Capitol - Your Illinois News Radar » All in a day’s work
SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax      Advertise Here      Mobile Version     Exclusive Subscriber Content     Updated Posts    Contact
To subscribe to Capitol Fax, click here.
All in a day’s work

Thursday, Jul 27, 2006

Yesterday, the Chicago city council passed the “big box” ordinance.

Defying Mayor Daley and challenging Wal-Mart and Target to follow through on their threats, a bitterly divided City Council voted Wednesday to require Chicago’s big-box retailers to pay employees a “living wage” of at least $10 an hour and $3 in benefits by 2010.

The 35-14, veto-proof vote is an overwhelming victory for organized labor and the latest in a string of legislative defeats for a corruption-weakened Daley.

…Decided not to force dog owners to implant microchips in their pets.

“Let me talk to you about defecation. . . . Dog-do is the caviar of rats,” [Ald. Burt Natarus] said.

…And voted themselves a pay raise.

Chicago’s $98,125-a-year aldermen would see their salaries rise with the inflation rate over the next four years, under an ordinance approved Wednesday by a City Council that gave itself political cover.

By mandating wage and benefit standards for “big-box” retailers, aldermen can claim they did more than feather their own nests.

It was the third time a “living wage” was approved on the same day as an aldermanic pay raise. The last two times, the increase for Chicago’s working poor applied only to employees of city contractors.

The aldermanic pay raise was approved by a vote of 27-16.

[Emphasis added]

- Posted by Rich Miller        

  1. - Anonymous - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 1:15 pm:

    It was indeed the 3rd time that they linked these types of issues in such a cowardly way. Except that this time, they won’t buy themselves any cover by doing it. There are going to be a lot of crybaby Aldermen shaking in their boots when the 5th floor doesn’t come running to their rescue in February. And for good reason.

  2. - The Conservative - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 1:24 pm:

    If I where Wal-Mart or any of the other stores that the city is Blackmailing, I would build just across the border and tell them I could not hire anyone from Chicago. If members of the city council decide what is a living wage , and that it must be what they passed then that salary should not have to pay any deductions. Let’s see how serious Chicago is. Put your money where your mouth is, NO deductions of any kind.

  3. - HANKSTER - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 1:37 pm:

    Everytime working people have fought for a higher minimum wage, or when they fought for the weekend, a 40 hour work week, child labor laws…each time we have heard the same argument, business will suffer, unemployment will rise, it will hurt the worker. But throughout history this has not been the case. Still we hear the same played out arguments.

  4. - Anonymous - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 1:41 pm:

    Hank, and I’m sure the Council was thinking about the working class folks when they raised their 98K salaries that were just bumped up 15% four years ago. Transparent and shameless.

  5. - So-Called - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 1:44 pm:

    “Dog-do is the caviar of rats”

    Little known fact: Rats eat dog-do on toast points.

  6. - HANKSTER - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 1:48 pm:

    Anonymous…they raised their pay so that makes the big box bad? Is that what you are saying because I did not metion anything about their pay.

  7. - Truthful James - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 1:49 pm:

    Where would the Council be without Burt the Shirt. Beware, gentlemen — if he retires, leaves his position and goes back into the general population, he will lower the IQ of each.

  8. - econguru - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 2:01 pm:

    In case you were interested, HANKSTER, 40 hour work weeks can be bad for people too. Consider people who are interested in working more hours (to pay for a new TV, vacation, etc.), but can’t because their company has to pay them overtime, and won’t schedule them any more hours, even though they would be willing to work for their normal pay beyond the 40 hour limit. Just a thought.

  9. - econguru - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 2:04 pm:

    In addition, HANKSTER, people who “fought for the weekend” also applies under my previous argument, as there are people who are willing to work through the weekend at times to get a little extra cash. The problem lies in a mandate by government over people’s choices in work preferences by ordaining a 40-hour work week, etc. in disregard to the personal preferences of people.

  10. - VanillaMan - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 2:43 pm:

    Lordy! Ain’t we intellectual!
    I think Chicago should just go all the way. Ban any businesses that do not offer dream jobs with full health benefits, vacations, sick leave, lots of pay and must hire anyone who applies for jobs; oh, and they must serve toast points, I hear. Lets go full tilt and create that utopia!

    Will the last person leaving Chicago please turn off the light?

  11. - Garp - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 2:57 pm:

    How can I get the roll call of the votes to see how each alderman voted?

  12. - The Conservative - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 3:03 pm:

    What ever happened to Free enterprise? If Wal-Mart or whatever company isn’t paying a big enough salary, and the work force can make more elsewhere then they will. It is not the council’s business to demad such of business. Safety rules are one thing, salary is what ever the worker will accept and the company is willing to pay to maintain a profit. If the company has to pay a higher salary, then they get to expect more from the employee or they should be fired. Welcome to the New world of the Socialist Democratic Party. Remember folks Russia fell apart under Socialism.

  13. - Bill - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 3:21 pm:

    Wow, the right wingers are out in force today….That damned 40 hour week is ruining America. If only we could hire children to work 16 hours a day for 20 cents an hour then we could compete with red china in the world market.

  14. - Wal-mart antagonist - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 3:27 pm:

    Wal-Mart, being the leader in the industry,sets the standards for wages, benefits and many other aspects of the giant retailer business. Econguru seems to have forgotten his history and that work hours are restricted because private industries forced people to work 60, 70, 80 hour weeks or get fired. If you wouldn’t kill yourself for the industrial revolution…someone else would. Hence unions and labor laws came to be.

    Yeah, this is a strong union town (and state), but Socialist or Communist it is not.
    Conservative ought to remember The Soviet Union was a COMMUNIST country, where the state owns all the industry. Canada and Europe are more Socialist with minimum wage laws, a very generous unempolyment net and socialized medicine…they haven’t collapsed yet. But keep waiting, you’ll win that argument yet!

  15. - Rich Miller - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 3:28 pm:

    LOL. Yep, Bill, the problem, see is that so many 12 year old children WANT to work in unsafe coal mines for 10 cents an hour, 80 hours a week, but that bad ol’ government won’t let them.

  16. - econguru - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 3:34 pm:

    Thank you Bill, for introducing the hyperbole into the comments section. I was attempting to make a cogent point, but unfortunately, some people have to resort to extremes to cover up their lack of viable counter-arguments. I fully realize the problems possible without any standards that government supports. However, I question whether we have achieved a necessary medium between open markets and government protections. Too much of one (or the other) can be potentially harmful. To the other extreme, I would suggest looking at France, specifically, the shorter workweek, massive government health care supports and protectionism. Is that what we truly want here? The French economy is suffering and slowing Europe to a torpid pace in the world economy.

  17. - Levois - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 3:55 pm:

    Not a good decision, but time will only tell if this ordinance will net negative results.

  18. - Yellow Dog Democrat - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 3:58 pm:

    So-Called: LOL!!

    Please, someone tell me again, what is Burt Natarus’s obsession with fecal matter?

  19. - Yellow Dog Democrat - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 4:06 pm:

    P.S. I really don’t want to hear allies of THE WORLD’S LARGEST IMPORTER FROM CHINA complaining about Communism. Thank you.

  20. - Yellow Dog Democrat - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 4:11 pm:

    P.P.S. Maybe if Chicago actually did turn Communist, Wal-Mart would start buying goods made here instead of from Beijing?

  21. - doubtful - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 4:27 pm:

    Wal-Mart and Target will stop hem hawing and build in Chicago. It just comes down to profit, and they can afford to pay those wages and still make a profit. Hell, for all the ads Wal-Mart has been running, they probably could’ve paid a the extra wages for a year.

  22. - Disgusted Democrat - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 4:27 pm:

    ‘Dog-doo is the caviar of rats’

    Well, Burt Natarus won’t go hungery.

  23. - fedup dem - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 4:28 pm:

    Mayor Daley may yet veto the Big Box ordinance, particularly if his legal people can come up with enough constitutional objections to give Daley lackeys like Aldermen Pope, Cardenas, Solis and Reboyras the fig leaf of an excuse to change their votes on an override effort.

  24. - Speedy - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 4:44 pm:

    Is how each of the aldermen voted online somewhere, or do we not need to know that?

  25. - Yellow Dog Democrat - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 5:00 pm:

    I would be shocked if Daley were dumb enough to veto a measure that has the support of 85% of voters. If he were going to do that, he would’ve vetoed the smoking ban, which he also opposed.

    And it better be a pretty big fig leaf, considering similar bans are in effect in Santa Fe and San Francisco.

  26. - todd - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 5:05 pm:

    Garp, drop 50 cents and buy todays trib.

  27. - Tom DeLay's Mom - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 5:18 pm:

    If “dog-do is the caviar of rats” - it’s a fair bet that the City Council will soon be banning “dog-do”…Natarus isn’t quite sure what caviar is, but hes pretty sure it’s a delicacy just like foie gras, therefore it must be banned.

    Which begs the question: does Wal-Mart sell dogs without bowels?

  28. - 47th Ward - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 6:05 pm:


    Speaking of hyperbole, are you playing the France card? Until the US passes a law guaranteeing employment for all, I think we can leave the French comparison hyperbole bs out of this discussion.

    P.S. The city council votes can be found at Except the site probably won’t be updated as often, given Laski’s post-conviction resignation. Btw: Laski was the first clerk to post any city council votes in a way average citizens could access.

  29. - Bubs - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 6:43 pm:

    Somebody slap me! We are paying these guys $100,000 per year to discuss the finer points of dog doo?

    Next they are going to call in Triumph as an expert witness. I can just see him addressing that noble body:

    “Dees Ceety Cown-sel is wohn-der-ful . . . FOR ME TO POOP ON!!!!”

  30. - Anonymous - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 7:06 pm:

    Chicago alderman get a raise (Democrat controlled). State legislators get a raise (Democrat controlled). State union workers get several raises a year (Democrat controlled). Rod’s hires get HUGE raises (Democrat controlled).

    Holdover Republicans in State government get nothing. Well, actually, they got their pay cut for two years. Nope, no discrimination there. So much for (Democrat) fairness.

  31. - Office of Intergovernmental Affairs - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 7:17 pm:

    Anonymous 7:06-

    Could you point out those few remaining Republicans? We must have missed them in our past “reviews.” We’ll get them this time!

    Thank you.

  32. - econguru - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 7:44 pm:

    47th Ward, I made the reference to the economic situation in France (and to the broader Eurozone monetary community as a whole) as part of a riposte to Bill’s exaggeration of a open-market state. I doubt that the U.S. will pass such an employment act as seen in France, so I apologize for any misinterpreted hyperbole.

  33. - T$ - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 9:22 pm:

    You know, in a Sun-Times report a few years ago, they said dog doo was the filet mignon of rats.

    I like mine medium rare and wrapped in bacon.

  34. - The Conservative - Thursday, Jul 27, 06 @ 10:50 pm:

    Why are you complaining where Wal-Mart buys it’s merchandise? You shop and buy it. I truly hope Wal-mart and many other retailers stay out of Chicago, let them eat cake.

  35. - the Other Anonymous - Friday, Jul 28, 06 @ 4:40 pm:

    Econguru: we could do a lot worse than being like France. I lived there for a while, and their social problems — despite all the talk of high unemployment, stagnant economy, etc. — are no worse than here in the US. The standard of living is quite high, health care is accessible to all, and social services are far more extensive than in the US. Even so, people who are clever and work hard can become quite well-off — just like in the US.

    Your description of France is, as they would say, a canard.

Sorry, comments for this post are now closed.

* Reader comments closed for the weekend
* Question of the day
* School has kid slapped with felony eavesdropping charge
* AG Madigan to file lawsuit challenging "cruel and unconstitutional policy" at southern border
* Rep. Andersson tries a comeback
* CTU's Lewis to retire
* *** UPDATED x2 *** Rauner brags he's "dramatically" reduced Medicaid enrollment, but hit on "failing" computer system
* Fitch: "The enacted budget entails significant implementation risk"
* *** UPDATED x2 - Pritzker campaign calls comments "racist" *** After Black Caucus backlash, Gov. Rauner says he's "Not surprised they're sensitive because the black legislators really have not been serving their community very well"
* Rep. Chad Hays to resign
* The local news memory hole
* No Janus ruling today
* Police chiefs want Rauner to veto hemp bill
* *** UPDATED x1 - Rauner campaign responds *** New Pritzker TV ad blames Rauner for job losses to neighboring states
* Yesterday's stories

Visit our advertisers...






* BGA President: Rauner budget a shaky platform f.....
* Statehouse Insider: Wait almost over for Janus .....
* Dragon Boat Race held in Chicago to spread Chin.....
* WWE Hall Of Famer Harley Race comments on Vader.....
* Crain's Chicago Business: Illinois' exi.....
* Miller: It's just one poll in June..
* SVM EDITORIAL: Let schools, not state, determin.....
* School districts nervous about possible $40000 .....
* Gov. Rauner's legacy rests with the US Supr.....
* Morrison says there's no room in budget to .....

* LGBT-friendly affordable housing units to open in Chicago
* Alleged police misconduct may cost Chicago $6 million
* Illinois man flees police, banned from motorcycle for year
* Illinois-Kentucky ferry may sink under rising costs
* Illinois WWII vet receives France's highest honor
* University of Illinois seeks dismissal of free speech suit
* Zoning exception OK'd for seed company near Springfield
* University will honor alumnus who stopped Indiana shooting
* Illinois finalizes its plans to prevent another Russian hack
* EXCHANGE: Marengo families seeking normalcy year after blast

* Illinois finalizes its plans to prevent another Russian hack
* Illinois stands to gain from Supreme Court decision
* Records: Mansion used in Rauner's 'Porcelain Prince' ad got its own tax reduction
* Illinois politicians seek answers to family separations at border
* 80+ years later, Meredosia woman sees the opening of another new bridge
* Chatham man wins Illinois Bicentennial coin design contest
* Rauner to consider allowing medical cannabis for opioid patients
* Bipartisan work yields gun bills, fate rests with Rauner
* Rauner names Justin Blandford curator of Governor's Mansion
* Rauner names Williamsville woman interim HFS director

* Mariano's parent buys turnaround time
* Trump's tariff tweet spurs consternation at local car dealerships
* Illinois' existential problem: Shrinking number of young people
* Chicago set for another big TV year
* Chicago manufacturer automates—then hires

* Tempers flare as ‘searching’ Cubs drop third straight to last-place Reds
* US military moves 100 coffins to North Korean border for war remains
* Trump administration seeks to expand immigrant family detention
* Vote for Pedro: Strop starts All-Star write-in campaign for Albert Almora Jr.
* Man shot in head in Englewood
* Sox blow lead as Dylan Covey exits with injury, lose 7-6 to A’s
* Sox notebook: Miguel Gonzalez, Nicky Delmonico injury updates
* Metra to add extra trains for Pride Parade
* Cubs’ Addison Russell makes adjustments to play through finger issue
* Blackhawks enter make-or-break week with free agency looming

* U.S. moves 100 coffins to North Korean border to collect war remains
* Reds crush Cubs 11-2 for third straight win in series
* Justice Department gives Congress new classified documents on Russia probe
* Willson Contreras says his lack of a 'thank-you' to ump led to bench coach's ejection
* 1 dead, 1 wounded in Englewood shootings
* NHL draft helps Blackhawks with the future; now it's time to look to the present
* This November, cast your vote against the GOP
* With amateur days ending, Matt Meneghetti eyes one more Northwest Indiana Golf Classic title
* Congress' record on immigration is repeated failures
* Wendell Carter Jr. gets to fulfill lifelong ambition playing for Bulls

» ‘That’s A Sad Woman’: Struggling Lincoln Foundation To Sell Monroe, Sandburg Photos
» The Week in Review: Immigration Debate Explodes in Chicago
» Rauner: Black Legislators Not Serving Their Community
» State Week: Online Sales Taxes; CPS Scandal; Rauner Takes On Black Caucus
» WBEZ’s Chicago And Illinois News Roundup: June 22, 2018
» Jurors Get Close-Up View Of Chicago Politics In Probes Of Shootings By Cops
» Ailing Chicago Teachers Union President Karen Lewis Retiring
» Rebecca Makkai, Author Of ‘The Great Believers’; Crowded Starved Rock; Illinois Outdoor Destinations
» Cook County To Hire Sexual Harassment Watchdog
» #656 Hinds & Opinions on Beyoncé and Jay-Z, Parquet Courts & More

* Angie Muhs: Goal of opinion page is to spark discussion and thought
* BGA President: Rauner budget a shaky platform for campaign
* Community Foundation for the Land of Lincoln: Women for Women making new connections
* Illinois finalizes its plans to prevent another Russian hack
* Our View: Hearing should focus on solutions for DCFS children
* Statehouse Insider: Wait almost over for Janus decision
* George Will: Charles Krauthammer, a diagnostician of our public discontents
* Ed Rogers: Democrats still have no message on the economy or jobs
* Point: Obamacare's constitutionality ends when its tax ends
* Counterpoint: Injustice reigns as Trump's Justice Department attacks Obamacare

* Police involved in possible standoff
* Williamson County to let voters decide whether it should be a sanctuary for gun owners
* Healthcare mission provides free care to Southern Illinoisans
* Land of Lincoln hosts clinic to expunge or seal criminal records in Carbondale
* Save Our Streets: Event battles violence, celebrates talent
* Peoria Heights police go live with body cameras
* Troy man arrested, charged with manslaughter and sexual assault
* Relay For Life raises $255,300; more coming in
* Family meets for 100th annual reunion in Decatur
* Lakside Water district lifts boil order

* How a West Dundee cancer patient pays it forward
* US moves 100 coffins to N. Korean border for war remains
* The Latest: Trump promotes tax cuts, reduced regulations
* DOJ gives Congress new classified documents on Russia probe
* Fox Valley Aero Club celebrates 100th anniversary of Royal Air Force

* Farm bill passes House with welfare-to-wor...
* LETTER: Will Rep. John Faso take stand on ...
* 'Ant-Man and the Wasp' Connects Di...
* House approves massive opioids legislation
* Illinois' officials weigh in on immigr...
* Ant-Man and the Wasp: Director teases elem...
* Walters' bill to expand opioid treatme...
* 'Ant-Man and the Wasp' EP Teases A...
* Time for a History Lesson about Gun Control
* New 'Ant-Man and the Wasp' Clip: L...

* Across the city, Chicagoans protest Trump ......
* Chicagoans Rally For Border Children To Re......
* How Stephen Miller, the architect behind T......
* Officials Share Info on Immigrant Kids in ......
* WATCH: Democratic candidate Londrigan brin......

* Kankakee not on map...
* Senate Passes Duckworth & Durbin Amend......
* Pulse of the Voters: The increasing influe......
* Tammy Duckworth TV Commercials Ads...
* Mazie Hirono, Tammy Duckworth, and ......

* IIT Hyderabad builds dataset to understand online user-engagement
* Imagining A Blockchain University
* 5 WaysDigital Connectivity is Revolutionising Education
* 4 Powerful Ways to Use Games in eLearning
* Why Companies Are Taking It Upon Themselves to Help Workers Learn New Skills
* Preparing students for workplace of the future
* I'm know I'm late on Korea
* Lionel's Ready For Pride - Are You?
* An Anniversary Worth Bragging About
* Pride Cleaners has a new owner

* Chairman Fratianni selected for national workers' comp leadership role
* Unemployment Rate Continues Falling in All Metro Areas

* The Meizu 16 will cost less than $615
* Microsoft unexpectedly drops Windows 7 support for some ancient CPUs
* Nokia 7 Plus ARCore support is now live
* Smartphone World Cup: Round of 16, part 1
* Walmart will begin selling an exclusive monthly DC comic anthology in July
* Xiaomi posts Redmi 6 Pro camera samples online
* Pay as little as $1 to conquer full stack coding

* White Sox can't hold early lead as Covey exits
* Sox shaken and stirred in loss
* Anderson celebrates birthday with 13th homer
* White Sox pitcher Dylan Covey discusses the groin injury tha...
* Anderson hits 13th homer as Athletics top White Sox 7-6
* Yolmer Sanchez made a heads-up play to catch Dustin Fowler off base...
* Sanchez makes heads-up play to catch Fowler

Main Menu
Pundit rankings
Subscriber Content
Blagojevich Trial
Updated Posts

June 2018
May 2018
April 2018
March 2018
February 2018
January 2018
December 2017
November 2017
October 2017
September 2017
August 2017
July 2017
June 2017
May 2017
April 2017
March 2017
February 2017
January 2017
December 2016
November 2016
October 2016
September 2016
August 2016
July 2016
June 2016
May 2016
April 2016
March 2016
February 2016
January 2016
December 2015
November 2015
October 2015
September 2015
August 2015
July 2015
June 2015
May 2015
April 2015
March 2015
February 2015
January 2015
December 2014
November 2014
October 2014
September 2014
August 2014
July 2014
June 2014
May 2014
April 2014
March 2014
February 2014
January 2014
December 2013
November 2013
October 2013
September 2013
August 2013
July 2013
June 2013
May 2013
April 2013
March 2013
February 2013
January 2013
December 2012
November 2012
October 2012
September 2012
August 2012
July 2012
June 2012
May 2012
April 2012
March 2012
February 2012
January 2012
December 2011
November 2011
October 2011
September 2011
August 2011
July 2011
June 2011
May 2011
April 2011
March 2011
February 2011
January 2011
December 2010
November 2010
October 2010
September 2010
August 2010
July 2010
June 2010
May 2010
April 2010
March 2010
February 2010
January 2010
December 2009
November 2009
October 2009
September 2009
August 2009
July 2009
June 2009
May 2009
April 2009
March 2009
February 2009
January 2009
December 2008
November 2008
October 2008
September 2008
August 2008
July 2008
June 2008
May 2008
April 2008
March 2008
February 2008
January 2008
December 2007
November 2007
October 2007
September 2007
August 2007
July 2007
June 2007
May 2007
April 2007
March 2007
February 2007
January 2007
December 2006
November 2006
October 2006
September 2006
August 2006
July 2006
June 2006
May 2006
April 2006
March 2006
February 2006
January 2006
December 2005
April 2005
March 2005
February 2005
January 2005
December 2004
November 2004
October 2004

Blog*Spot Archives
November 2005
October 2005
September 2005
August 2005
July 2005
June 2005
May 2005


RSS Feed 2.0
Comments RSS 2.0

Hosted by MCS SUBSCRIBE to Capitol Fax Advertise Here Mobile Version Contact Rich Miller