a few years, but there was hope with Theo. The Bulls were horrible when Jordan left, but the front office had some (wildly misplaced) hope in a plan to rebuild.
The Sox? Their idea of cleaning house is to hire within. Their idea of fan relations is to let their highly popular broadcaster leave. They’re idea of a team is …. whatever the heck this is. Are they even calling it a rebuild?
I dunno, maybe the late era Bill Wirtz Blackhawks were worse off. I don’t really follow hockey. Cubs in the late Wrigley era? That’s just before my time.
- DuPage Saint - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:11 pm:
I detect a pattern forming
- CornAl DoGooder - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:12 pm:
I am thinking the Cubs might actually end up being really good this year. They have a tough stretch in the schedule coming up, combined with some major injuries, but in terms of true talent and post-season potential they seem better than we thought they might be. An exciting time on the North Side
- ArchPundit - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:13 pm:
When you are bad enough to be an ACT Math question
- Lakeview Looker - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:14 pm:
“But we NEED a new stadium!!! And we NEED taxpayer money for it!! The people demand it!!”
Meanwhile…https://twitter.com/IansArena/status/1780710008730292684
- TJ - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:14 pm:
Sounds like a good time to beg for public money to take advantage of all the good fan feelings that they’re cultivating…. oh wait….
- DuPage Dad - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:18 pm:
What I want is for us to finish *dead last*
- Google Is Your Friend - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:19 pm:
The Sox are so bad you’d think they’re the ones moving to Vegas!
- Amalia - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:20 pm:
Hunter Wendelstedt vs. Aaron Boone is amusing
- Rich Miller - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:21 pm:
ArchPundit wins the internet today.
- StarLineChicago - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:22 pm:
The White Sox are undefeated on Tuesdays this year.
- Dance Band on the Titanic - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:26 pm:
The Reds, in just 3 games this season, scored more runs at Guaranteed Rate Field than the White Sox have all season.
- NoMoreMC - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:28 pm:
A couple days ago, Rob Colletti at South Side Sox wrote what I think is a really well done analysis of why Reinsdorf allows the Sox to be this bad. It’s called “A Game of Groans”. I’ve always known that ownership dudnt care as long as the turned a profit, but this puts it all in black and white. It’s a really depressing read if you are a Sox fan.
- NoMoreMC - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:29 pm:
https://www.southsidesox.com/2024/4/20/24134568/a-game-of-groans-chicago-white-sox-historically-bad-because-of-owner-jerry-reinsdorf
- NonAFSCMEStateEmployeeFromChatham - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:30 pm:
How much longer before Steve Stone goes off on White Sox management? Like what happened with him and Dusty Baker 20 years ago that caused him to get tossed from the Cubs booth.
- NonAFSCMEStateEmployeeFromChatham - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:40 pm:
=A couple days ago, Rob Colletti at South Side Sox wrote what I think is a really well done analysis of why Reinsdorf allows the Sox to be this bad. It’s called “A Game of Groans”. I’ve always known that ownership dudnt care as long as the turned a profit, but this puts it all in black and white=
That same line of thinking existed during Trib ownership of the Cubs and is also likely the guiding principle of the McCaskey family.
- Responsa - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:48 pm:
What did Jason Benetti know and when did he know it?
- Friendly Bob Adams - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:53 pm:
At this rate the Sox will finish 15-147 for a .093 winning percentage.
- New Day - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:58 pm:
Is there a slaughter rule for when Cubs fans can no longer taunt Sox fans in their misery? I mean, there is none for Sox fans to taunt Cubs fans as we’ve seen in recent years, but thinking perhaps we Cubs fans will have more class because we don’t have the massive inferiority complex chip on our shoulders that Sox fans do.
BTW, did I put enough red meat in this post for Rich? Will this result in lifelong banning?
- levivotedforjudy - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 2:59 pm:
In 2003, the Detroit Tigers went 43 - 119, setting the record for the worst 162 game MLB record. I don’t see a path where the Sox don’t break that record this year.
- 47th Ward - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 3:06 pm:
Paul Sullivan noted that the Cubs are on pace to win 102 games this year. They are also on pace to blow 47 saves. Following the logic, they can’t do both, short of some divine intervention.
It’s too early to use this info to project the entire season. And the Bears first preseason game is August 1, early this year.
So my best advice is ignore the Sox struggles for now and the Cubs good start. Once August gets here, we’ll have football back to distract us until 2025.
- Baloneymous - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 3:07 pm:
It would be more impressive if the White Sox’ number of losses in a row correlated with the Fibonacci sequence.
- Rich Miller - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 3:11 pm:
===when Cubs fans can no longer taunt Sox fans in their misery?===
I haven’t even noticed that. Too busy grousing about the Sox.
- Just the Facts - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 3:25 pm:
At this point of the season in 1962, the Mets had won 5 games. They were 40-120-1 for the year. The Sox are on a pace to be worse than the 1962 Mets.
- Ducky LaMoore - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 3:36 pm:
I’d never be a fan of a team Bill Veeck didn’t own. Should I go Guardians or Orioles? 1/2 /s
- Bald&Beautiful - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 3:37 pm:
Are we watching Jerry enact the 1989 Major League movie playbook?
- Gravitas - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 3:40 pm:
Losing can precede a successful rebuild.
When Dale Sveum managed the Cubs, the team was awful. Nonetheless, the team gained important draft picks and made wise selections, signed a few free agents, and were competing for the pennant within two years of Sveum’s dismissal. Three years later, the team won it all.
- 10th ward - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 3:45 pm:
@B&B –EPIC POST
- Rich Miller - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 3:45 pm:
===Losing can precede a successful rebuild. ===
Or it can precede more losing.
- 10th ward - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 3:46 pm:
Wille Mays Hayes is a free agent–just sayin
- New Day - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 3:56 pm:
“Are we watching Jerry enact the 1989 Major League movie playbook?”
Ding ding ding. Give that person a cookie.
- 312 - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 4:28 pm:
Oh, there’s another baseball team in town?
- Pundent - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 4:57 pm:
=Losing can precede a successful rebuild.=
With the Cubs it was obvious what they were doing. Can’t say the same about the White Sox particularly since they themselves seem unable to articulate it themselves.
- NorthsideNoMore - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 4:57 pm:
“So you’re sayin there’s chance ? !”
Lloyed Christmas
- btowntruth from forgottonia - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 5:40 pm:
Nothing helps the “we want a new stadium” whine like putting a AA quality team on the field and having them play to 40% (or less) capacity crowds.
Genius.
- Bogey Golfer - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 6:07 pm:
I have an extra ticket to the May 1 game vs. Minn. 1:05 start.
- Some Guy - Monday, Apr 22, 24 @ 8:12 pm:
I’ve been following Chicago sports for 40 years and I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a team so bereft of …. anything. Not just success, but hope or a plan. I mean, the Cubs lost 100+ a few years, but there was hope with Theo. The Bulls were horrible when Jordan left, but the front office had some (wildly misplaced) hope in a plan to rebuild.
The Sox? Their idea of cleaning house is to hire within. Their idea of fan relations is to let their highly popular broadcaster leave. They’re idea of a team is …. whatever the heck this is. Are they even calling it a rebuild?
I dunno, maybe the late era Bill Wirtz Blackhawks were worse off. I don’t really follow hockey. Cubs in the late Wrigley era? That’s just before my time.
- Chito - Tuesday, Apr 23, 24 @ 10:18 am:
Double plus ungood