===Positives? Chicago Schools, understands beurocracy of government, respected for passion of task, not afraid to go after those he disagrees with.
Negatives? Another Chicago white male, been “away” for some time, his lost to Rod was a downstate thrashing, so helping with downstate is not a plus.
Wow. Name is good, the politics, the jury is still out.
Running very large school districts, with the budget issues, unions, city and state government cooperation…
Vallas is qualified to be a “Governor in Waiting” - a Lt. Governor===
Bottom line is that Paul Vallas is more than qualified to take over and be Governor of the 5th largest state in the country, and with no Primary to worry about, and Quinn workig with AA legislators, like with guns, and signing SB10, and all Quinn Populists moves … Paul Vallas doesn’t hurt, helps, but enough for crediblity to BE a Governor …
Voted “Won’t make much …”
Honestly, if/when the LG Nominees have their one and only debate, Vallas will be able to easily hold his own, and help as best as he can Pat Quinn.
Can’t say I feel the same about 3 of the 4 LGs running in the GOP Primary.
Paul should have been elected governor when he ran but time and distance (his living elsewhere)might have some impact on the race. As to how significant that impact might be remains to be seen but he will wear well when compared to outher LTG candidates.
Hard question. My first instinct was that Vallas will undercut Rauner (particularly since Rauner’s big non-econ issue is school reform). But I can see a scenario where Vallas’s school-reform experience–he did lots of privatization in Philly and NO–could cause some backlash among Chicago Democrats.
Bold, maybe brilliant, tho not without risks. But overall “too obvious” above nails it. Cements Quinn reform/indie cred, plays against type re ticket-balancing except to extent it cuts into any GOP nominee’s hopes of adding suburban independents to a downstate base. Underlines that Quinn is the antithesis of Blagojevich.
Depends on whom the opponents are, but I think it helps. Whatever travails he had in NO and CT, he will play well in the suburbs with independents and soccer moms. If Rauner is the opponent, he shores up the competency vs. gadly problem, and he is not as “in the pocket” to the unions clearly.
I voted no difference either way. Not because I don’t like Vallas. I do. I voted for him in the primary way back when. He flirted with filing again later on and I hoped he would pull the lever and jump in. He didn’t. Now it appears to me that he is, in part, perhaps trying to get in by the back door. Riding Quinn’s questionable coat tails.
In addition, I wonder about the selection process. Is there no one else in Illinois who has been engaged in the governing process, or at least is actually living here (as opposed to doing just enough to avoid a serious challenge) who was considered or who would even accept the request? Someone is gonna ask that question.
Vallas could certainly step in as governor - right now if he had the guts to have stayed around and stayed engaged and dealt with the fear of flying. They gotta treatment for that, ya know. What happens when the smart one finds out that Quinn can be a bumbling fool, the kind that Vallas would be dismissive with? Can he sit there quietly cutting ribbons, etc, while Quinn acts a fool? Can he do that for 4 years until he gets his chance (assuming Quinn would step aside)?
Good point - Skeeter -, and to that specifically, what will the teachers “do”, given Pat Quinn/Paul Vallas are going to make it through to November, are they willing to back Bill Brady, or Kirk Dillard …Bruce Rauner or Dan Rutherford?
Will they “sit it out”? (unlikely)
Paul Vallas on the November ballot really puts the IEA on notice(?)
I don’t have the first clue, given these dynamics.
I voted “Help”. I worked for Vallas when he ran against The Hair. I found him to be intelligent and thoughtful as to the state’s problems. I am now rethinking my position of sitting out the governor’s race next fall.
I voted that it won’t make much a difference. It’s all about the big boys.
Regarding Skeeters point, I don’t see much love coming the teachers way from Quinn anyway. If the candidates’ position on pension reduction is their litmus test, then Rutherford MAY (I’m still not trusting his alleged support to pension commitments) be their only choice.
I voted no impact. Vallas is a smart guy but he’s been out of the Illinois picture for quite a while. I mean it’s not like he’s clinging to a chief of staff job from 20 years ago, but his heyday in Chicago was a while ago.
Won’t make much of a difference since he doesn’t have the name-value that came with Shelia Simon. Plus–they do represent a couple of old white dudes instead of a an old white dude with a minority male or female.
Perhaps their experience will make up for whatever is lacking in their appearance…or maybe they will win just because they may seem like the best of the worst.
Are there positives if you want to see them? Sure - as someone mentioned it cements indie cred and may - MAY - help with some suburbanites concerned about education and fiscal issues.
Are there negatives if you want to see them? Yep. Last I heard before today, PV was an out-of-state Republican with a string of failed school districts in his wake. And Rauner has the money to dig that up - his OR person just got a big bump in the contract. And, I suppose, it could hurt him in the African American community.
But all in all, it’s still a wash. See, here’s the thing. Those suburbanites who like Vallas? They still have to vote for Quinn if they want him, and that could be a tough pill to swallow. The indie vote? He was getting that anyway.
I honestly don’t see how this pick brings him one additional vote, and I suspect it doesn’t lose him one additional vote. And it is high risk because I guarantee PQ’s team hasn’t vetted him to the fullest. That’s my gut right now. But I wouldn’t be surprised if long-term it hurts him.
And I’m with Word on outcome as well - I’ll believe it when I walk in the booth. Wouldn’t it be something if he dropped out in, oh, December?
whetstone - I realized after I wrote that line that it could be seen in 2 ways. Fear of actual flying, and fear of flying - into his own candidacy for governor. Hard to see Vallas not chafing under Quinn’s administration, as smart as he is.
Glad to hear he is over the actual fear. Debilitating condition with a path to a cure.
- Just The Way It Is One - Friday, Nov 8, 13 @ 4:19 pm:
In the end, won’t make that much of a difference. But sure was tempted to punch the “hurt” button. Again, as I posted elsewhere here today, it’s just that out of ALL the hundreds of possible choices for a highly talented, committed, competent, capable, true-blue ILLINOISAN and (LOYal?)Democrat, the pick is VALlas(?!) I imagine some Teachers are happy but after that…shocking, and likely quite dissapointing, even apparently from what I’m reading disillusioning to some sectors and People of our Beloved Home State…!
- Commonsense in Illinois - Friday, Nov 8, 13 @ 4:33 pm:
I think it will hurt him. Here’s a Progressive Governor who is always talking the game of increasing opportunities for minorities and women, and his choice for Lieutenant Governor is another white guy, and one who really hasn’t lived in Illinois full-time for several years. If the minority community is upset, who could blame them? Were they led down a path…sure sounds like it. It will be interesting to see where suburban women now land as only Republicans candidates for governor seem to be able to find very capable women as running mates (not all, but both Rauner and Dillard anyway).
Has to help. Unlike Republican side, where you question Lt.Gov’s competence to lead should something happen to the Governor (ie., hit by lightning), with Vallas next in line Dems may be doing rain dances.
Vallas will be a positive for Quinn with Independent voters in the collar counties. Vallas is respected and held by most (including Republicans) as a competent administrator. Vallas was also regarded as a guy who would stand up to those who tried to apply political pressure when it came to the issues. Those are just two of the dozens of achilles heels that poor Quinn has. It will be interesting to see how the teachers unions look at Quinn’s choice, though. My guess is that they are smarter than to buck Quinn on his choice. They aren’t about to vote Republican.